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2013-08-27 05:21:48 PM

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Did you really just post pre-2003 cartoons backing the Bushies' WMD claims? Were you dropped on your head as a child?
 
2013-08-27 05:24:38 PM
Apart from being totally unprincipled left-wing troublemakers, the Syrians are also born skivers, they're dirty, smelly and untrustworthy, and, of course, they're friends of the awful gippos.
 
2013-08-27 05:30:58 PM

nemisonic: abfalter: Someone needs to post it:

-Gallic Wars
- Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian. [Or at ths time in history, a Roman -ed.]
...

-War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

-Algerian Rebellion
- Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

You forgot Vietnam. France started it and walked away after hooking/tricking the US to enter the theater.

//Syria will be same diff.


Indochina (Indochine) is what the French called Vietnam.
 
2013-08-27 05:31:01 PM
nemisonic:

-War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

You forgot Vietnam. France started it and walked away after hooking/tricking the US to enter the theater.

//Syria will be same diff.


Vietnam is in Indochina, dimwit. The Frogs tried to retain their empire with their tiny, broke-ass post-WWII Army. They're all better now. Probably among the top five world militaries. Most of their losses can be attributed to fighting Germany, which has half again as many people. EVERYBODY lost to the Romans.
 
2013-08-27 05:34:48 PM
nemisonic:
-War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

abfalter:
You forgot Vietnam. France started it and walked away after hooking/tricking the US to enter the theater.


French Indochina is what became Vietnam (as well as Laos and Cambodia). Perhaps the pun about Dien Bien Phu was too obscure.

/let's say I have a number
//that number's fifteen thousand
///that's ten percent...
////D. Boon lives!
 
2013-08-27 05:34:50 PM
What an airstrike against Syria might look like:

www.chinadaily.com.cn
 
2013-08-27 05:39:41 PM

ChuDogg: Not surprising considering France is essentially a sunni islamic State by now.


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Yep, yep, yep. Five to 10 percent of the country are Muslim (Higher number based on country of origin, not actual religious preference), so it's essentially a Muslim state. Same as the United States is essentially a Mormon country.
 
2013-08-27 05:43:25 PM

mbillips: EVERYBODY lost to the Romans.


Except the Ostrogoths, Vandals, Visigoths...oh, and the plague.

By the way, it never helps to call names when someone has a reading comprehension problem. Offer citations, clarifications, and the like -- but leave out the ad hominem stuff please. You never know when you could be wrong about something and it's your turn to be mocked. It's about the sin, not the sinner.

/humbly submitted for your consideration
 
2013-08-27 06:02:22 PM
It's been done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Syrian_Revolt (caution:  link contains a picture that is not for the fainthearted.)
 
2013-08-27 06:04:51 PM

pseydtonne: nemisonic:
-War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

abfalter:
You forgot Vietnam. France started it and walked away after hooking/tricking the US to enter the theater.

French Indochina is what became Vietnam (as well as Laos and Cambodia). Perhaps the pun about Dien Bien Phu was too obscure.

/let's say I have a number
//that number's fifteen thousand
///that's ten percent...
////D. Boon lives!


Yes, making the pun more clear would have certainly helped someone who didn't know what Indochina was.
 
2013-08-27 06:05:07 PM

pseydtonne: mbillips: EVERYBODY lost to the Romans.

Except the Ostrogoths, Vandals, Visigoths...oh, and the plague.

By the way, it never helps to call names when someone has a reading comprehension problem. Offer citations, clarifications, and the like -- but leave out the ad hominem stuff please. You never know when you could be wrong about something and it's your turn to be mocked. It's about the sin, not the sinner.

/humbly submitted for your consideration


Interesting point about when Rome started to lose wars.  When they were winning it was with a citizen army.  Why they started losing it was with a mercenary army.

That says a lot about the value of a volunteer force of highly trained highly motivated citizens.
 
2013-08-27 06:10:55 PM

marsoft: pseydtonne: mbillips: EVERYBODY lost to the Romans.

Except the Ostrogoths, Vandals, Visigoths...oh, and the plague.

By the way, it never helps to call names when someone has a reading comprehension problem. Offer citations, clarifications, and the like -- but leave out the ad hominem stuff please. You never know when you could be wrong about something and it's your turn to be mocked. It's about the sin, not the sinner.

/humbly submitted for your consideration

Interesting point about when Rome started to lose wars.  When they were winning it was with a citizen army.  Why they started losing it was with a mercenary army.

That says a lot about the value of a volunteer force of highly trained highly motivated citizens.


They quit having a completely citizen army late in the Republic. The mercenary/auxiliary army successfully expanded and defended the Empire for another 500 years. Your point is invalid.
 
2013-08-27 06:16:54 PM

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Did you really just post pre-2003 cartoons backing the Bushies' WMD claims? Were you dropped on your head as a child?


I have my doubts about you.

*ahem*. Have you heard about the term, "learning from history"?

Of course I had the luxury of knowing Bush was lying the first time. This time, I just don't trust USA. I want someone else to say they can prove it was the Assad regime, because USA are proven liars.
 
2013-08-27 06:20:38 PM

mbillips: nemisonic:

-War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

You forgot Vietnam. France started it and walked away after hooking/tricking the US to enter the theater.

//Syria will be same diff.

Vietnam is in Indochina, dimwit. The Frogs tried to retain their empire with their tiny, broke-ass post-WWII Army. They're all better now. Probably among the top five world militaries. Most of their losses can be attributed to fighting Germany, which has half again as many people. EVERYBODY lost to the Romans.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Teutoburg_Forest

Nope, the Romans met some tribes that spoke Germanic.

You can still see that line across Europe today, straight through Belgium for instance, which is divided in the Romanic (French) and Germanic (Dutch) part.
 
2013-08-27 06:22:02 PM
France lead the way against Libya, and I'm sure they're eager to show how the Syrians Russians build airdefences is no match for those Rafale fighters they want to export.
 
2013-08-27 06:44:15 PM

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Ah... the lovely Chattanooga Times! Such memories! You rascal! Your underhanded reminder of the jingoism and quest for evidence in Iraq should always give rational people pause and hope that more stringent due diligence is being accorded to the Syria situation, so we don't reap future fiscal and political quagmires. Bravo!
 
2013-08-27 07:27:42 PM
You American guys may want to read up on the French Foreign Legion before doing the surrender monkey routine. Those dudes have their own MOHs rating.

Nearly anyone can join the French Foreign Legion, you don't have to give a real name when you do so. At the end of five years, you emerge with French citizenship. Now, that's a pretty good deal. Except that the Legion has a policy of ensuring that at least 10 per cent of their soldiers die per year, the soldiers are not barracked in Europe but in hot spots around the globe, or if no fighting is available, they drop you off in French New Guinnea and simply don't feed you for a month. No, really.

So, you have to be pretty desperate to try it or get through it. We're not talking Gary Cooper in Beau Geste.

If you keep wondering why when you read foreign news, the French always seem to be involved in this or that conflict in places like Africa, it's because they keep their knives sharp. It's also why France is the go-to place if you need intelligence in some parts so of the world. This is why in some parts of the developing world, it's safe to be a French citizen working for a mining company or on the rigs because if some strong man decides to make trouble, Le Corpes expéditionnaire française comes in.
 
2013-08-27 07:44:26 PM

Highroller48: Seriously, though, the Charles De Gaulle is a pretty badass ship.



It's a French, union-labor fiasco.

The thing took forever to build at many times its projected cost.  It had to be towed back to dock after it's first sea trial because the propeller fell off.  In fact, it's slower than the ship it replaced because the company that made the propellers for it went Solyndra-style bankrupt.  It had to be fitted with cannibalized propellers from another ship.

The reactor is all f*cked up and is over-dosing the crew with radiation and it can NOT be removed and replaced.  Even worse, the flight deck can't handle the specific aircraft is was designed to carry so they've had to try and alter it with some expensive and questionable 'customizing'.

It's like Obama designed it or something...
 
2013-08-27 08:32:40 PM
Can you imagine that conversation during the American Revolution?

"Hey guys, I have great news! France has offered to help us against the British."
"Oh sh*t. Sh*t sh*t sh*t."
"Guys? I thought you'd like that."
"Name the last time the French won a war it was involved in."
"Hmmmmmm...there was...nope...what about...damn...the Romans...no...hmmm"
"We are so f*cked. Well at least we got most of the Indians on our side, those guys never lose!"
 
2013-08-27 09:09:32 PM
Welcome Aboard, France...
 
2013-08-27 09:30:19 PM
images.nationalgeographic.com

Without France...there would be no US of A
 
2013-08-27 09:38:32 PM

bdub77: Can you imagine that conversation during the American Revolution?

"Hey guys, I have great news! France has offered to help us against the British."
"Oh sh*t. Sh*t sh*t sh*t."
"Guys? I thought you'd like that."
"Name the last time the French won a war it was involved in."
"Hmmmmmm...there was...nope...what about...damn...the Romans...no...hmmm"
"We are so f*cked. Well at least we got most of the Indians on our side, those guys never lose!"


The War of the Austrian Succession (1740-48), which was still within living memory in the 1770s, may not have been a French diplomatic victory, but the French had some impressive military victories during that war, particularly at Fontenoy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fontenoy

The Marechal de Saxe, the French commander there, was German-born, it is true.

Anecdote from the battle:  "The English officers saluted the French by doffing their hats . . . the French, returned the greeting. My Lord Charles Hai, captain in the English Guards, cried, 'Gentlemen of the French Guards, fire !' The Comte d'Auteroche, then lieutenant of Grenadiers, shouted, ' Gentlemen, we never fire first ; fire yourselves."
 
2013-08-27 09:44:12 PM

mbillips: marsoft: pseydtonne: mbillips: EVERYBODY lost to the Romans.

Except the Ostrogoths, Vandals, Visigoths...oh, and the plague.

By the way, it never helps to call names when someone has a reading comprehension problem. Offer citations, clarifications, and the like -- but leave out the ad hominem stuff please. You never know when you could be wrong about something and it's your turn to be mocked. It's about the sin, not the sinner.

/humbly submitted for your consideration

Interesting point about when Rome started to lose wars.  When they were winning it was with a citizen army.  Why they started losing it was with a mercenary army.

That says a lot about the value of a volunteer force of highly trained highly motivated citizens.

They quit having a completely citizen army late in the Republic. The mercenary/auxiliary army successfully expanded and defended the Empire for another 500 years. Your point is invalid.


Even longer, if you count the Byzantine Empire. ( IIRC, they went almost entirely towards the employment of mercenaries after the 11th cent.)

/ despite all of the GOP/Tea Party claims to American exceptionalism, I doubt if we'll have the same +1000-year run that the Romans had...
 
2013-08-27 09:56:39 PM

nemisonic: You forgot Vietnam. France started it and walked away after hooking/tricking the US to enter the theater.


it's the war in indochina

re: the american rev - the french pretty much won it for us through their training of our army and their naval actions.  We owe them our independence.
 
2013-08-27 10:38:45 PM
fark France. They didn't have any problem letting Saddam gas the Kurds and kill additional tens of thousands of Iraqis, then shaming the US for removing him. Suddenly they find their moral compass and want to get involved in Syria for humanitarian reasons.
 
2013-08-27 10:41:39 PM

Gdalescrboz: fark France. They didn't have any problem letting Saddam gas the Kurds and kill additional tens of thousands of Iraqis, then shaming the US for removing him. Suddenly they find their moral compass and want to get involved in Syria for humanitarian reasons.



That's a very good point, actually.
 
2013-08-27 10:51:00 PM

gaslight: You American guys may want to read up on the French Foreign Legion before doing the surrender monkey routine. Those dudes have their own MOHs rating.

Nearly anyone can join the French Foreign Legion, you don't have to give a real name when you do so. At the end of five years, you emerge with French citizenship. Now, that's a pretty good deal. Except that the Legion has a policy of ensuring that at least 10 per cent of their soldiers die per year, the soldiers are not barracked in Europe but in hot spots around the globe, or if no fighting is available, they drop you off in French New Guinnea and simply don't feed you for a month. No, really.

So, you have to be pretty desperate to try it or get through it. We're not talking Gary Cooper in Beau Geste.

If you keep wondering why when you read foreign news, the French always seem to be involved in this or that conflict in places like Africa, it's because they keep their knives sharp. It's also why France is the go-to place if you need intelligence in some parts so of the world. This is why in some parts of the developing world, it's safe to be a French citizen working for a mining company or on the rigs because if some strong man decides to make trouble, Le Corpes expéditionnaire française comes in.


The legion just went in a raid in Somalia where they left then prisoner along with leaving one of their injures comrades behind because they lost accountability, he was executed. They don't ensure 10% of them die, they just don't know how to prevent it. The French are incompetent and the Legion, while they try, is old and busted.
 
2013-08-27 10:53:52 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Gdalescrboz: fark France. They didn't have any problem letting Saddam gas the Kurds and kill additional tens of thousands of Iraqis, then shaming the US for removing him. Suddenly they find their moral compass and want to get involved in Syria for humanitarian reasons.


That's a very good point, actually.


Times change, regimes change, priorities can change with them.  If Bush were still president we'd have tens of thousands of troops in Libya and an invasion force in Syria already.
 
2013-08-27 11:09:40 PM
The legion just went in a raid in Somalia where they left then prisoner along with leaving one of their injures comrades behind because they lost accountability, he was executed. They don't ensure 10% of them die, they just don't know how to prevent it. The French are incompetent and the Legion, while they try, is old and busted.

Reading this made me think I was having a stroke.
 
2013-08-28 12:58:11 AM

Gdalescrboz: fark France. They didn't have any problem letting Saddam gas the Kurds and kill additional tens of thousands of Iraqis, then shaming the US for removing him. Suddenly they find their moral compass and want to get involved in Syria for humanitarian reasons.


WTF are you on about? The last attacks on the Kurds was in the late 80s, at the end of the Iran-Iraq war.
And the US had no problem with Saddam gassing Iranians - in fact, we now know that the US  helped.

Christ, do you guys read anything with actual dates in it?
 
2013-08-28 05:18:11 AM
France kinda reminds me of my brother who used to stand safely behind my mom and say "yeah!" while she was punishing me.
 
2013-08-29 12:02:55 AM

abfalter: Someone needs to post it:


Alright, I will:  http://www.cracked.com/article_18409_the-5-most-statistically-full-shiat-national-stereotypes.html

"Since 387 BC, France has fought 168 major wars against such badasses as the Roman Empire, the British Army and the Turkish forces. Their track record isn't too shabby, either: They've won 109, lost 49 and drawn (or as close as you can "draw" a war) 10 times.

And not a damn thing's changed since then: France is the most underestimated military force in the world, with the third highest military spending on the planet and an estimated 300 nuclear warheads at their disposal."
 
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