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(Komo)   Stop for me in the crosswalk? "I will shoot your face off"   (komonews.com) divider line 66
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2013-08-27 07:07:04 PM

jso2897: Because I am pretty sure that they are not going to arrest some random guy for no reason but some lady's say-so.


Rape culture!!!
 
2013-08-27 07:19:48 PM

sheep snorter: Meh. Still better than when the police do their crosswalk entrapment scheme.
Plainclothes officer gets in the crosswalk to make people stop so he can cross. Anyone who doesn't stop, or didn't quite notice him so to stop, gets one of a dozen police on motorcycles chasing them down for failure to stop at the crosswalk.

/Just charge the cop with impeding traffic flow(he keeps crossing back and forth with no intension of going anywhere on the other side) and entrapment problem solved


You could try paying attention and stopping for pedestrians.
 
2013-08-27 07:48:13 PM

davidphogan: sheep snorter: Meh. Still better than when the police do their crosswalk entrapment scheme.
Plainclothes officer gets in the crosswalk to make people stop so he can cross. Anyone who doesn't stop, or didn't quite notice him so to stop, gets one of a dozen police on motorcycles chasing them down for failure to stop at the crosswalk.

/Just charge the cop with impeding traffic flow(he keeps crossing back and forth with no intension of going anywhere on the other side) and entrapment problem solved

You could try paying attention and stopping for pedestrians.


That requires putting others before themselves.  That's so hard.
 
2013-08-27 07:51:27 PM

Pockafrusta: No gun was found... His word against hers, yet he was arrested. Awesome.


So what were his words?
 
2013-08-27 09:19:31 PM
to be fair
i hate when i have timed my crossing with the speed of the cars and some asswipe stops for me like i was 4 years old.

If i'm an adult, looking you in the eye as I cross the street- yes I farking see you and have taken your existence into account.

If he really 'ran into traffic' then run him the fark over, you won't be charged.
 
2013-08-27 09:44:01 PM

trappedspirit: Pockafrusta: No gun was found... His word against hers, yet he was arrested. Awesome.

So what were his words?


"Arrest me for this and i will shoot your faces off"
 
2013-08-27 09:46:08 PM

jigger: Cars stopping for pedestrians in crosswalks (that don't have an associated red light) is totally stupid and backward. Of course that means it's the law in DC.


SEATTLE.  Literally the first word in the article.
 
2013-08-27 10:06:52 PM

mrEdude: to be fair
i hate when i have timed my crossing with the speed of the cars and some asswipe stops for me like i was 4 years old.

If i'm an adult, looking you in the eye as I cross the street- yes I farking see you and have taken your existence into account.

If he really 'ran into traffic' then run him the fark over, you won't be charged.


They stop for you because 1) if there's a crosswalk, it's the law, 2) they are thoughtful and courteous, and 3) you could be the dumbest motherfarker on Earth and most people don't want to hit someone.  It's a part of defensive driving.  Be thankful instead of being an ingrate.
 
2013-08-27 10:10:06 PM

umad: jso2897: Because I am pretty sure that they are not going to arrest some random guy for no reason but some lady's say-so.

Rape culture!!!


If I could get "culture" alone in an alley, I would rape it.
 
2013-08-27 10:36:08 PM

sheep snorter: Meh. Still better than when the police do their crosswalk entrapment scheme.
Plainclothes officer gets in the crosswalk to make people stop so he can cross. Anyone who doesn't stop, or didn't quite notice him so to stop, gets one of a dozen police on motorcycles chasing them down for failure to stop at the crosswalk.

/Just charge the cop with impeding traffic flow(he keeps crossing back and forth with no intension of going anywhere on the other side) and entrapment problem solved


How is a cop crossing the street entrapment?
 
2013-08-27 11:52:56 PM

jso2897: Theaetetus: jso2897: Theaetetus: Pockafrusta: No gun was found... His word against hers, yet he was arrested. Awesome.

Yes, awesome. Otherwise, criminals could simply ditch weapons after an assault or robbery and say "your word against mine, therefore you can't arrest me or investigate further."
He hasn't been convicted, much less charged, so don't get your ass all sandy just yet.

Yeah, I'm not worried that this sterling citizen is going to have anything he doesn't deserve happen to him.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't vote to convict based on these facts. She's obviously not telling us everything - why would someone say "shut your mouth" if all you did was wave? She probably said something to him, like "don't run out into the street, you farking retard, I almost hit you."
That makes me question how credible she is about the presence of the gun.

There is probably some salient fact that the incredibly well-written, in-depth Internet article neglected to mention - as wildly improbable as that may seem. Because I am pretty sure that they are not going to arrest some random guy for no reason but some lady's say-so.


Normally I'd agree with both you guys on this, but I think in this case, the crazy guy told her not to say anything because in his crazy mind if she didn't say anything about the shiat he was pulling he wouldn't get into trouble, or something, he's crazy. Same with the cops taking him in on her say so. Not only is likely there were other witnesses, but his behavior with the police after they arrived probably had far more bearing on the end result for him.

Otherwise, I totally share his sentiment quoted in the headline! I'm so farking sick of passive Seattle drivers. I've largely given up on being nice and just take the right of way at any opportunity, because they inevitably cede it anyway.
 
2013-08-27 11:58:56 PM

blatz514: Kahabut: I'm pretty much OK with the crosswalk enforcement they do out here. People get hit every year and sometimes it's bad. Cars in a 25-35mph zone with crosswalks need to farking pay attention, because we all know the pedestrians can't manage to do so.

*Takes out ear buds*

What was that?


It's always been this way. I was constantly baffled by the number of "car vs pedestrian" patients I had the two years I worked in Trauma Orthopedics at Harborview (Seattle). This was in the Walkman era, i.e. nearly no one walked around with headphones on. Admittedly a fair number of them were drunk pedestrians, but a lot weren't.  O.o
 
2013-08-28 12:09:13 AM

Precision Boobery: I don't know how it is in Washington, but these are all over the place in Chicago.

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We don't have signs all over about it, but not only is it the law in the crosswalk, but technically, here, pedestrians have the right of way at any intersection lacking controls as well.
 
2013-08-28 02:01:47 AM

SurfaceTension: Thingster: midigod: SurfaceTension: When you have the right of way, take it. Otherwise you're asking for an accident.

Thisthisthisthisthisthis

Not always.

There's a thing called the Pittsburgh left, you use it at 4 way signalized intersections that don't have left arrows.

Instead of charging forward as soon as the light turns green, you wait a second and let the guy making the left clear the intersection freeing the lane up to move (until the next person needs to make a left)

It guarantees at least one person clears the intersection per cycle instead of the entire lane just sitting there.

Sounds like poor road engineering to me.

And living in northern Virginia I know a little about poor road engineering.


I think Virginia's problem is that it's optimised for rush hour instead of the other 20 hours a day
 
2013-08-28 02:09:35 AM

mark12A: SurfaceTension: When you have the right of way, take it. Otherwise you're asking for an accident.


Oh so very much this. I've gotten to the point that I just sit there and stare at them until they give up and go. Just to punish (er, I mean, train) them to follow right of way rules.

The same with parking lot stoppers. All they have to do is keep going and I can smoothly and efficiently walk behind their car as it passes. But no! They stop so I can walk in front of them so they can wait until the optimum moment to mash the gas pedal to the floor and SQUASH MEEEEEE!

It's really a battle of control freaks, daring each other to fold...


I've had instances of kamikaze pedestrians who will run in front of my car, and when I'm not sure they've timed it correctly/seen me/avoided panic, it's far safer to simply let them pass.
 
2013-08-28 09:10:23 AM
God damn right. I hate it when cars stop for people in parking lots, etc. It takes 2 seconds for the pedestrian to wait for a car to pass, but 6 freaking cars have to wait 30 seconds for some slow ass person to cross.
 
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