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2013-08-27 02:58:58 PM
tfa addresses the issue of people not feeling comfortable taking time off when there is no set vacation policy, but ignores the more insidious problem: no vacation policy means no vacation accrual means no extra paycheck when an employee decides to leave the company.
 
2013-08-27 03:01:22 PM
And why is Dana Carvey's "The Church Lady"  writing for Quartz?
 
2013-08-27 03:03:37 PM
When do they say, you have to come in at some point.
 
2013-08-27 03:12:26 PM
This really means no vacation EBIT accounting (carrying millions in an escrow account). It also really means employees have no right to vacation whatsoever.

//The Unions were right about this
 
2013-08-27 03:22:08 PM
A lot of companies give you shiatloads of vacation time, then penalize you if you dare to take advantage of it. I'd rather have a strict vacation policy than have to be guessing about whether I've affected my standing by following company policy, but that's just me.
 
2013-08-27 03:29:10 PM

thomps: insidious problem: no vacation policy means no vacation accrual means no extra paycheck when an employee decides to leave the company.


I don't know if I'd call that insidious.  Companies have been chipping away at accrual for years.

I'd much rather not have to record or beg for vacation when I work a 50 hour week to begin with.
 
2013-08-27 03:29:31 PM
I'll just leave this sad, but true video from days of yore...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PemMTF2lQ3E
 
2013-08-27 03:36:27 PM

MrEricSir: A lot of companies give you shiatloads of vacation time, then penalize you if you dare to take advantage of it. I'd rather have a strict vacation policy than have to be guessing about whether I've affected my standing by following company policy, but that's just me.


I have 100 hours of vacation to use before the end of the year, but since we are an agriculture company, and harvest is starting, there's no vacation allowed until the beginning of November. I tried to take a couple of days off this week, and I got denied.

The best part is, I can only carry 20 hours over after the new year, and that has to be used by March. I've been here four years, and have never been able to use all my vacation time. I'm the only person in IT, so when I'm gone, there's nobody around to answer the phones or fix anything... so I basically get a bunch of four day weekends if I'm luck. I haven't had a week off in years.
 
2013-08-27 03:42:37 PM

thomps: tfa addresses the issue of people not feeling comfortable taking time off when there is no set vacation policy, but ignores the more insidious problem: no vacation policy means no vacation accrual means no extra paycheck when an employee decides to leave the company.


Except that that's not always a requirement.  When I left my previous job I had plenty of vacation on the books but they didn't pay it out.  They also wrote up a new policy after I left to left future employees know that they wouldn't pay out vacation when they left.

/checked with an HR friend at the time - this is totally legal in Washington state
//one of MANY reasons I left that place
 
2013-08-27 03:52:48 PM

KJUW89: thomps: tfa addresses the issue of people not feeling comfortable taking time off when there is no set vacation policy, but ignores the more insidious problem: no vacation policy means no vacation accrual means no extra paycheck when an employee decides to leave the company.

Except that that's not always a requirement.  When I left my previous job I had plenty of vacation on the books but they didn't pay it out.  They also wrote up a new policy after I left to left future employees know that they wouldn't pay out vacation when they left.

/checked with an HR friend at the time - this is totally legal in Washington state
//one of MANY reasons I left that place


I'm going to keep that mental note.  I wonder what other states allow that.
 
2013-08-27 04:00:11 PM

MrEricSir: A lot of companies give you shiatloads of vacation time, then penalize you if you dare to take advantage of it. I'd rather have a strict vacation policy than have to be guessing about whether I've affected my standing by following company policy, but that's just me.


I had bosses like that. You save up a crap ton of vacation time while everyone else takes off the second they get 8 hours. Then when you put in for a week you get crying or the line "We don't let people have off on wednesday because it's payroll day." Yet all his BFF's took wednesdays off at will. He just didn't feel like sticking around to do some actual work.
 
2013-08-27 04:13:42 PM
My company has had this for years, except they named it, "retirement".
 
2013-08-27 04:17:35 PM

palan: KJUW89: thomps: tfa addresses the issue of people not feeling comfortable taking time off when there is no set vacation policy, but ignores the more insidious problem: no vacation policy means no vacation accrual means no extra paycheck when an employee decides to leave the company.

Except that that's not always a requirement.  When I left my previous job I had plenty of vacation on the books but they didn't pay it out.  They also wrote up a new policy after I left to left future employees know that they wouldn't pay out vacation when they left.

/checked with an HR friend at the time - this is totally legal in Washington state
//one of MANY reasons I left that place

I'm going to keep that mental note.  I wonder what other states allow that.


Many.

I know Texas falls on this list.  That said, my current employer does pay out unused vacation time, but it's because they choose to do so not because they have to, they could easily change this in the future.
 
2013-08-27 04:23:43 PM
Stupid people kept in fear of losing their jobs if they work 1 second less than the "we own your life and soul" that their shiat company demands from them.

/working an IT job that pays good money hourly and OT has to be approved in advance.
//haven't worked a second of OT yet
 
2013-08-27 04:32:41 PM
I work for the State of Kansas and might as well have unlimited time. Cap is 300 hours and pretty much since my 3rd year I've been at or near the cap. They started me out at accruing 3 weeks a year, and that got bumped up to 4 weeks almost immediately.

I used to worry about making sure I was always under 300, but it got to be more trouble than it was worth. I'd be at like 296 or something with an accrual coming up, needed to take a day, but then This has to not get done for another day or That needs to be put off....

I finally just stopped caring if I was burning hours and just figured that there were better things in life to worry about.
 
2013-08-27 04:34:14 PM

Babwa Wawa: thomps: insidious problem: no vacation policy means no vacation accrual means no extra paycheck when an employee decides to leave the company.

I don't know if I'd call that insidious.  Companies have been chipping away at accrual for years.

I'd much rather not have to record or beg for vacation when I work a 50 hour week to begin with.


Last year, I left a company with a negative vacation balance.  They're notorious for not paying out positive balances in any acceptable length of time, but they sure as hell took money out of my final check to cover my negative balance.
 
2013-08-27 04:35:18 PM
We have this at where I work.  I personally don't like it, because I keep feeling like I have to justify my vacations to management.

I don't work more than 40 hours/week, though.
 
2013-08-27 04:38:50 PM
Since I've been at my current company for over ten years, I get 4 weeks (160 hours) of vacation per year, plus 10 PTO (80 hours) days (Personal Time Off). I am allowed to cash-out two weeks (80 hours) of vacation per year. I can let one week (40 hours) of vacation carry-over to the next year. And I can carry-over 1 week (40 hours) of PTO. I am required to take at least one week off per year (the company doesn't want people getting burned out). Any vacation/PTO time that doesn't get used or carried-over is lost. I like that I work for a company that gives a lot of time off. With that said, I really don't need that much time off from work. My job isn't usually all that stressful, and I get to come-and-go as I see fit. It'd be nice if I could cash out more vacation and some PTO time, but I really can't complain.
 
2013-08-27 04:40:08 PM
I would love this.

My manager is pretty good with my time anyway, but I have a lot of things out of the office that need my time.

Sr Mgmt may soon end my manager's flexibility though... we'll see.
 
2013-08-27 04:41:28 PM

MugzyBrown: I have a lot of things out of the office that need my time.


You're still turning tricks on the side?
 
2013-08-27 04:52:53 PM
I think I'd make great use of that policy. My goal this year is to take a vacation of some type every other week. I'm doing pretty well too:

2012:
Sept 1-3rd - vacation at friend's island house
Sept 6-8: surf camp in So. Cal (actually got paid to attend that one)
Sept 15-21: sailing a sailboat in Desolation Sound
Sept 27-31: run "Tower of Terror" marathon in Disneyworld
Oct 13-17: road trip, Yellowstone
Nov 9-11: road trip, Oregon Coast
Nov 23 - Dec 21: cruise to Hawaii/Tahiti

2013:
Jan 10-14: Disneyworld marathon
Jan 29-31: Disneyworld again, just cause
Feb 8-10: Road trip, Astoria, OR
Feb 14-18: Iceland, to photograph the Northern Lights
Mar 4-17: Cruise the Mediterranean, Rome, Turkey, Greece.
April 12-14: sailboat flotilla in the San Juans
April 19-21: sail race in the S. Puget Sound
May 12-13: Disneyland
May 17-18: Sailing class in NW Washington
May 25-27: Las Vegas for g/f's cousins 21 run
June 14-16: NW Emmy awards
June: 17-18: Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm
June 21-25: Mt. Rainier climb
July 12-Aug 17: Arctic Circle cruise, double trans-Atlantic: Greenland, Iceland, Norway, Ireland, N. Ireland, Labrador, Newfoundland & Boston.
Aug 23-25: Central WA River rafting

Coming up in 2013:
Yellowstone road trip
A month of sailing in Canada
Royal Hawaiian, Honolulu
Disneyland
Yellowstone in the winter

Booked for 2014:
Disneyworld marathon
Dancing w/ the Stars Cruise in the Caribbean (not 100% yet, but highly likely of winning this one)
Iceland, for the Northern lights
Trans-Atlantic from Miami to Copenhagen via the Azores & London.
3-months sailing around Vancouver Island

That's it for now. I'd like to fit in an Australia/New Zealand cruise, see Ipanema, Antarctica, along with Myanmar and Japan in the coming year or two, too.
 
2013-08-27 04:57:58 PM
I think we're all missing the real story here... $89/lb for ground up cockroaches!
 
2013-08-27 05:00:09 PM
LOL, I work at a car dealership.  LOLWUT is vacaeton?
 
2013-08-27 05:06:43 PM

MrSteve007: I think I'd make great use of that policy. My goal this year is to take a vacation of some type every other week. I'm doing pretty well too:

2012:
Sept 1-3rd - vacation at friend's island house
Sept 6-8: surf camp in So. Cal (actually got paid to attend that one)
Sept 15-21: sailing a sailboat in Desolation Sound
Sept 27-31: run "Tower of Terror" marathon in Disneyworld
Oct 13-17: road trip, Yellowstone
Nov 9-11: road trip, Oregon Coast
Nov 23 - Dec 21: cruise to Hawaii/Tahiti

2013:
Jan 10-14: Disneyworld marathon
Jan 29-31: Disneyworld again, just cause
Feb 8-10: Road trip, Astoria, OR
Feb 14-18: Iceland, to photograph the Northern Lights
Mar 4-17: Cruise the Mediterranean, Rome, Turkey, Greece.
April 12-14: sailboat flotilla in the San Juans
April 19-21: sail race in the S. Puget Sound
May 12-13: Disneyland
May 17-18: Sailing class in NW Washington
May 25-27: Las Vegas for g/f's cousins 21 run
June 14-16: NW Emmy awards
June: 17-18: Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm
June 21-25: Mt. Rainier climb
July 12-Aug 17: Arctic Circle cruise, double trans-Atlantic: Greenland, Iceland, Norway, Ireland, N. Ireland, Labrador, Newfoundland & Boston.
Aug 23-25: Central WA River rafting

Coming up in 2013:
Yellowstone road trip
A month of sailing in Canada
Royal Hawaiian, Honolulu
Disneyland
Yellowstone in the winter

Booked for 2014:
Disneyworld marathon
Dancing w/ the Stars Cruise in the Caribbean (not 100% yet, but highly likely of winning this one)
Iceland, for the Northern lights
Trans-Atlantic from Miami to Copenhagen via the Azores & London.
3-months sailing around Vancouver Island

That's it for now. I'd like to fit in an Australia/New Zealand cruise, see Ipanema, Antarctica, along with Myanmar and Japan in the coming year or two, too.


I try and take two days of vacation every week.
 
2013-08-27 05:16:53 PM
At my company, we have one rule: Get your work done. We have an office attach to our warehouse, but you can work from home whenever you like. When you are not working or on the road, you are free to use your time as you see fit. You can even consult, so long as you don't do work that competes with our business. The concept of PTO doesn't exist. Just get your work done.
 
2013-08-27 05:17:34 PM

RangerTaylor: LOL, I work at a car dealership.  LOLWUT is vacaeton?


Don't worry, if the Tesla model works, you'll be introduced to lots of vacation I'm sure.
 
2013-08-27 05:30:08 PM
Vacation time?

I just wish my company would give me my 401k money that they took out of my paycheck and never deposited.
 
2013-08-27 06:27:15 PM
I'd much rather work at a company with 5 vacation days a year and is very liberal about time off without pay than work for a company with "unlimited vacation" that gives you a hard time when you actually want to use it. I can budget my money and take off a month or two a year without pay and not miss the paycheck.
 
2013-08-27 07:11:23 PM

dchurch0: MrEricSir: A lot of companies give you shiatloads of vacation time, then penalize you if you dare to take advantage of it. I'd rather have a strict vacation policy than have to be guessing about whether I've affected my standing by following company policy, but that's just me.

I have 100 hours of vacation to use before the end of the year, but since we are an agriculture company, and harvest is starting, there's no vacation allowed until the beginning of November. I tried to take a couple of days off this week, and I got denied.

The best part is, I can only carry 20 hours over after the new year, and that has to be used by March. I've been here four years, and have never been able to use all my vacation time. I'm the only person in IT, so when I'm gone, there's nobody around to answer the phones or fix anything... so I basically get a bunch of four day weekends if I'm luck. I haven't had a week off in years.


Can you cash it out?
 
2013-08-27 07:41:33 PM

jayhawk88: I work for the State of Kansas and might as well have unlimited time. Cap is 300 hours and pretty much since my 3rd year I've been at or near the cap. They started me out at accruing 3 weeks a year, and that got bumped up to 4 weeks almost immediately.

I used to worry about making sure I was always under 300, but it got to be more trouble than it was worth. I'd be at like 296 or something with an accrual coming up, needed to take a day, but then This has to not get done for another day or That needs to be put off....

I finally just stopped caring if I was burning hours and just figured that there were better things in life to worry about.


I do miss the vacation.  I went from working for the state of Kansas to working for a city and had my vacation cut from 22 days/yr to 10.  It kind of sucks, but my schedule is flexible enough that I can grab the occasional four day weekend and I also gave up a 80-mile one-way commute.  I do miss having all of Christmas week off, though.
 
2013-08-27 07:57:18 PM
I have that policy at my current job. So far it's been OK -- I've been able to take more than two weeks per year, usually around four, plus random days for things like kids being sick etc.

It can be bad when you never can seem to get out from under your workload, but that can happen even when you have a defined vacation policy (see dchurch0 above)
 
2013-08-27 08:02:20 PM

rugman11: I do miss having all of Christmas week off, though.


That was so choice when I was still single. Bunch of my friends work in the aircraft industry down here in Wichita and they always had that week after off. I'd always ask for that same week off and we'd just play video games and drink beer the whole week.
 
2013-08-27 08:07:33 PM

jayhawk88: rugman11: I do miss having all of Christmas week off, though.

That was so choice when I was still single. Bunch of my friends work in the aircraft industry down here in Wichita and they always had that week after off. I'd always ask for that same week off and we'd just play video games and drink beer the whole week.


Hell it's nice when you're married, too.  My wife worked for the Wichita school district (and St. Louis before that) so it was like having free license to take a week+ vacation every year.  No having to get people to cover for you.  No having to worry about missing things at work.  When everybody's on vacation, that's when I can really relax.
 
2013-08-27 08:08:08 PM
My present and previous jobs were highly seasonal. As an accountant for a car dealership, I was told that they prefer I not take vacation during the months of April through September, but offer lots of time off to make up for it (starts building after 6 months). I consider that fair, since peak selling season pays my check.

My previous job was retail and we were literally prohibited (it was in my contract as an assistant manager) from taking vacation between October 15th and December 31st. I can see the reason why, but I made up for it by being a filthy communist during the Christmas season.
 
2013-08-27 08:17:51 PM

dchurch0: MrEricSir: A lot of companies give you shiatloads of vacation time, then penalize you if you dare to take advantage of it. I'd rather have a strict vacation policy than have to be guessing about whether I've affected my standing by following company policy, but that's just me.

I have 100 hours of vacation to use before the end of the year, but since we are an agriculture company, and harvest is starting, there's no vacation allowed until the beginning of November. I tried to take a couple of days off this week, and I got denied.

The best part is, I can only carry 20 hours over after the new year, and that has to be used by March. I've been here four years, and have never been able to use all my vacation time. I'm the only person in IT, so when I'm gone, there's nobody around to answer the phones or fix anything... so I basically get a bunch of four day weekends if I'm luck. I haven't had a week off in years.


I used to do that. I took a LONG vacation (promising I was only a cell phone call away) knowing I was quitting in 3 months. I guessed nothing terrible would happen, so I just left the phone off / home for 3 weeks.

Something happened, they were angry. Meh, I got yelled at (loudly) and gave my month notice. They got apologetic, offered me an apology, a very small pay increase (50 cents), and (laughingly) more vacation.

I didn't have the heart to tell them I was getting paid double at he next job.
 
2013-08-27 08:49:23 PM

nemisonic: This really means no vacation EBIT accounting (carrying millions in an escrow account). It also really means employees have no right to vacation whatsoever.

//The Unions were right about this


Could you explain a bit how vacation accounting best practices work?  My company has this deal where they won't allow vacation to accrue over 208 hours, and also they make us take two extra weeks off every year but only pay us for one of those weeks.  How does that benefit them, we're stressed out and could use that production but somehow we get by...
 
2013-08-27 09:14:27 PM
Things this HR guy doesn't understand:

If an employee has an important event coming up that they want to take a vacation day for, and has made it well known to everyone under the sun that he/she intents to attend come hell or high water, why would you ever deny that person vacation time? And why be so shocked and appalled when they inevitably call in sick?

This shiat ain't that complicated.
 
2013-08-27 09:31:02 PM
I inherited some of my dad's work behaviors, such as stoically going to work come hell or high water or any sickness short of surgery.  Dad almost never took vacation days, and It rubbed off on me in that I never think to put in for them.  When my wife reminds me to, I'll burn up a few making 3 and 4-day weekends, usually wrapped around existing holiday time off.  I tried a real 2-week vacation this summer, and it didn't go as well as I had hoped. For one thing, it takes my head and body about 4 days just to get used to the idea that I can sleep in and have nowhere to go at any particular time.  About three days before the end of the 2 weeks, my mind starts thinking about the office and re-entering the stress and dropped projects that nobody picked up the slack on for me. Kind of like old people and "sunset syndrome", my head is already at the office  by Saturday of the last weekend.

In between those times, I'm in a mad dash of pre-planned activities, mostly "honey-do" projects that have piled up when my weekends weren't enough to finish or start them. Then too, the rest of the family regards a vacationing dad as a free resource for playing repair-man and taxi-driver.  Not that I mind, all the time; after all, it's a proud function of a dad to be there for his kids and for a husband to be available to his wife.  But they all seem to forget that dad might have an agenda of his own, little projects or jaunts and side-trips he thinks of on workdays, but can't carry out.

Finally, for me, the biggest luxury is no material wealth but just time to do anything or nothing at all: being "off the clock" and answering to no-one is ultimate luxury. If I want to sit and stare at a tree for an hour, without having to jump at someone's call, sometimes that moment to myself is as good as a million dollars.

My conclusion is that 2 weeks is too short to appreciate and really absorb.  A month might be about right.  Or regularly-spaced 4-day weekends.  But a month won't fly at work unless it's for getting chemo or something. The good news is my workplace pays me every fall for un-used vacation days and the extra cash comes in handy sometimes.
 
2013-08-27 10:40:37 PM

palan: KJUW89: thomps: tfa addresses the issue of people not feeling comfortable taking time off when there is no set vacation policy, but ignores the more insidious problem: no vacation policy means no vacation accrual means no extra paycheck when an employee decides to leave the company.

Except that that's not always a requirement.  When I left my previous job I had plenty of vacation on the books but they didn't pay it out.  They also wrote up a new policy after I left to left future employees know that they wouldn't pay out vacation when they left.

/checked with an HR friend at the time - this is totally legal in Washington state
//one of MANY reasons I left that place

I'm going to keep that mental note.  I wonder what other states allow that.


In Illinois also you have to take your vacation days before you give your 2week notice or you won't get them at all.

I worked in a store that was so short staffed, I took one 5 day vacation in 5 years there. The other years it was just an extra paycheck. It was retail so I wasn't making enough to go anywhere anyway.

I donno about that living with coworkers thing. My ex and I worked at the same company briefly and we literally had nothing to talk about at home.
 
2013-08-27 11:29:31 PM

Any Pie Left: I inherited some of my dad's work behaviors, such as stoically going to work come hell or high water or any sickness short of surgery.  Dad almost never took vacation days, and It rubbed off on me in that I never think to put in for them.  When my wife reminds me to, I'll burn up a few making 3 and 4-day weekends, usually wrapped around existing holiday time off.  I tried a real 2-week vacation this summer, and it didn't go as well as I had hoped. For one thing, it takes my head and body about 4 days just to get used to the idea that I can sleep in and have nowhere to go at any particular time.  About three days before the end of the 2 weeks, my mind starts thinking about the office and re-entering the stress and dropped projects that nobody picked up the slack on for me. Kind of like old people and "sunset syndrome", my head is already at the office  by Saturday of the last weekend.

In between those times, I'm in a mad dash of pre-planned activities, mostly "honey-do" projects that have piled up when my weekends weren't enough to finish or start them. Then too, the rest of the family regards a vacationing dad as a free resource for playing repair-man and taxi-driver.  Not that I mind, all the time; after all, it's a proud function of a dad to be there for his kids and for a husband to be available to his wife.  But they all seem to forget that dad might have an agenda of his own, little projects or jaunts and side-trips he thinks of on workdays, but can't carry out.

Finally, for me, the biggest luxury is no material wealth but just time to do anything or nothing at all: being "off the clock" and answering to no-one is ultimate luxury. If I want to sit and stare at a tree for an hour, without having to jump at someone's call, sometimes that moment to myself is as good as a million dollars.

My conclusion is that 2 weeks is too short to appreciate and really absorb.  A month might be about right.  Or regularly-spaced 4-day weekends.  But a month won't fly at work u ...


Hi, I went on vacation for three weeks once and it was too much, so the next year we only went two weeks.  But I don't have kids and all that plumbing stuff to repair at various locations.  I'd recommend that you try two weeks in Cancun or Jamaica or Hawaii.  If that doesn't work, try three weeks next year.
 
2013-08-27 11:41:16 PM

Any Pie Left: I inherited some of my dad's work behaviors, such as stoically going to work come hell or high water or any sickness short of surgery.  Dad almost never took vacation days, and It rubbed off on me in that I never think to put in for them.  When my wife reminds me to, I'll burn up a few making 3 and 4-day weekends, usually wrapped around existing holiday time off.
My conclusion is that 2 weeks is too short to appreciate and really absorb.  A month might be about right.  Or regularly-spaced 4-day weekends.  But a month won't fly at work u ...


OMG, you have to start taking sick days also!  If you don't use them, you're just reducing your salary/hourly wage.

re-reading, I'd try a month in Hawaii or Cancun depending on your finances to start

/don't go for the weekends, you'll just end up doing nothing/little stuff for others.  You need some time for yourself!
 
2013-08-28 01:37:18 AM

LemSkroob: Vacation time?

I just wish my company would give me my 401k money that they took out of my paycheck and never deposited.


Call the Attorney General's office of your state. This is under the Wage and Hour board.
 
2013-08-28 02:31:16 AM

dchurch0: MrEricSir: A lot of companies give you shiatloads of vacation time, then penalize you if you dare to take advantage of it. I'd rather have a strict vacation policy than have to be guessing about whether I've affected my standing by following company policy, but that's just me.

I have 100 hours of vacation to use before the end of the year, but since we are an agriculture company, and harvest is starting, there's no vacation allowed until the beginning of November. I tried to take a couple of days off this week, and I got denied.

The best part is, I can only carry 20 hours over after the new year, and that has to be used by March. I've been here four years, and have never been able to use all my vacation time. I'm the only person in IT, so when I'm gone, there's nobody around to answer the phones or fix anything... so I basically get a bunch of four day weekends if I'm luck. I haven't had a week off in years.


Nobody can cover your job on like Fridays so you can take a 3 day weekend?
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2013-08-28 02:53:54 AM
I have an unholy amount of both vacation and sick time accrued. I never get to take vacations. It's not because my boss won't let me take a day off. It's that, if I do take a day off, he interprets that as me not caring enough to handle my workload, and he permanently reassigns those projects to random other people. I'd love to have a job where I could take a day off without someone f*cking with my assignments as soon as my back is turned.
 
2013-08-28 03:28:11 AM
I'm on my way back from my three year vacation.

Unpaid, unfortunately.

It felt like around the right amount of time.
 
2013-08-28 08:21:57 AM
Quirky.com has an interesting policy - unlimited vacation days, plus the whole company takes a week off at the end of each quarter.

My guess is no one dares to take additional days off, but hey, four weeks a year, and there's no guilt over leaving the rest of your team short staffed.

Puts some limits on your vacation scheduling though.
 
2013-08-28 09:23:48 AM

OhioUGrad: dchurch0: MrEricSir: A lot of companies give you shiatloads of vacation time, then penalize you if you dare to take advantage of it. I'd rather have a strict vacation policy than have to be guessing about whether I've affected my standing by following company policy, but that's just me.

I have 100 hours of vacation to use before the end of the year, but since we are an agriculture company, and harvest is starting, there's no vacation allowed until the beginning of November. I tried to take a couple of days off this week, and I got denied.

The best part is, I can only carry 20 hours over after the new year, and that has to be used by March. I've been here four years, and have never been able to use all my vacation time. I'm the only person in IT, so when I'm gone, there's nobody around to answer the phones or fix anything... so I basically get a bunch of four day weekends if I'm luck. I haven't had a week off in years.

Nobody can cover your job on like Fridays so you can take a 3 day weekend?
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I take a lot of Fridays and Mondays off. Long weekends are the best I get. I still get a lot of calls on my cell phone, though.
 
2013-08-28 09:26:49 AM

loonatic112358: dchurch0: MrEricSir: A lot of companies give you shiatloads of vacation time, then penalize you if you dare to take advantage of it. I'd rather have a strict vacation policy than have to be guessing about whether I've affected my standing by following company policy, but that's just me.

I have 100 hours of vacation to use before the end of the year, but since we are an agriculture company, and harvest is starting, there's no vacation allowed until the beginning of November. I tried to take a couple of days off this week, and I got denied.

The best part is, I can only carry 20 hours over after the new year, and that has to be used by March. I've been here four years, and have never been able to use all my vacation time. I'm the only person in IT, so when I'm gone, there's nobody around to answer the phones or fix anything... so I basically get a bunch of four day weekends if I'm luck. I haven't had a week off in years.

Can you cash it out?


Nope. It's use it or lose it. I may talk to the President of the company about that, though. They'd probably let me cash some of it out if we worked something out. But company policy is that you cannot carry more than 20 hours over, and can't cash it out. Being that I'm the only one in the corporate office who doesn't have some kind of backup, though, I may be able to get them to let me cash mine out... since I never use it all.
 
2013-08-28 10:03:09 AM
We've been doing this at our company since 1995.  If your work gets done and quality is high we don't care when you take off or where you do your work from. Granted we average about 12 people so it is easier than at a larger company... but the key thing is that your employees much be valued and in return they will care.
 
2013-08-28 11:16:40 AM

dchurch0: MrEricSir: A lot of companies give you shiatloads of vacation time, then penalize you if you dare to take advantage of it. I'd rather have a strict vacation policy than have to be guessing about whether I've affected my standing by following company policy, but that's just me.

I have 100 hours of vacation to use before the end of the year, but since we are an agriculture company, and harvest is starting, there's no vacation allowed until the beginning of November. I tried to take a couple of days off this week, and I got denied.

The best part is, I can only carry 20 hours over after the new year, and that has to be used by March. I've been here four years, and have never been able to use all my vacation time. I'm the only person in IT, so when I'm gone, there's nobody around to answer the phones or fix anything... so I basically get a bunch of four day weekends if I'm luck. I haven't had a week off in years.


Idiot.
 
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