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2013-08-27 03:51:02 PM
4 votes:
Of course the internet loves introverts. It was created by and for us.
2013-08-27 03:25:51 PM
3 votes:
Shut up, Slate.  Nobody cares what you think.
2013-08-27 02:12:11 PM
3 votes:
Introverts, rejoice! The Internet thinks your glorious idiosyncrasies and private vexations are adorable and that you are worthy of complex care and feeding. Yes, it's great to be an introvert in 2013!

You mean I'm not alone?

That sucks.
2013-08-27 09:38:33 PM
2 votes:
Actually, being an introvert really means that before you speak, what you're going to say doesn't go straight out your mouth, it meanders around your brain's memory centers first. This meandering makes it very difficult to answer things in the split second that the rest of the world seems to demand. Since typing online allows for a time span in which to reasonably answer, that's why the internet is an excellent leveling field for introverts.
2013-08-27 04:53:09 PM
2 votes:
Introvert or covert narcissist?


It seems that going on and on about being a sensitive introvert tends actually makes one a self loathing asshole.
2013-08-27 04:03:48 PM
2 votes:

special20: Slate pretends to know what they are talking about yet again. Typical mixed message in the article that appeals to nearly everyone trying to be in the know, stay on the bleeding edge of the latest trends. Not a shred of factual evidence or logical thread to follow...

Is Slate female?


No, Slate is just an overeducated upper middle class white American from the Northeast who was sheltered from the actual world but thinks they know better and more than everyone and no matter how stylish or trendy they want to be, they still only feel at home wearing clothing from the LL Bean catalogue.
2013-08-27 03:56:05 PM
2 votes:
I'm probably about 75% introverted, although by all accounts I'm a super-friendly drunk.
2013-08-28 12:47:57 AM
1 votes:

Vector R: Bumblefark: Vector R: Actually, being an introvert really means that before you speak, what you're going to say doesn't go straight out your mouth, it meanders around your brain's memory centers first. This meandering makes it very difficult to answer things in the split second that the rest of the world seems to demand. Since typing online allows for a time span in which to reasonably answer, that's why the internet is an excellent leveling field for introverts.

Actually, I would think it tips the field in their favor.

That mental "meandering" is taking place because the introvert has more/better information to sift through. So, what they do end up saying tends to be more knowledgeable and better considered, on average.

Introverts have probably always held an advantage wherever communication was mostly done through writing (e.g., the arts and sciences). What the internet did is to create a whole new dimension to the social area, built squarely on the introvert's home turf.

Nah, I figure it's even, since plenty of the basement dwellers are introverts who suddenly got a way to talk to the world and make us look bad. ;)

Seriously though, I very much agree, though it would be hubris to say the information is always better. Interestingly enough, Fark is one of those rare places online where extroverts do have a bit of an edge. Since a big point of the commenting is to get the funniest, snarkiest thing posted the fastest, there's still that same old "Dammit, I was gonna say that!" with the introvert lag. No fix for that though - extroverts have the speed while introverts have the details.


On the first point, yeah...touche.

But, the remark about information isn't hubris. That was actually an off-hand reference to the psychological research on introversion, at least as I remember it. The long and short of it is that, while introverts aren't really anymore intelligent (i.e., IQ), they do tend to process more and better information than extroverts. Which is just another way of affirming the conventional wisdom that introverts tend to be more observant and deliberative than extroverts.

...as for funny/smart, I dunno...I don't see a lot of self-proclaimed extroverts hanging around to trade snark in these "introvert/extrovert" threads, do you? I mean -- I take your point. But, at the same time, once you get past the competition to make all of the obvious jokes on a topic, seems to me the advantage swings back to the introverts.
2013-08-27 10:18:42 PM
1 votes:

Vector R: Actually, being an introvert really means that before you speak, what you're going to say doesn't go straight out your mouth, it meanders around your brain's memory centers first. This meandering makes it very difficult to answer things in the split second that the rest of the world seems to demand. Since typing online allows for a time span in which to reasonably answer, that's why the internet is an excellent leveling field for introverts.


I appreciate your post because as a typical "introvert" who feels fairly comfortable communicating on the internet, I like to see this dichotomy addressed.  That said, I don't think your theory really covers it.  It's kind of like saying you shoot basketballs really well when there's no clock. This is not better than or equal to being able to shoot well WITH a clock; it's objectively inferior.

We introverts like to point out the other end of the spectrum--the chatty overbearing annoying people who don't seem to filter their words--as validation of our behavior, while ignoring the decent-sized chunk of the populace that's capable of moderation.  I don't think any introvert should be forced to change their behavior and become more "normal," but I don't like the explanations that cast non-introverts as impulsive and inferior.  I do believe that more can be achieved in this world by being comfortable with and capable of both extrovert and introvert behavior, as many people are. It's not good or bad, it's just the way it is.  We can choose not to seek those benefits, but I don't think we can honestly say they don't exist.
2013-08-27 10:07:46 PM
1 votes:

Vector R: Actually, being an introvert really means that before you speak, what you're going to say doesn't go straight out your mouth, it meanders around your brain's memory centers first. This meandering makes it very difficult to answer things in the split second that the rest of the world seems to demand. Since typing online allows for a time span in which to reasonably answer, that's why the internet is an excellent leveling field for introverts.


Actually, I would think it tips the field in their favor.

That mental "meandering" is taking place because the introvert has more/better information to sift through. So, what they do end up saying tends to be more knowledgeable and better considered, on average.

Introverts have probably always held an advantage wherever communication was mostly done through writing (e.g., the arts and sciences). What the internet did is to create a whole new dimension to the social area, built squarely on the introvert's home turf.
2013-08-27 09:34:47 PM
1 votes:

addy2: Indeed, isn't it interesting how mad extraverts get at the notion that some people just don't want to interact with them!
They try so hard to convince others that that's a problem.
I have yet to see an extrovert give as crap. I suspect you're making that up.


Actually a lot of people, and I don't give a fark what kind of people they are, do get offended and take it very personally if you don't want to interact with them. Because your personality has nothing to do with it (like you might just be a quiet person), it's all about them. You could never convince them that your actions just might not have anything to do with them.
2013-08-27 06:32:50 PM
1 votes:
1. Be introvert
2. Study hard and get STEM degree
3. Make lots of money as engineer or something
4. Have plenty of money for DVDs, books, videogames, booze
5. Being an introvert, easily avoid life-ruining relationships such as marriage or having kids
5. Win at life.
2013-08-27 05:22:51 PM
1 votes:

JNowe: Is this going to be like when geeks became trendy and the fashionable people started wearing glasses and saying they were geeks?  Do we have any external indicators than can be made marketable?


Well, we tend to be quiet.

If it'll get the "fashionable people" to STFU, I'd be willing to pay for that.
2013-08-27 05:00:45 PM
1 votes:

aerojockey: In before all the extraverts who pop in to angrily say that introversion is just anxiety.

/kind of funny to see extraverts being defensive, that's definitely a last-couple-years new thing


I think it's just more visible with the all the social networking options now.

I definitely remember all sorts of people getting defensive back in the 90's when I was in junior high and high school and that introversion was just "low self-esteem" when I didn't want to go out for sports and just read during lunch instead of play basketball.

Fark those people.  I love me now, back then they only convinced me there was something "wrong" with me and made me really farking depressed.
2013-08-27 04:47:04 PM
1 votes:
my wife is an introvert bordering on hermit like.

/love her.
2013-08-27 04:40:58 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: "...you prefer the window or aisle seat on buses."

I've never been on a bus that has anything other than window or aisle seats (except that long seat that stretches across the entire back wall).
2013-08-27 04:21:03 PM
1 votes:
I was on the internet before it was cool.

/it was called "the usenet"
//get off my lawn
2013-08-27 04:19:41 PM
1 votes:
Being an introvert is never cool, but having the thoughtfulness and consideration that often comes with being very introverted very much is. It depends on the day as to if I'd say the trade offs are worth it, but given the full-derp alternative of being a loudmouth, impulsive extrovert I'll be happy staying who I am.
2013-08-27 04:15:25 PM
1 votes:

groppet: For years I was a really bad introvert. Really wouldn't talk to anyone but in college I came out of my shell a little bit. I'm a lot better now, but now and then I will slip back into my shell.



Sounds a lot like my own story -- around the same age I was probably full-blown avoidant. Certain social situations, like being in a large room with more than like 5 people, made me feel claustrophobic, I couldn't stand it. Goes without saying I never talked to strangers.

That's all gone away. And nowadays I'll always talk to strangers if I think I might make them laugh, and I usually succeed. I think. And I think I probably come across as being comfortable in my own skin.

Thing is most of the time I *like* being alone.
2013-08-27 03:59:57 PM
1 votes:

stevetherobot: No, being an introvert is not cool.

/Introvert
//Hate being an introvert


Sorry you think so. I hope you can work with it to be happy.
2013-08-27 03:55:48 PM
1 votes:

InfrasonicTom: Wait, I thought being introverted was recently included in the autism spectrum.


Everybody is on the autistic spectrum now. It's how they claim the need for grant money.
2013-08-27 03:49:41 PM
1 votes:
No, being an introvert is not cool.

/Introvert
//Hate being an introvert
 
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