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(Yahoo)   Kerry, "The use of chemical weapons is reminiscent of Ghengis Khan." Syria calls Kerry a liar, says, "They never used chemical weapons in Cambodia at Christmas time"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 293
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2013-08-27 09:42:15 AM  
More reminiscent of Ronald Reagan, who helped Saddam Hussein attack Iran with sarin nerve gas.
 
2013-08-27 09:50:00 AM  
Sarin is just bug spray for humans.

Call me when they've got nukes.
 
2013-08-27 09:51:36 AM  
"They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

Syrians are bad ass, man.
 
2013-08-27 10:04:13 AM  
Shut up Kerry. I don't care. You assholes who voted for Iraq before you were against it have no credibility in this department. I don't care of Assad kills every last rebel with awful biological weapons. I don't want our country involved in this one. No more. Enough.
 
2013-08-27 10:11:16 AM  
Kerry-Go back to Skull and Bones and jerk off in a coffin. Take Bush with you for old times.
 
2013-08-27 10:11:49 AM  
Did he say it "Jenjis Khan".

I love when he does that.
 
2013-08-27 10:11:50 AM  
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2013-08-27 10:15:16 AM  
John Kerry has been and always will be an idiot.  Watch him convince the other idiot in the white house to drag us into another stupid war.
 
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2013-08-27 10:16:57 AM  

I_C_Weener: "They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

Syrians are bad ass, man.


It's the Middle East, that's a sporting event there.
 
2013-08-27 10:18:10 AM  
World War III here we come...

...or is that here we go?
 
2013-08-27 10:18:28 AM  
Looks like you Americans are getting involved in this whether the populace wants it or not.
 
2013-08-27 10:18:44 AM  
Ghengis Khan farts in your general direction.

/I've got nothing
 
2013-08-27 10:19:00 AM  

SeriousGeorge: Looks like you Americans are getting involved in this whether the populace wants it or not.


You mean Obamacare?
 
2013-08-27 10:19:28 AM  

I_C_Weener: "They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

Syrians are bad ass, man.


It's not that uncommon or bad ass or hardcore.  It's been done before.
There was this one torture method used in Africa where they would stick an air pump up your rectum and pump you full of air until something burst.
 
2013-08-27 10:19:40 AM  
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2013-08-27 10:20:01 AM  
And the thousand dead in Egypt is reminiscent of St. Francis of Assisi. That's why they are being rewarded by a billion dollars.
 
2013-08-27 10:21:23 AM  
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2013-08-27 10:21:34 AM  
Obama's Bluff

"Syria was not an issue that affected the U.S. national interest until Obama declared a red line. It escalated in importance at that point not because Syria is critical to the United States, but because the credibility of its stated limits are of vital importance. Obama's problem is that the majority of the American people oppose military intervention, Congress is not fully behind an intervention and those now rooting the United States on are not bearing the bulk of the military burden -- nor will they bear the criticism that will follow the inevitable civilian casualties, accidents and misdeeds that are part of war regardless of the purity of the intent.

The question therefore becomes what the United States and the new coalition of the willing will do if the red line has been crossed. The fantasy is that a series of airstrikes, destroying only chemical weapons, will be so perfectly executed that no one will be killed except those who deserve to die. But it is hard to distinguish a man's soul from 10,000 feet. There will be deaths, and the United States will be blamed for them."
 
2013-08-27 10:21:41 AM  

SeriousGeorge: Looks like you Americans are getting involved in this whether the populace wants it or not.


Just remember it is not about the voters it is about the military industrial complex, think of all the jobs that will be lost if we stop the wars.
 
2013-08-27 10:21:48 AM  
John Kerry is lying?

shocking
 
2013-08-27 10:22:55 AM  
The thing about Kerry is that he will be gung ho about going into Syria and then will be against it 1 year later.  He is much like the Clintons in that regard.

Obama has learned the hard way that you can't just vote 'present' once President.
 
2013-08-27 10:23:53 AM  
This will not end up in a war. Maybe a few drones strikes and some intel support, but that's it.
 
2013-08-27 10:25:07 AM  
Assad is in Russia. Good luck killing him.
 
2013-08-27 10:25:22 AM  

neversubmit: World War III here we come...

...or is that here we go?


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you know, I never understood the President Obama in Joker face before.... Maybe they knew something we didnt.
 
2013-08-27 10:26:21 AM  

I_C_Weener: "They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

Syrians are bad ass, man.


Are they talking about the Mexican Cartels?
 
2013-08-27 10:27:33 AM  

The Muthaship: Did he say it "Jenjis Khan".

I love when he does that.


yeah, i was wondering if he went with Ghengis Khan or Jenjis Khan.

The Economist has a practical take on this issue:

America's credibility depends on intervening. Mr Obama made no response to a previous claim of chemical-weapons use. It seems likely that Mr Assad was testing the water to see if he could get away with a bigger one. If he is allowed to, nobody will take American threats seriously, at least while Mr Obama is president.

This paper believes that America is generally a force for good in the world. If Mr Obama does not keep his promises, it will no longer be much of a force at all.


Calling us out with that last line.  Does Obama and Kerry want to preside over an America that isn't a force at all?
 
2013-08-27 10:29:29 AM  
So, the use of chemical weapons in plain sight is to go unpunished?  I'm for staying out of this gorram mess too, but we should discuss the outcome of that action.
 
2013-08-27 10:29:35 AM  

Nadie_AZ: Shut up Kerry. I don't care. You assholes who voted for Iraq before you were against it have no credibility in this department. I don't care of Assad kills every last rebel with awful biological weapons. I don't want our country involved in this one. No more. Enough.


I don't want us involved either... but I think it isn't the rebels we are boo hoo-ing about. It is the innocent civilians, the mothers, fathers and children, that lack an advocate for their well-being.
 
2013-08-27 10:29:38 AM  
You know, I know that we got involved in two shiatty wars we never should have and that caused a backlash, but the fact is if we in America truly want to be a better country, we have to help protect innocent people around the world. Work with other major powers and stop atrocities. People's right to live, the most basic of rights, is being flagrantly violated, yet so many of us want to do nothing. It makes me sad to be in a country where so many people would choose to ignore that rather than help.
 
2013-08-27 10:29:46 AM  
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Wanted for questioning
 
2013-08-27 10:30:40 AM  
Syria is now preparing their swift boats for a counterattack.
 
2013-08-27 10:31:38 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: neversubmit: World War III here we come...

...or is that here we go?

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you know, I never understood the President Obama in Joker face before.... Maybe they knew something we didnt.


No, no they did not.
 
2013-08-27 10:31:53 AM  
If Syria is allowed to get away with this unpunished, get ready to see Iran and North Korea run amuck.
 
2013-08-27 10:32:02 AM  
Syria calls Kerry a liar, says, "They never used chemical weapons in Cambodia at Christmas time"

Maybe they did use it, and that's why the false memory was "seared" into his brain.
 
2013-08-27 10:32:51 AM  

sign_of_Zeta: but the fact is if we in America truly want to be a better country, we have to help protect innocent people around the world.


How does that make any sense at all?

If you want to focus on improving your country, be like Sweden or something, and tell the entire world you don't give a shiat about their wars and disagreements for a few decades.
 
2013-08-27 10:33:25 AM  
We didn't intervene in Rwanda.

We haven't intervened in Darfur.

Why in God's name would we go anywhere near Syria?  They're a Russian proxy, let Putin sort it out.
 
2013-08-27 10:35:05 AM  

SlothB77: If Syria is allowed to get away with this unpunished, get ready to see Iran and North Korea run amuck.


You mean the civil war in Syria will be so appealing to them that they'll decide they need civil wars of their own?

Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
 
2013-08-27 10:35:13 AM  

Nadie_AZ: Shut up Kerry. I don't care. You assholes who voted for Iraq before you were against it have no credibility in this department. I don't care of Assad kills every last rebel with awful biological weapons. I don't want our country involved in this one. No more. Enough.



*scoff* "Our Country".   Petty tribalism like that holds humanity back more than anything else.    Humans are humans.  Something should be done.
 
2013-08-27 10:35:14 AM  

sign_of_Zeta: You know, I know that we got involved in two shiatty wars we never should have and that caused a backlash, but the fact is if we in America truly want to be a better country, we have to help protect innocent people around the world. Work with other major powers and stop atrocities. People's right to live, the most basic of rights, is being flagrantly violated, yet so many of us want to do nothing. It makes me sad to be in a country where so many people would choose to ignore that rather than help.


Saddam gassed his own people, and killed 100's of thousands of his citizens. So you were okay with the Iraq war then?
 
2013-08-27 10:36:00 AM  
So those of you who want us to do nothing are basically okay with giving world leaders carte blanche for war crimes and genocide?

I'm the last person who wants us to go to war to support the rebels who want to overthrow Assad, the bulk of the rebel forces are the exactl same people who were shooting at US troops in Iraq while calling themselves Al-qaeda in Iraq. (Militant Syrian Salafist extremists-backed by Saudi cash)  but, doing this to civillians is not okay either.  It wasn't okay in Germany in the 40's nor Bosnia or Rawanda in the 90's or the Sudan in the 2000's.  There has to be a line over which no leader or ruler cannot cross without major consquences and Syria is over that line.

My solution?  Remove his stockpiles of chemical weapons and ability to deliver them.   A combined Tomahwak /Drone/B-2 raid on all his known chemical weapons stockpiles and airfields is perfectly appropriate and extremely low risk response by the US.   If we also struck his major artillery  stockpiles, Assad would lose the capability of waging offense war and force the civil to a negotiated end
 
2013-08-27 10:36:12 AM  
I wonder if this whole situation would be playing out differently if Israel hadn't bombed the Syrian nuclear facility back in 2007. If Syria had nuclear weapons there is no way Obama would even consider air strikes.
 
2013-08-27 10:37:13 AM  

TheDirtyNacho: Nadie_AZ: Shut up Kerry. I don't care. You assholes who voted for Iraq before you were against it have no credibility in this department. I don't care of Assad kills every last rebel with awful biological weapons. I don't want our country involved in this one. No more. Enough.


*scoff* "Our Country".   Petty tribalism like that holds humanity back more than anything else.    Humans are humans.  Something should be done.


And yet we want to build a massive wall to keep our southern neighbors out. While they struggle with drug cartels and poverty. Got it.
 
2013-08-27 10:37:30 AM  
 
2013-08-27 10:38:11 AM  
How do we know it was Assad that used the chemical weapons?
 
2013-08-27 10:38:29 AM  

SlothB77: If Syria is allowed to get away with this unpunished, get ready to see Iran and North Korea run amuck.



Iran, despite being mean to its people (like half the countries in this world) does not deserve the treatment they have been getting. Quit painting them as bastards.
Say, didn't the US give Saddam chem weapons and tell them where to use them against Iran? Yeah screw off jack.
 
2013-08-27 10:39:09 AM  
I'm not happy with the idea of another war, but in this case I'm okay with it.  Verifiable use of serious chemical weapons is just kind of one of those lines that once crossed a strongly worded letter doesn't cover.  There's a bunch of shiatholes that treat their people just as badly, and that's horrible too, but some genies you have to smack a biatch for letting out of the bottle.
 
2013-08-27 10:40:15 AM  

SlothB77: If Syria is allowed to get away with this unpunished, get ready to see Iran and North Korea run amuck.


Why is that our problem?
 
2013-08-27 10:40:31 AM  

neversubmit: No, no they did not.


If he puts boots on the ground in a civil war and we side with a force that are eating the still beating hearts of their enemies..

Well he just wants to watch the world burn.

I told everyone that "red line in the sand" line was going to bite us in the arse.
 
2013-08-27 10:41:02 AM  

sign_of_Zeta: . People's right to live, the most basic of rights, is being flagrantly violated, yet so many of us want to do nothing. It makes me sad to be in a country where so many people would choose to ignore that rather than help.


It's not that we don't care, it's just that we're convinced that any intervention will do little to stem the death of innocents. It might stop them from dying to chemical weapons, but I don't see how dying to rockets, gunfire, etc. is in any way preferable.
 
2013-08-27 10:41:05 AM  

sign_of_Zeta: You know, I know that we got involved in two shiatty wars we never should have and that caused a backlash, but the fact is if we in America truly want to be a better country, we have to help protect innocent people around the world. Work with other major powers and stop atrocities. People's right to live, the most basic of rights, is being flagrantly violated, yet so many of us want to do nothing. It makes me sad to be in a country where so many people would choose to ignore that rather than help.


So we should kill the "rebels" then?
 
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