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(BusinessWeek)   Time Warner Cable offers free rabbit ears so customers can again enjoy 1966 CBS quality programming   (businessweek.com) divider line 236
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2013-08-27 09:00:45 AM  

BitwiseShift:  rabbit ears all have a virus and you'd need to buy the special $100 virus protection.


See, nah, see, that there is funny cause, see, analogue?  Analogue is just electrons doing what they do in hardware, see?  They ain't piggybackin' none of them packets.  Did you laugh in his face and pee on his shoe?
 
2013-08-27 09:01:15 AM  
Don't worry, the FCC will fix that soon when they shut down OTA broadcasts in the name of needing the bandwidth for emergencies or whatever the lie was when they pulled off that BS a couple years ago and moved OTA tv to short-range digital transmission.  There's a pretty penny to be made putting that spectrum up for auction.
 
2013-08-27 09:03:22 AM  
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2013-08-27 09:04:10 AM  

pag1107: There's a pretty penny to be made putting that spectrum up for auction.


"Well, we're all moved in now and the resources have been stripped, manufactured and sold.  Now what do we do?"

"Take everything left, gut it like a fish, whore it out to the highest bidders and move the rest overseas."

"Can we bleed them dry for less stuff every year?"

"This is America, sir.  Of course we can.  I'll have none of that commie libtard talk interrupting my profit enjoyment."
 
SH
2013-08-27 09:04:15 AM  
OTA HDTV via antenna is much better looking than the compressed version the cable company sends. Assuming, of course, you are in a decent reception area.
 
2013-08-27 09:04:59 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Time Warner loses as soon as football starts.


CBS still does major PGA events, and that's still going on.
 
2013-08-27 09:05:48 AM  
There was an article on DSLreports a year or so ago where the dinosaurs at TWC poked fun at Google Fiber, saying they welcome the challenge. Yeah, good luck with that! Google is in a three-way fight with Apple and Microsoft ... and those two companies actually change with the times.
 
hej
2013-08-27 09:06:07 AM  

Vodka Zombie: baufan2005: People get pissed at the cable company but if they take a higher programming price then they are just going to pass cost on to the customer.

Or, you know, they could ditch the home shopping crap to cover the cost.


I'm no cable company CEO, but I'm guessing channels that are nothing more than 24/7 advertisements are actually paying the cable company, not the other way around.
 
2013-08-27 09:06:37 AM  

GrymRpr: "enjoy 1966 CBS quality programming "

CBS did have quality programing back then.

The Jackie Gleason Show
The Ed Sullivan Show
TheSmothers Brothers
Mission Impossible

Hell,  They even had Lost in space!


Hell, Andy Griffith!  The Wild Wild West!  Of course, they also had Hogan's Heroes in their red column, but no one's perfect.
 
2013-08-27 09:07:23 AM  

starlost: clever ploy. most people don't live in a area that gets many channels over the air. i know we are only talking one channel here but even having to hook up the rabbit ears and switching between rabbit ear and cable tv is too much work or confuses some people. my parents are in their 80's and could get many channels over the air but they can't deal with using rabbit ears and readjusting them every time they change channels. it isn't so much the cable company is saying they are great but that rabbit ears can really suck but our company is doing its best to serve you in this difficult time.


The house I grew up in had a big farking antenna on the roof.  We got all the channels.  When I moved out on my own I had rabbit ears in apartments and I could get every channel even if meant turning them just the right way.  That was in a big city though,

Most people live in big cities, so most people could get most of the shiat on TV with just a simple antenna.

It's really not hard to do.  You set up your TV once and you're done.  Maybe you have to walk up to it and mess with the rabbit ears for certain channels.

Most people over 50 are well acquainted with using antennas to get TV.  I would actually think it was younger people who couldn't understand that you have to assume Fox viewing positions to watch the TV.
 
2013-08-27 09:07:57 AM  
Found it. LINK

"We're prepared to compete head to head with Google."

OK, so not as brazen as I recalled, but still ... lulz.  GOOD LUCK!
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-27 09:11:18 AM  

lecavalier: Found it. LINK

"We're prepared to compete head to head with Google."

OK, so not as brazen as I recalled, but still ... lulz.  GOOD LUCK!


that's stupid, even for a corporate press release.
 
2013-08-27 09:12:13 AM  

Carth: tripleseven: TheMaskedArmadillo: What?  This shiat hasn't been resolved yet?

Nope, not that I'm too torn up about losing CBS, but time warner is a piece of shiat in general.  Thankfully, the fios is getting hooked up in my building this month.

I'll be first on the list for install.

They just hooked up FIOS on our street. I was amazed how much more expensive it is than Comcast for internet. Like double the price expensive and there is a $360 early termination fee if you cancel before 2 years.


How much is time warner paying you per post?
 
2013-08-27 09:12:40 AM  
The thing with TeeVee is the same thing with pop music.  It's not new anymore and there's about 2947598279847 avenues of content distribution begging for content.  It's not as easy to monetize and pay for actual writer, actors, quality production methods and garner enough ad revenue to make it profitable.  So you just essentially turn the hose on from the septic tank and blast whatever schadenfreude will keep the people eating popcorn.  Lowest common denominator TeeVee and music that's about making money and not music or TeeVee.  Stay tuned for Ow My Balls after this 2 hour presentation of a loop of Miley Cyrus shaking her ass like a meth addled alley whore.If you want actual, interesting shows with writers, panel shows, production values and sitcoms that are actually funny, you might need to move to England.  2¢
 
2013-08-27 09:12:58 AM  

poot_rootbeer: Hammer down
Rabbit ears
Hammer down


Boat of car?
 
2013-08-27 09:13:15 AM  

GoldSpider: I'd have completely cut cable by now if I didn't get a discount on Internet service greater than the cost of basic cable.  Installing an antenna on my roof (which ya really need to do to get the best OTA signal) and wiring it throughout the house seems like a colossal pain in the ass as well.


Try the attic if you have one.  I have a 30 dollar antenna in my attic and get 90%+ signal strength on all channels without having to adjust it.   You still have to fish a wire through your walls, but not having to install an antenna on the roof is a plus.
 
2013-08-27 09:14:23 AM  

tripleseven: Carth: tripleseven: TheMaskedArmadillo: What?  This shiat hasn't been resolved yet?

Nope, not that I'm too torn up about losing CBS, but time warner is a piece of shiat in general.  Thankfully, the fios is getting hooked up in my building this month.

I'll be first on the list for install.

They just hooked up FIOS on our street. I was amazed how much more expensive it is than Comcast for internet. Like double the price expensive and there is a $360 early termination fee if you cancel before 2 years.

How much is time warner paying you per post?


I've never used Time Warner do they make the OTA antenna's I've been advocating or set Comcast's prices lower than FIOS?
 
2013-08-27 09:14:42 AM  

d23: lecavalier: Found it. LINK

"We're prepared to compete head to head with Google."

OK, so not as brazen as I recalled, but still ... lulz.  GOOD LUCK!

that's stupid, even for a corporate press release.


"If there is demand for [1 Gbps] service we will provide it," Time Warner Cable chief operating officer Rob Marcus told attendees of a conference this week*

*
actual speeds may vary, shut off completely or suck to the point where you set your modem on fire and buy books.
 
2013-08-27 09:15:11 AM  

bunner: George Babbitt: I get consistent 24/7/365 3.83 MegaByte download speed.

Bless you, yo.  I got crap.


That speed level is one step off from their premium top tier. You deserve better service. Call and complain, make them get tech after tech out there till you get what you paid for. I call over every drop in quality or quantity of service.
 
2013-08-27 09:18:23 AM  
Still don't have cable ...

but I live in NYC, so I get like a bajillion Tv stations anyhow
 
2013-08-27 09:19:16 AM  

George Babbitt: You deserve better service. Call and complain,


I did.  I went around the roses with their II about 30 times in 3 years.  I handed the usual scripted malarkey, they tried to sell me the "bad first cop" crap which, oddly, didn't seem to affect my Leopard 10.8 Mac, just my Wix 86 machine, they sent techs, they whargarbled, got snooty, prevaricated and blew hard and nothing changed.  I got AT&T Uverse VoIP and net, atm, and it's speeds are sh*t, too but it's about, yeah, 1/3 the price.  I just unplugged everything but the DVD rig from the TeeVee.  Don't miss it.
 
2013-08-27 09:20:20 AM  
Tier III rather.  Tiers  I and  II are useless as norks on a carp.
 
2013-08-27 09:20:32 AM  
1966 CBS programming also included Green Acres, probably the best sitcom of all time.3.bp.blogspot.com
Can you hear me now?
 
2013-08-27 09:22:11 AM  

Vodka Zombie: baufan2005: People get pissed at the cable company but if they take a higher programming price then they are just going to pass cost on to the customer.

Or, you know, they could ditch the home shopping crap to cover the cost.


We'd love to! However, the content providers won't let us thanks to the wonders of content bundling.  If cable company wants to distribute Channel A, the content provider says "Ok, you can get Channel A but only if you pay us $X and also carry Channel B,C,D"

The power is almost entirely in the content provider's court.
 
2013-08-27 09:24:31 AM  

gfid: You set up your TV once and you're done. Maybe you have to walk up to it and mess with the rabbit ears for certain channels.


Sure, but as somebody else mentioned, the bigger problem is that the audio/video signal goes in and out entirely when the signal is weak or interrupted.   Folks who didn't have cable back in the day were used to still being able to see and hear what was happening even through the snow and ghosting.
 
2013-08-27 09:24:37 AM  

Matthew Keene: 1966 CBS programming also included Green Acres, probably the best sitcom of all time.  [img Green Acres]
Can you hear me now?


If you have a region free DVD player, order the episodes of Miranda from BBC.  Miranda Hart is the funniest thing on TeeVee, atm.  She is adorable.
 
2013-08-27 09:25:50 AM  

pag1107: Don't worry, the FCC will fix that soon when they shut down OTA broadcasts in the name of needing the bandwidth for emergencies or whatever the lie was when they pulled off that BS a couple years ago and moved OTA tv to short-range digital transmission.  There's a pretty penny to be made putting that spectrum up for auction.


SH: OTA HDTV via antenna is much better looking than the compressed version the cable company sends. Assuming, of course, you are in a decent reception area.


The antenna that we use now is the size of a VHS tape, granted we live in the city, and  is miniscule in comparison to what used to be needed for consistent signal reception, but if you need more than that for living in a more rural setting, they still have the bigger options and this place is the best to learn how to get the what you need to enjoy it.

Also, there are three times as many channels now OTA as their were before the analog to digital switch. Many of them are great channels. Our local affiliates of NBC, ABC, CBS, and FOX all have secondary back channels dedicated to retroTV, movies, a combination of the two and one with a music video channel. There are also a number of local stations that have sprung up with local focus. And our local PBS affiliate has two back channels, one showing 24/7 CSPAN like coverage of the state and the other like a food/craft/home channel.
 
2013-08-27 09:26:58 AM  

Matthew Keene: 1966 CBS programming also included Green Acres, probably the best sitcom of all time.[400x300 from http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CYdUKUGdlpE/TfGKbQrAAdI/AAAAAAAABmA/uIlNOxSD yLU/s640/GreenAcres132.jpg image 400x300]
Can you hear me now?


Damn his head touches that wire and hes done./
 
2013-08-27 09:31:31 AM  
Find a product that used to me free and monopolize it's access.

Find a product that is cheap to buy, is necessary or addictive and destroyed in use.

Find a method of billing that offers direct access to the buyer's bank.

We not only got greedy, we got lazy.  Everybody's looking for the best con, nobody is building better mousetraps.
 
2013-08-27 09:32:59 AM  
BE free...
 
2013-08-27 09:34:06 AM  

bunner: Don't miss it.


No doubt. We watch it occasionally when we stay at hotels and that more than anything drives us out of the room to see the stuff we are traveling for in the first place.
 
2013-08-27 09:35:42 AM  

bunner: BE free...


BEOS?
 
2013-08-27 09:36:46 AM  

d23: lecavalier: Found it. LINK

"We're prepared to compete head to head with Google."

OK, so not as brazen as I recalled, but still ... lulz.  GOOD LUCK!

that's stupid, even for a corporate press release.


"We'll tell you what you want, citizen, and when we've decided what you want, WE will sell it to you." Niiiiice.
 
2013-08-27 09:38:55 AM  

George Babbitt: bunner: BE free...

BEOS?


No, typo correction.  :  )  The whole "oh, no, see MY O/S is teh 1337!" thing is a bit like people arguing over the best car, to me.
 
2013-08-27 09:39:37 AM  

Waldo Pepper: I only have antenna tv and the picture rivals that of cable and it's free


^^^^
 
2013-08-27 09:39:55 AM  
I am not understanding this at all, but maybe my service is different.

We have Bright House cable here, which gets its content from Time Warner somehow I think.

Showtime and CBS Sports channels are dropped but our local CBS channel 10 still works and we see prime time TV, morning and evening news and everything.

So...Looks like we will have NFL on CBS as well.


Anyone else in this same situation, or understand why this is how it works for me and not others?
 
2013-08-27 09:40:38 AM  
I love my OTA. I get my PBS channels (Oregon Public Broadcasting is GREAT, BTW), including NPR, the "Big Three" channels, including the secondary channels showing retro TV and movies, local news and more. Between that and the 'net, I get almost everything I care to watch.
 
2013-08-27 09:40:51 AM  

pag1107: Don't worry, the FCC will fix that soon when they shut down OTA broadcasts in the name of needing the bandwidth for emergencies or whatever the lie was when they pulled off that BS a couple years ago and moved OTA tv to short-range digital transmission.  There's a pretty penny to be made putting that spectrum up for auction.


They auctioned part of it to the cell phone companies who are using it for LTE.  They allocated the rest for public safety, but didn't require public safety entities to move to it or even those that setup on it to give back the VHF or UHF spectrum they were using before.  The FCC has had no problem requiring rebanding in the 800mhz band (moving operations to a different portion of the band) or narrowbanding (requiring emissions to occupy less space). I would like to see a requirement that all new public safety builds use the 700mhz space and set some kind of 15 year requirement that all operations on 800 and the 450-512 bands move to the 700.

I'm still at a loss as to why taking away this 100mhz block also necessitated requiring all analog stations to convert to digital.

This isn't the first time they took TV spectrum away.  The 800mhz band used to belong to TV before they reallocated it for cellular and LMR in the early 80s.
 
2013-08-27 09:44:23 AM  

tshetter: I am not understanding this at all, but maybe my service is different.

We have Bright House cable here, which gets its content from Time Warner somehow I think.

Showtime and CBS Sports channels are dropped but our local CBS channel 10 still works and we see prime time TV, morning and evening news and everything.

So...Looks like we will have NFL on CBS as well.


Anyone else in this same situation, or understand why this is how it works for me and not others?


IIRC, only the largest cities have had their local CBS channels removed. NYC, Chicago, etc.
 
2013-08-27 09:46:15 AM  

Carth: tripleseven: TheMaskedArmadillo: What?  This shiat hasn't been resolved yet?

Nope, not that I'm too torn up about losing CBS, but time warner is a piece of shiat in general.  Thankfully, the fios is getting hooked up in my building this month.

I'll be first on the list for install.

They just hooked up FIOS on our street. I was amazed how much more expensive it is than Comcast for internet. Like double the price expensive and there is a $360 early termination fee if you cancel before 2 years.


Really? Here FIOS is less than half the price of Comcast, three times as fast on a bad day, and there is no contract. They do guarantee the price for two years, though. The part that was most amazing to me? Their advertised price is exactly what I pay every month. No extra taxes or fees. They said $29.99, I pay $29.99. It even includes all the equipment. The speed I get isn't what was advertised though; it's twice as fast.

How Comcast is still in business here, I have no idea. I would've happily paid double just to be rid of them.
 
2013-08-27 09:46:45 AM  

bunner: George Babbitt: bunner: BE free...

BEOS?

No, typo correction.  :  )  The whole "oh, no, see MY O/S is teh 1337!" thing is a bit like people arguing over the best car, to me.


Running BeOs would we ultra leet considering the most stable and current release, known as Haiku, is an alpha from Nov '12. I tried running the original back in ~2002 and it was like running the original BlackberryOS without a phone.
 
2013-08-27 09:50:05 AM  

BitwiseShift: Got rabbit ears back in early 2000, since HDTV broadcasts were just starting and wanted to get local stations as they came on line.  Worked well, even could pick up 60 miles away (lived on top of a hill in the hill country).

Funny thing, the Hypesters at Best Buy, who had never tried to get local HDTV at home and probably had never seen an HDTV tuner, said rabbit ears would never be sold at their high class establishment and besides, rabbit ears all have a virus and you'd need to buy the special $100 virus protection.


Nah, you just had a bad salesperson, could happen anywhere. My local Best Buy Service Advisor clued me into Monster rabbit ears, they were expensive at $499, but they're gold plated, and he said the gold plating keeps the viruses out. And sure enough, I haven't had a virus in my tv since!

Don't forget the extended warranty though(it was only $149), if the gold plating wears off, they're practically useless!

I hear Bose is good too.
 
2013-08-27 09:51:11 AM  

dj_spanmaster: tshetter: I am not understanding this at all, but maybe my service is different.

We have Bright House cable here, which gets its content from Time Warner somehow I think.

Showtime and CBS Sports channels are dropped but our local CBS channel 10 still works and we see prime time TV, morning and evening news and everything.

So...Looks like we will have NFL on CBS as well.


Anyone else in this same situation, or understand why this is how it works for me and not others?

IIRC, only the largest cities have had their local CBS channels removed. NYC, Chicago, etc.



I get this when I visit CBS to watch an episode:

i44.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-27 09:53:28 AM  

gfid: I love it.  Cable is dying a slow death.  They farked us over for years and now they're paying the price.  I can get this shiat over the internet.


Up here the Cell phone business is about to change. They are allowing some of the US providers to come up. The big three (Rogers, Bell and Telus) are trying to play the sympathy card thinking that service will erode. Problem is no one is sympathetic with their quality of service for what we are paying right now.
 
2013-08-27 09:54:19 AM  

pedrop357: I'm still at a loss as to why taking away this 100mhz block also necessitated requiring all analog stations to convert to digital.


I think it has something to do with the fact that you can squeeze more video/audio services into the same space as one analog channel. Instead of just having one PBS service on one channel, I get PBS, Create, World, and Kids in the same amount of spectrum. During the analog days, there were 7-9 channels in my area. Now, including sub-channels, I get 25 on a decent day.

Of course, cramming too many services on one channel can make some of them look rough. Channel 26 here has four sub-channels, and they look pretty compressed.
 
2013-08-27 09:56:55 AM  

Waldo Pepper: I only have antenna tv and the picture rivals that of cable and it's free


Picture is probably better as it isn't as compressed, but don't tell Smitty.
 
2013-08-27 09:57:54 AM  

tshetter: I am not understanding this at all, but maybe my service is different.

We have Bright House cable here, which gets its content from Time Warner somehow I think.

Showtime and CBS Sports channels are dropped but our local CBS channel 10 still works and we see prime time TV, morning and evening news and everything.

So...Looks like we will have NFL on CBS as well.


Anyone else in this same situation, or understand why this is how it works for me and not others?


The only CBS stations that are blacked out are those owned directly by Time Warner.  Affiliates owned by other companies aren't effected.  CBS affiliates owned by other companies already have their own deals in place.
 
2013-08-27 09:58:22 AM  

George Babbitt: dj_spanmaster: tshetter: I am not understanding this at all, but maybe my service is different.

We have Bright House cable here, which gets its content from Time Warner somehow I think.

Showtime and CBS Sports channels are dropped but our local CBS channel 10 still works and we see prime time TV, morning and evening news and everything.

So...Looks like we will have NFL on CBS as well.


Anyone else in this same situation, or understand why this is how it works for me and not others?

IIRC, only the largest cities have had their local CBS channels removed. NYC, Chicago, etc.

I get this when I visit CBS to watch an episode:

[850x674 from http://i44.tinypic.com/wi9erp.jpg image 850x674]


You can blame CBS for that one too. They're blocking all TWC traffic based on IP. I was simply referring to the fact that some people still get their local CBS channels through TWC; it's likely because they aren't in a major market.
 
2013-08-27 09:59:16 AM  

dj_spanmaster: tshetter: I am not understanding this at all, but maybe my service is different.

We have Bright House cable here, which gets its content from Time Warner somehow I think.

Showtime and CBS Sports channels are dropped but our local CBS channel 10 still works and we see prime time TV, morning and evening news and everything.

So...Looks like we will have NFL on CBS as well.


Anyone else in this same situation, or understand why this is how it works for me and not others?

IIRC, only the largest cities have had their local CBS channels removed. NYC, Chicago, etc.


I guess I should rejoyce living in a minor market area, yay!


CBS has been running radio ads saying that Time Warner has "dropped CBS programming."

Which isnt true as CBS pulled their programming from TWC.

Damn lying bastards!
 
2013-08-27 10:01:12 AM  

George Babbitt: dj_spanmaster: tshetter: I am not understanding this at all, but maybe my service is different.

We have Bright House cable here, which gets its content from Time Warner somehow I think.

Showtime and CBS Sports channels are dropped but our local CBS channel 10 still works and we see prime time TV, morning and evening news and everything.

So...Looks like we will have NFL on CBS as well.


Anyone else in this same situation, or understand why this is how it works for me and not others?

IIRC, only the largest cities have had their local CBS channels removed. NYC, Chicago, etc.


I get this when I visit CBS to watch an episode:

[850x674 from http://i44.tinypic.com/wi9erp.jpg image 850x674]


That's a separate issue.  Basically, TWC is telling CBS that "until you settle, we will not carry your content on any of our services," which includes their local affiliates and their internet.
 
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