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(Jezebel)   Finally, Jezebel weighs in on Miley's blatant racism   (groupthink.jezebel.com) divider line 187
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2013-08-27 12:46:51 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Hehe, look at all the white guys in here insisting that there's nothing to see, move along now.


We know all about stealing from the black man, and holding him down, so we know for sure when it isn't happening.
 
2013-08-27 12:48:17 PM  

Fano: The My Little Pony Killer: Hehe, look at all the white guys in here insisting that there's nothing to see, move along now.

We know all about stealing from the black man, and holding him down, so we know for sure when it isn't happening.


That's good! Now tell me another.
 
2013-08-27 12:49:43 PM  
This just in - acting like a whore is part of black culture.
All you caucasian-asian-other  whores stop that shiat right now.
Also, do not have a black friend, lest you be accused of accessorizing.
 
2013-08-27 12:54:09 PM  

Teiritzamna: gilgigamesh: How dare you objectify a proud black woman who is apparently stuck in the body of a nerdy white guy I guess.

he's transracial.  a cisraced individual like you could never understand.


That, good sir/madam, is farking brilliant.
 
2013-08-27 12:58:59 PM  

JAGChem82: I will say that "PoC" phrase drives me up a friggin wall, however.


Port of Call?
Piece of Cake?
Proof of Concept?

C'mon, throw me a bone here.
 
2013-08-27 01:07:57 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Fano: The My Little Pony Killer: Hehe, look at all the white guys in here insisting that there's nothing to see, move along now.

We know all about stealing from the black man, and holding him down, so we know for sure when it isn't happening.

That's good! Now tell me another.


The proud womyn of Jezebel have taken a moment away from man hating Mandingo fantasies to slut shame a woman who dares to room a zoom zoom and a boom boom.
 
2013-08-27 01:08:35 PM  
regarding this thread:
www.zeldauniverse.net
 
2013-08-27 01:10:23 PM  
so it's white peoples fault black girls act like whores? Fark you.
 
2013-08-27 01:11:58 PM  
A white guy invented basketball, I say it's about time we took it back...for America!
 
2013-08-27 01:12:03 PM  

gilgigamesh: MilesTeg: So if a black guy gets drunk on St. Patrick's Day does that make him a racist?

FWIW I have had more than one angry white guy challenge me for being at a St Patricks Day parade.

/black guy


Ain't they ever heard of the Black Irish?
 
2013-08-27 01:16:12 PM  
Author needs to calm down and learn there's a difference between correlation and causation.
 
2013-08-27 01:17:54 PM  

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: gilgigamesh: MilesTeg: So if a black guy gets drunk on St. Patrick's Day does that make him a racist?

FWIW I have had more than one angry white guy challenge me for being at a St Patricks Day parade.

/black guy

Ain't they ever heard of the Black Irish?


My brother lives in Cork, and his wife is black from Bordeaux. They wouldn't mind partying with you.

/actually she's Madagasi
 
2013-08-27 01:25:52 PM  
how do you know you have too much time on your hands?

You worry about "cultural appropriation" and think its bad.

Losers.
 
2013-08-27 01:26:10 PM  
Comparing tweaking to a Native American headress...

Strikes me as kind of racist
 
2013-08-27 01:26:10 PM  

loki see loki do: JAGChem82: I will say that "PoC" phrase drives me up a friggin wall, however.

Port of Call?
Piece of Cake?
Proof of Concept?

C'mon, throw me a bone here.


People of Color?
 
2013-08-27 01:28:52 PM  

abhorrent1: Feminism mentioned twice in the first two sentences. Stopped reading there.


Ha, that's nothing. You mentioned feminism once in your first sentence, so I stopped reading there.

I win.
 
2013-08-27 01:36:24 PM  

Giltric: People of Color?


That's the one.
 
2013-08-27 01:36:52 PM  

Teiritzamna: God Is My Co-Pirate: There's something gross about pretty, rich, white girls playing dress up as black women because they think it's "edgy" - see also Katy Perry's ridiculous mouth grill.

I think the problem here is the constant American conflation of race and class.  I have seen white people sporting grills, twerking, and whetever else, not because they were appropriating black culture, but because they grew up and lived in the same neighborhoods.  Its not that it is outrageous that a white girl is actin' black, a concept that is rather racist in and of itself (as a black person, am i supposed to act a certain way?  why?  who gets to determien what i get to act like). It should, however, be outrageous to see rich (often multigenerational rich) folks wear the emblems of the poor as if it was a humorous or titilating costume:

"I am dressing so ghetto!  Its hilarious!"

The conflation is doubly annoying because 1) it makes it really difficult to address actual class issues in america without the discussion becoming a race focused shiatshow and 2) it is far more racist to assume that poor = black than for a white girl to shake her (non-existent) ass.


Quoted for truth
 
2013-08-27 01:40:25 PM  

gfid: gilgigamesh: MilesTeg: So if a black guy gets drunk on St. Patrick's Day does that make him a racist?

FWIW I have had more than one angry white guy challenge me for being at a St Patricks Day parade.

/black guy

everyone is Irish on St. Patty's Day.

I'll buy you a beer next St. Patty's Day if I run into you.

/actually part Irish.
//If we deny black people the right to enjoy St. Patty's then we should deny all those other non-Irish farking white folks the pleasure of it too.
///Hell, the Irish have a lot of reasons to be pissed off at other white people


You said Patty instead of Paddy 3 times. I hate you.
 
2013-08-27 01:42:16 PM  

loki see loki do: JAGChem82: I will say that "PoC" phrase drives me up a friggin wall, however.

Port of Call?
Piece of Cake?
Proof of Concept?

C'mon, throw me a bone here.


PoC = People of color

Because I, as a black man, share so much in common with a Japanese female and a Puerto Rican teenager concerning our experiences in America. (eye roll)

I get that all three of us have been the victim of discrimination at some point and time, but everyone's life story isn't the same, and just because we are this non-white mass, we're going to agree on everything with each other.

Besides, I have no problem identifying myself as black or African-American, depending on how formal I need to be. That's how I'm identified as in America and the rest of the world, and I'm not ashamed of my heritage. PoC sounds like some political catchphrase conjured up by well meaning but overdesperate white people trying to be "non-racist".
 
2013-08-27 01:42:40 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: [614x1500 from http://31.media.tumblr.com/bc0e8032cd5270495cc4bc42e9c4f0d6/tumblr_mm1 alokIFN1s71q1zo1_1280.png image 614x1500]


Obvious fake is obvious?
 
2013-08-27 01:47:59 PM  

Crewmannumber6: so it's white peoples fault black girls act like whores? Fark you.


No, but it's ignorant white people's faults that they think all black women act like whores.
 
2013-08-27 01:53:00 PM  
Her performance would have been more entertaining had she started smearing black face all over herself and then deep throated an oversized chocolate cruller.
 
2013-08-27 01:54:37 PM  

JAGChem82: Besides, I have no problem identifying myself as black or African-American, depending on how formal I need to be. That's how I'm identified as in America and the rest of the world, and I'm not ashamed of my heritage. PoC sounds like some political catchphrase conjured up by well meaning but overdesperate white people trying to be "non-racist".


Yeah, it reeks of the euphemism treadmill.
 
2013-08-27 01:56:30 PM  
So, only black folks are allowed to have sexy time in their dancing?

Got it.
 
2013-08-27 01:57:43 PM  

styckx: I'm not reading any of that.. Cliff notes?


1) Miley is racist and continues the portrayal of black women as the "Jezebel" stereotype.

2) Miley thinks that the "urban" culture is representative of the entirety of black culture.

3) White people be making money off black culture, and that's bad.

I guess only Jay-Z and Kayne are allowed to exploit black culture and women.

And WTF is ratchet?
 
2013-08-27 02:03:22 PM  
JAGChem82:

Besides, I have no problem identifying myself as black or African-American, depending on how formal I need to be. That's how I'm identified as in America and the rest of the world, and I'm not ashamed of my heritage. PoC sounds like some political catchphrase conjured up by well meaning but overdesperate white people trying to be "non-racist".

I understand it came from non-white people who didn't like the idea that the collective descriptor of non-white people was "non-white" as they thought it implied they were lacking something and was therefore negative, instead POC implies that they have something and they view it as positive.

IMO it's a very academic distinction that probably turns off a lot of people, but hey - if someone wants to use it to refer to themselves I'm not going to argue.
 
2013-08-27 02:05:38 PM  
I am honesty floored that no one has mentioned the Lolita slant. I could be reading way to much into it but teddy bears, "Blurred Lines" the age gap and at the end where she does the coy, bite the foam finger creeped my husband the fark out.
 
2013-08-27 02:05:56 PM  
Of course, but how will Miley's twerking affect the price of crude oil  barrel?
 
2013-08-27 02:06:21 PM  

Super_pope: What's she going to do, counterbalance it with Booker T. Washington and Fredrick Douglas impersonators giving a rousing speech, then close with by thanking George Washington Carver for peanut butter before wrestling some biatches in a vat of it? Its a (really grotesque) three minute performance, and she's not THAT stupid.


I would watch this. And masturbate.
 
2013-08-27 02:07:21 PM  

Fano: The My Little Pony Killer: Fano: The My Little Pony Killer: Hehe, look at all the white guys in here insisting that there's nothing to see, move along now.

We know all about stealing from the black man, and holding him down, so we know for sure when it isn't happening.

That's good! Now tell me another.

The proud womyn of Jezebel have taken a moment away from man hating Mandingo fantasies to slut shame a woman who dares to room a zoom zoom and a boom boom.


That's the part that makes me come in here and wharrgarble :(

/and use emoticons, apparently
 
2013-08-27 02:09:05 PM  

Mugato: Wow, all Miley all the time. I suddenly miss when fark was obsessed with Ben Affleck as Batman.


You sir, win one internet for making me laugh for the first time today.
 
2013-08-27 02:11:41 PM  
The only problem I had with that article is insisting white people can't do "black" things. Excuse me? If white people insisted blacks couldn't do "white" things there would be such a nasty backlash of crying racism, but it is TOTALLY okay to do the opposite and if anyone cries racism nobody cares.

You can be special with special rights or equal with equal rights, but you can't be both. Special rights is just going to keep racism alive you stupid twat waffle.

For what it is worth "Thrift Shop" was BY FAR the most popular rap song of the year. Sorry he was a whitie and you think only black rappers should win. Talk about a racist biatch.
 
2013-08-27 02:12:15 PM  

mhd: Strik3r: I thought Cher was a "half-breed" Cheroke? Can you be racist about yourself?

IIRC, Cherokee never wore elaborate headdresses. So she's probably doubleplusracist.


Generally not, but they did adopt some stuff from the plains tribes after they got herded to Oklahoma, and that made it's way back to Tennessee and the Carolinas.

Cher, according to the wiki, is half Armenian (her dad) and half EuroMutt/Cherokee (her mom).
 
2013-08-27 02:12:38 PM  

A. Snatchfold: Crewmannumber6: so it's white peoples fault black girls act like whores? Fark you.

No, but it's ignorant white people's faults that they think all black women act like whores.


I didn't say all black women, you made that jump. So what does that say about you?
 
2013-08-27 02:13:28 PM  

KierzanDax: styckx: I'm not reading any of that.. Cliff notes?

1) Miley is racist and continues the portrayal of black women as the "Jezebel" stereotype.

2) Miley thinks that the "urban" culture is representative of the entirety of black culture.

3) White people be making money off black culture, and that's bad.

I guess only Jay-Z and Kayne are allowed to exploit black culture and women.

And WTF is ratchet?


From what I understood, the author had no problem with white people like Macklemore, Robin Thicke, Justin Timberlake etc, because they're authentic. But she had a problem with someone from Miley's background trying to get street cred by making a 180 in her theatrical presentation in an attempt to emulate what she thinks is 'black culture'. It's all a manufactured stunt designed to distance herself from her Disney roots, and the poor girl doesn't realize how silly she comes off.
 
2013-08-27 02:16:56 PM  

Crewmannumber6: I didn't say all black women, you made that jump. So what does that say about you?


It says when you speak of groups in the general plural (i.e. "white people," "black girls") the general assumption is you are speaking about groups in general.  It does no good to say (perhaps deliberately) provocative statements like white people can't jump, penguins make terrible lawyers, or stars aren't made mainly of hydrogen, and then try to walk that statement back with: Gotcha! i didn't say "all!"

The "all" is implied in English.
 
2013-08-27 02:17:28 PM  

Crewmannumber6: A. Snatchfold: Crewmannumber6: so it's white peoples fault black girls act like whores? Fark you.

No, but it's ignorant white people's faults that they think all black women act like whores.

I didn't say all black women, you made that jump. So what does that say about you?


It says to me that my reading comprehension is great, because you didn't use a qualifier when making your statement. :)
 
2013-08-27 02:19:35 PM  
I'll save many, many words: black women hate that white women are taking all the available black men.
 
2013-08-27 02:22:56 PM  
Am I the only one who thinks all back-up dancers are props? Pick up a new set in each town, don't even bother wicing them from place to place. They're like the sound/light crew, a difficult role to master maybe but hardly worth learning your name. Can we have a small rally that they were people and not just pre-recorded holograms of Miley? A rich person actually created a few jobs for those people. The system works.

If they were completely hidden in androgynous creepy bear costumes, would the lynch-mob have gotten this far or would we just be stuck on the "kid apes sexy, creeps out crowd" aspect?
 
2013-08-27 02:27:34 PM  

gilgigamesh: MilesTeg: So if a black guy gets drunk on St. Patrick's Day does that make him a racist?

FWIW I have had more than one angry white guy challenge me for being at a St Patricks Day parade.

/black guy


Challenge you for being "Irish" or just being racist and challenge you for daring to be black in public?
 
2013-08-27 02:27:57 PM  

Dafatone: Oh_Enough_Already: [614x1500 from http://31.media.tumblr.com/bc0e8032cd5270495cc4bc42e9c4f0d6/tumblr_mm1 alokIFN1s71q1zo1_1280.png image 614x1500]

Obvious fake is obvious?


Obvious parody is close enough to the truth that you almost couldn't tell?
 
2013-08-27 02:28:21 PM  
I could buy most of the article's arguments, except for the end, where the author pretty much says it's never ever OK to borrow from other cultures (and her dismissal of the commenter asking a similar question was kind of a turn off).  I get that a history of oppression plays a strong role in determining whether or not borrowing from another culture is acceptable.  But I feel that there's a difference between cultural misappropriation and a genuine admiration or even desire of a particular culture; I'm just having trouble figuring out where the line between the two is.  I mean, the world should be a melting pot, right?  Why shouldn't we be able to share in the best any cultures have to offer?

/neither black nor white
 
2013-08-27 02:28:55 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Fano: The My Little Pony Killer: Fano: The My Little Pony Killer: Hehe, look at all the white guys in here insisting that there's nothing to see, move along now.

We know all about stealing from the black man, and holding him down, so we know for sure when it isn't happening.

That's good! Now tell me another.

The proud womyn of Jezebel have taken a moment away from man hating Mandingo fantasies to slut shame a woman who dares to room a zoom zoom and a boom boom.

That's the part that makes me come in here and wharrgarble :(

/and use emoticons, apparently


Well, you requested serious wharrgarbl. ;)
 
2013-08-27 02:30:29 PM  

A. Snatchfold: KierzanDax: styckx: I'm not reading any of that.. Cliff notes?

1) Miley is racist and continues the portrayal of black women as the "Jezebel" stereotype.

2) Miley thinks that the "urban" culture is representative of the entirety of black culture.

3) White people be making money off black culture, and that's bad.

I guess only Jay-Z and Kayne are allowed to exploit black culture and women.

And WTF is ratchet?

From what I understood, the author had no problem with white people like Macklemore, Robin Thicke, Justin Timberlake etc, because they're authentic. But she had a problem with someone from Miley's background trying to get street cred by making a 180 in her theatrical presentation in an attempt to emulate what she thinks is 'black culture'. It's all a manufactured stunt designed to distance herself from her Disney roots, and the poor girl doesn't realize how silly she comes off.


What? her roots go way back. she was a chicken thief as a kid.
 
2013-08-27 02:38:22 PM  
Wait, is she saying black people shouldn't be background dancers/singers, because that makes them "props"?
 
2013-08-27 02:55:22 PM  
Vapid coont seeks to remain relevant. Film at 11:00.
 
2013-08-27 02:55:26 PM  

DeepDownHounds: Man, talk about GRASPING AT STRAWS. That's some paranoid shiat. Was this woman on acid when she saw the VMA's? Because she is reading things into it that simply weren't there.

/Proud BLACK Woman


There's a lot of grasping at straws.  I mean, black men take it personally when someone pulls their purse closer or locks their car door when a person sees them.  Problem is, a lot of us white people do that no matter what race or sex the other person is, because this is a dangerous world & you should trust no-one.

No offense, but you ain't all that.  So don't take it personally.  I was stunned when Obama said that thing about people locking their car doors before he became famous.  He lived in a dangerous city & he DIDNT' lock his doors when his babies were in the car with him?????
 
2013-08-27 02:57:35 PM  

Mugato: Wow, all Miley all the time. I suddenly miss when fark was obsessed with Ben Affleck as Batman.


I remember when Taylor Swift was Fark's sweetheart.
 
2013-08-27 02:58:23 PM  
I just thought it was bad dancing. Did I miss something or does Gawker Media still suck and Fark should go f*ck itself for continuing to link to them?
 
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