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2013-08-27 08:16:10 AM
Until we have a Mexican president in the mix, this is still racist.  Maybe throw in an Asian prime minister too.
 
2013-08-27 08:46:31 AM

I_C_Weener: Until we have a Mexican president in the mix, this is still racist.  Maybe throw in an Asian prime minister too.


I don't see it as racist.  Unless the clown was doing stereotypical black things, they are making fun of the president, who happens to be black.

I think they may be sensitive to the race issue, which is why they added the other presidents.  Of course, that may just be a fig leaf.
 
2013-08-27 09:05:29 AM

I_C_Weener: Until we have a Mexican president in the mix, this is still racist.  Maybe throw in an Asian prime minister too.


Here here.  How bout an eskimo clown too?
 
2013-08-27 09:17:02 AM
Someone's really trying to make a point.  I have no idea what that point is, but the effort is notable.
 
2013-08-27 09:23:09 AM

I_C_Weener: Until we have a Mexican president in the mix, this is still racist.  Maybe throw in an Asian prime minister too.


How is it racist? There's a mask for every President going back to at least Nixon. But because Obama's black his mask is racist? Don't get me wrnog, there's plenty of racism surrounding Obama but I don't see it here.
 
2013-08-27 09:24:38 AM
The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck
 
2013-08-27 09:28:09 AM
I hope hill dog doesn't get elected or all these poor clowns will be labelled sexists
 
2013-08-27 09:37:42 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck


I haven't really followed this closely but the White House commented on it?  I thought it was the media and NAACP that make all the ruckus.
 
2013-08-27 09:46:36 AM
Is he wearing black face? Any examples of racial jokes?

Oh, it's just an Obama mask and he's making fun of a President. Why that's as American as apple pie.
 
2013-08-27 09:48:49 AM
Racism exists. It's just not around EVERY corner.
 
2013-08-27 09:49:39 AM
Other, subby?  When did Barack Obama become an ex-president?
 
2013-08-27 09:50:51 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck


Do you have a link to the White House response regarding this occurrence?
 
2013-08-27 09:53:21 AM

clkeagle: Other, subby?  When did Barack Obama become an ex-president?


Grammar, it is not for everyone.
 
2013-08-27 09:53:57 AM
The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

just stop

stop posting
 
2013-08-27 09:55:43 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck


They made such a huge deal about it by not saying a single word.

Further proof that no matter what he says, does, doesn't say, or doesn't do, "independents" will blame him. Bush derangement syndrome ain't got nothing on Obama derangement syndrome.
 
2013-08-27 09:56:38 AM

EvilEgg: Unless the clown was doing stereotypical black things


IIRC the guy was flapping the lips on his mask up and down. That, and the announcer whipping up the crowd with "wanna see Obama get trampled by a bull?" Sounds pretty racist to me. Not that racists at a goddamn rodeo is exactly news.
 
2013-08-27 09:57:16 AM
This guy's been adopted by the tea party hospitality committee, huh?  Hope he doesn't blow all of his first few paychecks on drugs and alcohol, they're likely to dump him the minute the novelty wears off and that was like three weeks ago.
 
2013-08-27 09:58:06 AM

Diogenes: I haven't really followed this closely but the White House commented on it?


he's lying of course
 
2013-08-27 09:58:26 AM
I wonder which one the announcer will ask the audience they want to see trampled by a bull?
 
2013-08-27 09:58:55 AM
Good for him, the clown.  He got railroaded out of MO.  His act was no more racist than when the mask was a different president.
 
2013-08-27 10:01:04 AM
Somebody having fun at the president's expense? Big deal. Who cares? Didn't see the video and I'd guess it was probably pretty tasteless, but hey, it's a free country.

That being said, I'd like to know what these chuckleheads were saying about the Dixie Chicks when they exercised their right to free speech?
 
2013-08-27 10:02:15 AM
The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


By all means please keep making stuff up.  It's not like we can fact check you effortlessly and then begin mocking your stupidity.

White House: President Has No Reaction To Rodeo Clown Wearing Obama Mask


 
2013-08-27 10:02:27 AM
That's raci... Actually, no, I have no problem with this.

Fun fact:  Cowboys were mostly black.
 
2013-08-27 10:02:48 AM
How will an Obama clown be received in the Lone Star State?

I can only imagine.

/Will he still have that broom up his butt?
 
2013-08-27 10:02:48 AM
Doing it with other Presidents is fine. Doing it with one seems creepily stupid. Politicizing everything and anything because of your dumb Tea 'tard shiat is still stupid though.
 
2013-08-27 10:03:28 AM

Tyee: Good for him, the clown. He got railroaded out of MO. His act was no more racist than when the mask was a different president.


Read this and then tell us that racism had nothing to do with it:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/12/211324453/rodeo-clown -i n-obama-mask-sparks-outrage-apologies
 
2013-08-27 10:06:12 AM

dinch: Somebody having fun at the president's expense? Big deal. Who cares? Didn't see the video and I'd guess it was probably pretty tasteless, but hey, it's a free country.

That being said, I'd like to know what these chuckleheads were saying about the Dixie Chicks when they exercised their right to free speech?


Traditionally things like this play out and end up with Texas asking for funds to bail them out of something and being turned down with a smile.
 
2013-08-27 10:06:20 AM

clkeagle: Other, subby?  When did Barack Obama become an ex-president?


When has Barack Obama been Presidential?
 
2013-08-27 10:07:34 AM

EvilEgg: I don't see it as racist


It wasn't racist in the first place. What it was was pathetic and embarassing to hear a crowd of what, hundreds, chanting about how they'd like to see the President murdered by bulls.
 
2013-08-27 10:07:54 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck


The White House made this a big deal?
 
2013-08-27 10:08:31 AM

s1ugg0: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


By all means please keep making stuff up.  It's not like we can fact check you effortlessly and then begin mocking your stupidity.

White House: President Has No Reaction To Rodeo Clown Wearing Obama Mask


Don't you see?  That PROVES they're angry and TERRIFIED of this strong American patriot and furthermore also,
 
2013-08-27 10:08:44 AM
They still have Rodeos? What's the point?
 
2013-08-27 10:09:13 AM
Are you libs happy now? Oh wait, you guys are never happy....
 
2013-08-27 10:09:14 AM
Just don't joke about one of the President's getting killed this time and nobody will give a shiat.
 
2013-08-27 10:09:15 AM

TalenLee: EvilEgg: I don't see it as racist

It wasn't racist in the first place. What it was was pathetic and embarassing to hear a crowd of what, hundreds, chanting about how they'd like to see the President murdered by bulls.


I suppose I should really clarify. It probably wasn't specifically a racist act.
 
2013-08-27 10:11:40 AM

usernameguy: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck

They made such a huge deal about it by not saying a single word.

Further proof that no matter what he says, does, doesn't say, or doesn't do, "independents" will blame him. Bush derangement syndrome ain't got nothing on Obama derangement syndrome.


There's no derangement like Conservative derangement.
 
2013-08-27 10:13:04 AM
These hicks take great pleasure in their belief that they are offending leftist elitist liebrals from the north and the west coast. What harm does it do, imagine how good you would make all those hillbilly white trash feel if you went and picketed the obama clown rodeo.
 
2013-08-27 10:16:31 AM

Headso: These hicks take great pleasure in their belief that they are offending leftist elitist liebrals from the north and the west coast. What harm does it do, imagine how good you would make all those hillbilly white trash feel if you went and picketed the obama clown rodeo.


That's true, and it's the reason that right-wing blogs were crowing about "liberal outrage" over a clown when there wasn't any.

Sorry, hicks. People calling you douchebags isn't "outrage".
 
2013-08-27 10:16:50 AM
Animals are terribly abused at rodeos. Will someone please think of the animals.
 
2013-08-27 10:18:16 AM

Diogenes: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck

I haven't really followed this closely but the White House commented on it?  I thought it was the media and NAACP that make all the ruckus.


Did they even make much of a ruckus? The place I've heard about this the most is from conservative acquaintances linking to conservative blogs angry that some people might have a problem when you suggest running over the President with a bull.
 
2013-08-27 10:22:17 AM

TalenLee: TalenLee: EvilEgg: I don't see it as racist

It wasn't racist in the first place. What it was was pathetic and embarassing to hear a crowd of what, hundreds, chanting about how they'd like to see the President murdered by bulls.

I suppose I should really clarify. It probably wasn't specifically a racist act.


Yeah, it was more a deranged hatred of all politicians who have a D next to their name.
 
2013-08-27 10:26:38 AM
"Obama will be joined at the event by three other presidents. "

Nixon, Reagan, and Bush II I'm sure.
 
2013-08-27 10:26:39 AM
FTFA:  Mesquite Arena general manager Steve Gander told Unfair Park via email that the rodeo is not simply trying to troll liberals, who have an innate and universal hatred of rodeos.

You keep telling yourself that, Jethro. You probably don't think we're armed either.

Jeez, conservatives are pussies.
 
Bf+
2013-08-27 10:30:53 AM
I hear Obama's gunna take way our rodeos.
 
2013-08-27 10:42:15 AM

Wooly Bully: Tyee: Good for him, the clown. He got railroaded out of MO. His act was no more racist than when the mask was a different president.

Read this and then tell us that racism had nothing to do with it:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/12/211324453/rodeo-clown -i n-obama-mask-sparks-outrage-apologies


I see a lot of people who viewed it as racist but none of what they were describing was really overtly racist. He was a clown with an Obama mask. Acting clownish is his job, he's supposed to act stupid and make people laugh. It's also not surprising that people wanted to see him get hurt, that's sort of what people always want to see happen. It's like crowds enjoying watching a wreck in nascar, that possibility of danger is what makes it exciting. If they really have done this with president's masks for years then I just don't see the big deal.
 
2013-08-27 10:42:50 AM

EvilEgg: I_C_Weener: Until we have a Mexican president in the mix, this is still racist.  Maybe throw in an Asian prime minister too.

I don't see it as racist.  Unless the clown was doing stereotypical black things, they are making fun of the president, who happens to be black.

I think they may be sensitive to the race issue, which is why they added the other presidents.  Of course, that may just be a fig leaf.


Stereotypical, like flapping his lips?
 
2013-08-27 10:46:16 AM
It's almost as if these people are incapable of learning.  And since when has it been a "thing" to have a president as a rodeo clown?
 
2013-08-27 10:46:23 AM

TalenLee: TalenLee: EvilEgg: I don't see it as racist

It wasn't racist in the first place. What it was was pathetic and embarassing to hear a crowd of what, hundreds, chanting about how they'd like to see the President murdered by bulls.

I suppose I should really clarify. It probably wasn't specifically a racist act.


Yeah. The whole "let's flap his lips!" was surely something that would be done to a white president.
 
2013-08-27 10:48:28 AM

Diogenes: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck

I haven't really followed this closely but the White House commented on it?  I thought it was the media and NAACP that make all the ruckus.


Mostly it was conservative blogs and pundits,
 
2013-08-27 10:58:43 AM

Diogenes: I haven't really followed this closely but the White House commented on it? I thought it was the media and NAACP that make all the ruckus.




"I can tell you as a native Missourian, it was certainly not one of the finer moments for our state, and not the way I like to see our state depicted in the news."

-White House spokesman Josh Earnest

Since I like you I won't ask for a research fee.

Mr. Earnest could have just played it off and went on to the next question but he just couldn't. He showed that it affected him.
 
2013-08-27 11:02:09 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Diogenes: I haven't really followed this closely but the White House commented on it? I thought it was the media and NAACP that make all the ruckus.



"I can tell you as a native Missourian, it was certainly not one of the finer moments for our state, and not the way I like to see our state depicted in the news."

-White House spokesman Josh Earnest

Since I like you I won't ask for a research fee.

Mr. Earnest could have just played it off and went on to the next question but he just couldn't. He showed that it affected him.


Wow his outrage burns with the heat of a billion suns. So responding to a question is "making a ruckus" now?
 
2013-08-27 11:02:36 AM
Stay classy, Texas!

Oh, and Mesquite is a toilet. Can't say I'm surprised.
 
2013-08-27 11:03:46 AM

EvilEgg: I don't see it as racist. Unless the clown was doing stereotypical black things

...

...like having a tail
blogs.riverfronttimes.com
 
2013-08-27 11:03:58 AM

plewis: And since when has it been a "thing" to have a president as a rodeo clown?


I'm of the mindset that Americans have a duty to make fun of the president regardless of party affiliation. Fox's "The Half Hour News Hour" was terrible for so many reasons, but among them was President Bush was off limits for mockery.

I don't go to rodeos. I think they're stupid and cruel. But I really can't be outraged by this. I haven't watched the video and I wouldn't be surprised if people in the audience who truly hate Obama made things uncomfortable by getting too into it, but it seems like the sort of thing that's par for the course. I imagine it's probably easy fodder to rile up a crowd to don the mask of any famous person.

If I were a rodeo clown and wanted to get a big crowd reaction in a rodeo this coming weekend, I'd probably put on a Miley Cyrus mask for my shtick. Nothing against Miley, but she's a popular target for mockery in pop culture right now so it'd be an easy way to win the crowd over.
 
2013-08-27 11:04:33 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: I_C_Weener: Until we have a Mexican president in the mix, this is still racist.  Maybe throw in an Asian prime minister too.

Here here.  How bout an eskimo clown too?


And I reply.... Victor Zulu!
 
2013-08-27 11:06:07 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


The White House never commented on it.
 
2013-08-27 11:08:06 AM
Conservatives who defend this clown are idiots at best and racist sycophants at worst? Really, you're going to pretend that you didn't know the big lip joke was a racist caricature? And really, there are many more ways to mock Obama than going for that. Take some hints from the WWE for making fun of political figures - they do it to everyone, not just their "enemies".
 
2013-08-27 11:11:04 AM

jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.


Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.
 
2013-08-27 11:11:52 AM
I'd just like to go on record and state that I hate clowns.  All clowns.  *shudder*
 
2013-08-27 11:13:53 AM
The thought of some cowboy yahoo mocking about our President....errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

xroads.virginia.edu

Lord, the money we do spend on Government and it's not one bit better than the government we got for one-third the money twenty years ago.
 
2013-08-27 11:14:29 AM

LectertheChef: What about us Fark Socialists? I for one never got any instructions from Dear Leader, and I'm starting to feel a little left out. And let's not forget the poor Fark Anarchocapitalists, and the endangered Fark National Syndicalists, who is giving them their orders? And damnit, won't someone think of the Fark Toryists?


You were supposed to get your orders on your Obamaphone.  Didn't you get an Obamaphone?  He sent them out to all of his true believers....oh wait, never mind.
 
2013-08-27 11:19:12 AM
Here is an obvious racist portraying an Hispanic, preparing to physically assault a black antagonist.

This is a blatant attempt to fan the flames of racial antagonism ignited by the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin tragedy.

i37.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-27 11:20:25 AM

ol_rooter: Wooly Bully: EvilEgg: 

"wanna see Obama get trampled by a bull?" Sounds pretty racist to me.

Show me how that's a racist statement. Difficulty: keep the straw in the barn, and no connecting the dots.


It's not.  It's simply in very poor taste, especially at a publicly-funded, non-political family event.
 
2013-08-27 11:20:59 AM

JAGChem82: Conservatives who defend this clown are idiots at best and racist sycophants at worst? Really, you're going to pretend that you didn't know the big lip joke was a racist caricature?


Serious question, was it a racist joke? NPR described it as "lip bobbling," which sounds to me like the popular Three Stooges/Bugs Bunny shtick.

I tried to find an animated gif of it for an example but my Google fu is weak.
 
2013-08-27 11:22:16 AM
deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com

'Well, those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.'
 
2013-08-27 11:27:36 AM

Fart_Machine: Wow his outrage burns with the heat of a billion suns. So responding to a question is "making a ruckus" now?


There were two chances to "kip this in the bud" he missed one of the chances right there. Did he pull a full on jerk and slobber over the deal? No. But a press secretary would never do that. He could have treated it just any of the scandals that he gets questions about. "We reviewed it and we dont think it's worth commenting on". boom done

The other chance was when it first started the President could have given the same answer. I don't think it was worth wasting the time of the President of the United States time on but since his press secretary couldn't keep his month shut the Prez needed to step in.
 
2013-08-27 11:31:49 AM

Fart_Machine: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Diogenes: I haven't really followed this closely but the White House commented on it? I thought it was the media and NAACP that make all the ruckus.

"I can tell you as a native Missourian, it was certainly not one of the finer moments for our state, and not the way I like to see our state depicted in the news."

-White House spokesman Josh Earnest

Since I like you I won't ask for a research fee.

Mr. Earnest could have just played it off and went on to the next question but he just couldn't. He showed that it affected him.

Wow his outrage burns with the heat of a billion suns. So responding to a question is "making a ruckus" now?


While that is a pretty tame statement, he really should have let that one go.  Not every incident of dumfarkery requires a response.

And while there is a difference between having a post and expressing a personal opinion, and making an official statement on behalf of the office, he should have been wise enough to know that most people will not acknowledge the difference.
 
2013-08-27 11:38:22 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Fart_Machine: Wow his outrage burns with the heat of a billion suns. So responding to a question is "making a ruckus" now?

There were two chances to "kip this in the bud" he missed one of the chances right there. Did he pull a full on jerk and slobber over the deal? No. But a press secretary would never do that. He could have treated it just any of the scandals that he gets questions about. "We reviewed it and we dont think it's worth commenting on". boom done

The other chance was when it first started the President could have given the same answer. I don't think it was worth wasting the time of the President of the United States time on but since his press secretary couldn't keep his month shut the Prez needed to step in.


So by this guy answering a question about how it personally (which would relate to him alone) embarrassed his state (which lets face it, it did) Obama is making a "big deal" about it.

It's a good thing he didn't say he disliked Brussels sprouts otherwise you would be accusing the White House of hating agriculture.
 
2013-08-27 11:40:42 AM

Diogenes: Fart_Machine: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Diogenes: I haven't really followed this closely but the White House commented on it? I thought it was the media and NAACP that make all the ruckus.

"I can tell you as a native Missourian, it was certainly not one of the finer moments for our state, and not the way I like to see our state depicted in the news."

-White House spokesman Josh Earnest

Since I like you I won't ask for a research fee.

Mr. Earnest could have just played it off and went on to the next question but he just couldn't. He showed that it affected him.

Wow his outrage burns with the heat of a billion suns. So responding to a question is "making a ruckus" now?

While that is a pretty tame statement, he really should have let that one go.  Not every incident of dumfarkery requires a response.

And while there is a difference between having a post and expressing a personal opinion, and making an official statement on behalf of the office, he should have been wise enough to know that most people will not acknowledge the difference.


I'm pretty sure no matter what he said the hacks were going to accuse the White House of being outraged even though the bulk of this "story" is fueled by pundits and blogs.
 
2013-08-27 11:41:32 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The other chance was when it first started the President could have given the same answer. I don't think it was worth wasting the time of the President of the United States time on but since his press secretary couldn't keep his month shut the Prez needed to step in.


Tom Dempsey's and Sabastian Janokowski's love child couldn't even keep up with you.
 
2013-08-27 11:47:42 AM
www.berkshirefinearts.com

leave rodeo trolling to the professionals
 
2013-08-27 11:49:16 AM
wasting the time of the President of the United States time

seriously

farking give it up holy shiat

admit that you are wrong, or lying in order to further some kind of agenda
 
2013-08-27 11:54:26 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


The Stealth Hippopotamus: Fart_Machine: Wow his outrage burns with the heat of a billion suns. So responding to a question is "making a ruckus" now?

There were two chances to "kip this in the bud" he missed one of the chances right there. Did he pull a full on jerk and slobber over the deal? No. But a press secretary would never do that. He could have treated it just any of the scandals that he gets questions about. "We reviewed it and we dont think it's worth commenting on". boom done

The other chance was when it first started the President could have given the same answer. I don't think it was worth wasting the time of the President of the United States time on but since his press secretary couldn't keep his month shut the Prez needed to step in.


Oh the horrah....

Why did Fartbama have to go nukular on the poor racist clown?  Why's everybody gotta be so PC that we can't be racists anymore?
 
2013-08-27 11:54:37 AM
 
2013-08-27 11:57:30 AM

plewis: It's almost as if these people are incapable of learning.  And since when has it been a "thing" to have a president as a rodeo clown?


cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2013-08-27 12:02:09 PM

ol_rooter: Wooly Bully: EvilEgg: 

"wanna see Obama get trampled by a bull?" Sounds pretty racist to me.

Show me how that's a racist statement. Difficulty: keep the straw in the barn, and no connecting the dots.


If in order to make your "point" you have to deliberately omit the part where I referred to the lip-flapping and said that combining that with the "trample Obama" sounded racist to me, you don't have one.

It's funny how all the posters saying "I don't see any racism"  ignore the lip-flapping part. And by funny, I mean blatantly dishonest.
 
2013-08-27 12:04:14 PM
I think I'll just stay out of this thread.  Too much dumb even for Fark.
 
2013-08-27 12:05:12 PM

Fart_Machine: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Fart_Machine: Wow his outrage burns with the heat of a billion suns. So responding to a question is "making a ruckus" now?

There were two chances to "kip this in the bud" he missed one of the chances right there. Did he pull a full on jerk and slobber over the deal? No. But a press secretary would never do that. He could have treated it just any of the scandals that he gets questions about. "We reviewed it and we dont think it's worth commenting on". boom done

The other chance was when it first started the President could have given the same answer. I don't think it was worth wasting the time of the President of the United States time on but since his press secretary couldn't keep his month shut the Prez needed to step in.

So by this guy answering a question about how it personally (which would relate to him alone) embarrassed his state (which lets face it, it did) Obama is making a "big deal" about it.

It's a good thing he didn't say he disliked Brussels sprouts otherwise you would be accusing the White House of hating agriculture.


And probably start a war with Australia.
 
2013-08-27 12:07:42 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Fart_Machine: Wow his outrage burns with the heat of a billion suns. So responding to a question is "making a ruckus" now?

There were two chances to "kip this in the bud" he missed one of the chances right there. Did he pull a full on jerk and slobber over the deal? No. But a press secretary would never do that. He could have treated it just any of the scandals that he gets questions about. "We reviewed it and we dont think it's worth commenting on". boom done

The other chance was when it first started the President could have given the same answer. I don't think it was worth wasting the time of the President of the United States time on but since his press secretary couldn't keep his month shut the Prez needed to step in.


Dude.  Stop digging.  Believe me, you look sufficiently foolish already.
 
2013-08-27 12:09:34 PM

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so?
 
2013-08-27 12:18:37 PM

CorporatePerson: JAGChem82: Conservatives who defend this clown are idiots at best and racist sycophants at worst? Really, you're going to pretend that you didn't know the big lip joke was a racist caricature?

Serious question, was it a racist joke? NPR described it as "lip bobbling," which sounds to me like the popular Three Stooges/Bugs Bunny shtick.

I tried to find an animated gif of it for an example but my Google fu is weak.


The big lip caricature of black people was a fairly odious one in the 1920/30s, although it was well before that. Take a look at some comics of black people in that era, and you'll probably see it. It was in Bugs Bunny cartoons, but 1) they had to get it from somewhere and 2) a lot of BB cartoons did have racist caricatures.

Essentially, it was a cheap way to make fun of Obama being a black guy than making fun of Obama as the president, which you can do. Like I said before a WWE wrestler body slamming an Obama lookalike - politically charged, but not racist.
 
2013-08-27 12:19:35 PM

Fart_Machine: So by this guy answering a question about how it personally (which would relate to him alone) embarrassed his state (which lets face it, it did) Obama is making a "big deal" about it.


Maybe when you are standing behind the podium at the White House press room you should keep your personal options to yourself? Maybe?

When his press secretary couldn't keep his mouth shut then and only then did the President need to comment. Until that moment it was beneath the POTUS to give it a moment of his time.

Fart_Machine: I'm pretty sure no matter what he said the hacks were going to accuse the White House of being outraged even though the bulk of this "story" is fueled by pundits and blogs


That's exactly right. They shouldn't have said anything at all. One single moment of disciple and this would have been over.

And saying the White House or the President himself is outraged over this is overblown. I never said outraged. bothered, distracted, majoring in minors. Really an off handed joke is really all this ever rated. Something about the bull being scared of Obama or maybe a financial joke about Obama and a bull market?
 
2013-08-27 12:34:30 PM
Damn, some people love getting outraged over the thought that somebody out there, some vague group of people (always liberals) are out there being PC.

You fools, this was just done to distract you from the war on Christmas!
 
2013-08-27 12:40:28 PM

jaytkay: EvilEgg: I don't see it as racist. Unless the clown was doing stereotypical black things...

...like having a tail
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Are tails common in the African American community?  Or is this some Pinochio Jack Ass comment by the clown in question?
 
2013-08-27 12:49:29 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Maybe when you are standing behind the podium at the White House press room you should keep your personal options to yourself? Maybe?

When his press secretary couldn't keep his mouth shut then and only then did the President need to comment. Until that moment it was beneath the POTUS to give it a moment of his time.


How far are you going to move those White House made a "big deal" goalposts?

The Stealth Hippopotamus: That's exactly right. They shouldn't have said anything at all. One single moment of disciple and this would have been over.


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The Stealth Hippopotamus: I never said outraged. bothered, distracted, majoring in minors.


No, you said the White House made a "big deal" when it was simply an off-hand remark by a spokesman who happened to be a native of the state when asked by a reporter.
 
2013-08-27 12:52:03 PM
The Stealth Hippopotamus:
That's exactly right. They shouldn't have said anything at all. One single moment of discipl(ine) and this would have been over.

Lol, no.  Shouldn't have said anything, but this was going to get used in this manner no matter What happened.  Because the important thing is that the leftist pundits and political commenters get to cry racism, and the rightist pundits and political commenters get to call the President divisive and hiding behind the race card.

The outrage is all that matters, because outrage sells stuff Almost as well as sex does.
 
2013-08-27 01:07:03 PM

JAGChem82: The big lip caricature of black people was a fairly odious one in the 1920/30s, although it was well before that. Take a look at some comics of black people in that era, and you'll probably see it.


I'm well aware of that, but the articles I've read didn't make it clear that the joke was "Look at black people and their big lips!" I got the impression that "lip bobbling" was what Bugs Bunny used to do to Elmer Fudd, rubbing his index finger up and down his lips making the "beebeeebeebee" sound before planting a big kiss on his face, which would seem like a textbook clowning move that isn't necessarily racist.
 
2013-08-27 01:10:00 PM
Remember when merely saying that you were disappointed in the POTUS got you death threats?

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2013-08-27 01:17:41 PM

TV's Vinnie: Remember when merely saying that you were disappointed in the POTUS got you death threats?

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http://www.kctv5.com/story/23254291/controversial-rodeo-clown-speaks -o ut-after-death-threats

People need to simmer down. Both sides.
 
2013-08-27 01:21:42 PM

Fart_Machine: How far are you going to move those White House made a "big deal" goalposts?


I haven't moved the goal posts an inch. The White House couldn't have ended this before it every began. They didn't. They fueled this, now the guy is make a couple of bucks off it. Good for him. Next week someone in the White House will be counting it as a job they created.

Fart_Machine: No, you said the White House made a "big deal" when it was simply an off-hand remark by a spokesman who happened to be a native of the state when asked by a reporter.


That was not an offhanded comment. Guy looks like he is reading it. He can even face the report when he says it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwitTJJLuc8
 
2013-08-27 01:22:10 PM

jonas opines: Lol, no. Shouldn't have said anything, but this was going to get used in this manner no matter What happened. Because the important thing is that the leftist pundits and political commenters get to cry racism, and the rightist pundits and political commenters get to call the President divisive and hiding behind the race card.

The outrage is all that matters, because outrage sells stuff Almost as well as sex does.


Some of the people who consider this racist are "left", some aren't. Are you seriously suggesting that the self-described "good ol'boy" who said the atmosphere there was "like a klan rally" was a "leftist"? Really?

And the only people who keep using the term outrage are the right-wing bloggers who beat this goddamn story like a dead horse, claiming that "the left" is "outraged". But the truth of the matter is that a lot of us leftists never would have even heard about this stupid clown if those right-wingers hadn't plastered him all over their crappy blogs.
 
2013-08-27 01:25:54 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I haven't moved the goal posts an inch. The White House couldn't have ended this before it every began. They didn't. They fueled this, now the guy is make a couple of bucks off it. Good for him. Next week someone in the White House will be counting it as a job they created.


You're reaching more than this guy.

christianchat.com

The Stealth Hippopotamus: That was not an offhanded comment. Guy looks like he is reading it. He can even face the report when he says it.


static.neatorama.com
 
2013-08-27 01:34:33 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Diogenes: I haven't really followed this closely but the White House commented on it? I thought it was the media and NAACP that make all the ruckus.

"I can tell you as a native Missourian, it was certainly not one of the finer moments for our state, and not the way I like to see our state depicted in the news."

-White House spokesman Josh Earnest

Since I like you I won't ask for a research fee.

Mr. Earnest could have just played it off and went on to the next question but he just couldn't. He showed that it affected him.


I notice you continually leave off the part where Mr. Earnest said Obama hadn't commented on it, and stressed that the comments made by Earnest were his personal feelings on the matter, not official stance. I guess if it doesn't fit the narrative, leave it out?


That being said, I chalk this one up to more of "He's a Demoncrat!" than "He's blah."
 
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2013-08-27 01:36:12 PM

phenn: TV's Vinnie: Remember when merely saying that you were disappointed in the POTUS got you death threats?

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http://www.kctv5.com/story/23254291/controversial-rodeo-clown-speaks -o ut-after-death-threats

People need to simmer down. Both sides.



Heh.  From the link:
"When asked if he was a Democrat or a Republican, Gessling simply replied, 'I am a rodeo clown.'"
Man, are they embarrassed to call themselves Republicans.
Me?  No, I'm an independent rodeo clown.
 
2013-08-27 01:42:56 PM

EvilEgg: Of course, that may just be a fig leaf.


Ya think?
 
2013-08-27 01:46:11 PM

grumpfuff: I notice you continually leave off the part where Mr. Earnest said Obama hadn't commented on it, and stressed that the comments made by Earnest were his personal feelings on the matter, not official stance. I guess if it doesn't fit the narrative, leave it out?


But you don't understand.  Because Obama didn't personally lambaste Mr. Earnest for stating his own opinion when asked by a reporter and call a special press conference to completely distance himself from the question he's making a Big Deal over it.  A Big Deal.
 
2013-08-27 01:46:31 PM

Bf+: phenn: TV's Vinnie: Remember when merely saying that you were disappointed in the POTUS got you death threats?

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http://www.kctv5.com/story/23254291/controversial-rodeo-clown-speaks -o ut-after-death-threats

People need to simmer down. Both sides.


Heh.  From the link:
"When asked if he was a Democrat or a Republican, Gessling simply replied, 'I am a rodeo clown.'"
Man, are they embarrassed to call themselves Republicans.
Me?  No, I'm an independent rodeo clown.


Maybe he thought he was avoiding a 'gotcha' question.  ;-)
 
2013-08-27 01:56:19 PM

ol_rooter: That there, hon, is a statement from the White House. Who's running the White House? The President. Who's the President, sweetie?


ol_rooter: White House spokesman Josh Earnest says he had no reaction from Obama.


That right there, Sugartits, is the official White House Statement.  You even quoted it, yourself.

I can tell you as a native Missourian, it was certainly not one of the finer moments for our state, and not the way I like to see our state depicted in the news.

And that right there, Snookie-wookums, is one man giving his personal opinion, even being so kind as to refer to himself in the First Person, twice, (and in the Second Person twice) in case it wasn't clear for whom he was speaking.  "Our state".  Where's Obama from again, Honeybunch?*

And let's remember Stealth's original claim, that it was the White House that "made it a big deal".

How could the question have even been asked, if it was this statement that started the "big deal"?

Steath's a lying liar, that's a given.

You don't have to choose to enable that.

/*Trick question.  Everybody knows it's "Kenya".
 
2013-08-27 02:13:15 PM

grumpfuff: I notice you continually leave off the part where Mr. Earnest said Obama hadn't commented on it, and stressed that the comments made by Earnest were his personal feelings on the matter, not official stance. I guess if it doesn't fit the narrative, leave it out?


That being said, I chalk this one up to more of "He's a Demoncrat!" than "He's blah."


He is the White House Press Secretary. He is attached to the White House staff. That is why I said White House. WHITE HOUSE. I know some people use the terms President and White House interchangeably but that is wrong.

Now, if I said that the POTUS said it I would be wrong.

Deucednuisance: Steath's a lying liar, that's a given.


One example of me lying please.
 
2013-08-27 02:15:30 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: grumpfuff: I notice you continually leave off the part where Mr. Earnest said Obama hadn't commented on it, and stressed that the comments made by Earnest were his personal feelings on the matter, not official stance. I guess if it doesn't fit the narrative, leave it out?


That being said, I chalk this one up to more of "He's a Demoncrat!" than "He's blah."

He is the White House Press Secretary. He is attached to the White House staff. That is why I said White House. WHITE HOUSE. I know some people use the terms President and White House interchangeably but that is wrong.

Now, if I said that the POTUS said it I would be wrong.

Deucednuisance: Steath's a lying liar, that's a given.

One example of me lying please.


Well if that's your best defense, I feel obligated to inform you that, as an inanimate object, the White House is actually incapable of having or expressing feelings due to it being an inanimate object.
 
2013-08-27 02:27:46 PM

grumpfuff: Well if that's your best defense, I feel obligated to inform you that, as an inanimate object, the White House is actually incapable of having or expressing feelings due to it being an inanimate object.


Gonna have to side with Stealth on this one; the White House (ie the President) has always been held accountable for things anyone says.  A perfect example for the "but, but Bush" crowd is when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act.
 
2013-08-27 02:32:53 PM

born_yesterday: grumpfuff: Well if that's your best defense, I feel obligated to inform you that, as an inanimate object, the White House is actually incapable of having or expressing feelings due to it being an inanimate object.

Gonna have to side with Stealth on this one; the White House (ie the President) has always been held accountable for things anyone says.  A perfect example for the "but, but Bush" crowd is when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act.


Even though Earnest specifically said they were his personal feelings, he's still speaking on behalf of the President? Gonna have to disagree with you there.

The "But, but Bush" is just a silly non-sequitor, though the bolded part amuses me. Assuming you meant "by the left."
 
2013-08-27 02:36:30 PM

born_yesterday: when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act


Well, at least your login's accurate.
 
2013-08-27 02:36:32 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: He [Josh Earnest] is the White House Press Secretary.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: One example of me lying please.


There you go, chucklefark.
 
2013-08-27 02:41:17 PM

udhq: The Stealth Hippopotamus: He [Josh Earnest] is the White House Press Secretary.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: One example of me lying please.

There you go, chucklefark.


Well I farked that up.

I was wrong and as fark as taught me wrong equals lying.


got me on that one
 
2013-08-27 02:46:00 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: One example of me lying please.


My command, your wish is!

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


Ta-Da!

Let's apply just a little logic here, please?

If the White House Made it a "big deal" of it why was question asked in the first place?

How can this timeline co-exist with your claim being true?

Event happens - Aug 10

Story covered by MSM from the networks to the Christian Science Monitor to the farking Blaze - August 11

Clown banned for life, similar coverage - August 12

White House press conference which starts Big Deal - August 14

It was a Big Deal long before Mr. Earnest spoke for himself.  But you're doubling down.  Why, for heaven's sake?

And, according to the official transcript, you misquoted Mr. Earnest:

MR. EARNEST:  I have not talked to my colleagues in the White House about this, and I haven't heard about the President's reaction or if he had one.

I can tell you as a native Missourian it's certainly not one of the finer moments for our state, and not the way that I like to see our state mentioned in the news.


So that's two, right there.
 
2013-08-27 02:46:03 PM

phenn: plewis: It's almost as if these people are incapable of learning.  And since when has it been a "thing" to have a president as a rodeo clown?

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Why would someone wear a "Bush" mask in 1994?

GHW Bush was out of office. GW Bush hadn't been governor.
 
2013-08-27 02:46:50 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: udhq: The Stealth Hippopotamus: He [Josh Earnest] is the White House Press Secretary.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: One example of me lying please.

There you go, chucklefark.

Well I farked that up.

I was wrong and as fark as taught me wrong equals lying.


got me on that one


I'd agree with you on that. You were wrong, and you admitted it, so props for you in terms of that.

It doesn't change the fact that you're claiming Earnest is speaking on behalf of the President when he's not.
 
2013-08-27 02:47:07 PM

grumpfuff: born_yesterday: grumpfuff: Well if that's your best defense, I feel obligated to inform you that, as an inanimate object, the White House is actually incapable of having or expressing feelings due to it being an inanimate object.

Gonna have to side with Stealth on this one; the White House (ie the President) has always been held accountable for things anyone says.  A perfect example for the "but, but Bush" crowd is when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act.

Even though Earnest specifically said they were his personal feelings, he's still speaking on behalf of the President? Gonna have to disagree with you there.

The "But, but Bush" is just a silly non-sequitor, though the bolded part amuses me. Assuming you meant "by the left."


LOL I TROLL U!

No, not really, just being very dryly sarcastic.  If Obama had said anything, he would be wrong.  If any more of his staff had said something, it would be wrong.  If they had said nothing at all, it would have been criticized.  And everyone in the thread knows it.

Wooly Bully: born_yesterday: when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act

Well, at least your login's accurate.


LOL I TROLL U TOO!!!

/Again, not really.  Must be in a dry humor.
 
2013-08-27 02:49:40 PM

born_yesterday: grumpfuff: born_yesterday: grumpfuff: Well if that's your best defense, I feel obligated to inform you that, as an inanimate object, the White House is actually incapable of having or expressing feelings due to it being an inanimate object.

Gonna have to side with Stealth on this one; the White House (ie the President) has always been held accountable for things anyone says.  A perfect example for the "but, but Bush" crowd is when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act.

Even though Earnest specifically said they were his personal feelings, he's still speaking on behalf of the President? Gonna have to disagree with you there.

The "But, but Bush" is just a silly non-sequitor, though the bolded part amuses me. Assuming you meant "by the left."

LOL I TROLL U!

No, not really, just being very dryly sarcastic.  If Obama had said anything, he would be wrong.  If any more of his staff had said something, it would be wrong.  If they had said nothing at all, it would have been criticized.  And everyone in the thread knows it.


I really need to start farky-ing more people, and not just spur of the moment amusement ones. Poe's Law has been kicking my ass lately.
 
2013-08-27 02:54:02 PM

jaytkay: phenn: plewis: It's almost as if these people are incapable of learning.  And since when has it been a "thing" to have a president as a rodeo clown?

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Why would someone wear a "Bush" mask in 1994?

GHW Bush was out of office. GW Bush hadn't been governor.


I think whomever put that graphic together got his years mixed up? Don't know. Either way, both are pretty dumb.
 
2013-08-27 02:56:22 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know some people use the terms President and White House interchangeably but that is wrong.


The Stealth Hippopotamus: since his press secretary couldn't keep his month shut the Prez needed to step in.


So on one hand you say they're not interchangeable yet you believe Obama should have stepped in to correct the personal opinion of Mr. Earnest.  Seems legit.
 
2013-08-27 03:00:55 PM

grumpfuff: I'd agree with you on that. You were wrong, and you admitted it, so props for you in terms of that.

It doesn't change the fact that you're claiming Earnest is speaking on behalf of the President when he's not.


never ever said that. Made a point of not saying. repeated time and time again that he (The President) didn't say anything at all. I did however say that if Obama did say something he could have put out this fire while it was just a flicker. I stand by that.

I just farked up and got Jay Carney and Josh Earnest in my head. One is the actual Press Secretary and the other is the Principal Deputy Press Secretary. Both speck for the President for a living. But a mistake is a mistake or in this case a mistake is a lie. I can live with that.

However the Principal Deputy Press Secretary is still part of the White House staff. So everything else still works.
 
2013-08-27 03:03:57 PM

born_yesterday: Wooly Bully: born_yesterday: when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act

Well, at least your login's accurate.

LOL I TROLL U TOO!!!

/Again, not really. Must be in a dry humor.


Sh*t. My sarcasm meter was working earlier today.
 
2013-08-27 03:04:00 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: grumpfuff: I'd agree with you on that. You were wrong, and you admitted it, so props for you in terms of that.

It doesn't change the fact that you're claiming Earnest is speaking on behalf of the President when he's not.

never ever said that. Made a point of not saying. repeated time and time again that he (The President) didn't say anything at all. I did however say that if Obama did say something he could have put out this fire while it was just a flicker. I stand by that.

I just farked up and got Jay Carney and Josh Earnest in my head. One is the actual Press Secretary and the other is the Principal Deputy Press Secretary. Both speck for the President for a living. But a mistake is a mistake or in this case a mistake is a lie. I can live with that.

However the Principal Deputy Press Secretary is still part of the White House staff. So everything else still works.


Even when he explicitly says that what he is saying is his personal opinion, and not that of the President. So basically, anytime Carney or Earnest say anything, it's totes identical with what Obama says. Got it. Seems legit.
 
2013-08-27 03:06:29 PM
And while I'm on the subject of what made what a "big deal", actually reading the question, which is sourced again from the official transcript, is instructive:

Q    And I have just one more, Josh.  The Missouri chapter of the NAACP is apparently going to call on the DOJ and the Secret Service to investigate the rodeo clown who wore a mask of President Obama.  Is that something that the DOJ will investigate?  And what was the White House's reaction to that incident?

Apparently the NAACP finding the event to be a big enough deal as to request investigations from both the DOJ and Secret Service is no big deal, but one guy's statement of personal opinion?

Big Deal.

Dude, just give it up.  You're looking ridiculous at this point.
 
2013-08-27 03:07:36 PM

s1ugg0: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


By all means please keep making stuff up.  It's not like we can fact check you effortlessly and then begin mocking your stupidity.

White House: President Has No Reaction To Rodeo Clown Wearing Obama Mask


White House, MSNBC, whatever.  Same shiat, different name.  Why would the WH put itself out there when they can get the same results having its useful idiots get their hands dirty?
 
2013-08-27 03:09:33 PM
And you know that the few people saying the failure of Obama to speak made it a big deal would be saying that stooping to respond to such silliness would be granting it more importance than it deserves.

Because that would have been making it, you know, a Big Deal.
 
2013-08-27 03:12:16 PM

Garet Garrett: Why would the WH put itself out there when they can get the same results having its useful idiots get their hands dirty?


I feel so dirty doing this, but...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/11/rodeo-clown-dons-obama-ma sk -gets-chased-by-bull-crowd-goes-nuts-libs-want-heads-to-roll/

Ladies and Gentlemen, meet the latest useful idiot for Obama, Glenn Beck.
 
2013-08-27 03:15:00 PM

Fart_Machine: So on one hand you say they're not interchangeable yet you believe Obama should have stepped in to correct the personal opinion of Mr. Earnest. Seems legit.


His Principal Deputy Press Secretary? Yeah, I would have gone with "Yeah, I haven't been paying attention to that, however I did see what Mr. Earnest said, he should have gone with no comment and left it there"

That forum was not there to voice Mr. Earnest's opinions. He did his boss a disservice by opening his mouth. He added fuel to a fire that should have been laughed off.

How hard is that to understand? Is defending this President and this administration really that big of a knee jerk reaction? Is everything that comes out of that group of people handled so perfectly that someone cannot say that it could have been handed better?
 
2013-08-27 03:30:28 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Fart_Machine: So on one hand you say they're not interchangeable yet you believe Obama should have stepped in to correct the personal opinion of Mr. Earnest. Seems legit.

His Principal Deputy Press Secretary? Yeah, I would have gone with "Yeah, I haven't been paying attention to that, however I did see what Mr. Earnest said, he should have gone with no comment and left it there"

That forum was not there to voice Mr. Earnest's opinions. He did his boss a disservice by opening his mouth. He added fuel to a fire that should have been laughed off.

How hard is that to understand? Is defending this President and this administration really that big of a knee jerk reaction? Is everything that comes out of that group of people handled so perfectly that someone cannot say that it could have been handed better?


Yes the President coming out to specifically address a member of his staff's stated personal opinion wouldn't draw further attention to it whatsoever. So by Obama not making a public issue over this he's actually making a "big deal" about it.

This is what concern trolls actually believe.
 
2013-08-27 03:34:02 PM

Deucednuisance: Garet Garrett: Why would the WH put itself out there when they can get the same results having its useful idiots get their hands dirty?

I feel so dirty doing this, but...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/11/rodeo-clown-dons-obama-ma sk -gets-chased-by-bull-crowd-goes-nuts-libs-want-heads-to-roll/

Ladies and Gentlemen, meet the latest useful idiot for Obama, Glenn Beck.


Fox News made a big deal about it too. We're through the looking glass people.
 
2013-08-27 03:58:28 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: T

ol_rooter: usernameguy: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck

They made such a huge deal about it by not saying a single word.

Further proof that no matter what he says, does, doesn't say, or doesn't do, "independents" will blame him. Bush derangement syndrome ain't got nothing on Obama derangement syndrome.

When the main stream racebaiters start getting on Obama, saying he has the ability to steer tornadoes into white trash trailer parks, like they said Bush did with Katrina because he hates black people, you'll have a point. Until then, step away from the keyboard.


I don't remember that happening...ever. Seriously, provide one link to an article in the Mainstream that said Bush steered Katrina into New Orleans. No one, that I am aware of, blamed Bush for Katrina happening. They blamed him for the lousy disaster response. They blamed him for putting a horse judge in the main seat of the national disaster response team. Hell, even Kanye farking West (hardly a member of the mainstream) didn't even say that Bush hated black people. He said Bush didn't care about black people.

You might want to put down what you're drinking and back away from that keyboars until reality begins to seep back into your brain.
 
2013-08-27 05:01:36 PM

jaytkay: EvilEgg: I don't see it as racist. Unless the clown was doing stereotypical black things...

...like having a tail
[550x413 from http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/assets_c/2013/08/obama-mask- 7-thumb-550x413.jpg image 550x413]


No tail, it was a broom.

www.bet.com
 
2013-08-27 05:19:42 PM
www.jcnot4me.com
 
2013-08-27 05:20:35 PM

clkeagle: Other, subby?  When did Barack Obama become an ex-president?


Time traveler posting from the future.
 
2013-08-27 05:25:58 PM

Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.


When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.
 
2013-08-27 05:32:28 PM

KidneyStone: [850x607 from http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Bush-monkey.gif image 850x607]


I know, right? The nightmare of being a super-rich WASP and having to constantly be reminded of all the prejudice your people have endured for generations - particularly the centuries-old "chimp libel".
 
2013-08-27 05:35:32 PM

OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.


Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.
 
2013-08-27 05:42:03 PM

udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.


Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".
 
2013-08-27 05:48:36 PM

OgreMagi: udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.

Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".


So when he specifically states that it is his own opinion it automatically is attributed to the entire White House.
 
2013-08-27 06:04:46 PM

OgreMagi: udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.

Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".


Those two are not even close to the same thing.

Jay Carney authorised to speak to the media on behalf of the administration, Josh Earnest is not.

If he was a White House Spokesman, it would say so in his title. It clearly, objectively does not. You might as well be trying to call him a White House Janitor; that's simply not his role.
 
2013-08-27 06:10:10 PM

Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: No tail, it was a broom.


I've asked a lot of times and have yet to receive any answer:

What the hell is that supposed to symbolize?
 
2013-08-27 06:32:11 PM

Deucednuisance: Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: No tail, it was a broom.

I've asked a lot of times and have yet to receive any answer:

What the hell is that supposed to symbolize?


A monkey tail.
 
2013-08-27 06:37:45 PM
Obama Clown

It's still offensive. Sorry if that kills your hardon.
 
2013-08-27 06:49:09 PM

OgreMagi: udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.

Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".


Not this shiat again. Thought we handled it up thread.
 
2013-08-27 06:58:55 PM

Garet Garrett: s1ugg0: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


By all means please keep making stuff up.  It's not like we can fact check you effortlessly and then begin mocking your stupidity.

White House: President Has No Reaction To Rodeo Clown Wearing Obama Mask

White House, MSNBC, whatever.  Same shiat, different name.  Why would the WH put itself out there when they can get the same results having its useful idiots get their hands dirty?


Useful idiots like the Republicans in the state and local governments who were the ones that actually fired the guy?
 
2013-08-27 07:03:00 PM

whidbey: Obama Clown

It's still offensive. Sorry if that kills your hardon.


I partially agree with you...

The Obama Clown, in and of itself, was not offensive. Presidential clowns are pretty common at rodeos.

Bobbling the lips on the Obama mask was a mildly offensive action with a racial undertone. I had a chucklesnort at that, but I could see someone being offended.

"Does anyone want to see Obama run down by a bull?!" - Seriously? Whipping the crowd into a frenzy to see the President trampled by an angry bovine? That's offensive no matter which President they're depicting.
 
2013-08-27 07:04:58 PM

Garet Garrett: White House, MSNBC, whatever.  Same shiat, different name.


I know republicans/conservatives are masters of projection. That's always been their thing, at least the last decade or so. So equating the bias of MSNBC with Fox News is understandable but still retarded.
 
2013-08-27 07:23:23 PM

mediablitz: Yeah. The whole "let's flap his lips!" was surely something that would be done to a white president.


I'm not going to lie to you, I put that down to Southern Slang. I've heard 'flapping yer yap' as an idiom for talking too much.
 
2013-08-27 09:17:18 PM

jaytkay: Deucednuisance: Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: No tail, it was a broom.

I've asked a lot of times and have yet to receive any answer:

What the hell is that supposed to symbolize?

A monkey tail.


A common clown prop.

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2013-08-27 09:30:12 PM

Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: A common clown prop.


Yeah, one crappy picture on the internet of a broom not used in the same way affirms this is as "common".

Why are bigots so devoted to "proving" they're not bigots? BE A MAN AND ADMIT IT!
 
2013-08-27 09:36:12 PM

grumpfuff: OgreMagi: udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.

Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".

Not this shiat again. Thought we handled it up thread.


The butthurt is strong with this one.
 
2013-08-27 09:38:58 PM

Jgok: whidbey: Obama Clown

It's still offensive. Sorry if that kills your hardon.

I partially agree with you...

The Obama Clown, in and of itself, was not offensive. Presidential clowns are pretty common at rodeos.

Bobbling the lips on the Obama mask was a mildly offensive action with a racial undertone. I had a chucklesnort at that, but I could see someone being offended.


Actually, so could most people. You didn't want me to go there, did you?

"Does anyone want to see Obama run down by a bull?!" - Seriously? Whipping the crowd into a frenzy to see the President trampled by an angry bovine? That's offensive no matter which President they're depicting.

Still can't shake that whole "both sides" crap, huh? But of course Obama was the same as Bush, who would have actually deserved such an effigy.
 
2013-08-28 09:37:53 AM

jaytkay: A monkey tail.


How the hell does that work, with the straws and all?  Wouldn't a rope have worked better?  I mean, it's not like there isn't a lot of rope handy at a farking Rodeo....

I figured it was some variation on the "boy's got a broomstick up his butt" theme, but didn't see how that worked in context, either.  Because Obama's not a stiff.  Maybe it's a "he's down with the gheys, because he's in the closet" thing?  That angle's been tried more than a few times, maybe that's what it represents, I dunno.

Symbolism has to either speak directly (a Hitler mustache, say, everyone knows what's being said by that) or have some long-developed shorthand for a concept (look up the history of the Cuckold's Horns, for instance, it's pretty complex) for it to mean anything.

This just doesn't make a lick of sense.

jaytkay: Yeah, one crappy picture on the internet of a broom


"Crappy"?  Dude, despite the signature I can assure you, that's a genuine Artanis!
 
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