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2013-08-27 02:27:46 PM

grumpfuff: Well if that's your best defense, I feel obligated to inform you that, as an inanimate object, the White House is actually incapable of having or expressing feelings due to it being an inanimate object.


Gonna have to side with Stealth on this one; the White House (ie the President) has always been held accountable for things anyone says.  A perfect example for the "but, but Bush" crowd is when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act.
 
2013-08-27 02:32:53 PM

born_yesterday: grumpfuff: Well if that's your best defense, I feel obligated to inform you that, as an inanimate object, the White House is actually incapable of having or expressing feelings due to it being an inanimate object.

Gonna have to side with Stealth on this one; the White House (ie the President) has always been held accountable for things anyone says.  A perfect example for the "but, but Bush" crowd is when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act.


Even though Earnest specifically said they were his personal feelings, he's still speaking on behalf of the President? Gonna have to disagree with you there.

The "But, but Bush" is just a silly non-sequitor, though the bolded part amuses me. Assuming you meant "by the left."
 
2013-08-27 02:36:30 PM

born_yesterday: when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act


Well, at least your login's accurate.
 
2013-08-27 02:36:32 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: He [Josh Earnest] is the White House Press Secretary.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: One example of me lying please.


There you go, chucklefark.
 
2013-08-27 02:41:17 PM

udhq: The Stealth Hippopotamus: He [Josh Earnest] is the White House Press Secretary.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: One example of me lying please.

There you go, chucklefark.


Well I farked that up.

I was wrong and as fark as taught me wrong equals lying.


got me on that one
 
2013-08-27 02:46:00 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: One example of me lying please.


My command, your wish is!

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


Ta-Da!

Let's apply just a little logic here, please?

If the White House Made it a "big deal" of it why was question asked in the first place?

How can this timeline co-exist with your claim being true?

Event happens - Aug 10

Story covered by MSM from the networks to the Christian Science Monitor to the farking Blaze - August 11

Clown banned for life, similar coverage - August 12

White House press conference which starts Big Deal - August 14

It was a Big Deal long before Mr. Earnest spoke for himself.  But you're doubling down.  Why, for heaven's sake?

And, according to the official transcript, you misquoted Mr. Earnest:

MR. EARNEST:  I have not talked to my colleagues in the White House about this, and I haven't heard about the President's reaction or if he had one.

I can tell you as a native Missourian it's certainly not one of the finer moments for our state, and not the way that I like to see our state mentioned in the news.


So that's two, right there.
 
2013-08-27 02:46:03 PM

phenn: plewis: It's almost as if these people are incapable of learning.  And since when has it been a "thing" to have a president as a rodeo clown?

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Why would someone wear a "Bush" mask in 1994?

GHW Bush was out of office. GW Bush hadn't been governor.
 
2013-08-27 02:46:50 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: udhq: The Stealth Hippopotamus: He [Josh Earnest] is the White House Press Secretary.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: One example of me lying please.

There you go, chucklefark.

Well I farked that up.

I was wrong and as fark as taught me wrong equals lying.


got me on that one


I'd agree with you on that. You were wrong, and you admitted it, so props for you in terms of that.

It doesn't change the fact that you're claiming Earnest is speaking on behalf of the President when he's not.
 
2013-08-27 02:47:07 PM

grumpfuff: born_yesterday: grumpfuff: Well if that's your best defense, I feel obligated to inform you that, as an inanimate object, the White House is actually incapable of having or expressing feelings due to it being an inanimate object.

Gonna have to side with Stealth on this one; the White House (ie the President) has always been held accountable for things anyone says.  A perfect example for the "but, but Bush" crowd is when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act.

Even though Earnest specifically said they were his personal feelings, he's still speaking on behalf of the President? Gonna have to disagree with you there.

The "But, but Bush" is just a silly non-sequitor, though the bolded part amuses me. Assuming you meant "by the left."


LOL I TROLL U!

No, not really, just being very dryly sarcastic.  If Obama had said anything, he would be wrong.  If any more of his staff had said something, it would be wrong.  If they had said nothing at all, it would have been criticized.  And everyone in the thread knows it.

Wooly Bully: born_yesterday: when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act

Well, at least your login's accurate.


LOL I TROLL U TOO!!!

/Again, not really.  Must be in a dry humor.
 
2013-08-27 02:49:40 PM

born_yesterday: grumpfuff: born_yesterday: grumpfuff: Well if that's your best defense, I feel obligated to inform you that, as an inanimate object, the White House is actually incapable of having or expressing feelings due to it being an inanimate object.

Gonna have to side with Stealth on this one; the White House (ie the President) has always been held accountable for things anyone says.  A perfect example for the "but, but Bush" crowd is when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act.

Even though Earnest specifically said they were his personal feelings, he's still speaking on behalf of the President? Gonna have to disagree with you there.

The "But, but Bush" is just a silly non-sequitor, though the bolded part amuses me. Assuming you meant "by the left."

LOL I TROLL U!

No, not really, just being very dryly sarcastic.  If Obama had said anything, he would be wrong.  If any more of his staff had said something, it would be wrong.  If they had said nothing at all, it would have been criticized.  And everyone in the thread knows it.


I really need to start farky-ing more people, and not just spur of the moment amusement ones. Poe's Law has been kicking my ass lately.
 
2013-08-27 02:54:02 PM

jaytkay: phenn: plewis: It's almost as if these people are incapable of learning.  And since when has it been a "thing" to have a president as a rodeo clown?

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Why would someone wear a "Bush" mask in 1994?

GHW Bush was out of office. GW Bush hadn't been governor.


I think whomever put that graphic together got his years mixed up? Don't know. Either way, both are pretty dumb.
 
2013-08-27 02:56:22 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I know some people use the terms President and White House interchangeably but that is wrong.


The Stealth Hippopotamus: since his press secretary couldn't keep his month shut the Prez needed to step in.


So on one hand you say they're not interchangeable yet you believe Obama should have stepped in to correct the personal opinion of Mr. Earnest.  Seems legit.
 
2013-08-27 03:00:55 PM

grumpfuff: I'd agree with you on that. You were wrong, and you admitted it, so props for you in terms of that.

It doesn't change the fact that you're claiming Earnest is speaking on behalf of the President when he's not.


never ever said that. Made a point of not saying. repeated time and time again that he (The President) didn't say anything at all. I did however say that if Obama did say something he could have put out this fire while it was just a flicker. I stand by that.

I just farked up and got Jay Carney and Josh Earnest in my head. One is the actual Press Secretary and the other is the Principal Deputy Press Secretary. Both speck for the President for a living. But a mistake is a mistake or in this case a mistake is a lie. I can live with that.

However the Principal Deputy Press Secretary is still part of the White House staff. So everything else still works.
 
2013-08-27 03:03:57 PM

born_yesterday: Wooly Bully: born_yesterday: when the cover of a covert agent, Valerie Plame, was leaked by someone "in the White House", and President Bush was immediately held by the right as entirely responsible for this seditious act

Well, at least your login's accurate.

LOL I TROLL U TOO!!!

/Again, not really. Must be in a dry humor.


Sh*t. My sarcasm meter was working earlier today.
 
2013-08-27 03:04:00 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: grumpfuff: I'd agree with you on that. You were wrong, and you admitted it, so props for you in terms of that.

It doesn't change the fact that you're claiming Earnest is speaking on behalf of the President when he's not.

never ever said that. Made a point of not saying. repeated time and time again that he (The President) didn't say anything at all. I did however say that if Obama did say something he could have put out this fire while it was just a flicker. I stand by that.

I just farked up and got Jay Carney and Josh Earnest in my head. One is the actual Press Secretary and the other is the Principal Deputy Press Secretary. Both speck for the President for a living. But a mistake is a mistake or in this case a mistake is a lie. I can live with that.

However the Principal Deputy Press Secretary is still part of the White House staff. So everything else still works.


Even when he explicitly says that what he is saying is his personal opinion, and not that of the President. So basically, anytime Carney or Earnest say anything, it's totes identical with what Obama says. Got it. Seems legit.
 
2013-08-27 03:06:29 PM
And while I'm on the subject of what made what a "big deal", actually reading the question, which is sourced again from the official transcript, is instructive:

Q    And I have just one more, Josh.  The Missouri chapter of the NAACP is apparently going to call on the DOJ and the Secret Service to investigate the rodeo clown who wore a mask of President Obama.  Is that something that the DOJ will investigate?  And what was the White House's reaction to that incident?

Apparently the NAACP finding the event to be a big enough deal as to request investigations from both the DOJ and Secret Service is no big deal, but one guy's statement of personal opinion?

Big Deal.

Dude, just give it up.  You're looking ridiculous at this point.
 
2013-08-27 03:07:36 PM

s1ugg0: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


By all means please keep making stuff up.  It's not like we can fact check you effortlessly and then begin mocking your stupidity.

White House: President Has No Reaction To Rodeo Clown Wearing Obama Mask


White House, MSNBC, whatever.  Same shiat, different name.  Why would the WH put itself out there when they can get the same results having its useful idiots get their hands dirty?
 
2013-08-27 03:09:33 PM
And you know that the few people saying the failure of Obama to speak made it a big deal would be saying that stooping to respond to such silliness would be granting it more importance than it deserves.

Because that would have been making it, you know, a Big Deal.
 
2013-08-27 03:12:16 PM

Garet Garrett: Why would the WH put itself out there when they can get the same results having its useful idiots get their hands dirty?


I feel so dirty doing this, but...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/11/rodeo-clown-dons-obama-ma sk -gets-chased-by-bull-crowd-goes-nuts-libs-want-heads-to-roll/

Ladies and Gentlemen, meet the latest useful idiot for Obama, Glenn Beck.
 
2013-08-27 03:15:00 PM

Fart_Machine: So on one hand you say they're not interchangeable yet you believe Obama should have stepped in to correct the personal opinion of Mr. Earnest. Seems legit.


His Principal Deputy Press Secretary? Yeah, I would have gone with "Yeah, I haven't been paying attention to that, however I did see what Mr. Earnest said, he should have gone with no comment and left it there"

That forum was not there to voice Mr. Earnest's opinions. He did his boss a disservice by opening his mouth. He added fuel to a fire that should have been laughed off.

How hard is that to understand? Is defending this President and this administration really that big of a knee jerk reaction? Is everything that comes out of that group of people handled so perfectly that someone cannot say that it could have been handed better?
 
2013-08-27 03:30:28 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Fart_Machine: So on one hand you say they're not interchangeable yet you believe Obama should have stepped in to correct the personal opinion of Mr. Earnest. Seems legit.

His Principal Deputy Press Secretary? Yeah, I would have gone with "Yeah, I haven't been paying attention to that, however I did see what Mr. Earnest said, he should have gone with no comment and left it there"

That forum was not there to voice Mr. Earnest's opinions. He did his boss a disservice by opening his mouth. He added fuel to a fire that should have been laughed off.

How hard is that to understand? Is defending this President and this administration really that big of a knee jerk reaction? Is everything that comes out of that group of people handled so perfectly that someone cannot say that it could have been handed better?


Yes the President coming out to specifically address a member of his staff's stated personal opinion wouldn't draw further attention to it whatsoever. So by Obama not making a public issue over this he's actually making a "big deal" about it.

This is what concern trolls actually believe.
 
2013-08-27 03:34:02 PM

Deucednuisance: Garet Garrett: Why would the WH put itself out there when they can get the same results having its useful idiots get their hands dirty?

I feel so dirty doing this, but...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/11/rodeo-clown-dons-obama-ma sk -gets-chased-by-bull-crowd-goes-nuts-libs-want-heads-to-roll/

Ladies and Gentlemen, meet the latest useful idiot for Obama, Glenn Beck.


Fox News made a big deal about it too. We're through the looking glass people.
 
2013-08-27 03:58:28 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: T

ol_rooter: usernameguy: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

Can't blame the guy for cashing the paycheck

They made such a huge deal about it by not saying a single word.

Further proof that no matter what he says, does, doesn't say, or doesn't do, "independents" will blame him. Bush derangement syndrome ain't got nothing on Obama derangement syndrome.

When the main stream racebaiters start getting on Obama, saying he has the ability to steer tornadoes into white trash trailer parks, like they said Bush did with Katrina because he hates black people, you'll have a point. Until then, step away from the keyboard.


I don't remember that happening...ever. Seriously, provide one link to an article in the Mainstream that said Bush steered Katrina into New Orleans. No one, that I am aware of, blamed Bush for Katrina happening. They blamed him for the lousy disaster response. They blamed him for putting a horse judge in the main seat of the national disaster response team. Hell, even Kanye farking West (hardly a member of the mainstream) didn't even say that Bush hated black people. He said Bush didn't care about black people.

You might want to put down what you're drinking and back away from that keyboars until reality begins to seep back into your brain.
 
2013-08-27 05:01:36 PM

jaytkay: EvilEgg: I don't see it as racist. Unless the clown was doing stereotypical black things...

...like having a tail
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No tail, it was a broom.

www.bet.com
 
2013-08-27 05:19:42 PM
www.jcnot4me.com
 
2013-08-27 05:20:35 PM

clkeagle: Other, subby?  When did Barack Obama become an ex-president?


Time traveler posting from the future.
 
2013-08-27 05:25:58 PM

Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.


When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.
 
2013-08-27 05:32:28 PM

KidneyStone: [850x607 from http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Bush-monkey.gif image 850x607]


I know, right? The nightmare of being a super-rich WASP and having to constantly be reminded of all the prejudice your people have endured for generations - particularly the centuries-old "chimp libel".
 
2013-08-27 05:35:32 PM

OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.


Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.
 
2013-08-27 05:42:03 PM

udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.


Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".
 
2013-08-27 05:48:36 PM

OgreMagi: udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.

Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".


So when he specifically states that it is his own opinion it automatically is attributed to the entire White House.
 
2013-08-27 06:04:46 PM

OgreMagi: udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.

Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".


Those two are not even close to the same thing.

Jay Carney authorised to speak to the media on behalf of the administration, Josh Earnest is not.

If he was a White House Spokesman, it would say so in his title. It clearly, objectively does not. You might as well be trying to call him a White House Janitor; that's simply not his role.
 
2013-08-27 06:10:10 PM

Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: No tail, it was a broom.


I've asked a lot of times and have yet to receive any answer:

What the hell is that supposed to symbolize?
 
2013-08-27 06:32:11 PM

Deucednuisance: Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: No tail, it was a broom.

I've asked a lot of times and have yet to receive any answer:

What the hell is that supposed to symbolize?


A monkey tail.
 
2013-08-27 06:37:45 PM
Obama Clown

It's still offensive. Sorry if that kills your hardon.
 
2013-08-27 06:49:09 PM

OgreMagi: udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.

Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".


Not this shiat again. Thought we handled it up thread.
 
2013-08-27 06:58:55 PM

Garet Garrett: s1ugg0: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.


By all means please keep making stuff up.  It's not like we can fact check you effortlessly and then begin mocking your stupidity.

White House: President Has No Reaction To Rodeo Clown Wearing Obama Mask

White House, MSNBC, whatever.  Same shiat, different name.  Why would the WH put itself out there when they can get the same results having its useful idiots get their hands dirty?


Useful idiots like the Republicans in the state and local governments who were the ones that actually fired the guy?
 
2013-08-27 07:03:00 PM

whidbey: Obama Clown

It's still offensive. Sorry if that kills your hardon.


I partially agree with you...

The Obama Clown, in and of itself, was not offensive. Presidential clowns are pretty common at rodeos.

Bobbling the lips on the Obama mask was a mildly offensive action with a racial undertone. I had a chucklesnort at that, but I could see someone being offended.

"Does anyone want to see Obama run down by a bull?!" - Seriously? Whipping the crowd into a frenzy to see the President trampled by an angry bovine? That's offensive no matter which President they're depicting.
 
2013-08-27 07:04:58 PM

Garet Garrett: White House, MSNBC, whatever.  Same shiat, different name.


I know republicans/conservatives are masters of projection. That's always been their thing, at least the last decade or so. So equating the bias of MSNBC with Fox News is understandable but still retarded.
 
2013-08-27 07:23:23 PM

mediablitz: Yeah. The whole "let's flap his lips!" was surely something that would be done to a white president.


I'm not going to lie to you, I put that down to Southern Slang. I've heard 'flapping yer yap' as an idiom for talking too much.
 
2013-08-27 09:17:18 PM

jaytkay: Deucednuisance: Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: No tail, it was a broom.

I've asked a lot of times and have yet to receive any answer:

What the hell is that supposed to symbolize?

A monkey tail.


A common clown prop.

img0.etsystatic.com
 
2013-08-27 09:30:12 PM

Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: A common clown prop.


Yeah, one crappy picture on the internet of a broom not used in the same way affirms this is as "common".

Why are bigots so devoted to "proving" they're not bigots? BE A MAN AND ADMIT IT!
 
2013-08-27 09:36:12 PM

grumpfuff: OgreMagi: udhq: OgreMagi: Fart_Machine: jaytkay: The Stealth Hippopotamus: The White House could have just laughed this off like grown ups. Instead they made it a big deal.

The White House never commented on it.

Apparently a White House spokesman saying he was personally disappointed as a native of the state when asked about it from a reporter is the entire White House making a big deal or something.

When your job title is "White House Spokesman", yes.

Well, good thing that wasn't the case, then.

Josh Earnest is the White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary.  So yes, his title is basically "White House Spokesman".

Not this shiat again. Thought we handled it up thread.


The butthurt is strong with this one.
 
2013-08-27 09:38:58 PM

Jgok: whidbey: Obama Clown

It's still offensive. Sorry if that kills your hardon.

I partially agree with you...

The Obama Clown, in and of itself, was not offensive. Presidential clowns are pretty common at rodeos.

Bobbling the lips on the Obama mask was a mildly offensive action with a racial undertone. I had a chucklesnort at that, but I could see someone being offended.


Actually, so could most people. You didn't want me to go there, did you?

"Does anyone want to see Obama run down by a bull?!" - Seriously? Whipping the crowd into a frenzy to see the President trampled by an angry bovine? That's offensive no matter which President they're depicting.

Still can't shake that whole "both sides" crap, huh? But of course Obama was the same as Bush, who would have actually deserved such an effigy.
 
2013-08-28 09:37:53 AM

jaytkay: A monkey tail.


How the hell does that work, with the straws and all?  Wouldn't a rope have worked better?  I mean, it's not like there isn't a lot of rope handy at a farking Rodeo....

I figured it was some variation on the "boy's got a broomstick up his butt" theme, but didn't see how that worked in context, either.  Because Obama's not a stiff.  Maybe it's a "he's down with the gheys, because he's in the closet" thing?  That angle's been tried more than a few times, maybe that's what it represents, I dunno.

Symbolism has to either speak directly (a Hitler mustache, say, everyone knows what's being said by that) or have some long-developed shorthand for a concept (look up the history of the Cuckold's Horns, for instance, it's pretty complex) for it to mean anything.

This just doesn't make a lick of sense.

jaytkay: Yeah, one crappy picture on the internet of a broom


"Crappy"?  Dude, despite the signature I can assure you, that's a genuine Artanis!
 
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