Emposter: In terms of careers, the report found a chasm between what students want to study and where they might find jobs down the road. ACT compared federal Bureau of Labor Statistics projections with their own questionnaires and found insufficient student interest in the five fastest-growing industries with workers who require some college."When informed by researchers, students were astonished to find that 75% of jobs in the United States were not devoted to theater arts, philosophy, history, and recreational frisbee golf.
TuteTibiImperes: Earning a high school diploma should mean that you'd be capable of handling a college education.
Worldwalker: TuteTibiImperes: Earning a high school diploma should mean that you'd be capable of handling a college education.No.
red5ish: ReapTheChaos: Sounds about right, not everyone needs to be a rocket scientist, the world needs ditch diggers too.Um, hate to break this to you, but they have machines that dig ditches now.[609x457 from http://imageshack.us/a/img203/7514/wxpx.jpg image 609x457]Better start hitting those books, kids, cause all the great ditch digging jobs are gone.
shtychkn: TuteTibiImperes: shtychkn: TuteTibiImperes: Earning a high school diploma should mean that you'd be capable of handling a college education. That doesn't mean that everyone will, or that everyone should, but everyone should be capable. It also doesn't mean that everyone should be able to go to Harvard or MIT, but that on some range between the Ivy League and Community College every high school graduate should have the necessary skills to continue his or her education at the next level if they choose to do so.School Districts have immense pressure from parents/society to graduate students. Many districts are currently looking that the "unfairness" of the Zero. Going to a system where the lowest grade you can receive is a 50%. Practically making graduating/passing near impossible to not do.Part of that is also NCLB, which is also part of why a bachelor's degree is now considered the standard level of education for employment whereas a high school diploma used to be - the HS diploma has just been watered down to such a degree that in many cases it doesn't mean much on its own.One thing NCLB gets flack for, but is actually attempting to make a HS diploma worth something is the requirement to pass a standardized test to receive your diploma. Doesn't matter how easy parents/schools make it to get a "d" in the class. If you can't pass a basic test you cant get a diploma.The new parcc test will set national standards for what you need to know. Will mean students will actually have to learn to pass. Will be interesting.
Mr. Ekshun: I find it more disturbing that the same is true of the vast majority of people who graduate from college./Your//You're///That third one
thurstonxhowell: TFA actually says only 1 in 4 high school graduates are college ready:Just a quarter of this year's high school graduates cleared the bar in all four subjectsThe headline is referencing the proportion of students who were not ready for college coursework in any subject.
Worldwalker: this "English" and "history" stuff wouldn't make him any more money, so it was a waste in his eyes.
Dafatone: Who cares?We need to stop worrying about whether or not the worst students are passing. We definitely need to stop this teacher witch hunt that's behind all the attempts to defund "bad" schools and fire "bad" teachers.Somehow, a bunch of America has been tricked into thinking the solution to education is to remove or punish bad elements, which is really just a way for us to feel better about ourselves, because we're not the "bad" ones.What we need to do is to put time, money, and effort into making education better. Smaller classes, more funding for school supplies, better teacher training, etc.We need a teacher positive and education positive approach, not one that just has everyone frothing to punish the bad guys.
Dafatone: What we need to do is to put time, money, and effort into making education better. Smaller classes, more funding for school supplies, better teacher training, etc.
Gabrielmot: What schools *need* are classes appropriate to your major... a technical writing class *should* be required for a CS degree... history? sure... But why aren't there classes required for CS majors in history which go into the history of software and hardware? That would solve *tons* of problems with older programmers and technicians interacting with younger hires
Gabrielmot: Worldwalker: this "English" and "history" stuff wouldn't make him any more money, so it was a waste in his eyes.It is a waste.CS degree here. I was required to take "Poetry" and "Spy Fiction" as part of my major and they were a waste of time. Don't get me wrong, they were also easy A's (although you wouldn't know that with all the English majors getting nothing higher than a C), but essentially a waste of time.In the *real world*, you know, outside of Starbucks... I really could have used a technical writing class, and my school offered it as an option... just not to my major.What schools *need* are classes appropriate to your major... a technical writing class *should* be required for a CS degree... history? sure... But why aren't there classes required for CS majors in history which go into the history of software and hardware? That would solve *tons* of problems with older programmers and technicians interacting with younger hires.And it would cut the "learning curve" out of hiring a recent CS or IS graduate.But in the meantime, I know a lot of "Poetry" and can point you to some good "Spy Fiction" novels.
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