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(NYPost)   The Essence of True Heroism: Having faced a 'blizzard of bullets' for his fellow Soldiers in Afghanistan, U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Ty Carter received the Medal of Honor from President Obama today   (nypost.com) divider line 99
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2013-08-26 08:47:17 PM
Good for Sgt. Carter, what an honor for the President.
 
2013-08-26 08:54:26 PM
Salute, SSG. Carter. May you have a long and peaceful life
 
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2013-08-26 09:33:34 PM

feckingmorons: Good for Sgt. Carter, what an honor for the President.


Nothing like using the achievements of a hero to take a low dirty shot at the president.  Then again, I would expect nothing more from you.
 
2013-08-26 09:47:04 PM

NFA: feckingmorons: Good for Sgt. Carter, what an honor for the President.

Nothing like using the achievements of a hero to take a low dirty shot at the president.  Then again, I would expect nothing more from you.


That was a shot? I'll have to turn on MSNBC, to find out what's acceptable today
 
2013-08-27 01:23:13 AM
I'll be over here waiting for someone to complain about the hero tag.
 
2013-08-27 02:15:26 AM

log_jammin: I'll be over here waiting for someone to complain about the hero tag.


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2013-08-27 02:17:21 AM
Also, salute to Ty Carter.
 
2013-08-27 02:35:25 AM

log_jammin: I'll be over here waiting for someone to complain about the hero tag.


why would someone complain? these are the few cases where HERO is clearly warranted.
I guess extreme military haters ....

I hate war and the military complex as much as the next guy, but I have family and friends in afghan and other fobs today. why would anyone hate the soldiers?

/not counting the insane farks like at those prisons or some of the insanity in VN ...
/gah - I hate people
 
2013-08-27 02:45:46 AM

namatad: why would someone complain?


because there's always someone.

always.
 
2013-08-27 03:13:25 AM

log_jammin: namatad: why would someone complain?

because there's always someone.

always.


The important thing is to focus on them, and not Ty Carter.
 
2013-08-27 03:15:40 AM

impaler: The important thing is to focus on them, and not Ty Carter.


who?
 
2013-08-27 03:32:40 AM

log_jammin: impaler: The important thing is to focus on them, and not Ty Carter.

who?


Miley Cyrus. That woman that was twerking at the VMAs? You might have heard of her.
 
2013-08-27 03:38:31 AM

impaler: Miley Cyrus. That woman that was twerking at the VMAs? You might have heard of her.


dude that was crazy!!!!
 
2013-08-27 03:41:19 AM

NFA: Nothing like using the achievements of a hero to take a low dirty shot at the president. Then again, I would expect nothing more from you.


Give your a TFer I thought you would be use to this but...



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2013-08-27 03:42:24 AM
FTA: "Still suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome, Carter stood nearly emotionless during the ceremony, &

No medal can take away the damage that is done to these men and women serving in the armed forces. It's a shame the politicians continue to put them in harm's way, and then exploit their heroism for public support that helps to perpetuate our endless wars Global Struggle Against People Who Hate Us For Our Freedoms!
 
2013-08-27 03:45:40 AM
I installed the mwr Internet(spawar) at that fob 7 months before that happened. Crazy times.
 
2013-08-27 03:45:47 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: and then exploit their heroism for public support


you think being awarded the CMO is exploitation?
 
2013-08-27 03:48:01 AM
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2013-08-27 03:49:13 AM

log_jammin: you think being awarded the CMO is exploitation?


An elected official awarding the medal in a big ceremony with press in attendance makes it an inherently political act. I don't see how it would be possible to argue otherwise. And by creating media surrounding tales of people doing heroic things, the medals are designed to foster public support for military actions.
 
2013-08-27 03:50:27 AM

Allen262: Give your a TFer I thought you would be use to this but...


You may be having a stroke.

Time lost is brain lost.
 
2013-08-27 03:53:13 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: log_jammin: you think being awarded the CMO is exploitation?

An elected official awarding the medal in a big ceremony with press in attendance makes it an inherently political act. I don't see how it would be possible to argue otherwise. And by creating media surrounding tales of people doing heroic things, the medals are designed to foster public support for military actions.


And if one thinks otherwise, how often do the medal recipients say things like, "I deserved this" "this is what I always wanted" "I'm just glad I was recognized for my accomplishments."
 
2013-08-27 03:55:13 AM

The Muthaship: Allen262: Give your a TFer I thought you would be use to this but...

You may be having a stroke.

Time lost is brain lost.


Well I farked that up...
 
2013-08-27 03:55:21 AM
It's a slide show, but whoa!

Enormous Testicles of Steel!
 
2013-08-27 03:56:12 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: An elected official awarding the medal in a big ceremony with press in attendance makes it an inherently political act.


political act =/= expoltiation
 
2013-08-27 03:59:03 AM

impaler: And if one thinks otherwise, how often do the medal recipients say things like, "I deserved this" "this is what I always wanted" "I'm just glad I was recognized for my accomplishments."


I think you're confusing between a) the awarding of the medal and b) the public acts surrounding the medal.

It's like the difference between a Nobel Prize in Chemistry and a Nobel Peace Prize.

The latter is a very political act that uses the media surrounding it to make very political statements, while the other is mostly for recognition among your peers of the outstanding things you have done in your field (along with a nice pile of cash).
 
2013-08-27 03:59:23 AM
Well, hell. My hat's off to you. Even if you were a Marine named Sergeant Carter. You don't look the way I envisioned.
 
2013-08-27 04:00:05 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FTA: "Still suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome, Carter stood nearly emotionless during the ceremony, &



also to put this in context

Still suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome, Carter stood nearly emotionless during the ceremony, although a faint smile crossed his face near the end that turned into a broad grin as Obama hung the metal and its blue ribbon around his neck and the audience - which included 40 members of the recipient's family - answered with a rousing standing ovation.

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich:  No medal can take away the damage that is done to these men and women serving in the armed forces.

which is why he spent time talking about his PTSD.
 
2013-08-27 04:01:01 AM
Thanks Obama.
 
2013-08-27 04:01:48 AM

log_jammin: political act =/= expoltiation


No, but when it's used to help perpetuate a state that continues to put soldiers in harm's way for no good reason, then that crosses a line, imo.

Maybe if I'd talked with a soldier that came back from Afghanistan that said "man, we're doing a really good thing there," I would feel differently. But everyone I've known there has said it feels like they're putting their life on the line for no reason.
 
2013-08-27 04:02:07 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: I think you're confusing between a) the awarding of the medal and b) the public acts surrounding the medal.


please demonstrate the difference between the two. what specifically makes this more than awarding a medal.
 
2013-08-27 04:04:04 AM

log_jammin: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: No medal can take away the damage that is done to these men and women serving in the armed forces.

which is why he spent time talking about his PTSD.


Yeah, I think that he used his platform to speak out on PTSD is another really heroic thing to have done. I'm glad that he took advantage of the opportunity given to him to do it.
 
2013-08-27 04:04:11 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: No, but when it's used to help perpetuate a state that continues to put soldiers in harm's way for no good reason, then that crosses a line, imo.


you seem to be some sort of mind reader.
 
2013-08-27 04:06:01 AM

NFA: feckingmorons: Good for Sgt. Carter, what an honor for the President.

Nothing like using the achievements of a hero to take a low dirty shot at the president.  Then again, I would expect nothing more from you.


Actually, it should be an honor for any President. Even if a President were to already have one themselves.
 
2013-08-27 04:06:36 AM
Congratulations, Sgt. Carter.
 
2013-08-27 04:07:28 AM
The best way to honor these guys is to stop having these worthless farking wars every 2 years.
Onward to Syria!
 
2013-08-27 04:08:06 AM

feckingmorons: Good for Sgt. Carter, what an honor for the President.


You sir, are an un-American piece of human garbage.
 
2013-08-27 04:12:51 AM
The NSA knows exactly how many bullets he dodged that day.
 
2013-08-27 04:18:49 AM

Wrencher: NFA: feckingmorons: Good for Sgt. Carter, what an honor for the President.

Nothing like using the achievements of a hero to take a low dirty shot at the president.  Then again, I would expect nothing more from you.

Actually, it should be an honor for any President. Even if a President were to already have one themselves.


I had assumed that was what fecking meant. Not that the POTUS is to be criticized, but that getting to award the Congressional Medal of Honor to someone is insanely rare. How many people get a chance to stand on stage with someone nationally recognized as a bonafide badass warrior, and be the one to introduce them and hand them the award?

Heroes are forged, not born, and the crucible breaks upon each casting.
 
2013-08-27 04:20:16 AM
Just out of curiosity, do American's realise other countries don't treat their soldiers like hero's? Seeing all the hero tag posts on Fark for vets and stuff like that time Colbert had an audience full of returning Iraq vets seems weird to me.

From an external observer it kinda plays into the stereotype of the US being a little too in love with war as a concept.
 
2013-08-27 04:21:53 AM
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2013-08-27 04:21:59 AM

Downblunder: Just out of curiosity, do American's realise other countries don't treat their soldiers like hero's?


Oh dear.
 
2013-08-27 04:30:04 AM

Downblunder: Just out of curiosity, do American's realise other countries don't treat their soldiers like hero's? Seeing all the hero tag posts on Fark for vets and stuff like that time Colbert had an audience full of returning Iraq vets seems weird to me.

From an external observer it kinda plays into the stereotype of the US being a little too in love with war as a concept.


We honor those who are willing to put their life on the line, in the service of others. Contempt is reserved for those who send them into harm's way needlessly.
If you don't have respect for someone willing to die to protect you and your country, you just suck.
 
2013-08-27 04:30:24 AM
close enough.

I'm calling it at 04:20:16 a.m.
 
2013-08-27 04:37:33 AM
The Outpost by Jake Tapper is an excellent history of COP Keating and the men who lived and died there.  Highly recommended, unless you have hypertension - it is a maddening indictment of the inefficiency and seeming total incompetence of US high command.
 
2013-08-27 04:42:14 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: log_jammin: you think being awarded the CMO is exploitation?

An elected official awarding the medal in a big ceremony with press in attendance makes it an inherently political act. I don't see how it would be possible to argue otherwise. And by creating media surrounding tales of people doing heroic things, the medals are designed to foster public support for military actions.


Sorry, but I can't criticize Obama for this.  What's he supposed to do?  Make a phone call and tell him the medal is being mailed to him?

Sorry, but it's an honor to be awarded that medal.  That's why they call it the Medal of Honor. Let's save our outrage over Obama's political moves for something else.  Him being awarded the Medal of Honor was not a defense of going to war in the first place, which maybe you're aware Obama didn't start.  It wasn't a statement on foreign policy.  It was meant to honor someone who served our country and did so heroically.  I see honoring him as unpolitical.  It's something I think all Americans can support no matter if we're Democrats, Republicans or even Communists.

Go piss in someone else's cornflakes.
 
2013-08-27 04:50:16 AM

Downblunder: Just out of curiosity, do American's realise other countries don't treat their soldiers like hero's?


They don't?

Would this be a bad time to point out that the plural of hero is not "hero's", but "heroes"?  English mother-farker, do you speak it?

In reality pretty much every country in the world does treat soldiers like heroes, especially when they face danger in the line of enemy fire and go above and beyond the call of duty.  Even Australia does that.

Get off your high horse kangaroo and step into the real world.
 
2013-08-27 04:51:57 AM
I've seen disaster threads before, but this one was a freaky fast spin back to the pad.
 
2013-08-27 05:21:06 AM
img1.fark.net I won't argue with.

But who the hell had the bright idea of putting Combat Outpost Keating "at the bottom of a valley and surrounded by high mountains", to quote TFA?
 
2013-08-27 05:22:36 AM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: [54x11 from http://img1.fark.net/images/2001/topics/hero.gif image 54x11] I won't argue with.

But who the hell had the bright idea of putting Combat Outpost Keating "at the bottom of a valley and surrounded by high mountains", to quote TFA?


There have been many, many discussions about that at various levels.
 
2013-08-27 05:40:57 AM

log_jammin: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: I think you're confusing between a) the awarding of the medal and b) the public acts surrounding the medal.

please demonstrate the difference between the two. what specifically makes this more than awarding a medal.


LOL WUT?
 
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