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2013-08-26 08:22:43 PM
C-P-Rtard
 
2013-08-26 08:23:22 PM
Sometimes "No" means dead.
 
2013-08-26 08:24:37 PM
Remember, those are your buddies!  And your buddies wouldn't let you die, alone, with no help, would they?

Of course they would.
 
2013-08-26 08:24:47 PM
Police at Indiana University in Bloomington say that Rachael Fiege, 19, fell down the basement stairs at an off-campus house and passed out sometime between 1 and 2am on Friday.

Her fellow students helped her up, but did not call an ambulance until nearly 8am - seven hours later, because they didn't realize she was badly injured and thought she had just passed out, police say.


So she passed out and they just thought she was passed out?
 
2013-08-26 08:25:15 PM
Head injuries are serious business. I had one one time. Doctors were impressed with how much brain damage I didn't have.
 
2013-08-26 08:26:05 PM
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Shhh! Don't wake Rachel up. She's sleeping! heh heh heh
 
2013-08-26 08:26:47 PM
It's a fine, blurry line between passed out and alcohol poisoning.
 
2013-08-26 08:27:01 PM
Aw, it's just the alcohol!  Let her sleep it off in the corner.  Back to important things; where's the keg again?
 
2013-08-26 08:27:37 PM

CruJones: It's a fine, blurry line between passed out and alcohol poisoning.


Or serious head trauma
 
2013-08-26 08:28:14 PM
It must be pretty embarrassing going to the morgue with a dick drawn on your face.
 
2013-08-26 08:29:11 PM

farkingismybusiness: Head injuries are serious business. I had one one time. Doctors were impressed with how much brain damage I didn't have.


Yeah, there was a story a few years back about a party of volunteer firefighters tried drunkenly carrying a passed out girl back to her hotel room. They dropped her on her head in the parking lot and she died. I think that was a similar situation where they weren't aware she had massive head trauma until hours later.
 
2013-08-26 08:29:52 PM
I bet they even rolled her over on her stomach so she wouldn't swallow her tongue, like true friends.

Uzzah: [315x320 from http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LkKMXXjDLY8/T0F_fS6sPnI/AAAAAAAAFGA/lFf9LnFY W24/s640/charles-darwin.jpg image 315x320]
Shhh! Don't wake Rachel up. She's sleeping! heh heh heh


And I'm going to hell. Snort*
 
2013-08-26 08:30:51 PM

farkingismybusiness: It must be pretty embarrassing going to the morgue with a dick drawn on your face.


Or red cups stacked on her.
 
2013-08-26 08:30:53 PM
Awwww, that's sad. I wonder if her friends need someone to console them?
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-08-26 08:34:38 PM

fusillade762: farkingismybusiness: Head injuries are serious business. I had one one time. Doctors were impressed with how much brain damage I didn't have.

Yeah, there was a story a few years back about a party of volunteer firefighters tried drunkenly carrying a passed out girl back to her hotel room. They dropped her on her head in the parking lot and she died. I think that was a similar situation where they weren't aware she had massive head trauma until hours later.


Well, that didn't end how I expected.
 
2013-08-26 08:36:54 PM
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2013-08-26 08:40:21 PM

farkingismybusiness: It must be pretty embarrassing going to the morgue with a dick drawn on your face.


This kid decided to pass out with his shirt off, so we licked the back of gummi bears and stuck them all over his back.  He was soooo colorful, but alive.
 
2013-08-26 08:40:38 PM

fusillade762: Police at Indiana University in Bloomington say that Rachael Fiege, 19, fell down the basement stairs at an off-campus house and passed out sometime between 1 and 2am on Friday.

Her fellow students helped her up, but did not call an ambulance until nearly 8am - seven hours later, because they didn't realize she was badly injured and thought she had just passed out, police say.

So she passed out and they just thought she was passed out?


That was essentially how we had our only on-site death when I was a medic. Cranky old man had a slip&fall while drunk off his ass and refused to go to the ER when the paramedics checked him out. He went to his hotel room and fell asleep. By the time he started the projectile vomiting the next morning, it was too late to fix the subdural hematoma. Sad, really.
 
2013-08-26 08:41:24 PM
We were on a break!

*laugh track*
 
2013-08-26 08:41:44 PM
This is the problem with the asinine drinking age laws in the states.

Kids don't know how alcohol works until they're away from home and stupid shiat like this happens. I was an RA one year in undergrad, and in the first week of classes I looked into a dorm-room party to find a 1st year girl passed out in a puddle of vomit in the middle of the floor. Called an ambulance, but that was no reason for the rest of the kids to stop the party and they were still partying hard a few hours after she was taken out on a stretcher.

/CSB
 
2013-08-26 08:45:56 PM

thebravetoast: This is the problem with the asinine drinking age laws in the states.

Kids don't know how alcohol works until they're away from home and stupid shiat like this happens.


Not the fault of drinking laws, but the fault of parents who refuse to raise their kids to live in the real world.
 
2013-08-26 08:46:02 PM

CruJones: It's a fine, blurry line between passed out and alcohol poisoning.


Robin Thicke sees what you did there.
 
2013-08-26 08:46:03 PM

thebravetoast: This is the problem with the asinine drinking age laws in the states.

Kids don't know how alcohol works until they're away from home and stupid shiat like this happens. I was an RA one year in undergrad, and in the first week of classes I looked into a dorm-room party to find a 1st year girl passed out in a puddle of vomit in the middle of the floor. Called an ambulance, but that was no reason for the rest of the kids to stop the party and they were still partying hard a few hours after she was taken out on a stretcher.

/CSB


Wow.  What a shiatty RA.
 
2013-08-26 08:46:17 PM

thebravetoast: Kids don't know how alcohol works until they're away from home and stupid shiat like this happens.


Pretty much. Alcohol is a time bomb.
 
2013-08-26 08:46:22 PM
They still have the Video Saloon at IU?  I loved that bar.
 
2013-08-26 08:46:51 PM

Atomic Spunk: Awwww, that's sad. I wonder if her friends need someone to console them?
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She was gonna make me a pot.
 
2013-08-26 08:46:55 PM
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You went out six hours ago to buy a money counter and you come back with a semi-conscious Gloria and a bag of fertilizer. Alarm bells are ringing, Willie.
 
2013-08-26 08:48:51 PM

farkingismybusiness: Head injuries are serious business. I had one one time. Doctors were impressed with how much brain damage I didn't have.


I was once knocked out late one night whilst very, very drunk after getting jumped for my cellphone. When I came to in an alleyway, there were the flashing lights of an ambulance above me, and then the face of the paramedic who simply said "yep, looks like your nose is broken, want to go to hospital?" still very very drunk I simply shook my head, got up, and stumbled back to my hotel room (which ended up being plastered in my blood but that's a side story).

Still pisses me off to this day that they didn't take me to hospital to keep an eye on me. I was completely compliant and basically in their hands, and really don't understand their approach that night.

/that night taught me to fear and despise concussion
//and to not be so drunk that I can't take care of myself and make proper decisions
///was also the best man for a wedding I didn't believe in that night, really a shiat night all round
 
2013-08-26 08:49:31 PM
Between 1 and 2am Friday, she fell down basement stairs at the house and sustained a severe head injury.
Fellow students didn't realize she was hurt and didn't call an ambulance until 8am, when she wouldn't awaken.

...everyone being asleep on the watch for seven hours doesn't seem quite as bad when they were actually asleep.
 
2013-08-26 08:49:45 PM
:/

This is why the drinking age is 21.  That way underage people can't drink.  It instills a sense of responsibility into the act of consuming alcohol so young adults don't need to feel like they need to rebel against authority by "partying hard" like university students once did before the drinking age was raised to 21.
 
2013-08-26 08:50:12 PM
That much eye makeup screams "dumb."
 
2013-08-26 08:50:19 PM
Let me know if her condition changes....

www.blindfiveyearold.com
 
2013-08-26 08:50:42 PM

Kyosuke: thebravetoast: This is the problem with the asinine drinking age laws in the states.

Kids don't know how alcohol works until they're away from home and stupid shiat like this happens.

Not the fault of drinking laws, but the fault of parents who refuse to raise their kids to live in the real world.


Except, of course, in states where it's illegal to give your own offspring a sip of wine before they're 21
 
2013-08-26 08:51:43 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: thebravetoast: Kids don't know how alcohol works until they're away from home and stupid shiat like this happens.

Pretty much. Alcohol is a time bomb.


I preferred mushrooms and LSD as a teen/college-age kid.  There's no passing out or sleeping till the sun comes up.  If you can manage to fight off the bathtub snakes and shirt-hanging-on-the-back-of-the-door-goblins throughout the night, then you'll be fine.  Oh, and put away the sharp objects FIRST.  Good times.
 
2013-08-26 08:52:00 PM

"LILIAN! The biatch is falling down the steps again!"


/Goony goo-goo

 
2013-08-26 08:55:02 PM

andynz81: farkingismybusiness: Head injuries are serious business. I had one one time. Doctors were impressed with how much brain damage I didn't have.

I was once knocked out late one night whilst very, very drunk after getting jumped for my cellphone. When I came to in an alleyway, there were the flashing lights of an ambulance above me, and then the face of the paramedic who simply said "yep, looks like your nose is broken, want to go to hospital?" still very very drunk I simply shook my head, got up, and stumbled back to my hotel room (which ended up being plastered in my blood but that's a side story).

Still pisses me off to this day that they didn't take me to hospital to keep an eye on me. I was completely compliant and basically in their hands, and really don't understand their approach that night.

/that night taught me to fear and despise concussion
//and to not be so drunk that I can't take care of myself and make proper decisions
///was also the best man for a wedding I didn't believe in that night, really a shiat night all round


You left out the most important part:  was the bride hot?
 
2013-08-26 08:56:07 PM
Getting falling down drunk is almost always a bad idea.
If you're gonna do it, do it in the presence of good friends who aren't idiots and will look out for you - and who aren't also falling down drunk.
First day at university, you don't have those sort of friends.

Everybody at the party probably figured she was an SEP - Somebody Else's Problem
 
2013-08-26 08:56:20 PM
www.mintaad.com
 
2013-08-26 08:57:24 PM

andynz81: farkingismybusiness: Head injuries are serious business. I had one one time. Doctors were impressed with how much brain damage I didn't have.

I was once knocked out late one night whilst very, very drunk after getting jumped for my cellphone. When I came to in an alleyway, there were the flashing lights of an ambulance above me, and then the face of the paramedic who simply said "yep, looks like your nose is broken, want to go to hospital?" still very very drunk I simply shook my head, got up, and stumbled back to my hotel room (which ended up being plastered in my blood but that's a side story).

Still pisses me off to this day that they didn't take me to hospital to keep an eye on me. I was completely compliant and basically in their hands, and really don't understand their approach that night.

/that night taught me to fear and despise concussion
//and to not be so drunk that I can't take care of myself and make proper decisions
///was also the best man for a wedding I didn't believe in that night, really a shiat night all round


Because if you are an adult, and conscious, and refuse to go to the hospital, you cannot be made to go against your will. Doesn't matter if you are falling-down stumbling drunk and look like you've been fighting with a meat grinder--you can't be forced to go to a hospital. The cops could have arrested you; but very often unless you are SO wasted you look like you might die before you get home, the police will "give you a break" and let you stagger on home so you don't have an arrest on your record. Paramedics absolutely cannot just scoop you up and haul your drunken bleeding ass to the hospital unless you ask them to. It's called "false imprisonment" if they do, and only a cop can deprive you of your liberty without your consent.

Kind of sucks, but that's why they left you when you said you didn't want to go to the hospital.
 
2013-08-26 09:01:45 PM

andynz81: farkingismybusiness: Head injuries are serious business. I had one one time. Doctors were impressed with how much brain damage I didn't have.

I was once knocked out late one night whilst very, very drunk after getting jumped for my cellphone. When I came to in an alleyway, there were the flashing lights of an ambulance above me, and then the face of the paramedic who simply said "yep, looks like your nose is broken, want to go to hospital?" still very very drunk I simply shook my head, got up, and stumbled back to my hotel room (which ended up being plastered in my blood but that's a side story).

Still pisses me off to this day that they didn't take me to hospital to keep an eye on me. I was completely compliant and basically in their hands, and really don't understand their approach that night.

/that night taught me to fear and despise concussion
//and to not be so drunk that I can't take care of myself and make proper decisions
///was also the best man for a wedding I didn't believe in that night, really a shiat night all round


who the hell are you to "not believe in a wedding " ? what kind of conceited shiat is that ? keep your mouth shut,  hold the farking ring and dont try to fark your friend's wife asshole.
 
2013-08-26 09:03:08 PM
This is also known as "Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night" on every college campus in America.  I can't speak to how students react in Europe, but I can tell you that they can out-drink any American student.

As a former hall director (think front-line professional, if you aren't familiar with that), this happens routinely.  There's less drinking than commonly believed, and less bingeing too; but the rates are still unconscionably high.  And you're talking about an age group that, developmentally, aren't able to view themselves/their peers as mortal, or make the best decisions.  A percentage drink, a percentage of them binge drink, and when a percentage of them pass out (black out), it's viewed as funny or rite-of-passage.  Never as brain damage (which is what blackouts are) or a serious sign of poisoning (which may be fatal).

In the too-rare cases where someone does worry, urban myths are routinely applied.  Put them in a cold shower (and... they die of hypothermia).  Make them walk around (and they die after a fall).  Let them sleep it off (and they die of aspirating their own vomit, or simply organ failure due to severe alcohol poisoning).

Very rarely, someone mature enough calls for help... or a trained staff member finds the student.  That person is then labelled (at best) the "dorm mom/dad" or at worst as "farking narc."

BTW, in many cases the hard-core, problem drinkers arrive at college that way.  They've been bingeing since high school at least.
 
2013-08-26 09:04:59 PM

Kyosuke: thebravetoast: This is the problem with the asinine drinking age laws in the states.

Kids don't know how alcohol works until they're away from home and stupid shiat like this happens.

Not the fault of drinking laws, but the fault of parents who refuse to raise their kids to live in the real world.


If this girl had been home-schooled through college she would have been alive today...
 
2013-08-26 09:06:21 PM

Gyrfalcon: andynz81: farkingismybusiness: Head injuries are serious business. I had one one time. Doctors were impressed with how much brain damage I didn't have.

I was once knocked out late one night whilst very, very drunk after getting jumped for my cellphone. When I came to in an alleyway, there were the flashing lights of an ambulance above me, and then the face of the paramedic who simply said "yep, looks like your nose is broken, want to go to hospital?" still very very drunk I simply shook my head, got up, and stumbled back to my hotel room (which ended up being plastered in my blood but that's a side story).

Still pisses me off to this day that they didn't take me to hospital to keep an eye on me. I was completely compliant and basically in their hands, and really don't understand their approach that night.

/that night taught me to fear and despise concussion
//and to not be so drunk that I can't take care of myself and make proper decisions
///was also the best man for a wedding I didn't believe in that night, really a shiat night all round

Because if you are an adult, and conscious, and refuse to go to the hospital, you cannot be made to go against your will. Doesn't matter if you are falling-down stumbling drunk and look like you've been fighting with a meat grinder--you can't be forced to go to a hospital. The cops could have arrested you; but very often unless you are SO wasted you look like you might die before you get home, the police will "give you a break" and let you stagger on home so you don't have an arrest on your record. Paramedics absolutely cannot just scoop you up and haul your drunken bleeding ass to the hospital unless you ask them to. It's called "false imprisonment" if they do, and only a cop can deprive you of your liberty without your consent.

Kind of sucks, but that's why they left you when you said you didn't want to go to the hospital.


You seem rather well versed in New Zealand law for someone in Los Angeles.
 
2013-08-26 09:07:08 PM
www.familysecuritymatters.org
 
2013-08-26 09:08:54 PM

brimed03: This is also known as "Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night" on every college campus in America.  I can't speak to how students react in Europe, but I can tell you that they can out-drink any American student.

As a former hall director (think front-line professional, if you aren't familiar with that), this happens routinely.  There's less drinking than commonly believed, and less bingeing too; but the rates are still unconscionably high.  And you're talking about an age group that, developmentally, aren't able to view themselves/their peers as mortal, or make the best decisions.  A percentage drink, a percentage of them binge drink, and when a percentage of them pass out (black out), it's viewed as funny or rite-of-passage.  Never as brain damage (which is what blackouts are) or a serious sign of poisoning (which may be fatal).

In the too-rare cases where someone does worry, urban myths are routinely applied.  Put them in a cold shower (and... they die of hypothermia).  Make them walk around (and they die after a fall).  Let them sleep it off (and they die of aspirating their own vomit, or simply organ failure due to severe alcohol poisoning).

Very rarely, someone mature enough calls for help... or a trained staff member finds the student.  That person is then labelled (at best) the "dorm mom/dad" or at worst as "farking narc."

BTW, in many cases the hard-core, problem drinkers arrive at college that way.  They've been bingeing since high school at least.


Oh noes, draconian do-gooder laws have the obvious effect on the children they're supposed to protect. Whatever shall we do!?!?!?
 
2013-08-26 09:11:39 PM

Gyrfalcon: Because if you are an adult, and conscious, and refuse to go to the hospital, you cannot be made to go against your will. Doesn't matter if you are falling-down stumbling drunk and look like you've been fighting with a meat grinder--you can't be forced to go to a hospital. The cops could have arrested you; but very often unless you are SO wasted you look like you might die before you get home, the police will "give you a break" and let you stagger on home so you don't have an arrest on your record. Paramedics absolutely cannot just scoop you up and haul your drunken bleeding ass to the hospital unless you ask them to. It's called "false imprisonment" if they do, and only a cop can deprive you of your liberty without your consent.


Doesn't mean that they can't try to pressure you into it and tell you it's a really good idea. And don't you usually have to sign a consent form to decline treatment, and can't you be considered not in a good enough state of mind to even consent? andy's comment seems like they basically put no resistance between him and leaving, which would be a problem if it happened that way. 'course he also was coming off of being knocked out and drunk, and that was just one short CSB account, so perhaps he did sign a consent form and either doesn't remember doing it or didn't relay it to us.
 
2013-08-26 09:16:17 PM

meanmutton: Gyrfalcon: andynz81: You seem rather well versed in New Zealand law for someone in Los Angeles.


They have the legal concept of false imprisonment in new zealand.
 
2013-08-26 09:16:31 PM
Prom queen princess gets stumbling down drunk on the very first weekend she gets to campus?  Yeah, I bet she had a bright future ahead of her.

/and by bright, I mean strobe lights in a strip club.
 
2013-08-26 09:18:31 PM

meanmutton: Gyrfalcon: andynz81: farkingismybusiness: Head injuries are serious business. I had one one time. Doctors were impressed with how much brain damage I didn't have.

I was once knocked out late one night whilst very, very drunk after getting jumped for my cellphone. When I came to in an alleyway, there were the flashing lights of an ambulance above me, and then the face of the paramedic who simply said "yep, looks like your nose is broken, want to go to hospital?" still very very drunk I simply shook my head, got up, and stumbled back to my hotel room (which ended up being plastered in my blood but that's a side story).

Still pisses me off to this day that they didn't take me to hospital to keep an eye on me. I was completely compliant and basically in their hands, and really don't understand their approach that night.

/that night taught me to fear and despise concussion
//and to not be so drunk that I can't take care of myself and make proper decisions
///was also the best man for a wedding I didn't believe in that night, really a shiat night all round

Because if you are an adult, and conscious, and refuse to go to the hospital, you cannot be made to go against your will. Doesn't matter if you are falling-down stumbling drunk and look like you've been fighting with a meat grinder--you can't be forced to go to a hospital. The cops could have arrested you; but very often unless you are SO wasted you look like you might die before you get home, the police will "give you a break" and let you stagger on home so you don't have an arrest on your record. Paramedics absolutely cannot just scoop you up and haul your drunken bleeding ass to the hospital unless you ask them to. It's called "false imprisonment" if they do, and only a cop can deprive you of your liberty without your consent.

Kind of sucks, but that's why they left you when you said you didn't want to go to the hospital.

You seem rather well versed in New Zealand law for someone in Los Angeles.


Oh, my bad, I guess in New Zealand they can drag people off the street willy-nilly and they'll never complain so long as it's for their own good.

And also where does he say he's in New Zealand? I missed that....
 
2013-08-26 09:20:36 PM

doglover: Oh noes, draconian do-gooder laws have the obvious effect on the children they're supposed to protect. Whatever shall we do!?!?!?


See, this is why no one likes you.

What does that even mean?
 
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