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(ESPN)   Mets fans: About that optimism for next season   (espn.go.com) divider line 43
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2013-08-26 05:27:43 PM  
As a Mets fan, I've given up optimism years ago.
 
2013-08-26 05:36:27 PM  

ManateeGag: As a Mets fan, I've given up optimism years ago.

 
2013-08-26 06:25:56 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: ManateeGag: As a Mets fan, I've given up optimism years ago.

 
2013-08-26 06:41:46 PM  
It might just, maybe, be time to start pointing out all this worrying about pitch counts and innings pitched isn't really doing any good and was never really the problem anyways.
 
2013-08-26 06:44:43 PM  
fark.
 
2013-08-26 06:48:16 PM  
If your hopes hinge on a single player, you never had a chance in the first place.
 
2013-08-26 06:50:03 PM  
Sigh Young.
 
2013-08-26 07:00:19 PM  
As a Braves fan... good,
 
2013-08-26 07:10:28 PM  
As a Phillies fan, that sucks.
 
2013-08-26 07:42:32 PM  
I got this message from my brother today, "I am going to throw up."  I wasnt able to ask what he was talking about.  I heard the news when I got home and it all make sense.

Lost Thought 00: If your hopes hinge on a single player, you never had a chance in the first place.


They dont but he is their best player and his elbow is farked.  Not good.
 
2013-08-26 07:52:28 PM  

Gunny Highway: I got this message from my brother today, "I am going to throw up."  I wasnt able to ask what he was talking about.  I heard the news when I got home and it all make sense.

Lost Thought 00: If your hopes hinge on a single player, you never had a chance in the first place.

They dont but he is their best player and his elbow is farked.  Not good.


I'm trying to tell myself that given his 93mph slider, this was inevitable, and that it's best to get it out of the way now.
 
2013-08-26 08:25:10 PM  

Kelwen: As a Braves fan... good,


This!
 
2013-08-26 08:35:07 PM  

uncleacid: Sigh Young.


He wasn't winning it over Kershaw anyways.
 
2013-08-26 08:38:22 PM  
I see this kind of bad luck, and all I can think of is how many trucks full of cash it's going to take to sign Max Scherzer...
 
2013-08-26 08:40:56 PM  

Kelwen: As a Braves fan... good,


I almost feel sorry for them...Almost...
 
2013-08-26 08:42:08 PM  

Lost Thought 00: If your hopes hinge on a single player, you never had a chance in the first place.


When you say "hopes," you do realize that for Mets fans, "hopes" means being the great champions of third place in the NL East?  We had a shot, damn it!
 
2013-08-26 08:53:29 PM  
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2013-08-26 09:07:30 PM  
It sucks for baseball as a whole when young stars get hurt.
 
2013-08-26 09:11:05 PM  
I actually did have optimism for next year...what was I thinking? Of course Matt Harvey would need Tommy John surgery.
 
2013-08-26 09:15:14 PM  

mrjared: I actually did have optimism for next year...what was I thinking? Of course Matt Harvey would need Tommy John surgery.


Not necessarily. Last report I heard it was only a 30% tear, which can be rehabbed through. If he doesn't need surgery, he can be ready for spring training.
 
2013-08-26 09:25:16 PM  
So apparently braves fans are assholes. Who knew?

I hope he pulls off a full recovery, but we won't even know until 2015. If he needs tj that is.
 
2013-08-26 09:39:51 PM  
So the Yankees will have to wait a few more years to throw money at him?
 
2013-08-26 11:25:49 PM  

thecpt: So apparently braves fans are assholes. Who knew?

I hope he pulls off a full recovery, but we won't even know until 2015. If he needs tj that is.


Assholes, no
Vindictive, absolutely
/that's for J-Hey
 
2013-08-26 11:29:46 PM  

Kelwen: thecpt: So apparently braves fans are assholes. Who knew?

I hope he pulls off a full recovery, but we won't even know until 2015. If he needs tj that is.

Assholes, no
Vindictive, absolutely
/that's for J-Hey


Ah, so you don't know how baseball works.  Cool.  Got it.

/If a hitter dives forwards by a foot and gets hit in the head, it's because he misread the pitch and thought it was a curveball.
//Pitchers don't throw at players' heads when they're working their way back from a shoulder tear for no apparent reason in a tie game.
 
2013-08-26 11:49:17 PM  
That's brutal. Get well soon, Shockingly Good Mets Player.
 
2013-08-27 12:47:09 AM  

The Bestest: mrjared: I actually did have optimism for next year...what was I thinking? Of course Matt Harvey would need Tommy John surgery.

Not necessarily. Last report I heard it was only a 30% tear, which can be rehabbed through. If he doesn't need surgery, he can be ready for spring training.


Most partial tears wind up needing surgery anyway, so either you do it now or mid season next year and wind up killing his comeback to 2016.
 
2013-08-27 01:00:44 AM  
Somebody better investigate that Tommy John character; he must be totally exhausted
 
2013-08-27 01:55:08 AM  
This man needs a performance enhancing tendon for his elbow.

That sucks, Mets fans. As a Royals fan, I know what it's like when your team sucks and your only solace is getting to watch a brilliant young pitcher work every fifth day.

Hope he recovers quickly.
 
2013-08-27 07:53:28 AM  

WhyteRaven74: It might just, maybe, be time to start pointing out all this worrying about pitch counts and innings pitched isn't really doing any good and was never really the problem anyways.


Nolan Ryan has been saying it for a while now.  If people like Rizzo won't listen to him, then you and I and whoever else says it won't matter either.

As long as Rizzo is in charge in Washington, that team cannot lose enough for me.
 
2013-08-27 07:54:50 AM  

Pimparoo: This man needs a performance enhancing tendon for his elbow.

That sucks, Mets fans. As a Royals fan, I know what it's like when your team sucks and your only solace is getting to watch a brilliant young pitcher work every fifth day.

Hope he recovers quickly.


:(

I'll miss Happy Harvey Day ... until 2015!
 
2013-08-27 08:44:58 AM  

Kelwen: thecpt: So apparently braves fans are assholes. Who knew?

I hope he pulls off a full recovery, but we won't even know until 2015. If he needs tj that is.

Assholes, no
Vindictive, absolutely
/that's for J-Hey


So you're assholes AND idiots?
 
2013-08-27 09:12:14 AM  

mrjared: I actually did have optimism for next year...what was I thinking? Of course Matt Harvey would need Tommy John surgery.


I had optimism for this year as an Atlanta fan, then the AA Mets played us a few times and injured half our team.

/and screw you d-bags mets fans
 
2013-08-27 09:16:14 AM  
Oriole fans feel your pain.

Dylan Bundy eta. August, 2014.
 
2013-08-27 09:19:57 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: ManateeGag: As a Mets fan, I've given up optimism years ago.


I see this has been covered by the Fark Mets brigade. Definitely sucks to lose Harvey for the season, but if you're a Mets fan "optimism" isn't part of our regular vocabulary during the baseball season. "Optimism" only happens when the ball goes through Bill Bucker's legs.
 
2013-08-27 10:29:24 AM  

Gunny Highway: I got this message from my brother today, "I am going to throw up."  I wasnt able to ask what he was talking about.  I heard the news when I got home and it all make sense.

Lost Thought 00: If your hopes hinge on a single player, you never had a chance in the first place.

They dont but he is their best player and his elbow is farked.  Not good.


It's a helluva choice to make:  No surgery, hope R and R and PT heal it and run the risk of a complete tear, but in the meanwhile you'll be in ST in 2014 or TJ surgery and get ready for ST in 2015...but Met fans will commit harakiri.

Since Met fans are already committing harakiri, might as well do the surgery and get ready for 2015.
 
2013-08-27 10:31:56 AM  

The Bestest: mrjared: I actually did have optimism for next year...what was I thinking? Of course Matt Harvey would need Tommy John surgery.

Not necessarily. Last report I heard it was only a 30% tear, which can be rehabbed through. If he doesn't need surgery, he can be ready for spring training.


Yeah, but do you really want to run that risk?  That thought running through his head might just screw up his mechanics and create bigger long-term problems.

Might as well get the surgery now and save himself the headache.
 
2013-08-27 11:15:20 AM  

WhyteRaven74: It might just, maybe, be time to start pointing out all this worrying about pitch counts and innings pitched isn't really doing any good and was never really the problem anyways


Or maybe doing it doesn't make up for being overworked in the past.  Dude definitely was overworked in some college games, including one where he threw I believe 157 pitches.  Who knows what his high school and travel team coaches did with him before college.

At some level though, pitching is just an unnatural motion.  I'm not sure anyone's going to be able to accurately predict injury or lack thereof based solely on mechanics.  Pitchers are just going to get hurt, and you can try to manage it as best you can.
 
2013-08-27 11:31:32 AM  

GQueue: WhyteRaven74: It might just, maybe, be time to start pointing out all this worrying about pitch counts and innings pitched isn't really doing any good and was never really the problem anyways

Or maybe doing it doesn't make up for being overworked in the past.  Dude definitely was overworked in some college games, including one where he threw I believe 157 pitches.  Who knows what his high school and travel team coaches did with him before college.

At some level though, pitching is just an unnatural motion.  I'm not sure anyone's going to be able to accurately predict injury or lack thereof based solely on mechanics.  Pitchers are just going to get hurt, and you can try to manage it as best you can.


Its mechanical more than anything. With good pitching mechanics, injuries are minimal. The goal is to minimize the amount of strain on the elbow and shoulder by using your legs more than arms.

Usually bigger guys that use their arms more (Broxton, Wainright, Garcia) have more trouble than a guy who uses legs and keeps the arm usage to a minimum (Lee, Ryan, Maddux).
 
2013-08-27 12:53:54 PM  

Dafatone: Kelwen: thecpt: So apparently braves fans are assholes. Who knew?

I hope he pulls off a full recovery, but we won't even know until 2015. If he needs tj that is.

Assholes, no
Vindictive, absolutely
/that's for J-Hey

Ah, so you don't know how baseball works.  Cool.  Got it.

/If a hitter dives forwards by a foot and gets hit in the head, it's because he misread the pitch and thought it was a curveball.
//Pitchers don't throw at players' heads when they're working their way back from a shoulder tear for no apparent reason in a tie game.


I am absolutly aware how the game works and have no belief that any of the injuries were due to intentional acts. I can enjoy the slight feeling of satisfaction when a team directly responsible for the loss of two top end players feels the disappointment we do, regardless of place in the standings.
 
2013-08-27 01:26:58 PM  

Kelwen: Dafatone: Kelwen: thecpt: So apparently braves fans are assholes. Who knew?

I hope he pulls off a full recovery, but we won't even know until 2015. If he needs tj that is.

Assholes, no
Vindictive, absolutely
/that's for J-Hey

Ah, so you don't know how baseball works.  Cool.  Got it.

/If a hitter dives forwards by a foot and gets hit in the head, it's because he misread the pitch and thought it was a curveball.
//Pitchers don't throw at players' heads when they're working their way back from a shoulder tear for no apparent reason in a tie game.

I am absolutly aware how the game works and have no belief that any of the injuries were due to intentional acts. I can enjoy the slight feeling of satisfaction when a team directly responsible for the loss of two top end players feels the disappointment we do, regardless of place in the standings.


Sure, you're welcome to enjoy it.  Just don't deny that it makes you an asshole.
 
2013-08-27 03:24:05 PM  

Dafatone: Kelwen: Dafatone: Kelwen: thecpt: So apparently braves fans are assholes. Who knew?

I hope he pulls off a full recovery, but we won't even know until 2015. If he needs tj that is.

Assholes, no
Vindictive, absolutely
/that's for J-Hey

Ah, so you don't know how baseball works.  Cool.  Got it.

/If a hitter dives forwards by a foot and gets hit in the head, it's because he misread the pitch and thought it was a curveball.
//Pitchers don't throw at players' heads when they're working their way back from a shoulder tear for no apparent reason in a tie game.

I am absolutly aware how the game works and have no belief that any of the injuries were due to intentional acts. I can enjoy the slight feeling of satisfaction when a team directly responsible for the loss of two top end players feels the disappointment we do, regardless of place in the standings.

Sure, you're welcome to enjoy it.  Just don't deny that it makes you an asshole.


We are sports fans, we are all assholes. If you say you have never relished in the misfortune of a rival, you are an asshole and a liar.
 
2013-08-27 04:54:54 PM  

Dafatone: Sure, you're welcome to enjoy it. Just don't deny that it makes you an asshole.


I think mets and braves fans both revel in each others failures, it goes back to their fans changing LAAAAAAaaaarrrrry..... when he was spanking them up in shea, its why we find it so funny that he named his kid Shea, I hope they grow up and sign with the braves to torture another mets generation of fans.
 
2013-08-27 05:25:22 PM  

steamingpile: Dafatone: Sure, you're welcome to enjoy it. Just don't deny that it makes you an asshole.

I think mets and braves fans both revel in each others failures, it goes back to their fans changing LAAAAAAaaaarrrrry..... when he was spanking them up in shea, its why we find it so funny that he named his kid Shea, I hope they grow up and sign with the braves to torture another mets generation of fans.


My dream is that, after singlehandedly beating the Braves in the NLCS, David Wright names his son Turner.

I'm all for reveling in failures.  Being glad someone's hurt crosses a line, to me.  Exception, maybe, for a guy that's a definite and clear asshole.  Carl Everett, John Rocker, etc.

/I was at the game where Tim Hudson got hurt.  I'll admit the Mets fan who started a tomahawk chop chant when it happened was hilarious, but I'll also admit that he's an asshole.
 
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