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2013-08-26 07:40:18 PM

Grandmaster_Slapnuts: [850x478 from http://rstvideo.com/trailer/files/2011/10/team-america-world-police2.j pg image 850x478]

Comin' again to save the mother-farkin' day.

/hot


About time
 
2013-08-26 07:42:05 PM
A total crock of shiat and a complete lie.
 
2013-08-26 07:43:50 PM
Maybe we should send Kerry to go check. Go Kerry, go go go.
 
2013-08-26 07:44:03 PM

Kit Fister: 21-7-b: BMFPitt: I'm just waiting to post the headline, "Obama has been nearly identical to Bush in many areas, but at least he hasn't started multiple wars."

Obama seems to finish wars rather than start them, but whatever

To be fair, he really hasn't faced an opportunity that would really have put him to the test in that regard. He inherited two police actions and a shiatload of poor decisions from his predecessor, and other than using some bombs in Libya where no real intervention was needed, we haven't seen a case where it was even remotely justified.

The true test here is to see whether Obama follows in Bush's footsteps and declares that because WMDs, we must invade; or whether he decides that the political fallout from spearheading yet another intervention would only put one of the last nails in the US's coffin and thus stay the fark out of it unless or until the UN as a whole chose to act with military force -- and even then, hopefully opts to donate a few bombs, some jet fuel, and real-world ordnance delivery training of pilots to the cause instead of boots on the ground.

/holy shiat, I'm turning into a democrat.
//god help me.


You're going to have to see past the UN. Did you read the link i posted for you?
 
2013-08-26 07:46:38 PM

pacified: cman: karmaceutical: Is this the thread where garden variety Fark conserva-trolls pretend to be against this sort of thing?

This is the thread in which conservatives and liberals of all sort band together for the greater good

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I think the sane people on both sides of the aisle have figured out that the only thing that comes from trying to get involved in the middle east is pain, suffering, and death, only to be further bled dry by the oil barons. 'Tis truly a cursed place, and one best left to rot.

/i propose we compromise with the Palestinians and just give Florida to the Israelis. Win-Win for everyone.
 
2013-08-26 07:46:53 PM

dr_blasto: Lt. Cheese Weasel: dr_blasto: OK, then. I guess I'll just stick with what we actually have evidence to support.

Sure, facts. *chortle*......It is a fact nothing was found in Iraq. It is also a fact a large convoy of trucks left Iraq and went to Syria as we ginned up the invasion. I'm sure it was just food and t-shirts. I can't ask you to prove a negative, I only have my suspicions and some extremely interesting coincidences. It's ok, call me a nut. I don't care.  The Sarin came from somewhere, close. That is also a fact.

Sarin has a shelf life measured in weeks.


That's why it is stored as a binary weapon-- the two parts are mixed only when it is to be deployed.
 
2013-08-26 07:48:09 PM
They've been spreading this bullshiat about Syria for weeks now, trying as hard as they can to get everyone fired up about something. They made up this shiat about chemical weapons to get the people riled the same exact way they lied about WMDs. We bought it then, should we really buy it now? They're LYING to us. They're chomping at the bit to invade Syria, any chance they can get. It's all lies. Do NOT believe it. I have no idea what they WANT in Syria, but the fact is, they're going no matter what the reason. I'm so sick of this bullshiat. I saw it coming WEEKS ago.
 
2013-08-26 07:48:21 PM

21-7-b: You're going to have to see past the UN. Did you read the link i posted for you?


i did, and I'm not sure what relevance it has to the proposition of just staying the hell out of the entire region?
 
2013-08-26 07:50:36 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: They didn't make it. And Putin didn't give it to them. Neither did Iran.


Presenting facts not in evidence.
 
2013-08-26 07:51:43 PM

bwilson27: They've been spreading this bullshiat about Syria for weeks now, trying as hard as they can to get everyone fired up about something. They made up this shiat about chemical weapons to get the people riled the same exact way they lied about WMDs. We bought it then, should we really buy it now? They're LYING to us. They're chomping at the bit to invade Syria, any chance they can get. It's all lies. Do NOT believe it. I have no idea what they WANT in Syria, but the fact is, they're going no matter what the reason. I'm so sick of this bullshiat. I saw it coming WEEKS ago.


Oh no, I don't think they're Lying to us, I don't see what benefit it gets them when they know that acting against the ally of two major powers (and one which owns most of the US's debt and an increasing portion of our business interests) and I doubt they're so foolish as to believe that neither of Syria's biggest allies will get involved if we just scream WMDs as lout as we can before we rush in.

I think it's very likely someone somewhere in Syria let off some chemical weapons.

I just don't think that the majority of the people -- or the President -- have the stomach to run full-tilt into another war, despite what the goons like Kerry are pushing. So far, Obama's kept himself out of the scrum of people calling for us to go military on Syria, and for that he's earned just a little bit of respect from me.
 
2013-08-26 07:56:32 PM
Hey, why so Syrious?
 
2013-08-26 07:56:35 PM
Anyone who doesn't want us to bomb needs to be wishing Obama never made any of those red line speeches.  Now we have to bomb or else we lose credibility.  if we lose credibility, then anybody can use chemical weapons on whomever they want, because who's gonna stop them?  If not the US, then no one will...

Syria has called our bluff, and now the bombs need to fall.
 
2013-08-26 07:58:48 PM

Lost Thought 00: Disgruntled Goat: And if it turns out that the rebels also used them...?

The UN (backed by the US), should be enforcing a mandatory ceasefire on both sides, and killing any who don't comply.


And just how the fark is that supposed to ever happen in a world where Russia has veto power on the UN and happens to be supporting the Assad regiem?
 
2013-08-26 07:59:11 PM
If we start bombing now Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and General Dynamics profit margins should look pretty phat by October.  Also they will be able to report some healthy projected earnings for the coming year.
 
2013-08-26 07:59:23 PM

2wolves: Lt. Cheese Weasel: They didn't make it. And Putin didn't give it to them. Neither did Iran.

Presenting facts not in evidence.


Lt Cheese Weasel, let me spell it out for you:

A lot of nations have or can produce the type of chemical weapons supposedly used in Syria. Saddam supposedly had such weapons, but we never found any proof of them, just piles of old, inert, useless scrap that once had been.  Syria has such weapons, and is allied with a lot of nations which produce and/or could procure them.

Since we have yet to find hard, hands-on evidence of the source of these weapons, and since we really only have some second hand documentation on the attack, we don't have enough information to even say that Assad was the one responsible for it, let alone where he might have gotten the weapons. It's not like we're in a position to go all CSI on it, if we could even determine from any remaining traces where the chemical was made. Maybe if we were talking about something a little more complicated than an easily homemade substance, like, say, a particular strain of Smallpox or Anthrax or something, we might have a chance at tracing it back to a lab where it was grown. But, far as I know, Sarin is a pretty simple gas to produce in a simple lab.

/Disclaimer for the NSA: I am not, nor I have ever studied the production of any chemical, biological, or radiological agents for tactical delivery, nor have i any interest in further speculation or research on the ability to produce same. I am a simple meat popsicle.
 
2013-08-26 08:00:22 PM

Apik0r0s: Mouser: By attacking Asad, Obama is basically signing their death warrant.

No, he's just executing the warrant that was signed in Tel Aviv and given to him by J Street.


Yes, the Jew is using the Black as muscle against me, got it.

You know, I'm not half as offended by your bigotry as I am by your ignorance of religious history.  Sunni and Shi'a Muslims have been killing each other in that part of the world for centuries before Zionism was even thought of.  If you'd bother to crack a book, you'd know this.

But no, all you and your brain-dead Stormfront buddies can come up with is "it's de ebbil j00z fault!"  It's pathetic, really.
 
2013-08-26 08:00:26 PM
Does Syria even HAVE oil??  Let's get our priorities straight here, people.

[X]  Humanitarian crisis

[  ]  Exploitable resource*

*The war will pay for itself, no joke!!
 
2013-08-26 08:00:45 PM

Maul555: Anyone who doesn't want us to bomb needs to be wishing Obama never made any of those red line speeches.  Now we have to bomb or else we lose credibility.  if we lose credibility, then anybody can use chemical weapons on whomever they want, because who's gonna stop them?  If not the US, then no one will...

Syria has called our bluff, and now the bombs need to fall.


No bombs need to fall. In fact, Bombs need to be farking eliminated altogether. This is NOT cowboys and Indians, it's the real world.
Take all your overgrown infants away, somewhere, and build them a home....
 
2013-08-26 08:02:18 PM

Maul555: Anyone who doesn't want us to bomb needs to be wishing Obama never made any of those red line speeches.  Now we have to bomb or else we lose credibility.  if we lose credibility, then anybody can use chemical weapons on whomever they want, because who's gonna stop them?  If not the US, then no one will...

Syria has called our bluff, and now the bombs need to fall.


In that region of the world, we already have zero credibility. I refer you to the previous Iraq campaign which hoodwinked the entire world and ended up with major egg all over our face, and our general behavior in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Lebanon, Israel, etc. etc. etc. going back decades.

So, basically, all we get out of it is even MORE crap if we go in guns blazing without taking a second to realize what exactly the outcome might be.
 
2013-08-26 08:06:31 PM
Please keep Kerry away from the big boys games. He almost sounds like he is parroting what Israel told him to say. Yes I know its Syria, but gotta expand the empire after Palestine is wiped out. Plus Israel has already attacked, so.... Bomb Israel in retaliation?

A unstable Middle East is best for manipulators of the people of the Middle East.

/Show us evidence of who actually used the stuff and we will do something that does not involve another 3 trillion dollars.
 
2013-08-26 08:07:24 PM

bwilson27: Maul555: Anyone who doesn't want us to bomb needs to be wishing Obama never made any of those red line speeches.  Now we have to bomb or else we lose credibility.  if we lose credibility, then anybody can use chemical weapons on whomever they want, because who's gonna stop them?  If not the US, then no one will...

Syria has called our bluff, and now the bombs need to fall.

No bombs need to fall. In fact, Bombs need to be farking eliminated altogether. This is NOT cowboys and Indians, it's the real world.
Take all your overgrown infants away, somewhere, and build them a home....


There may some day be a time when war is no longer needed, but we are far, far from that time.  I doubt that man will ever, without a major change to our species on the biological level, be completely free of violence or the baser natures that drive men like Hitler, Assad, etc. to do great evil to one another.  Hell, as long as humans continue to see differences of opinion as a reason to go to loud words and blows, or one neighbor finds reason to covet another's possessions, this kind of shiat will continue to happen.

All we can do is to actively prepare for peace while remaining vigilant and prepared to defend ourselves if necessary.
 
2013-08-26 08:10:42 PM
You  know what else is undeniable?

 i10.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-26 08:11:24 PM

Kit Fister: Maul555: Anyone who doesn't want us to bomb needs to be wishing Obama never made any of those red line speeches.  Now we have to bomb or else we lose credibility.  if we lose credibility, then anybody can use chemical weapons on whomever they want, because who's gonna stop them?  If not the US, then no one will...

Syria has called our bluff, and now the bombs need to fall.

In that region of the world, we already have zero credibility. I refer you to the previous Iraq campaign which hoodwinked the entire world and ended up with major egg all over our face, and our general behavior in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Lebanon, Israel, etc. etc. etc. going back decades.

So, basically, all we get out of it is even MORE crap if we go in guns blazing without taking a second to realize what exactly the outcome might be.


You think we don't have any credibility in the middle east?  We gained no new friends, but we have plenty of credibility.  One attack on new york brought 2 invasions and over a decade of war, with lots of bodies everywhere...  I think we have gained a kind of credibility...  The kind that says bad shiats gonna happen if you make us come over there...
 
2013-08-26 08:14:56 PM
Nobody, and I mean nobody, (especially not liberals) cares about Libya anymore - even though it's now a lawless jihadi war zone, more or less run by the Muslim Brotherhood.  However, it was useful for the dutiful state-media leading up to the last election, as it lasted months, not weeks.  'Operation Re-Election' created a lot of those neat commander-in-chief headlines that lead off the evening news (Slick Willy's 'Monica missiles' did the same thing).

Needless to say, there's no reporting on Libya anymore.

Syria will be useful in the exact same way.  The real budget fight is coming up in September.  The government has run out of money again and a large number of Republican lawmakers are refusing to pass a budget that funds Obamacare.

I would expect that the bombing will begin soon and will last as long as necessary for the state-media to remind the public that we must 'rally around the war-time president' and dispense with 'silly partisan bickering' when our troops are in harm's way.


/I WILL be proven right...
 
2013-08-26 08:16:12 PM

Daedalus27: Effects are seemingly overlooked and only the means of causing death are focused on.  Ultimately it doesn't matter how they are dying whether it is incinerated in a nuclear blast, poisoned by gas, or blown up in a artillery barrage, your just as dead either way.


So if the Ciberido Liberation Front were to kidnap you and decree your execution for crimes against Ciberidism, and the executioner gave you the choice of being shot in the head or burned at the stake, you'd just shrug and say, "Doesn't matter to me!  I'm just as dead either way.  Kill me any way you like."

And you think every single person who's ever died in war feels the same way, right?
 
2013-08-26 08:16:40 PM

Maul555: Kit Fister: Maul555: Anyone who doesn't want us to bomb needs to be wishing Obama never made any of those red line speeches.  Now we have to bomb or else we lose credibility.  if we lose credibility, then anybody can use chemical weapons on whomever they want, because who's gonna stop them?  If not the US, then no one will...

Syria has called our bluff, and now the bombs need to fall.

In that region of the world, we already have zero credibility. I refer you to the previous Iraq campaign which hoodwinked the entire world and ended up with major egg all over our face, and our general behavior in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Lebanon, Israel, etc. etc. etc. going back decades.

So, basically, all we get out of it is even MORE crap if we go in guns blazing without taking a second to realize what exactly the outcome might be.

You think we don't have any credibility in the middle east?  We gained no new friends, but we have plenty of credibility.  One attack on new york brought 2 invasions and over a decade of war, with lots of bodies everywhere...  I think we have gained a kind of credibility...  The kind that says bad shiats gonna happen if you make us come over there...


How's that workin out?
 
2013-08-26 08:19:46 PM

Giltric: Yeah...odds are we had assets in country for weeksdecades already.


ftfy
 
2013-08-26 08:20:11 PM
Such a bullshiat casus bellum.
Assad has won so now we need to liberate Syria's government into dust.
I miss being a kid and liking the idea of my country
 
2013-08-26 08:21:24 PM

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Maybe we should send Kerry to go check. Go Kerry, go go go.


Biden can drive his Trans Am there.
 
2013-08-26 08:22:28 PM

Neighborhood Watch: the bombing will begin soon


Or just skip the bombing and use those funds for keeping U.S. citizens healthy.
 
2013-08-26 08:24:00 PM

Kit Fister: 21-7-b: You're going to have to see past the UN. Did you read the link i posted for you?

i did, and I'm not sure what relevance it has to the proposition of just staying the hell out of the entire region?


I posted the link because you claimed to be ignorant of the role of al qaeda in syria. The link gives more information about that. You didn't comment on it and still don't seem to want to

However, as it happens, the link concludes:

These initial reactions do not bode well for Jabhat Nusra's continued popularity. This leaves a brief window through which other more secular opposition groups may be able to assert a counter-authority if they are able to demonstrate the same level of operational effectiveness as Jabhat Nusra. This effectiveness also extends to civilian governance, as Jabhat Nusra is now also competitive in this space as well. The U.S. alongside the larger international community should look to capitalize on the potential backlash and empower a force that will be able to compete with Jabhat Nusra. The recent announcements underscore the growing confidence of radical and jihadist elements fighting in Syria, and provide a glimpse of what could be the future for Syria if more is not done to cultivate a moderate alternative.


Which, as it turns out, should also inform your understanding of one part of the case for intervention. I suppose the reality is that it is just one more thing for you to ignore

The conflict has waged for two and a half years and yet you thought Iran was backing the rebels, who you thought were all Al Qaeda. You are obviously totally disinterested in the conflict and geopolitics - that seems irrefutable - and just want to ignore it. Why don't you just say that rather than acting as though you have anything to contribute beyond "I'm Kit Fister, I have no interest in Syria or world affairs, and I think America shouldn't get involved in these things." It's a perfectly legitimate position to hold
 
2013-08-26 08:24:10 PM
Fark libs that defend Obama on stuff like this, crack me up.  Bunch of farking hypocrites.  Not that I'm keeping score, but I've seen Obama defended on:

NSA spying on American citizens (It was Bush)
Drone strikes on American citizens (they had it coming)
Raiding more medical marijuana facilities than 8 years of  Bush (he was only enforcing the law never mind that he's issued a memo skirting the laws on immigration).
Use of Military in Libya without Congressional approval (it wasn't war!)
And now he's beating the war drum and you're gleefully beating it with him.
Going after whistleblowers (dirty traitors).

I really hate the GOP but liberals folding like a deck of cards on principles I used to think were important to you...piss me off as much as the GOP now.  You have no principles that are sacred anymore.  Stop justifying it because it's YOUR guy.
 
2013-08-26 08:25:03 PM
Knock knock...

Who's there?

www.photoandwallpapers.com
 FREEDOM.
 
2013-08-26 08:30:41 PM

Brontes: Nobel Peace prizes don't earn themselves


Winner.

Though, I honestly would have gone with:
Economies don't jump-start themselves without a good war...
 
2013-08-26 08:35:04 PM
How about we just sit this one out.  I mean completely sit it out.  Don't supply arms to either side.  Don't send a missle against anyone.  Don't even condemn anyone.  Do fark all nothing.  When asked about it, our only response is, "not our problem."

Because every time we try to help we end up with a bunch of major assholes in power who hate us so much that they supply bombs to terrorists to use against us.  Fark 'em.  Let them kill each other off, then maybe someone more peaceful will move into the now empty county.
 
2013-08-26 08:36:11 PM

21-7-b: Kit Fister: 21-7-b: You're going to have to see past the UN. Did you read the link i posted for you?

i did, and I'm not sure what relevance it has to the proposition of just staying the hell out of the entire region?

I posted the link because you claimed to be ignorant of the role of al qaeda in syria. The link gives more information about that. You didn't comment on it and still don't seem to want to

However, as it happens, the link concludes:

These initial reactions do not bode well for Jabhat Nusra's continued popularity. This leaves a brief window through which other more secular opposition groups may be able to assert a counter-authority if they are able to demonstrate the same level of operational effectiveness as Jabhat Nusra. This effectiveness also extends to civilian governance, as Jabhat Nusra is now also competitive in this space as well. The U.S. alongside the larger international community should look to capitalize on the potential backlash and empower a force that will be able to compete with Jabhat Nusra. The recent announcements underscore the growing confidence of radical and jihadist elements fighting in Syria, and provide a glimpse of what could be the future for Syria if more is not done to cultivate a moderate alternative.

Which, as it turns out, should also inform your understanding of one part of the case for intervention. I suppose the reality is that it is just one more thing for you to ignore

The conflict has waged for two and a half years and yet you thought Iran was backing the rebels, who you thought were all Al Qaeda. You are obviously totally disinterested in the conflict and geopolitics - that seems irrefutable - and just want to ignore it. Why don't you just say that rather than acting as though you have anything to contribute beyond "I'm Kit Fister, I have no interest in Syria or world affairs, and I think America shouldn't get involved in these things." It's a perfectly legitimate position to hold


Fair enough. My question to you, then, is whether it is worth the lives and treasure for us to go in and support the rebels, ensuring this group is taken care of as well, or is it more important that the US remain out of it for the well being of our nation?

I am disinterested in this conflict, and even more so know a lot of soldiers farked up by our last wars who are the human face of what happens when you attack for no good reason.

In this case, I don't think our intervention, outside of as part of a UN force perhaps, is worth the cost for us.

Then again, this whole thing is shaping up to be everything we said Iraq was. So, maybe I'm wrong.
 
2013-08-26 08:36:12 PM

bwilson27: Maul555: Anyone who doesn't want us to bomb needs to be wishing Obama never made any of those red line speeches.  Now we have to bomb or else we lose credibility.  if we lose credibility, then anybody can use chemical weapons on whomever they want, because who's gonna stop them?  If not the US, then no one will...

Syria has called our bluff, and now the bombs need to fall.

No bombs need to fall. In fact, Bombs need to be farking eliminated altogether. This is NOT cowboys and Indians, it's the real world.
Take all your overgrown infants away, somewhere, and build them a home....


It's funny that you comment that this is the real world, but in the same thought talk about how bombs need to be eliminated altogether.  Cuz...that's the real world?
 
2013-08-26 08:38:08 PM

Maul555: Anyone who doesn't want us to bomb needs to be wishing Obama never made any of those red line speeches.  Now we have to bomb or else we lose credibility.  if we lose credibility, then anybody can use chemical weapons on whomever they want, because who's gonna stop them?  If not the US, then no one will...

Syria has called our bluff, and now the bombs need to fall.


4.bp.blogspot.com
Syria, when the bombs fell.
 
2013-08-26 08:42:12 PM

Maul555: Lost Thought 00: Disgruntled Goat: And if it turns out that the rebels also used them...?

The UN (backed by the US), should be enforcing a mandatory ceasefire on both sides, and killing any who don't comply.

And just how the fark is that supposed to ever happen in a world where Russia has veto power on the UN and happens to be supporting the Assad regiem?


You bribe Russia, obviously
 
2013-08-26 08:42:34 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-26 08:42:41 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-26 08:44:33 PM
 
2013-08-26 08:49:09 PM

OgreMagi: How about we just sit this one out.  I mean completely sit it out.  Don't supply arms to either side.  Don't send a missle against anyone.  Don't even condemn anyone.  Do fark all nothing.



Too late.  Our precious little king has already decreed that 'Assad has to go'.The CIA is already arming and training the 'rebels', including Al Qaeda (shhhh... that's a phony scandal, so don't tell anybody).  Red line after red line has been drawn in both Syria and Iran - and both are gleefully hopping over them with mocking laughter.

And as any rodeo clown can tell you, our precious little king does not like to be laughed at...
 
2013-08-26 08:54:53 PM

Neighborhood Watch: Nobody, and I mean nobody, (especially not liberals) cares about Libya anymore - even though it's now a lawless jihadi war zone, more or less run by the Muslim Brotherhood.  However, it was useful for the dutiful state-media leading up to the last election, as it lasted months, not weeks.  'Operation Re-Election' created a lot of those neat commander-in-chief headlines that lead off the evening news (Slick Willy's 'Monica missiles' did the same thing).

Needless to say, there's no reporting on Libya anymore.

Syria will be useful in the exact same way.  The real budget fight is coming up in September.  The government has run out of money again and a large number of Republican lawmakers are refusing to pass a budget that funds Obamacare.

I would expect that the bombing will begin soon and will last as long as necessary for the state-media to remind the public that we must 'rally around the war-time president' and dispense with 'silly partisan bickering' when our troops are in harm's way.


/I WILL be proven right...


I would expect that your death will be from auto-erotic asphyxiation while looking at a collage of Ayn Rand and Ronald Reagan press clippings.

/I will be just as right as you.
 
2013-08-26 08:59:23 PM

2wolves: Lt. Cheese Weasel: They didn't make it. And Putin didn't give it to them. Neither did Iran.

Presenting facts not in evidence.


You mean like Bush going after Iraq to bulge his pocketbook? Sure....
 
2013-08-26 09:01:20 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 2wolves: Lt. Cheese Weasel: They didn't make it. And Putin didn't give it to them. Neither did Iran.

Presenting facts not in evidence.

You mean like Bush going after Iraq to bulge his pocketbook? Sure....


You continue to try to change the subject.

Have a nice day.
 
2013-08-26 09:01:39 PM
Is this the thread where all the Obamabots say "YES! LET'S GO" and all the teaparty patriots call Obama a warmongering baby killer?
 
2013-08-26 09:01:39 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 2wolves: Lt. Cheese Weasel: They didn't make it. And Putin didn't give it to them. Neither did Iran.

Presenting facts not in evidence.

You mean like Bush going after Iraq to bulge his pocketbook? Sure....


Hmmm I guess its true that an abundance of weed does make you paranoid.
 
2013-08-26 09:06:48 PM

Heron: SithLord: TuteTibiImperes: As long as we limit ourselves to air and missile strikes only we should be able to handle this quickly.  If we try to put boots on the ground and built a government over there we'll be looking at another Iraq.

Do CIA Assets and Spec Ops count as boots on the ground?

I seem to recall a story revealing  CIA "trainers" working with the rebels coming out 6 months to a year ago, but that could be my brain making crap up. Too lazy to check the intertubes :p



How about  a report from this past week?

Jerusalem Post

Report: Syrian rebel forces trained by West are moving towards Damascus

QUOTES:

"Guerrilla fighters trained by the West began moving towards Damascus in mid-August, French newspaper Le Figaro reported on Thursday.

Le Figaro reported that this is the reason behind the Assad regime's alleged chemical weapons attack in Damascus on Wednesday morning, as UN inspectors were allowed into the country to investigate allegations of WMD use.

"The rebels were trained for several months in a training camp on the Jordanian-Syrian border by CIA operatives, as well as Jordanian and Israeli commandos, the paper said.

"The first group of 300 handpicked Free Syrian Army soldiers crossed the border on August 17 into the Deraa region, and a second group was deployed on August 19, the paper reported.

END QUOTES

Gather 'round, kids! It's Amos' Famous CONSPIRACY THEORY TIME!!!

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 Note the dates?

CIA and Mossad trained operatives depart the Syrian/Jordan border on August 17th and 19th, headed toward DAMASCUS.

COINCIDENTALLY, a massive chemical weapon is detonated on August 21, on the outskirts of where? DAMASCUS.

AND CURIOUSLY the US and Israel seemed to know IMMEDIATELY that there HAD been a CW attack, AND blamed AssadCo.


Now, don't get me wrong, I'm NOT sayin' that this was necessarily a "false-flag" attacked designed to set up a US invasion of Syria!

All I'm sayin' is, that if it WAS a false flag attack, we have a pretty good idea of who MIGHT have had SOMETHING to do with pulling it off.

Don't ya think???


/God Bless us, EVERY ONE!
 
2013-08-26 09:07:11 PM

Savage Belief: Is this the thread where all the Obamabots say "YES! LET'S GO" and all the teaparty patriots call Obama a warmongering baby killer?


No, I think this is the thread where every sane person sits down and soberly admits to the rrealities of war and truly weighs the costs. Before A-stan and Iraq II, we only knew, dimly, war as a fun exercise of sport during Iraq I, since we weren't heavily participating in Serbia and Blackhawk down was just a movie to most people. We didn't get that war is neither fun nor worthwhile save for the most extreme of circumstances.

We can go balls out into Syria but I believe it would be ill advised and demands a much greater sense of tact on our part.
 
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