If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Fox News)   You know who else advocated attacking a country because they used WMDs on their own people?   (foxnews.com) divider line 485
    More: News, Secretary of State John Kerry, WMDs, chemical weapons, Buck McKeon, military plans, White House Press Secretary  
•       •       •

19512 clicks; posted to Main » on 26 Aug 2013 at 4:48 PM (33 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



485 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-08-26 06:58:35 PM

Captain Steroid: This is going to suck. >_<


We are a few sternly worded letters away from any action, at the least
 
2013-08-26 06:59:49 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: They didn't make it.


[[ citation needed ]]
 
2013-08-26 07:00:07 PM

21-7-b: That's true, but the bottom line is that America is the top dog.


Of what?  Freeing the shiat out of people?
 
2013-08-26 07:00:52 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Al Qaeda is using the uprising to further its own agenda. We need to ensure that our actions don't further their agenda. Done right, though, weakening Assad can also weaken Al Qaeda

Well now, there is the crux of the biscuit. The rebellion is clearly aligned to AQ. There is no doubt of that.  Assad is propped by Pooty Poot and Iran. 'Done right' in this case = doing nothing.  We can hope the rebels get in a few licks and take Assad out. And some other hat in the Syrian Military takes over and squashes the rebels and can appease the Islamo nutters long enough for some back room bargains. Sadly, our bargainer is Obama and he's not good at this.  Putin is. It's not like we held any sway before in Syria, but maybe the russians can talk some sense to these idiots.  Iran is basically checked by Israel. If Iran does anything outwardly agressive, the Jews will crash that crap, and Putin knows he can do nothing outwardly agressive about it.  Proxy v Proxy....

What does "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" mean?

Gee, too confusing huh? The rebellion is being led by factions/tribes that are sympathetic to Al Queda and their desire to restore the Caliphate by bringing about the 12th Imam.
Read this.


Well, I thought i thought that anyone with a passing knowledge understood that the Al Qaeda element came late to the Syrian party and that their contingent is pretty small, eg Al Nusra - Strength 6,000 compared to Free Syrian Army - a separate entity - Size 80,000. So, I am confused as to what you meant by "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" ?
 
2013-08-26 07:01:35 PM

russsssman: Neither did the Holocaust. We shoulda just let the Jews figure it out, down to the last one.


Oh, is that why we entered WW2?
 
2013-08-26 07:01:35 PM

Lost Thought 00: Captain Steroid: This is going to suck. >_<

We are a few sternly worded letters away from any action, at the least


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
'Now go away, or we shall taunt you for the second time!'
 
2013-08-26 07:03:14 PM

dr_blasto: OK, then. I guess I'll just stick with what we actually have evidence to support.


Sure, facts. *chortle*......It is a fact nothing was found in Iraq. It is also a fact a large convoy of trucks left Iraq and went to Syria as we ginned up the invasion. I'm sure it was just food and t-shirts. I can't ask you to prove a negative, I only have my suspicions and some extremely interesting coincidences. It's ok, call me a nut. I don't care.  The Sarin came from somewhere, close. That is also a fact.
 
2013-08-26 07:04:20 PM

21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Al Qaeda is using the uprising to further its own agenda. We need to ensure that our actions don't further their agenda. Done right, though, weakening Assad can also weaken Al Qaeda

Well now, there is the crux of the biscuit. The rebellion is clearly aligned to AQ. There is no doubt of that.  Assad is propped by Pooty Poot and Iran. 'Done right' in this case = doing nothing.  We can hope the rebels get in a few licks and take Assad out. And some other hat in the Syrian Military takes over and squashes the rebels and can appease the Islamo nutters long enough for some back room bargains. Sadly, our bargainer is Obama and he's not good at this.  Putin is. It's not like we held any sway before in Syria, but maybe the russians can talk some sense to these idiots.  Iran is basically checked by Israel. If Iran does anything outwardly agressive, the Jews will crash that crap, and Putin knows he can do nothing outwardly agressive about it.  Proxy v Proxy....

What does "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" mean?

Gee, too confusing huh? The rebellion is being led by factions/tribes that are sympathetic to Al Queda and their desire to restore the Caliphate by bringing about the 12th Imam.
Read this.

Well, I thought i thought that anyone with a passing knowledge understood that the Al Qaeda element came late to the Syrian party and that their contingent is pretty small, eg Al Nusra - Strength 6,000 compared to Free Syrian Army - a separate entity - Size 80,000. So, I am confused as to what you meant by "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" ?


You've haven't read it yet, have you?
 
2013-08-26 07:04:26 PM

Daedalus27: Question:  Why is it different if a person is killed by poison gas compared with say, a rocket, a sniper shot, run over by a tank, or killed by a mine?

Far more people have been killed by conventional methods in this conflict, what is so magical in peoples mind about choking to death or having you nervous system shut down over a shot to the head or chest that bleeds you out?  Both are horrible ways to die, but the world is outraged about gas being used while bullets simply receive a shrug of shoulders. Civil wars are horrible things, but if the situation wasn't worthy our involvement two weeks ago, I simply don't see what makes things all that different this week.  If we are going to respond, it should be limited to minor strikes on CCCI sites and maybe his air force.  You absolutely don't want to target the chemical weapons themselves as that could release them and kill many individuals downwind.


Chemical weapons are banned because they tend to have more collateral damage than traditional weapons.  Targeting civilians is always against the rules of war, but it's understood that sometimes there will be civilian deaths when engaging legitimate military targets.  Chemical and biological agents are considered to put civilians at too high a risk however.
 
2013-08-26 07:06:27 PM

Ker_Thwap: As the kids like to say... LOL Kerry.


Heh, do the 'kids' even know who Kerry is? Wish I was joking.
 
2013-08-26 07:06:32 PM
Meet the new boss....
 
2013-08-26 07:08:07 PM

oldfarthenry: Yes - only a monster would poison-gas his citizens. Let's humanely bomb the f**k out of them instead!


I'm honestly dissapointed by the armchair generals and tin foilers here...Looking at the pictures of the WMD 'victims' the dead Syrians here do not at all exhibited common telltale signs of chemical weapon symptoms.

If anyone remember the pics of the Kurds that SH gassed back in the day those bodes were literally frozen in state..The frozen state that is well known for persons who die immediately of nerve poisoning(sarin) is absent, the persons suffering are described to have dilated pupils when sarin and most other nerve agents actually cause your pupils to constrict. I just did not see them here.
 
2013-08-26 07:09:24 PM

Radioactive Ass: 21-7-b: What does "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" mean?

It means that there are rebel forces who are openly aligned with Al Qaeda, and not just soldiers but their leaders. Link. This fact alone is enough for us to stay the hell out of it unless it's to kill a few rebels (I don't advocate doing that either but at least there would be some sense to it what with it being AQ related and all of that).


Your link had nothing to do with the point you were making, ou must have pasted the wrong url. Anyway, I'm sure there has at times been cooperation between the various groups but the reality is very different link
 
2013-08-26 07:09:49 PM
WMD has been redefined to include things like an M67 fragmentary grenade. We're all guilty of war crimes.
 
2013-08-26 07:10:55 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: It is also a fact a large convoy of trucks left Iraq and went to Syria as we ginned up the invasion. I'm sure it was just food and t-shirts. I can't ask you to prove a negative, I only have my suspicions and some extremely interesting coincidences.


lochgarry.files.wordpress.com

Then why did the Bush Administration shrug its' shoulders at Saddam's missing WMDs instead of shouting from the hills that they were all now in Syria?
 
2013-08-26 07:11:15 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Lt. Cheese Weasel: They didn't make it.

[[ citation needed ]]


Seriously, this. Sarin is an organophosphate (incecticide). Doesn't really take a whole lot of technology to produce....
 
2013-08-26 07:12:11 PM

cman: Apik0r0s: Then show us the proof! Or are you still too busy manufacturing it in some Tel Aviv basement office?

Remember the last time we went to war over WMDs in the mid-east?

AIPAC pays good money to keep your leaders on the string, it would be unfair were they to not earn that money by blowing a few thousand Syrian children into dust. They're just Arab animals, after all.


8/10

This will get a few bites


Naw, Apik0r0s is for real.

Unfortunately.
 
2013-08-26 07:13:23 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Al Qaeda is using the uprising to further its own agenda. We need to ensure that our actions don't further their agenda. Done right, though, weakening Assad can also weaken Al Qaeda

Well now, there is the crux of the biscuit. The rebellion is clearly aligned to AQ. There is no doubt of that.  Assad is propped by Pooty Poot and Iran. 'Done right' in this case = doing nothing.  We can hope the rebels get in a few licks and take Assad out. And some other hat in the Syrian Military takes over and squashes the rebels and can appease the Islamo nutters long enough for some back room bargains. Sadly, our bargainer is Obama and he's not good at this.  Putin is. It's not like we held any sway before in Syria, but maybe the russians can talk some sense to these idiots.  Iran is basically checked by Israel. If Iran does anything outwardly agressive, the Jews will crash that crap, and Putin knows he can do nothing outwardly agressive about it.  Proxy v Proxy....

What does "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" mean?

Gee, too confusing huh? The rebellion is being led by factions/tribes that are sympathetic to Al Queda and their desire to restore the Caliphate by bringing about the 12th Imam.
Read this.

Well, I thought i thought that anyone with a passing knowledge understood that the Al Qaeda element came late to the Syrian party and that their contingent is pretty small, eg Al Nusra - Strength 6,000 compared to Free Syrian Army - a separate entity - Size 80,000. So, I am confused as to what you meant by "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" ?

You've haven't read it yet, have you?


Is that an admission that you were wrong?
 
2013-08-26 07:13:49 PM

Lost Thought 00: Captain Steroid: This is going to suck. >_<

We are a few sternly worded letters away from any action, at the least


I hope so. I'd really rather not have this turn into WWIII after we get involved against Assad leading China and Russia to get involved on Assad's side, and given the military prowess of some of our "allies", and the general feelings about us after the Spying thing, as well as 8 years of Bush, I'm not sure we could count on anyone but maybe Britain to back us up. Which means that, in all likelihood, despite possibly being technologically greater, we'd probably lose based on sheer numbers. Not to mention, you'd have the anti-American middle eastern factions piling on as well.

We're just not ready for another fight. We don't have the leadership or the resources to go toe to toe with a big force in a classic war for any length of time, not without some pretty big help from other nations...and really, besides China and Russia, who else is there? India?  They don't have the resources to go to war any more than we do. And herein lies the crux of our problem: We (and by we I mean Bush* and everyone who supported/mislead him depending on whom you believe the narrative from) blew a lot of the preparedness and fighting readiness by going on a campaign of liberation in Iraq and Afghanistan in a ham-fisted attempt to get "the terrorists". I was right there supporting it at the beginning.

Right now, considering the pace and dynamics of the battlefield something like Syria would involve if it turned into a bigger conflict (and unless Russia and China are all talk and no action, I don't see how they could not step in to support Assad along with the Iranians), I just don't see this as a winning proposition.  in fact, in my worst nightmares, it stars out as a simple depose-the-dictator-and-white-knight-for-the-rebellion and then turns into a giant escalation where our tactical choices go from which bombs to load onto the drones to how young do we want to draft and just how many nukes can we use without totally farking up the planet?

So, maybe a llot of this is paranoia, and maybe none of that will happen. But given our choices are the known of letting the two sides duke it out and stay the fark out of it or wading in like an idiot again with unpredictable results...god help me, let them kill each other and leave us out of it.
 
2013-08-26 07:13:57 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Lt. Cheese Weasel: It is also a fact a large convoy of trucks left Iraq and went to Syria as we ginned up the invasion. I'm sure it was just food and t-shirts. I can't ask you to prove a negative, I only have my suspicions and some extremely interesting coincidences.

[540x406 from http://lochgarry.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/stv.jpg image 540x406]

Then why did the Bush Administration shrug its' shoulders at Saddam's missing WMDs instead of shouting from the hills that they were all now in Syria?


You'll have to ask them. It's a fair query.
 
2013-08-26 07:13:59 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Daedalus27: Question:  Why is it different if a person is killed by poison gas compared with say, a rocket, a sniper shot, run over by a tank, or killed by a mine?

Far more people have been killed by conventional methods in this conflict, what is so magical in peoples mind about choking to death or having you nervous system shut down over a shot to the head or chest that bleeds you out?  Both are horrible ways to die, but the world is outraged about gas being used while bullets simply receive a shrug of shoulders. Civil wars are horrible things, but if the situation wasn't worthy our involvement two weeks ago, I simply don't see what makes things all that different this week.  If we are going to respond, it should be limited to minor strikes on CCCI sites and maybe his air force.  You absolutely don't want to target the chemical weapons themselves as that could release them and kill many individuals downwind.

Chemical weapons are banned because they tend to have more collateral damage than traditional weapons.  Targeting civilians is always against the rules of war, but it's understood that sometimes there will be civilian deaths when engaging legitimate military targets.  Chemical and biological agents are considered to put civilians at too high a risk however.


I understand the theory behind it, but then again this is a civil war where arguably the civilians are also a part of the rebellion and providing aid and comfort to his foes and if the rebels are firing from civilian areas, it can become a legitimate military target. Of course the use should be proportionate but this conflict has moved toward the WW2 concepts of total war. Sure it is a war crime, but to be tried they have to survive and with the present forces, chances are the loser is going to be killed by the victor so there is less of an incentive to hold back.

And again it goes back to the point where if I fire a scud into a rebel held area killing dozens and injuring many (an act that has occurred repeatedly during this conflict), there isn't much of any reaction anywhere.  But lob a few dozen chemical rounds causing similar death and destruction and suddenly everyone stands up and makes noise (maybe not this chemical attack, but the earlier one which resulted in fewer deaths).  Effects are seemingly overlooked and only the means of causing death are focused on.  Ultimately it doesn't matter how they are dying whether it is incinerated in a nuclear blast, poisoned by gas, or blown up in a artillery barrage, your just as dead either way.
 
2013-08-26 07:14:43 PM

21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Al Qaeda is using the uprising to further its own agenda. We need to ensure that our actions don't further their agenda. Done right, though, weakening Assad can also weaken Al Qaeda

Well now, there is the crux of the biscuit. The rebellion is clearly aligned to AQ. There is no doubt of that.  Assad is propped by Pooty Poot and Iran. 'Done right' in this case = doing nothing.  We can hope the rebels get in a few licks and take Assad out. And some other hat in the Syrian Military takes over and squashes the rebels and can appease the Islamo nutters long enough for some back room bargains. Sadly, our bargainer is Obama and he's not good at this.  Putin is. It's not like we held any sway before in Syria, but maybe the russians can talk some sense to these idiots.  Iran is basically checked by Israel. If Iran does anything outwardly agressive, the Jews will crash that crap, and Putin knows he can do nothing outwardly agressive about it.  Proxy v Proxy....

What does "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" mean?

Gee, too confusing huh? The rebellion is being led by factions/tribes that are sympathetic to Al Queda and their desire to restore the Caliphate by bringing about the 12th Imam.
Read this.

Well, I thought i thought that anyone with a passing knowledge understood that the Al Qaeda element came late to the Syrian party and that their contingent is pretty small, eg Al Nusra - Strength 6,000 compared to Free Syrian Army - a separate entity - Size 80,000. So, I am confused as to what you meant by "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" ?

You've haven't read it yet, have you?

Is that an admission that you were wrong?


No, it's an admission that you don't have the foggiest f*cking clue what you are talking about.
 
2013-08-26 07:18:43 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: dr_blasto: OK, then. I guess I'll just stick with what we actually have evidence to support.

Sure, facts. *chortle*......It is a fact nothing was found in Iraq. It is also a fact a large convoy of trucks left Iraq and went to Syria as we ginned up the invasion. I'm sure it was just food and t-shirts. I can't ask you to prove a negative, I only have my suspicions and some extremely interesting coincidences. It's ok, call me a nut. I don't care.  The Sarin came from somewhere, close. That is also a fact.


Sarin has a shelf life measured in weeks.
 
2013-08-26 07:20:04 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Al Qaeda is using the uprising to further its own agenda. We need to ensure that our actions don't further their agenda. Done right, though, weakening Assad can also weaken Al Qaeda

Well now, there is the crux of the biscuit. The rebellion is clearly aligned to AQ. There is no doubt of that.  Assad is propped by Pooty Poot and Iran. 'Done right' in this case = doing nothing.  We can hope the rebels get in a few licks and take Assad out. And some other hat in the Syrian Military takes over and squashes the rebels and can appease the Islamo nutters long enough for some back room bargains. Sadly, our bargainer is Obama and he's not good at this.  Putin is. It's not like we held any sway before in Syria, but maybe the russians can talk some sense to these idiots.  Iran is basically checked by Israel. If Iran does anything outwardly agressive, the Jews will crash that crap, and Putin knows he can do nothing outwardly agressive about it.  Proxy v Proxy....

What does "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" mean?

Gee, too confusing huh? The rebellion is being led by factions/tribes that are sympathetic to Al Queda and their desire to restore the Caliphate by bringing about the 12th Imam.
Read this.

Well, I thought i thought that anyone with a passing knowledge understood that the Al Qaeda element came late to the Syrian party and that their contingent is pretty small, eg Al Nusra - Strength 6,000 compared to Free Syrian Army - a separate entity - Size 80,000. So, I am confused as to what you meant by "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" ?

You've haven't read it yet, have you?

Is that an admission that you were wrong?

No, it's an admission that you don't have the foggiest f*cking clue what you are talking about.


Just admit you didn't know what you were talking about and thought all the rebels were Al Qaeda.
 
2013-08-26 07:20:05 PM
I propose doing nothing, but issuing a strongly worded letter condemning the attacks.  That is the one and only way that America could really contribute anything without killing lots more people that don't need killin'.
 
2013-08-26 07:21:13 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: You'll have to ask them. It's a fair query.


Considering the intelligence apparatus at their disposal, that such a fact would have saved them a ton of face, and that there's no logical reason for Saddam to truck his chemical weapons stockpile to Syria while the combined military might of the United States and friends are playing for keeps, I'm going to stick with the conclusion that your fair query is as horseshiat as truther and birther conspiracies.
 
2013-08-26 07:21:29 PM
Lt. Cheese Weasel

Sarin shelf-life, curveball, the make-up of the rebels - you're totally clueless, aren't you?
 
2013-08-26 07:23:22 PM

21-7-b: Just admit you didn't know what you were talking about and thought all the rebels were Al Qaeda.


i for one fully admit that I believed the Rebels were mostly Islamists.
 
2013-08-26 07:23:57 PM

21-7-b: Just admit you didn't know what you were talking about and thought all the rebels were Al Qaeda.


i for one fully admit that I believed the Rebels were mostly Islamists.  (doesn't change my opinion on getting involved, however).
 
2013-08-26 07:25:38 PM

21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Al Qaeda is using the uprising to further its own agenda. We need to ensure that our actions don't further their agenda. Done right, though, weakening Assad can also weaken Al Qaeda

Well now, there is the crux of the biscuit. The rebellion is clearly aligned to AQ. There is no doubt of that.  Assad is propped by Pooty Poot and Iran. 'Done right' in this case = doing nothing.  We can hope the rebels get in a few licks and take Assad out. And some other hat in the Syrian Military takes over and squashes the rebels and can appease the Islamo nutters long enough for some back room bargains. Sadly, our bargainer is Obama and he's not good at this.  Putin is. It's not like we held any sway before in Syria, but maybe the russians can talk some sense to these idiots.  Iran is basically checked by Israel. If Iran does anything outwardly agressive, the Jews will crash that crap, and Putin knows he can do nothing outwardly agressive about it.  Proxy v Proxy....

What does "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" mean?

Gee, too confusing huh? The rebellion is being led by factions/tribes that are sympathetic to Al Queda and their desire to restore the Caliphate by bringing about the 12th Imam.
Read this.

Well, I thought i thought that anyone with a passing knowledge understood that the Al Qaeda element came late to the Syrian party and that their contingent is pretty small, eg Al Nusra - Strength 6,000 compared to Free Syrian Army - a separate entity - Size 80,000. So, I am confused as to what you meant by "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" ?

You've haven't read it yet, have you?

Is that an admission that you were wrong?

No, it's an admission that you don't have the foggiest f*cking clue what you are talking about.

Just admit you didn't know what you were talking about and thought all the rebels were Al Qaeda.


I didn't say 'all', don't move the posts.  To deny the rebels in Syria don't have AQ's help is just stupid, and I don't think you're stupid.
 
2013-08-26 07:25:49 PM
Oh, John Kerry said it.

Is the imaged seared... SEARED... into his brain?
 
2013-08-26 07:26:47 PM

Flab: Apik0r0s is for real.


QFT
 
2013-08-26 07:27:34 PM

russsssman: cman: It doesn't concern us

yeah.. Neither did the Holocaust. We shoulda just let the Jews figure it out, down to the last one.


1. Japan bombed Perl Harbor
2. Germany, being an ally of Japan, declared war upon the United States

That actually did concern us. This Syria thing, we have nothing in it
 
2013-08-26 07:27:40 PM

russsssman: cman: It doesn't concern us

yeah.. Neither did the Holocaust. We shoulda just let the Jews figure it out, down to the last one.


You do know that the Sunni extremists fighting Asad consider his Alawite supporters to be heretics, and have called for their extermination, right?

By attacking Asad, Obama is basically signing their death warrant.
 
2013-08-26 07:28:33 PM
"I really screwed the world with World War II, enjoying the repercussions?"
www.thedailyrash.com
 
2013-08-26 07:29:11 PM

karmaceutical: Is this the thread where garden variety Fark conserva-trolls pretend to be against this sort of thing?


No, this is the one where we blindly support everything Obama does because we have tied our self esteem to his performance.
 
2013-08-26 07:29:14 PM
Why am I supposed to care about Syria again?
 
2013-08-26 07:29:47 PM

Kit Fister: 21-7-b: Just admit you didn't know what you were talking about and thought all the rebels were Al Qaeda.

i for one fully admit that I believed the Rebels were mostly Islamists.


If you feel like reading up
 
2013-08-26 07:30:43 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 21-7-b: Al Qaeda is using the uprising to further its own agenda. We need to ensure that our actions don't further their agenda. Done right, though, weakening Assad can also weaken Al Qaeda

Well now, there is the crux of the biscuit. The rebellion is clearly aligned to AQ. There is no doubt of that.  Assad is propped by Pooty Poot and Iran. 'Done right' in this case = doing nothing.  We can hope the rebels get in a few licks and take Assad out. And some other hat in the Syrian Military takes over and squashes the rebels and can appease the Islamo nutters long enough for some back room bargains. Sadly, our bargainer is Obama and he's not good at this.  Putin is. It's not like we held any sway before in Syria, but maybe the russians can talk some sense to these idiots.  Iran is basically checked by Israel. If Iran does anything outwardly agressive, the Jews will crash that crap, and Putin knows he can do nothing outwardly agressive about it.  Proxy v Proxy....

What does "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" mean?

Gee, too confusing huh? The rebellion is being led by factions/tribes that are sympathetic to Al Queda and their desire to restore the Caliphate by bringing about the 12th Imam.
Read this.

Well, I thought i thought that anyone with a passing knowledge understood that the Al Qaeda element came late to the Syrian party and that their contingent is pretty small, eg Al Nusra - Strength 6,000 compared to Free Syrian Army - a separate entity - Size 80,000. So, I am confused as to what you meant by "the rebellion is clearly aligned to Al Qaeda" ?

You've haven't read it yet, have you?

Is that an admission that you were wrong?

No, it's an admission that you don't have the foggiest f*cking clue what you are talking about.

Just admit you didn't know what you were talking about and thought all the rebels were Al Qaeda.

I didn't say 'all', don't move the posts.  To deny the rebels in Syria don't have AQ's help is just stupid, and I don't think you're stupid.


Check out the link i posted for kit
 
2013-08-26 07:31:27 PM

Mouser: By attacking Asad, Obama is basically signing their death warrant.


No, he's just executing the warrant that was signed in Tel Aviv and given to him by J Street.
 
2013-08-26 07:31:31 PM
I'm just waiting to post the headline, "Obama has been nearly identical to Bush in many areas, but at least he hasn't started multiple wars."
 
2013-08-26 07:34:15 PM

cman: russsssman: cman: It doesn't concern us

yeah.. Neither did the Holocaust. We shoulda just let the Jews figure it out, down to the last one.

1. Japan bombed Perl Harbor
2. Germany, being an ally of Japan, declared war upon the United States

That actually did concern us. This Syria thing, we have nothing in it


semicomplete.com
 
2013-08-26 07:34:19 PM
Thanks Bush!

farking asshole.

This shiat never would have happened if we'd all voted for Obama years ago.
 
2013-08-26 07:34:23 PM

basemetal: make me some tea: basemetal: [850x567 from http://www.popularresistance.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Pepper-Spr ay-Officer-Pike.jpg image 850x567]

I want to know what type of chemical weapon first.  We talking VX, Sarin, or some strong tear gas that caused some asthmatics to go nuts.

The videos showed a whole bunch of dead people.

Still want to know what kind of gas.


we'll know soon enough.  doctors on the ground say its a nerve agent for sure and the UN inspectors finally got some blood an tissue samples after being sniped at
 
2013-08-26 07:34:51 PM

BMFPitt: I'm just waiting to post the headline, "Obama has been nearly identical to Bush in many areas, but at least he hasn't started multiple wars."


Obama seems to finish wars rather than start them, but whatever
 
2013-08-26 07:34:58 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Lt. Cheese Weasel: You'll have to ask them. It's a fair query.

Considering the intelligence apparatus at their disposal, that such a fact would have saved them a ton of face, and that there's no logical reason for Saddam to truck his chemical weapons stockpile to Syria while the combined military might of the United States and friends are playing for keeps, I'm going to stick with the conclusion that your fair query is as horseshiat as truther and birther conspiracies.


If you really wanted to be cynical about it, you could say that they knew and didn't say anything because no one would really care if we attacked Iraq and it would allow us to go back in and get the guy Daddy failed to get, while if we said something, we'd have to deal with not only not being able to justify a war with Iraq, but also have to deal with Syria's allies should we ever have considered military action.  The fact that they kept with their lame story and never deviated to proclaim "lol we showed up at Saddam's palace, but all we found was this dude with a mushroom on his head saying that the WMDs were in another castle", however, puts the lie to it because either we didn't know they were moved (which would be a huge screwup by the Intelligence agencies if it were true), or the whole thing is a steaming pile to begin with and there were *gasp* no WMDs left in Iraq and Bush just wanted to play soldier in a bigger sandbox.

Unfortunately, I think we'll never know what actually happened that convinced Bush to go to hell and back to instigate a war with Iraq of all places, since we profited nothing by our excursion.
 
2013-08-26 07:35:24 PM

cman: karmaceutical: Is this the thread where garden variety Fark conserva-trolls pretend to be against this sort of thing?

This is the thread in which conservatives and liberals of all sort band together for the greater good


0-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2013-08-26 07:35:39 PM

TuteTibiImperes: cman: russsssman: cman: It doesn't concern us

yeah.. Neither did the Holocaust. We shoulda just let the Jews figure it out, down to the last one.

1. Japan bombed Perl Harbor
2. Germany, being an ally of Japan, declared war upon the United States

That actually did concern us. This Syria thing, we have nothing in it

[700x473 from http://semicomplete.com/presentations/logstash-puppetconf-2012/images/ xkcd-perl.png image 700x473]


My web browser has autocorrect for spelling mistakes.

Unfortunately it does not yet have one for context spelling mistakes
 
2013-08-26 07:38:19 PM

Giltric: We should delay getting involved for as long as possible. The more of them that kill each other the better.



the only thing worth preserving there was the Aleppo Souk.  and since thats burned....
 
2013-08-26 07:39:37 PM

21-7-b: BMFPitt: I'm just waiting to post the headline, "Obama has been nearly identical to Bush in many areas, but at least he hasn't started multiple wars."

Obama seems to finish wars rather than start them, but whatever


To be fair, he really hasn't faced an opportunity that would really have put him to the test in that regard. He inherited two police actions and a shiatload of poor decisions from his predecessor, and other than using some bombs in Libya where no real intervention was needed, we haven't seen a case where it was even remotely justified.

The true test here is to see whether Obama follows in Bush's footsteps and declares that because WMDs, we must invade; or whether he decides that the political fallout from spearheading yet another intervention would only put one of the last nails in the US's coffin and thus stay the fark out of it unless or until the UN as a whole chose to act with military force -- and even then, hopefully opts to donate a few bombs, some jet fuel, and real-world ordnance delivery training of pilots to the cause instead of boots on the ground.

/holy shiat, I'm turning into a democrat.
//god help me.
 
Displayed 50 of 485 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report