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2013-08-26 03:30:30 PM
What is not "undeniable" is who the fark actually used the WMD.
Since the rule of thumb is follow the cash, I'll go with the best funded, perennial fave, CIA.

begin
 
2013-08-26 03:31:16 PM
Okay, so let's see it then.
 
2013-08-26 03:33:12 PM
Nobel Peace prizes don't earn themselves
 
2013-08-26 03:39:18 PM
As long as we limit ourselves to air and missile strikes only we should be able to handle this quickly.  If we try to put boots on the ground and built a government over there we'll be looking at another Iraq.
 
2013-08-26 03:41:19 PM

TuteTibiImperes: As long as we limit ourselves to air and missile strikes only we should be able to handle this quickly.  If we try to put boots on the ground and built a government over there we'll be looking at another Iraq.


The Iraq where we are greeted as liberators?  Sign me up!
 
2013-08-26 03:42:31 PM
Yes - only a monster would poison-gas his citizens. Let's humanely bomb the f**k out of them instead!
 
2013-08-26 03:43:26 PM
Milton Berle?
 
2013-08-26 03:47:34 PM

oldfarthenry: Yes - only a monster would poison-gas his citizens. Let's humanely bomb the f**k out of them instead!


Ding!

What can we possible hope might be accomplished by air strikes?
 
2013-08-26 03:50:06 PM

johnryan51: Milton Berle?


WC Fields, natch
 
2013-08-26 03:53:08 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: oldfarthenry: Yes - only a monster would poison-gas his citizens. Let's humanely bomb the f**k out of them instead!

Ding!

What can we possible hope might be accomplished by air strikes?


Shock and Awe.

Followed by years of "WTF do we do now?" if past is precedent.
 
2013-08-26 03:56:04 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: oldfarthenry: Yes - only a monster would poison-gas his citizens. Let's humanely bomb the f**k out of them instead!

Ding!

What can we possible hope might be accomplished by air strikes?


Hit munitions dumps, power plants, communications arrays, airfields, military bases, command HQs, etc.  Basically reduce the Syrian armed forces to rubble and put them on equal footing with the rebels.  Then leave and let them finish fighting it out and figure out how to rebuild.
 
2013-08-26 03:56:34 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: oldfarthenry: Yes - only a monster would poison-gas his citizens. Let's humanely bomb the f**k out of them instead!

Ding!

What can we possible hope might be accomplished by air strikes?


We de-clutter some military warehouses? We could use freecycle, but who knows whose hands stuff would end up in then.
 
2013-08-26 04:03:02 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Old_Chief_Scott: oldfarthenry: Yes - only a monster would poison-gas his citizens. Let's humanely bomb the f**k out of them instead!

Ding!

What can we possible hope might be accomplished by air strikes?

Hit munitions dumps, power plants, communications arrays, airfields, military bases, command HQs, etc.  Basically reduce the Syrian armed forces to rubble and put them on equal footing with the rebels.  Then leave and let them finish fighting it out and figure out how to rebuild.


Pretty much exactly what happened in Libya.
 
2013-08-26 04:03:14 PM
www.popularresistance.org

I want to know what type of chemical weapon first.  We talking VX, Sarin, or some strong tear gas that caused some asthmatics to go nuts.
 
2013-08-26 04:05:52 PM

cameroncrazy1984: TuteTibiImperes: Old_Chief_Scott: oldfarthenry: Yes - only a monster would poison-gas his citizens. Let's humanely bomb the f**k out of them instead!

Ding!

What can we possible hope might be accomplished by air strikes?

Hit munitions dumps, power plants, communications arrays, airfields, military bases, command HQs, etc.  Basically reduce the Syrian armed forces to rubble and put them on equal footing with the rebels.  Then leave and let them finish fighting it out and figure out how to rebuild.

Pretty much exactly what happened in Libya.


I'd say we handled Libya about as well as we could have.
 
2013-08-26 04:15:17 PM

TuteTibiImperes: As long as we limit ourselves to air and missile strikes only we should be able to handle this quickly.  If we try to put boots on the ground and built a government over there we'll be looking at another Iraq.


Air and missile, boots on the ground, drones, whatever. Anything we do militarily will probably ultimately kill, injure, and make refugees out of many multiples of the number of people Syria can do within itself. Cui bono?

/farking Gottschalks
 
2013-08-26 04:15:46 PM
dammit

Just ... dammit.
 
2013-08-26 04:17:15 PM
War should be a last result. It should be painful. It should require sacrifice. It should make you never want to fight one again and avoid it at all costs.

For these reasons, we'll simply use drones and hand out tax cuts. Cause that's America Post 9/11. Or, America Mark 2.
 
2013-08-26 04:24:35 PM
I don't have enough information to say that I know who used the chemical weapons. The administration thinks it does

I think the time for some sort of Western intervention has come, though.
 
2013-08-26 04:26:03 PM
It doesn't concern us
 
2013-08-26 04:31:13 PM

basemetal: [850x567 from http://www.popularresistance.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Pepper-Spr ay-Officer-Pike.jpg image 850x567]

I want to know what type of chemical weapon first.  We talking VX, Sarin, or some strong tear gas that caused some asthmatics to go nuts.


The videos showed a whole bunch of dead people.
 
2013-08-26 04:31:21 PM
Benghazi
Libya
Taxbongocare
Benghazi
Katrina
Iraq
Iran
Benghazi
Kosovo
Battle of Tours
Syria

Congratulations, Taxbongo!  Another disaster on your hands!
 
2013-08-26 04:41:03 PM
The world should just get it over with...gas that entire section of the globe, killing just about everyone. We can then have a global pity-party, stating it really sucked having to do it but it was necessary.
 
2013-08-26 04:46:22 PM

make me some tea: basemetal: [850x567 from http://www.popularresistance.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Pepper-Spr ay-Officer-Pike.jpg image 850x567]

I want to know what type of chemical weapon first.  We talking VX, Sarin, or some strong tear gas that caused some asthmatics to go nuts.

The videos showed a whole bunch of dead people.


Still want to know what kind of gas.
 
2013-08-26 04:49:55 PM

Mike_LowELL: Battle of Tours


I like it!
 
2013-08-26 04:51:42 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: What can we possible hope might be accomplished by air strikes?


Libya
 
2013-08-26 04:52:57 PM

basemetal: make me some tea: basemetal: [850x567 from http://www.popularresistance.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Pepper-Spr ay-Officer-Pike.jpg image 850x567]

I want to know what type of chemical weapon first.  We talking VX, Sarin, or some strong tear gas that caused some asthmatics to go nuts.

The videos showed a whole bunch of dead people.

Still want to know what kind of gas.


We'd have a better idea if Syria didn't open fire on the UN Inspectors.

/Well past time for the "Peacekeepers" to make their mark
 
2013-08-26 04:53:40 PM

Mike_LowELL: Benghazi
Libya
Taxbongocare
Benghazi
Katrina
Iraq
Iran
Benghazi
Kosovo
Battle of Tours
Syria

Congratulations, Taxbongo!  Another disaster on your hands!


You forgot Benghazi, Benghazi, and Poland.
 
2013-08-26 04:53:45 PM

snocone: What is not "undeniable" is who the fark actually used the WMD.
Since the rule of thumb is follow the cash, I'll go with the best funded, perennial fave, CIA.

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I don't know.  The last time we went through this it was Tenet lying to Powell so he'd get in front of people to say it.  So historically, while the CIA was the spark of the popular support (fear) for the Iraq war, they're perfectly content to just lie about it.
 
2013-08-26 04:54:20 PM
It aint no easy thing being the World's Police Officer.
 
2013-08-26 04:54:43 PM
Wasn't there a chemical weapons attack in Syria earlier this year or last year that was claimed to have been conducted by Assad right off the bat only to have an actual investigation a few months later show the rebels conducted the attack?
 
2013-08-26 04:54:48 PM

cman: It doesn't concern us


yeah it does.  didn't you know, we have to the world's police force.  any time there's some injustice in the world, we have to intervene.  God forbid we let a country handle it's own problems without us telling every other nation on the planet how to run their lives.
 
2013-08-26 04:55:34 PM

Mike_LowELL: Benghazi
Libya
Taxbongocare
Benghazi
Katrina
Iraq
Iran
Benghazi
Kosovo
Battle of Tours
Syria

Congratulations, Taxbongo!  Another disaster on your hands!


And Ben Affleck.  You always forget him.
 
2013-08-26 04:55:38 PM
And if it turns out that the rebels also used them...?
 
2013-08-26 04:56:15 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Old_Chief_Scott: oldfarthenry: Yes - only a monster would poison-gas his citizens. Let's humanely bomb the f**k out of them instead!

Ding!

What can we possible hope might be accomplished by air strikes?

Hit munitions dumps, power plants, communications arrays, airfields, military bases, command HQs, etc.  Basically reduce the Syrian armed forces to rubble and put them on equal footing with the rebels.  Then leave and let them finish fighting it out and figure out how to rebuild.


What if Assad wins anyway in that scenario?

Then it just sound like prolonging the war for nothing gained (assuming you hope Assad looses).
 
2013-08-26 04:56:37 PM

Mike_LowELL: Benghazi
Libya
Taxbongocare
Benghazi
Katrina
Iraq
Iran
Benghazi
Kosovo
Battle of Tours
Syria

Congratulations, Taxbongo!  Another disaster on your hands!


Taxbongo?  I'm no fan of the man, but your point is greatly watered down when you resort to childish name-calling.
 
2013-08-26 04:56:44 PM
So, let's see. We have Al Qaeda/Muslim Extremists on one side, and we have an assholish dictator on the other. Meanwhile, the one side is supported by the likes of Iran, and the other the likes of China and Russia. With as much support as China and russia give Assad, this could easily end up worse than either Iraq or A-Stan.

HOW THE fark COULD GETTING INVOLVED POSSIBLY BE A GOOD IDEA?!
 
2013-08-26 04:56:56 PM
war is good for business

how many people do we need to kill so we can all be wealthy?
 
2013-08-26 04:56:58 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-08-26 04:57:13 PM
Then show us the proof! Or are you still too busy manufacturing it in some Tel Aviv basement office?

Remember the last time we went to war over WMDs in the mid-east?

AIPAC pays good money to keep your leaders on the string, it would be unfair were they to not earn that money by blowing a few thousand Syrian children into dust. They're just Arab animals, after all.
 
2013-08-26 04:57:16 PM
US wars are started with false flags and this will be the next one. This will keep people employed in America and is good for the military industrial complex.
 
2013-08-26 04:57:31 PM

Nadie_AZ: Mike_LowELL: Battle of Tours

I like it!


I dunno. I remember he used to have good insight on video game stuff. Then some time ago he turned into this. It kind of ruined any attempts at trolling he does for me, knowing he was once a legitimate poster. He should have created an alt.
 
2013-08-26 04:57:55 PM
www.hollywoodreporter.com

Let's just make sure that this douchebag didn't edit the interviews first.
 
2013-08-26 04:57:59 PM
Sure, subby, Saddam gassed people with chemicals supplied by Ronny Raygun.  W used this, amongst other opaque shiat thrown at the wall, minus the Raygun part, to attack Iraq 15 years later.

Kinda different from drawing a line, and then acting when that line is crossed.
 
2013-08-26 04:58:15 PM
Here you go, folks. The Smoking Gun Might Be a Mushroom Cloud.

Put your savings in Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and General Dynamics. They're fixing to get their once every 2 to 4 year bailout from the government.
 
2013-08-26 04:58:29 PM

Disgruntled Goat: And if it turns out that the rebels also used them...?


The UN (backed by the US), should be enforcing a mandatory ceasefire on both sides, and killing any who don't comply.
 
2013-08-26 04:58:39 PM
ffftttwwwwwwwWWWWWWWW

HITLER!

/right?
 
2013-08-26 04:59:09 PM

Apik0r0s: Then show us the proof! Or are you still too busy manufacturing it in some Tel Aviv basement office?

Remember the last time we went to war over WMDs in the mid-east?

AIPAC pays good money to keep your leaders on the string, it would be unfair were they to not earn that money by blowing a few thousand Syrian children into dust. They're just Arab animals, after all.



8/10

This will get a few bites
 
2013-08-26 04:59:26 PM

darth_badger: US wars are started with false flags and this will be the next one. This will keep people employed in America and is good for the military industrial complex.


The only hope I have is that the stock market tanked immediately after Kerry's speech.   The American people don't have anymore appetitite for another interventionist war in the Middle East.   The little flags and the yellow ribbon car magnets have lost their charm.
 
2013-08-26 04:59:55 PM

ManateeGag: yeah it does. didn't you know, we have to the world's police force. any time there's some injustice in the world, we have to intervene. God forbid we let a country handle it's own problems without us telling every other nation on the planet how to run their lives.


Tell that to every case where the goddamn UN put the brunt of military action on the US.

The US is like that big, dumb kid everyone looks down on because he's "violent" until some other, smaller country or group needs him to come along and handle a problem. Neat thing is, foreign regimes can point us at someone else, plant plenty of evidence, and watch while we rush headlong towards leveling the fark out of them, all the while tacitly denouncing what we've done.

On the list of places that deserve our help, Syria's pretty goddamn far down the list, behind places like Columbia and Mexico, which we actually had a pretty big hand in screwing up, what with the drug war and all, and are thus much higher on the list of places that should get some intervention attention.
 
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