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2013-08-26 08:57:13 PM  
4 votes:
Again, why in the king fark would Assad use chemical weapons 2 days after a UN chemical weapons inspection team arrives?

The answer to that must be as bizarre as the answer to the question: Why did we invade Iraq after 9/11 when Iraq had no role in 9/11?


Bonus: UN chemical inspectors have accused the rebels of using sarin before this.
2013-08-26 07:14:29 PM  
4 votes:
Thanks to Bush/Cheney and their little "hunt down the people who did this" oil war in Iraq, the Chinese National Petroleum Company is now running the largest oil field in Iraq.

I can hardly wait for the blowback from the attacks in Syria that hit Russian or Chinese assets. Wheeeeee!!1!

I'm off to buy oil stocks (particularly BP) and contractor stocks. The rich are going to get richer. Again.

Oh and one more thing...DO NOT VOLUNTEER....REPEAT....DO NOT VOLUNTEER. If the Republican NeoCons get a hold of the White House you will be volunteering for another 10 year resource war, doing 15 month combat tours with no time off.  You will volunteer with the best of intentions and highest of principles and end up serving a civilian leadership whose only intentions are making big profits off the backs of volunteers.
2013-08-26 06:15:41 PM  
4 votes:
Turkey, Britain and France all indicated on Monday that they would back the Obama administration if it decides to take action against Syria in response to the alleged attack, even without a United Nations mandate.

Yea. Right.

I've got an idea... how about this: We (the Obama administration) say that we will back Turkey, Britain and France if they decide to take action against Syria in response to the alleged attack, even without a United Nations mandate.
2013-08-26 05:42:47 PM  
4 votes:

worlddan: Glitchwerks: Can another country play World Police this time?

Who?

Russia is correct. It is going to be another boondoggle. But what are the good alternatives? Assad knows this too and is gambling that when push comes shove we'll shove off. There are no good solutions here, that I see.


Want the non-moral truth? The best alternative, as far as US interests, is to cripple Assad with strikes, level the playing field between the rebels and the state, and have a long drawn out war that drains the resources of both parties.
2013-08-26 05:08:03 PM  
4 votes:
Can another country play World Police this time?
2013-08-26 05:07:59 PM  
4 votes:
Calling it:
Massive waves of air strikes, followed by Turkey rolling in from the west/NW and the Foreign Legion dropping into Damascus.
2013-08-26 05:06:18 PM  
4 votes:
You know, Russia. Once we blow all that stuff up, they are gonna want replacement stuff. maybe some newer equipment that might no explode so much.

Just saying.
A wise Ferengi Nagus once said: War is good for profits
2013-08-26 05:43:54 PM  
3 votes:
Sounds like it's going to be a mix of Libya and Kosovo, maybe just enough to kick the legs out from under the regime. Ultimately Russia won't care as long as the new guys let them keep their warm-water port.
2013-08-26 05:37:41 PM  
3 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Calling it:
Massive waves of air strikes, followed by Turkey rolling in from the west/NW and the Foreign Legion dropping into Damascus.


It's actually kind of dicey for Turkey to roll in, given that they'd be rolling into land currently held by the Kurds. Turkey and the Kurds have... history.
2013-08-26 05:24:41 PM  
3 votes:
Which disgusting asshats should we side with?
2013-08-26 05:13:48 PM  
3 votes:

Glitchwerks: Can another country play World Police this time?


Who?

Russia is correct. It is going to be another boondoggle. But what are the good alternatives? Assad knows this too and is gambling that when push comes shove we'll shove off. There are no good solutions here, that I see.
2013-08-26 05:04:17 PM  
3 votes:
Not now John, we gotta get on with these.
2013-08-27 02:08:00 AM  
2 votes:
Last post on the topic:  yesterday, Fox News Radio pretty much made it out to be that Russia was warning us not to attack Syria or else.  Then I get home and look up some real news, and I see they're not so much warning us but rather asking, "Didn't you morons learn anything from ten years ago?"
2013-08-27 01:14:21 AM  
2 votes:
imageshack.us
2013-08-26 09:02:14 PM  
2 votes:
Soooo... as others have pointed out, the US (and most of the world) is teetering on the brink of a big ole recession/depression/financial collapse (that is why we pumped so much stimulus over the past 4 years with no recovery).  So gee.. we can either have a true collapse accompanied with a transfer of power OR the existing power structures can keep trying to stay in power.

The problem is an isolated war in Syria means nothing to this problem.  It MUST become a full-out world war, maybe even with some nukes.  Why?  Well, that will keep existing powers in power, and ensure the next economies will have some work to do (rebuilding).

The problem here is it will only be ANOTHER delay of the existent inevitable.  More and more people see through it this time, which I fear means the existing power structure will find the need to restore to more drastic measures.  No thank you...
2013-08-26 07:25:31 PM  
2 votes:
We go in on the ground there, they are going to gas our troops. Bank on it. When they do, we unleash in a special way.

Let's not go there. Let Russia handle this one.

We've asked enough of our troops lately.
2013-08-26 07:25:28 PM  
2 votes:
If the Islamists want to create their own state, I fail to see how we, the West, are obligated to help them in any way.

"Death to the infidels!.... oh shiat, gas! Help us infidels!"
2013-08-26 06:41:19 PM  
2 votes:
12 years after 911 and our borders aren't secure, and we are trying to manipulate other countries. Lets mind our own business for a change.
2013-08-26 06:31:11 PM  
2 votes:
Fark me.  I do NOT support getting involved there..
jvl
2013-08-26 06:20:35 PM  
2 votes:
Remember when the Security Council voted to allow Russia to invade Georgia? Me neither.

Shut up Ivan.
2013-08-26 06:06:40 PM  
2 votes:
The Russians are strategic thinkers:  they won't go all Kim Jong Il just because we launch a couple dozen cruise missiles into Syria's command and control bunkers.  If we nuked Assad's last known location, they might lob one of their own into Georgia (Tbilisi, not Atlanta), just because they could get away with it under the "you did it first" doctrine.
2013-08-26 05:24:21 PM  
2 votes:
I for one welcome our overlords from both the military industrial complex and foriegn bankers.
2013-08-26 05:07:43 PM  
2 votes:
Is Russia wrong on this? reading the article, that Lavrov guy sounds pretty level headed. That didn't sound like the normal "Russia will nuke if we don't get our way!" stuff that's usually presented. More like he was pointing out this would be Iraq all over again.
2013-08-26 05:06:27 PM  
2 votes:
Seriously:  Russia, was it THAT HARD to keep your buddy from raiding his nerve-gas stash?
2013-08-27 01:36:53 AM  
1 vote:

Kahabut: worlddan: Glitchwerks: Can another country play World Police this time?

Who?

Russia is correct. It is going to be another boondoggle. But what are the good alternatives? Assad knows this too and is gambling that when push comes shove we'll shove off. There are no good solutions here, that I see.

It isn't your problem to solve.  Has no one farking thought that little bit of reality just yet?

Seriously, fark them.  It's not our problem, and it should never have even been considered our problem.


BUT RUPERT HAS BEEN DEMANDING THIS BE OUR PROBLEM!  WE MUST APPEASE RUPERT!
2013-08-27 01:27:28 AM  
1 vote:
Begun, the Muslim Thirty Years' War has.

There's battle lines being drawn, and nobody's right if everybody's wrong.

A plague o' both their houses.

Both sides hate our guts.  Syria is not worth a single hair on an American soldier's head.  Ditto Egypt.  Let them go on killing each other until they get it through their heads that maybe just leaving each other alone might work better.

And if they want Sharia law, let them have it in spades, hearts, clubs and diamonds.  Let them stew in it until they get it through their heads that it is not the utopia that the Qur'an thumpers promised.
2013-08-27 12:56:58 AM  
1 vote:
I don't think we're going to get involved, and I don't think we should either. Russia knows we shouldn't, and the administration knows we shouldn't. Russia is just using this as an opportunity to make Obama look weak. And he'll just have to take it on the chin, because we're not in the position to go warring.

At least this is my opinion. Granted I don't know very much on this subject.
2013-08-27 12:07:18 AM  
1 vote:

oregon fubaralas: ScaryBottles: And furthermore that we should just sit by as men women and children are attacked with neurotoxin? I don't care if you sympathize with their side or not aside from the obvious moral difficulty of allowing a thing like that to happen to anyone, it is also in clear contravention of the Geneva convention are we supposed to just let that slide? I didn't support Iraq it was bullshiat and anyone with half a brain knew it but this shiat is really happening right now.

Kurds


Why are you not suggesting we invade much of Africa right now as well?  What about Georgia a few years ago?  We should have bases in every country, just in case. Right?
2013-08-26 11:40:55 PM  
1 vote:

ScaryBottles: And furthermore that we should just sit by as men women and children are attacked with neurotoxin? I don't care if you sympathize with their side or not aside from the obvious moral difficulty of allowing a thing like that to happen to anyone, it is also in clear contravention of the Geneva convention are we supposed to just let that slide? I didn't support Iraq it was bullshiat and anyone with half a brain knew it but this shiat is really happening right now.


Kurds
2013-08-26 10:34:16 PM  
1 vote:
I thought for sure FARK detectives would be trying to ID the rockets that look like DIY rebel rockets. I'm intrigued. A couple folks are REALLY into figuring it out.
4.bp.blogspot.com
2013-08-26 09:12:10 PM  
1 vote:
sounds like a job for the french and english

post-colonialism is a biatch, ain't it?
2013-08-26 09:06:31 PM  
1 vote:
Generals and majors, like ever before, are tired of being actionless.

Whistle along (and why yes, that is Richard Branson)
2013-08-26 08:27:58 PM  
1 vote:

stirfrybry: Get ready for some Nobel Peace


This
2013-08-26 08:00:29 PM  
1 vote:
TLAMS are $500,000 each.    And we need a bunch of those just to open the party.


...then it starts getting expensive
2013-08-26 07:59:35 PM  
1 vote:

Ow! That was my feelings!: America needs it's own foreign legion, similar to the French, but uniquely American. That way, when this shiat happens, that doesn't really matter to America, we can send the criminals and the fools to die for nothing, instead of the real military.


I used to think so, too -- but it could be used against the American people much easier than the regulars.

Lets let France use their foreign legion since we don't have one.
2013-08-26 07:52:58 PM  
1 vote:

Smeggy Smurf: Deep Contact: WW 3 just around the corner.

Thanks Obama.

Getting America into world wars is a recurring theme with Democrats The English and French.


FTFY
2013-08-26 07:37:47 PM  
1 vote:
America needs it's own foreign legion, similar to the French, but uniquely American. That way, when this shiat happens, that doesn't really matter to America, we can send the criminals and the fools to die for nothing, instead of the real military.
2013-08-26 07:34:01 PM  
1 vote:

SirEattonHogg: "Russia says attacking Syria would be catastrophic"

Russia is correct.  It would be catastrophically stupid for us to get involved in any way.

But here we are...


What do you think AIPAC spends on that money on? Ice cream socials for our leaders?

We are owned.
2013-08-26 07:32:43 PM  
1 vote:
"Russia says attacking Syria would be catastrophic"

Russia is correct.  It would be catastrophically stupid for us to get involved in any way.

But here we are...
2013-08-26 07:30:02 PM  
1 vote:

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: Let's not go there. Let Russia Israel handle this one.We've asked enough of our troops lately.


FTFY

No more American boys and girls dying so that Israel can feel a bit more secure - for a moment at least, until it's time to have another neighbor bombed into chaos.
2013-08-26 06:46:35 PM  
1 vote:

thermodie: 12 years after 911 and our borders aren't secure, and we are trying to manipulate other countries. Lets mind our own business for a change.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

oh you!
2013-08-26 06:39:49 PM  
1 vote:
Deep Contact: WW 3 just around the corner.

Thanks Obama.

yep. syria= poland in ww2
2013-08-26 06:34:06 PM  
1 vote:

Apik0r0s: [850x618 from http://www.occupyaipac.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Netanyahu-Obama- AIPAC.gif image 850x618]


Here's an oldie you'll probably like:

library.thinkquest.org
2013-08-26 06:32:31 PM  
1 vote:
Sorry,  the US credit cards are maxed out right now.    Hit us up next time.

We've already had a few at bats.... time for the EU or countries near Syria to step up to the plate.

Let them go in debt, in an effort try and stabilize the region.

/let the UK send in a carrier
//oops
2013-08-26 06:29:39 PM  
1 vote:
www.occupyaipac.org
2013-08-26 06:26:50 PM  
1 vote:
I think we should rush right into war, because I believe everything the Obama administration says. He's trustworthy and not at all a lying sack of shiat politician.
2013-08-26 05:53:43 PM  
1 vote:

ThatBillmanGuy: Is Russia wrong on this? reading the article, that Lavrov guy sounds pretty level headed. That didn't sound like the normal "Russia will nuke if we don't get our way!" stuff that's usually presented. More like he was pointing out this would be Iraq all over again.


This.
I have to wonder whose military Obama would use to "strike" or "attack?"

/The US "contractor" system farking LOVES quagmires.
2013-08-26 05:48:42 PM  
1 vote:

Deep Contact: WW 3 just around the corner.

Thanks Obama.


Wouldn't that be some serious irony if the winner of a Nobel Peace Prize actually starts WW3?!!!
2013-08-26 05:47:13 PM  
1 vote:

Satanic_Hamster: Calling it:
Massive waves of air strikes, followed by Turkey rolling in from the west/NW and the Foreign Legion dropping into Damascus.


That would be a neat trick for Turkey, considering Syria's western border is the Mediterranean Sea. The usual route invading South from Turkey is Aleppo, Homs, Damascus.You could have somebody come in from the sea at Tripoli, if you were gonna go all ground troop invasion, but I doubt that's going to happen. I wouldn't expect any NATO boots on ground (other than special forces) before Assad quits or loses. Then you'd have blue helmets.
2013-08-26 05:45:38 PM  
1 vote:

pedobearapproved: worlddan: Glitchwerks: Can another country play World Police this time?

Who?

Russia is correct. It is going to be another boondoggle. But what are the good alternatives? Assad knows this too and is gambling that when push comes shove we'll shove off. There are no good solutions here, that I see.

Want the non-moral truth? The best alternative, as far as US interests, is to cripple Assad with strikes, level the playing field between the rebels and the state, and have a long drawn out war that drains the resources of both parties.


and we make bank off of weapon sales?
2013-08-26 05:43:38 PM  
1 vote:
Get ready for some Nobel Peace
2013-08-26 05:41:51 PM  
1 vote:

This text is now purple: Satanic_Hamster: Calling it:
Massive waves of air strikes, followed by Turkey rolling in from the west/NW and the Foreign Legion dropping into Damascus.

It's actually kind of dicey for Turkey to roll in, given that they'd be rolling into land currently held by the Kurds. Turkey and the Kurds have... history.


Or they might just be very eager to roll into said country to "settle" the aforementioned..... History.

/this would be bad
2013-08-26 05:41:42 PM  
1 vote:
catastrophic... to our economy/debt.
2013-08-26 05:41:30 PM  
1 vote:
He's right. It will be catastrophic. Only question is for whom.
2013-08-26 05:40:12 PM  
1 vote:

worlddan: Glitchwerks: Can another country play World Police this time?

Who?

Russia is correct. It is going to be another boondoggle. But what are the good alternatives? Assad knows this too and is gambling that when push comes shove we'll shove off. There are no good solutions here, that I see.


Kosovo? Libya? There are any number of options other than the Bush-Cheney full retard invasion of Syria.
2013-08-26 05:33:31 PM  
1 vote:

gestug: I vote that the UN DOES SOMETHING other than PEACE KEEPING


With what? They have no army, they just give out the Blue Hat of Just Cause to real states with real armies stepping up. The big value of the UN is it makes it much less likely countries will go to war accidently by providing clear communication of who is officially saying what and a hint of how big a pile of shiat attacking X country may end up snowballing into.

For example, right now Russia is acting butthurt, but there is no lining up of real military assets on Assad's side. He's as in season  and alone as Quadfi was...
2013-08-26 05:18:42 PM  
1 vote:

LewDux: Obama: Peregruzka?
Putin: NYET
Obama: Oh well


Zdrastvotsya, eta maya koshka!

/ all the Russian I know
2013-08-26 05:18:13 PM  
1 vote:

Deep Contact: WW 3 just around the corner.

Thanks Obama.


Getting America into world wars is a recurring theme with Democrats
2013-08-26 05:17:19 PM  
1 vote:
So the Russians may have a better handle on this stuff than our people .

"U.N. Ambassador Samantha Power has been on the job less than three weeks, but appears to have skipped an emergencyU.N. Security Councilmeeting on Syria Wednesday because it interfered with her vacation."
2013-08-26 05:14:26 PM  
1 vote:
Obama: Peregruzka?
Putin: NYET
Obama: Oh well
2013-08-26 05:11:11 PM  
1 vote:
I vote that the UN DOES SOMETHING other than PEACE KEEPING
2013-08-26 05:05:33 PM  
1 vote:

Carth: I think we're up to WW 5 at this point. Which is ok because WWV looks much cooler.


WWV, you say?
2013-08-26 05:03:39 PM  
1 vote:

Deep Contact: WW 3 just around the corner.

Thanks Obama.


I think we're up to WW 5 at this point. Which is ok because WWV looks much cooler.
2013-08-26 03:07:53 PM  
1 vote:
WW 3 just around the corner.

Thanks Obama.
 
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