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(Washington Post)   Horsepocalypse is not the title of Syfy's latest movie, but what's about to happen in the western United States   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 28
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2013-08-26 02:56:58 PM  
11 votes:
If people in this country would just get over their "but I wanted a pony when I was a kid!" attitude and start eating horse, this wouldn't be a problem.
2013-08-26 05:56:23 PM  
3 votes:
Kahabut:
It kinda makes you wonder why a horse costs so farking much to buy.  I guess it's like puppies you get from a breeder.  Pure greed.

The majority of horses aren't that expensive.  Sure, a quality race horse, roping horse or dressage prospect, but those are the high-end performers and those who have value for breeding more great performers.  Your average horse costs anything from free to a few hundred dollars, your show prospects one- to four-thousand.  Its maintaining them that gets really expensive.  Hay, grain, supplements, vaccines, worming, shoes - even more if you board somewhere.

I would say from my experience that most horse lovers are opposed to eating horse meat because horses are beautiful and so highly sensitive.  People love them the way they love their cats and dogs, and we don't eat them either.  When horses were considered more of a working animal eating them was far more acceptable;  with the advent of motorized transportation, the horse became a luxury pet, riding became a pastime for people with money.

I have many friends in the horse community who are adamantly opposed to slaughter.  Its surprising, because the last few years have given us a really clear picture on why a slaughterhouse is a better option.  Plenty of horse owners can barely afford their horses.  When the recession hit a lot of local owners stopped caring properly for their animals, and the market for selling horses died.  You can sell your horse to the kill pen buyers who ship to Mexico and Canada, but people are uncomfortable with the foreign canners because the industry is so under-regulated, particularly in Mexico, and abuse abounds.  Another thing people around here (rural Washington) have been doing is taking their horses out near the BLM lands or up in the Cascades and turning them loose, which is amazingly stupid.  Domestic horses can't survive in the wild -- they quickly starve, died of thirst or are eating by predators.   Out in the rangeland in Eastern Washington you can see thousands of carcasses, mostly of domestic horses set loose by idiotic owners who couldn't afford them anymore.  God forbid they should spend a couple of hundred bucks to at least have the animal humanely euthanized by a vet...hell no, let's just set them FREE so they can RUN WILD.  Ugh.

Wild horses would not typically be suitable for human consumption; just like most game, they don't have a high fat content in the meat and it would probably not be especially palatable.  However, we have a thriving dog food industry, and I'd sure the hell rather see horses go be humanely slaughtered and provide sustenance for other living beings rather than starving to death or dying of thirst because we have a drought.  I have no problem whatsoever with reviving the US's slaughter industry, provided its well-regulated and humanely done.

The mustangs have been mismanaged for so long that its hard to see a better alternative.  There are just too many of them, and the farmers and the taxpayers ought not to be paying the price.
2013-08-26 04:59:52 PM  
3 votes:

This text is now purple: stuhayes2010: Horses are an invasive species. Pure n simple. Treat them like kutzoo.

Horses are native to North America.


LOLWUT?

You thinking about all the imagery of Indians riding horses? That's all due to the Spaniards...
2013-08-26 04:50:25 PM  
2 votes:
One word... Taco Bell.
2013-08-26 04:42:43 PM  
2 votes:
I don't understand this not being able to control population bullshiat

We have made so many species extinct, or nearly extinct through are existence as humans..  Now you're telling me we're incapable of being ruthless killing machines?
2013-08-26 04:36:41 PM  
2 votes:
I wanted a pony as a child. I still want a pony. When I'm bored, I doodle horses. I rode horses from walking age until college. I would also eat horse, if it meant the overall population were healthier in the end.

/see was it that hard?
2013-08-26 04:24:31 PM  
2 votes:

naughtyrev: If people in this country would just get over their "but I wanted a pony when I was a kid!" attitude and start eating horse, this wouldn't be a problem.


This. Horse meat is supposedly very tasty. The French eat it, and I think that their judgement should be trusted in all matters culinary.
2013-08-26 03:31:12 PM  
2 votes:
The BLM is so farking incompetent. They easily could have solved the problem long ago by gelding stallions and giving mares birth control.  Instead they've dicked around for years cramming excess horses into tiny pens.
2013-08-26 09:48:05 PM  
1 votes:

gadian: gnosis301: gadian: You don't eat your work animals.

Wrong.

If you eat them, they can't work for you anymore.  I can't eat my horse if I had to use it as transportation or to pull a plow.  Same with ox.  Eat your sheep, no wool.  Eat your cow, no milk.  Societies evolved these taboos partly out of necessity because stupid people would eat their work animals.  It depends if you define horse as "work" or "food".

The dietary restricted animals cow / pig etc. evolved because it took too many resource to fatten the animal up and starving people needed the grain etc. more.  Solution? Outlaw consumption of the animal.


You eat the working/wool/dairy/egg laying animals when they are old and worn out, and cannot do their work any longer. (or it's excess males in your flock, in which case you eat them when they are young and tender)  The old worn out ones make the bestest sausage and soup, as they are toughy and stringy, yet flavorful.  Grind it down or boil it, and no one will be the wiser about the age of the mutton.
2013-08-26 09:05:35 PM  
1 votes:
FTA: BLM has long struggled to bring the horse population down to the mandated level of 23,622.

I'm afraid to ask how they arrived at that precise number, but no doubt Congress spent months arguing about it.
2013-08-26 08:09:25 PM  
1 votes:

Kimothy: My personal dislike for these two women doesn't help, but I'm of the opinion that they should be rounded up and sold to whomever wants to slaughter them and sell the parts off.


That's pretty harsh, dude.
2013-08-26 07:15:10 PM  
1 votes:
Bronies are still a thing, I see. *sigh*
2013-08-26 05:23:51 PM  
1 votes:

Kahabut: No, but I learned at a very young age that horses are evil farkers, along with most other farm animals. Dangerous at both ends and crafty in the middle.

I've never walked behind a horse in my life, and I rarely go near the front either (anymore). Seen one too many people seriously injured by a pissed off horse. Never did understand the attitude of the humans that were trying to get the horse to do something. It's bigger than you, and not happy about what you are doing, you might want to reconsider


Some can be monumental assholes, I'll give you that. My dad's were quite mellow. Big-ass draft horses. Mine, on the other hand, wasn't so delightful. I had finished cleaning a back hoof when a fly gave him a nice bite on the arse. As soon as I put his hoof down - KABLAMMOMYTE.

I forgave him, of course. But, I never forgave that godforsaken rooster, Frank, who spurred me the next day.

Ever dropkick a rooster? Satisfying.
2013-08-26 05:06:13 PM  
1 votes:

phenn: Kahabut: Headso: Kahabut: It kinda makes you wonder why a horse costs so farking much to buy.  I guess it's like puppies you get from a breeder.  Pure greed.

you can get a horse for free pretty easy but it will probably not be good for riding, that's when they start costing money.

Actually, I knew that.  My aunt has several rescue horses.  I helped rehabilitate a couple of them.  Have a few scars to prove it.

/some of those farkers still had teeth.

Ever get a nice kick to the middle of the back? Fun times.


No, but I learned at a very young age that horses are evil farkers, along with most other farm animals.  Dangerous at both ends and crafty in the middle.

I've never walked behind a horse in my life, and I rarely go near the front either (anymore).  Seen one too many people seriously injured by a pissed off horse.  Never did understand the attitude of the humans that were trying to get the horse to do something.  It's bigger than you, and not happy about what you are doing, you might want to reconsider.
2013-08-26 05:05:45 PM  
1 votes:

This text is now purple: stuhayes2010: Horses are an invasive species. Pure n simple. Treat them like kutzoo.

Horses are native to North America.


Until they died out 11,000 years ago, but yeah.
"Modern horses, zebras, and asses belong to the genusEquus, the only surviving genus in a once diverse family, the Equidae. Based on fossil records, the genus appears to have originated in North America about 4 million years ago and spread to Eurasia (presumably by crossing the Bering land bridge) 2 to 3 million years ago. Following that original emigration, there were additional westward migrations to Asia and return migrations back to North America, as well as several extinctions ofEquus species in North America."
http://www.livescience.com/9589-surprising-history-america-wild-hors es .html
2013-08-26 05:05:27 PM  
1 votes:
Kill the bronies.
2013-08-26 05:03:11 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: Where are the predators in this region? Non-human?


Mountain lions are probably the apex predator for the vast majority of the area where the horses are(wolves maybe in the more northern areas), but neither is too keen on tackling a 1200lb mustang that can kick a head right off a body (and bite at least as hard as the cat).  And, these horses can run long distances at 30-40mph....both cat and wolf and probably coyotes would be glad to munch on a colt or downed animal. Bears (black and brown) would'nt mind chewing on some horsehide too, but they're just as happy to munch on grass and berries for a good portion of their meals.

/not saying bears or cats or wolves don't take the horses down, but a deer is a much easier target to any of them
2013-08-26 04:52:23 PM  
1 votes:
You mean this whole time people in Best Korea have been starving for nutn?
2013-08-26 04:51:09 PM  
1 votes:
There are people who dedicate their lives to making sure the BLM does absolutely NOTHING in regards to the wild horses.  They don't want them rounded up for adoption, they don't want them rounded up for sterilization, they don't want them rounded up for slaughter....these people want the horses left alone to "grace our majestic lands" or some such bullshiat.  They have sued and fought and fought and sued for years to achieve this goal and they damn sure aren't going to give up any time soon.

/they were responsible for the ban on horse slaughter and have even sued when horses were adopted by people who they thought MIGHT export the horses for slaughter
2013-08-26 04:50:22 PM  
1 votes:
Very simple solution:
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2013-08-26 04:49:10 PM  
1 votes:

baronbloodbath: Pony thread?

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Pony thread.


Pedophile watch-list thread?
2013-08-26 04:48:57 PM  
1 votes:
They're not native to the U.S., I see no need to protect feral populations.

Treat them like cats, TNR - Trap, Neuter, Return. You'll see populations go down pretty fast.
2013-08-26 04:43:41 PM  
1 votes:
That's good. I hate horses. I hate the way that they stare at you sideways with their huge, squishy looking eyeball and always try to touch you with their gross, floppy lips. I spend actual time and energy hating horses. I'd punch a horse right in its stupid face if one was here right now.
2013-08-26 04:38:46 PM  
1 votes:

downstairs: TuteTibiImperes: naughtyrev: If people in this country would just get over their "but I wanted a pony when I was a kid!" attitude and start eating horse, this wouldn't be a problem.

This. Horse meat is supposedly very tasty. The French eat it, and I think that their judgement should be trusted in all matters culinary.

I'm curious what the issue is with eating horse meat?  Wiki didn't give me a good understanding, just explaining its taboo, and even illegal in some places.  Is it merely because we consider them "pets"?


They're work animals.  You don't eat your work animals.
2013-08-26 04:36:50 PM  
1 votes:
Cull the herd, feed the homeless.
2013-08-26 04:36:42 PM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: naughtyrev: If people in this country would just get over their "but I wanted a pony when I was a kid!" attitude and start eating horse, this wouldn't be a problem.

This. Horse meat is supposedly very tasty. The French eat it, and I think that their judgement should be trusted in all matters culinary.


I'm curious what the issue is with eating horse meat?  Wiki didn't give me a good understanding, just explaining its taboo, and even illegal in some places.  Is it merely because we consider them "pets"?
2013-08-26 03:19:07 PM  
1 votes:
Can't we just establish a town for them all to live and work in?  ;)
2013-08-26 02:51:47 PM  
1 votes:
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