oh_please: Cheaper to buy a new one than to fix, simple as that. You're not gonna pay a tech 50+/hr plus parts to repair a monitor that's worth $20 at Goodwill, and you can buy one that's twice the size, easier on the eyes, and uses less energy for $200 or less (usually much less).
born_yesterday: Spend, don't mend!
No Such Agency: And add in some manufacturers who do everything they can to make their devices non-repairable, short of making them melt down if you open the case. In this day and age, knowing what we know about scarcity and sustainability, making a computer that's engineered to not outlive its own battery is just plain immoral.
oh_please: Important note: Don't give your nephew who's "good with electronic stuff" your old CRT monitor to take apart...just sayin'.
Quantum Apostrophe: Great, 3D printing will solve all these problems and more.Set your phasers to "awesome" cuz the future is now!/Note heavy sarcasm as I know full well how crap is really made and where it ends up
Treygreen13: Give a couple of meth-heads a screwdriver and tell them there's copper inside the giant pile of computers.
garlandsteve: Treygreen13: Give a couple of meth-heads a screwdriver and tell them there's copper inside the giant pile of computers.A former company I worked for was paying for a warehouse. They were storing whatever they didn't want to throw away. We (my boss and I) finally convinced the owner to get rid of this unneeded expense ($2000 monthly). We rented a large industrial dumpster and had it dropped off by the loading/unloading door. We had about a dozen or so old CRT's which we throw over the wall of this dumpster along with a lot of metal shelving and various other types of garbage.After several hours of chucking crap into this dumpster we called it a day. When we arrived the next morning the dumpster door was open. We looked inside and everything had been separated into piles. The CRT's had been opened and separated into parts including the broken glass swept into a pile. The metal shelves were torn apart and the metal was gone.My boss and I looked at each other with puzzled looks on our faces. We couldn't figure out what had happened since leaving the warehouse. We didn't really care since there wasn't a mess to clean up. We proceed to start throwing more crap into the dumpster.Then an 80's model beat to hell Ford Ranger parked behind the dumpster and some crack or meth addict climbed in and started ripping crap apart. Apparently he was the reason for what occurred the prior day. He pulled all the scrap metal out of everything he could and cleaned up his mess. He asked us if it was ok to keep going. We didn't care as he wasn't making a mess and we were simply throwing it away.It was probably 100 degrees outside and we kept throwing crap over the wall and into the dumpster. Dumpster Dave kept pulling whatever metals he could find out of our junk and putting it into the Ford truck. He was working his butt off for every scrap of metal he could find.I finally asked him how much he made from last nights haul. He made $40, put $5 in gas, bought a p ...
garlandsteve: Same here..I've put stuff out on the curb for the city to haul off. Fred and Lamont Sanford are in their 70's pickup truck hauling it off before I can get the front door open. It's mind boggling how fast those guys can grab that crap.
No Such Agency: TNel:No Such Agency:http://www.ifixit.com/ or, real "techies" don't replace their gear just because it's a little broken or not as cool anymore.See you have it all wrong real "techies" do replace their gear because it's a little broken because that's the excuse we use to justify the new purchase.Without engaging in a pissing contest, my suggestion is that's not a very "techy" thing to do. It seems like an attempt to cultivate the image of being "techy", without thinking about what that actually means.
namatad: but this perfectly describes the dumps in india. cheap labor sifts through the trash and extracts all value.we will always have cheap labor. there will always be trash.I have always thought that welfare should directly feed the trash/recycling process.You want your welfare check? no problem, 8 hours a day sort trash.Child care? no problem, bring your crotch spawn to work and they will sit in the daycare section./yes I know, it isnt PC to make people work for their checks
oh_please: born_yesterday: Spend, don't mend!I hate that mentality as well, but it doesn't make financial sense for the average person who has neither the tools nor the training to do the job themselves. Electronics like printers and monitors are throw-aways, unless you like to take things apart and screw around with them on your own time.Important note: Don't give your nephew who's "good with electronic stuff" your old CRT monitor to take apart...just sayin'.
ausfahrk: Aren't we on the verge of running out of all the exotic metals that go into that stuff? If so, this is a problem that will solve itself.(Disclaimer: The solution may or may not involve six billion people freezing to death when Tina Turner cuts off their methane supply.)
unyon: the waste stream will get decidedly lighter.
logieal: It's not always because a device is broken or even old that it's replaced. Worked for a company a couple of years ago that decided that they were upgrading everyone to new dual 22" monitors. Didn't matter that some people had nearly new monitors or that they were happy with what they had. Everyone was getting the exact same set up.Here's the back of the cargo van we filled with all the monitors that were removed. Every single one worked and was in relatively good to excellent condition, less than 2 or 3 years old at the time and not a single one was a CRT monitor. I asked what was going to become of them and they said they were going to be scrapped.[640x360 from http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w336/logieal/20100725_001.jpg image 640x360]There were a couple of 24" in there. Most were 19-22" already. But they wanted all new ones. More than 200 monitors I believe. The kicker? Some of the ones we removed were the exact same model as the one that replaced it, possibly only a few months older.
TNel: namatad: but this perfectly describes the dumps in india. cheap labor sifts through the trash and extracts all value.we will always have cheap labor. there will always be trash.I have always thought that welfare should directly feed the trash/recycling process.You want your welfare check? no problem, 8 hours a day sort trash.Child care? no problem, bring your crotch spawn to work and they will sit in the daycare section./yes I know, it isnt PC to make people work for their checksYES!! Let's bring back slave labor!
Sword and Shield: Is it fulfilling work? No. It needs done, though, and there are people who would be willing to do it.
M-G: I didn't see much piling up in TFA. Just lots of recycling facilities where things were being sorted for dismantling and reclamation.
oh_please: That company was dumb as dogshiat, they could have gotten AT LEAST 30 for the 19"s, 50 for the 22"s, and 75-100 for the 24"s, without even trying, assuming they were in working order.
doczoidberg: I save all of my old electronics in order to have backups.I have at least two of just about everything.Some call me an electronics hoarder. I call myself paranoid. Paranoid that my computer will die and I'll have to go weeks before I can afford a new one. Thus, I keep an older machine around at all times.If this Windows Seven badboy dies, then at least I can resort to my Windows Vista beast for a while.
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