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2013-08-26 04:51:17 PM  

Gimmick: My generation did "girls dancing in their underwear" way better.


Yeah, but generation before your generation did "modern youth an their morals" shtick much better than your generation
 
2013-08-26 04:52:46 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Car_Ramrod:
The old saying that a man who likes sex is a man, and a woman who likes sex is a whore misses the big picture and is archaic.

You're on a website mostly populated by people who couldn't get laid in high school.  There's a lot of pent up anger towards anyone getting it on.


Truth. I'm always hesitant to go into threads about anything related to feminism, because it seems they're mostly populated by the "Men's Rights" crowd. Threads on any female celebrity are especially depressing as any comments that aren't specifically "forced sexual innuendo, if you know what I mean" or about how they're either a whore (attention or otherwise), a prude/crazy woman that "can't keep a man", etc, gets met with accusations of white knighting. Because apparently the only reason not to be an asshole to a woman I've never met is in order to get laid. It's sad.
 
2013-08-26 04:56:12 PM  
i40.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-26 04:58:58 PM  
You need a little junk in your trunk (NSFW) to do it properly, Miley.
 
2013-08-26 05:00:11 PM  

InmanRoshi:  pute kisses like a man: InmanRoshi: browntimmy: InmanRoshi: gwowen: I liked her better when she was tweeting about liking the Flaming Lips.  That seemed genuine.

Also, acting like a whore is not particularly empowering.  Acting like a whore in order to sell records, even less so.

You sound old and white.

Expressing her feminine sexuality shows strength and courage, as long as men aren't looking at it and thinking evil lustful thoughts, then it's objectification and oppression or something, is that about right?

.But she's okay as long as she voices admiration for a band pre-approved by old white Gen-X geezers.

wait, does being gen-x make you a geezer now?

To 18 year olds, yes.


Someone gives a shiat about the opinion of 18 year olds? Besides marketing people?
 
2013-08-26 05:01:05 PM  
What the hell is a VMA?

And as for Miley Cyrus? I was more shocked that no one told her to not to slouch 30 degrees forward when on the red carpet.

www.blogcdn.com
 
2013-08-26 05:02:08 PM  
Stupid? This is Fark's fourth effing post about it today.
 
2013-08-26 05:04:25 PM  

Car_Ramrod: browntimmy: InmanRoshi: gwowen: I liked her better when she was tweeting about liking the Flaming Lips.  That seemed genuine.

Also, acting like a whore is not particularly empowering.  Acting like a whore in order to sell records, even less so.

You sound old and white.

Expressing her feminine sexuality shows strength and courage, as long as men aren't looking at it and thinking evil lustful thoughts, then it's objectification and oppression or something, is that about right?

Well, depending on her motives, using her sexuality as means to express herself can be quite empowering and liberating. Being proud of your body is healthy, and there's nothing contradictory between that and being in control of your self-worth. Even if you exploit the traditional views of sexuality in order to sell your music, and further your brand.

The old saying that a man who likes sex is a man, and a woman who likes sex is a whore misses the big picture and is archaic.


I really don't mind it very much, I like looking. I'm making the point that women don't just want to be seen as sex objects, but what is the overall message here besides "Look how sexy I am"? It's like a naked pole dancer wishing men would admire her gymnastic abilities.
 
2013-08-26 05:10:18 PM  
blog.zap2it.com

/And that is why I won't do two shows a night any more.
 
2013-08-26 05:12:12 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [700x824 from http://i40.tinypic.com/20zwkl3.jpg image 700x824]


So. what is that, the 7 Fingered Man?

/hello
 
2013-08-26 05:12:33 PM  
 
2013-08-26 05:14:05 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Party in the USA (Goat Edition).


Belly laughing and scaring my dog!
 
2013-08-26 05:17:04 PM  
Miley - 4 threads

MoH awarded - 0 threads

Stay classy, Fark.
 
2013-08-26 05:20:24 PM  
I didn't have any clue what this "twerking" was, so I looked it up.  From Wikipedia:

"Twerking was introduced into hip-hop culture by way of the New Orleans bounce music scene. In 1993, DJ Jubilee recorded the dance tune "Do The Jubilee All" in which he chanted, "Twerk baby, twerk baby, twerk, twerk, twerk." . . .A great amount of credit for the expansion of twerking outside of New Orleans can be given to strip clubs in Houston and Atlanta. Twerking was receiving recognition in national releases at least as early as the year 2000, when the Atlanta-based Ying Yang Twins released their debut single "Whistle While You Twurk."

I get it now.  This is a "dance move" made popular by strip clubs in the South.  Wow.  This does not do anything for me.
 
2013-08-26 05:26:09 PM  

browntimmy: Car_Ramrod: browntimmy: InmanRoshi: gwowen: I liked her better when she was tweeting about liking the Flaming Lips.  That seemed genuine.

Also, acting like a whore is not particularly empowering.  Acting like a whore in order to sell records, even less so.

You sound old and white.

Expressing her feminine sexuality shows strength and courage, as long as men aren't looking at it and thinking evil lustful thoughts, then it's objectification and oppression or something, is that about right?

Well, depending on her motives, using her sexuality as means to express herself can be quite empowering and liberating. Being proud of your body is healthy, and there's nothing contradictory between that and being in control of your self-worth. Even if you exploit the traditional views of sexuality in order to sell your music, and further your brand.

The old saying that a man who likes sex is a man, and a woman who likes sex is a whore misses the big picture and is archaic.

I really don't mind it very much, I like looking. I'm making the point that women don't just want to be seen as sex objects, but what is the overall message here besides "Look how sexy I am"? It's like a naked pole dancer wishing men would admire her gymnastic abilities.


In this one specific performance? The message was indeed "Look how sexy I am". But that doesn't mean this is the only way we can or should view her as a person. She, just like every person out there, has multiple facets to her personality. This was the time and place to emphasize her sexual side. Miley can't be expected, or required, to use a performance at the VMAs to show off her humor or intelligence. If your significant other uses a seduction routine on you, do you go, "Wow, you're only a whore who has no other qualities!" I hope not.

And to be clear, I don't think Miley is complaining about the attention she received, as other posters have noted. This is exactly the response she wanted. And in that sense, I feel this was probably very empowering for her. In that, "Wow, I got basically every major news organization to talk about my performance!" Whether or not they view it favorably isn't really the point. She accomplished her goal.
 
2013-08-26 05:26:54 PM  

Dr. Whoof: [549x579 from http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/miley-cyrus-beetlejuice-mtv-vma-2013-tum blr.jpg image 549x579]

/And that is why I won't do two shows a night any more.


I came on your daughter, Chuck.
 
2013-08-26 05:34:11 PM  

T-Boy: I didn't have any clue what this "twerking" was, so I looked it up.  From Wikipedia:

"Twerking was introduced into hip-hop culture by way of the New Orleans bounce music scene. In 1993, DJ Jubilee recorded the dance tune "Do The Jubilee All" in which he chanted, "Twerk baby, twerk baby, twerk, twerk, twerk." . . .A great amount of credit for the expansion of twerking outside of New Orleans can be given to strip clubs in Houston and Atlanta. Twerking was receiving recognition in national releases at least as early as the year 2000, when the Atlanta-based Ying Yang Twins released their debut single "Whistle While You Twurk."

I get it now.  This is a "dance move" made popular by strip clubs in the South.  Wow.  This does not do anything for me.


There's this weird thing in our culture. When a "Who Let the Dogs Out?" craze comes along and you recognize it as retarded, you're a stuck-up old fogey.Then two years later you have people going, "Can you ever believe we thought Who Let the Dogs Out was cool?" I think the bigger problem is people immediately hitching their wagons to anything that comes along for fear of not being seen as with it.
 
2013-08-26 05:36:07 PM  

freak7: Miley - 4 threads

MoH awarded - 0 threads

Stay classy, Fark.


Fark is, sadly, hardly the only such media outlet acting that way. How many reports on SSgt Carter are there on the tv news? How many discussions of COIN strategy in Afghanistan and PTSD legacies, versus twerking debates?
 
2013-08-26 05:36:16 PM  
The only thing that offended me was her hanging her tongue out because she looked idiotic. And those dancing pedobears. Fark those things.
 
2013-08-26 05:37:02 PM  

Funbags: I just watched the video.

I remember watching footage of a Madonna concert some 10+ years ago, where during the show she had a bed pushed out on the stage and she basically simulated masturbating to orgasm.

While crass and feckless, let's not pretend hypersexualized "performances" are reaching any new lows of decency, just keeping it where it has been. And more importantly, making sure everyone is talking about it the next day. Which the media is.

/to lower the bar, someone's going to have to get inseminated.
//next year's VMA show?


It was a wedding cake, and it was the first MTV video awards.  Like 1981 or so.
 
2013-08-26 05:38:40 PM  

xalres: Personally, I'm more offended that Robin Thicke has a career. Who the fark let that happen?


The same people that allowed Alan Thicke to have a career.
 
2013-08-26 05:40:05 PM  

zabadu: xalres: Personally, I'm more offended that Robin Thicke has a career. Who the fark let that happen?

The same people that allowed Alan Thicke to have a career.


I'm just pissed no one's made him record a cover of the "Growing Pains" theme song yet.
 
2013-08-26 05:42:56 PM  

browntimmy: T-Boy: I didn't have any clue what this "twerking" was, so I looked it up.  From Wikipedia:

"Twerking was introduced into hip-hop culture by way of the New Orleans bounce music scene. In 1993, DJ Jubilee recorded the dance tune "Do The Jubilee All" in which he chanted, "Twerk baby, twerk baby, twerk, twerk, twerk." . . .A great amount of credit for the expansion of twerking outside of New Orleans can be given to strip clubs in Houston and Atlanta. Twerking was receiving recognition in national releases at least as early as the year 2000, when the Atlanta-based Ying Yang Twins released their debut single "Whistle While You Twurk."

I get it now.  This is a "dance move" made popular by strip clubs in the South.  Wow.  This does not do anything for me.

There's this weird thing in our culture. When a "Who Let the Dogs Out?" craze comes along and you recognize it as retarded, you're a stuck-up old fogey.Then two years later you have people going, "Can you ever believe we thought Who Let the Dogs Out was cool?" I think the bigger problem is people immediately hitching their wagons to anything that comes along for fear of not being seen as with it.


well, new orleans bounce is a slightly more robust musical movement.  having gone to a few bounce parties, i can say that, while i don't like people twerking in the media and basically anywhere outside of new orleans, it is perfectly acceptable at a bounce party.  i could be wrong, but at least at the bounce parties I've been to, there's a certain combination of physical mastery and self-deprecating humor involved in the twerk.  a kind of low/high dance of our human comedy
 
2013-08-26 05:46:05 PM  

pute kisses like a man: i could be wrong, but at least at the bounce parties I've been to, there's a certain combination of physical mastery and self-deprecating humor involved in the twerk.


Well, it had to happen eventually: a twerk-snob.
 
2013-08-26 05:47:31 PM  

Cybernetic: goatleggedfellow: Slim, white girls are prone to a genetic disorder called "flat-butt".

Slim white girls and Aisha Tyler (possibly NSFW).


That video is just one more reason to be an Aisha Tyler fan.
 
2013-08-26 05:48:39 PM  

InmanRoshi: browntimmy: InmanRoshi: gwowen: I liked her better when she was tweeting about liking the Flaming Lips.  That seemed genuine.

Also, acting like a whore is not particularly empowering.  Acting like a whore in order to sell records, even less so.

You sound old and white.

Expressing her feminine sexuality shows strength and courage, as long as men aren't looking at it and thinking evil lustful thoughts, then it's objectification and oppression or something, is that about right?

.But she's okay as long as she voices admiration for a band pre-approved by old white Gen-X geezers.


What's with your fixation on race?
 
2013-08-26 05:49:19 PM  
Those shorts were so tight that her camel toe turned into a Vulcan salute
 
2013-08-26 05:53:23 PM  

Mad_Radhu: [407x215 from http://blogs.babycenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/407x215xBSktaSK CEAAbl3S.png.pagespeed.ic.omRfZIAcME.png image 407x215]


"Oh! That poor woman has the  saddest ass. Damned depressing."

"Right! Yeah, it's like  The Notebook sad."

"That ass is like coming home from school and finding out your old man ran over your cat sad."

"Mournful. She has a mournful ass. They're like a suicide note stuffed in to rubber panties."

"That ass is like a little kid with progeria cracking all his ribs trying to catch a Nerf ball. Just sad. Damnit she has a gloomy ass!"

"It's like she put a dollars worth of change into some old socks and then taped 'em to backside!"

"I wanna build two little caskets and give her ass cheeks a tasteful, dignified funeral."


You get a million 'funny' for this, and extra funny for your Transmet-inspired nick.
 
2013-08-26 05:53:39 PM  
Sigh. Macklemore brings it, presents a great song about tolerance and change that also points a finger at modern hip-hop, all done very tastefully, and yet, we have 4 threads on Miley Plasticpants Cyrus.

She's apparently what we deserve.
 
2013-08-26 05:55:00 PM  

MadAzza: InmanRoshi: browntimmy: InmanRoshi: gwowen: I liked her better when she was tweeting about liking the Flaming Lips.  That seemed genuine.

Also, acting like a whore is not particularly empowering.  Acting like a whore in order to sell records, even less so.

You sound old and white.

Expressing her feminine sexuality shows strength and courage, as long as men aren't looking at it and thinking evil lustful thoughts, then it's objectification and oppression or something, is that about right?

.But she's okay as long as she voices admiration for a band pre-approved by old white Gen-X geezers.

What's with your fixation on race?


Yeah, what about powerful old black Gen-X geezer demographic?
 
2013-08-26 06:01:20 PM  

zabadu: Funbags: I just watched the video.

I remember watching footage of a Madonna concert some 10+ years ago, where during the show she had a bed pushed out on the stage and she basically simulated masturbating to orgasm.

While crass and feckless, let's not pretend hypersexualized "performances" are reaching any new lows of decency, just keeping it where it has been. And more importantly, making sure everyone is talking about it the next day. Which the media is.

/to lower the bar, someone's going to have to get inseminated.
//next year's VMA show?

It was a wedding cake, and it was the first MTV video awards.  Like 1981 or so.


Madonna did a redux of "Like A Virgin" for one of her later concert tours, where she writhed around to a slow version of the song, and simulated masturbation on a big red bed. Not the wedding cake walk to the stage, which was 20-something years earlier.
 
2013-08-26 06:03:07 PM  

MadAzza: InmanRoshi: browntimmy: InmanRoshi: gwowen: I liked her better when she was tweeting about liking the Flaming Lips.  That seemed genuine.

Also, acting like a whore is not particularly empowering.  Acting like a whore in order to sell records, even less so.

You sound old and white.

Expressing her feminine sexuality shows strength and courage, as long as men aren't looking at it and thinking evil lustful thoughts, then it's objectification and oppression or something, is that about right?

.But she's okay as long as she voices admiration for a band pre-approved by old white Gen-X geezers.

What's with your fixation on race?


It's okay to be a bigot when you're being COOL doing it.
 
2013-08-26 06:03:54 PM  
The Madonna video Funbags was probably referring to is here
 
2013-08-26 06:05:42 PM  
 
2013-08-26 06:08:38 PM  
I never had any interest in her till this. She can do that on my penis anytime
 
2013-08-26 06:16:29 PM  

T-Boy: I didn't have any clue what this "twerking" was, so I looked it up.  From Wikipedia:

"Twerking was introduced into hip-hop culture by way of the New Orleans bounce music scene. In 1993, DJ Jubilee recorded the dance tune "Do The Jubilee All" in which he chanted, "Twerk baby, twerk baby, twerk, twerk, twerk." . . .A great amount of credit for the expansion of twerking outside of New Orleans can be given to strip clubs in Houston and Atlanta. Twerking was receiving recognition in national releases at least as early as the year 2000, when the Atlanta-based Ying Yang Twins released their debut single "Whistle While You Twurk."

I get it now.  This is a "dance move" made popular by strip clubs in the South.  Wow.  This does not do anything for me.


I have only heard it referred to as twerking n the last year or so but about 20 years ago I bounced at a strip club and it was considered basic move.
Incidentally, my vet charged me $230 to get my dog, Bubbles, to stop doing it every other week.
 
2013-08-26 06:22:55 PM  

fusillade762: Let Me Explain Why Miley Cyrus' VMA Performance Was Our Top Story This Morning


That was awesome. Thanks.
 
2013-08-26 06:29:05 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: [640x960 from http://img.fark.net/images/cache/850/e/eE/fark_eEg3LH_aiWpGOESS32ra43H lbRQ.jpg?t=hp_ViPdYEkWXKi_LVROygw&f=1378094400 image 640x960]

[850x811 from http://image.food-stock-images.com/rz_1205x1205/2/56b/Raw-Chicken-Isol ated-On-White-256ba7e.jpg image 850x811]


That...that is a most unfortunate looking ass.
 
2013-08-26 06:30:18 PM  
Once again, a white musician has discovered that the best way to cheap press and profit is to ape black social taboos. This formula never fails to work.

www.jesus-is-savior.com
 
2013-08-26 06:36:39 PM  
Four threads in one day? Miley got just what she wanted.
 
2013-08-26 06:49:15 PM  

MadAzza: zabadu: Funbags: I just watched the video.

I remember watching footage of a Madonna concert some 10+ years ago, where during the show she had a bed pushed out on the stage and she basically simulated masturbating to orgasm.

While crass and feckless, let's not pretend hypersexualized "performances" are reaching any new lows of decency, just keeping it where it has been. And more importantly, making sure everyone is talking about it the next day. Which the media is.

/to lower the bar, someone's going to have to get inseminated.
//next year's VMA show?

It was a wedding cake, and it was the first MTV video awards.  Like 1981 or so.

Madonna did a redux of "Like A Virgin" for one of her later concert tours, where she writhed around to a slow version of the song, and simulated masturbation on a big red bed. Not the wedding cake walk to the stage, which was 20-something years earlier.


Well as you can see, I don't follow Madonna's tour.
 
2013-08-26 06:59:39 PM  

T-Servo: freak7: Miley - 4 threads

MoH awarded - 0 threads

Stay classy, Fark.

Fark is, sadly, hardly the only such media outlet acting that way. How many reports on SSgt Carter are there on the tv news? How many discussions of COIN strategy in Afghanistan and PTSD legacies, versus twerking debates?


All the 24hr news stations covered the ceremony live. The NBC nightly news did a piece on him with an interview.

Then as I type this, the nightly news runs a longer piece on this whole Cyrus thing...sigh
 
2013-08-26 07:04:31 PM  

zabadu: MadAzza: zabadu: Funbags: I just watched the video.

I remember watching footage of a Madonna concert some 10+ years ago, where during the show she had a bed pushed out on the stage and she basically simulated masturbating to orgasm.

While crass and feckless, let's not pretend hypersexualized "performances" are reaching any new lows of decency, just keeping it where it has been. And more importantly, making sure everyone is talking about it the next day. Which the media is.

/to lower the bar, someone's going to have to get inseminated.
//next year's VMA show?

It was a wedding cake, and it was the first MTV video awards.  Like 1981 or so.

Madonna did a redux of "Like A Virgin" for one of her later concert tours, where she writhed around to a slow version of the song, and simulated masturbation on a big red bed. Not the wedding cake walk to the stage, which was 20-something years earlier.

Well as you can see, I don't follow Madonna's tour. Oh, sorry, I was wrong. Thanks for clearing that up.


FTFY
 
2013-08-26 07:11:00 PM  

T-Boy: I didn't have any clue what this "twerking" was, so I looked it up.  From Wikipedia:

"Twerking was introduced into hip-hop culture by way of the New Orleans bounce music scene. In 1993, DJ Jubilee recorded the dance tune "Do The Jubilee All" in which he chanted, "Twerk baby, twerk baby, twerk, twerk, twerk." . . .A great amount of credit for the expansion of twerking outside of New Orleans can be given to strip clubs in Houston and Atlanta. Twerking was receiving recognition in national releases at least as early as the year 2000, when the Atlanta-based Ying Yang Twins released their debut single "Whistle While You Twurk."

I get it now.  This is a "dance move" made popular by strip clubs in the South.  Wow.  This does not do anything for me.


http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/yingyan gtwins/whistlewhileyoutwerk.html NSFW

If you haven't seen the lyrics to the Ying Yang twins rap, Whistle While You Twurk, maybe that will do something for you.
 
2013-08-26 07:11:22 PM  

Hebalo: Sigh. Macklemore brings it, presents a great song about tolerance and change that also points a finger at modern hip-hop, all done very tastefully, and yet, we have 4 threads on Miley Plasticpants Cyrus.

She's apparently what we deserve.


Agreed.  Not to mention a hard working, great performance by JT.

However the best performance of the night that is getting no recognition, was the performance by Bruno Mars, who always brings it.  He destroyed Gorilla, and it was the only performance of the night I rewatched. Just a masterful performance all around.
 
2013-08-26 07:17:12 PM  

Hebalo: Sigh. Macklemore brings it, presents a great song about tolerance and change that also points a finger at modern hip-hop, all done very tastefully, and yet, we have 4 threads on Miley Plasticpants Cyrus.

She's apparently what we deserve.


Macklemore's song is the most tiresome, over-done, self-flagellatory lump of choir preaching since the movie "Crash". It doesn't reach anyone that needs to hear the message, but gives white, liberal college students another reason to revel in their own tolerance. Eminem's public stunts were more impressive. A single quote from Jay-Z is more meaningful than anything Macklemore could ever do.
 
2013-08-26 07:33:29 PM  

Dr. Whoof: /And that is why I won't do two shows a night any more.


Putting Lydia in the audience is farking brilliant.

/if that's yours, bravo
 
2013-08-26 07:36:29 PM  

Zul the Magnificent: That...that is a most unfortunate looking ass.


Won't somebody think of Miley's balloon knot?
 
2013-08-26 08:18:37 PM  
Why are people acting like twerking is a new think? Black chicks have been doing it for a while now.
 
2013-08-26 08:43:29 PM  

Invisible Pedestrian: Dr. Whoof: /And that is why I won't do two shows a night any more.

Putting Lydia in the audience is farking brilliant.

/if that's yours, bravo


Alas it is not, but was just too good not to post.
 
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