Superjew: Hey, after reading tons of WWII military history, I spent a lot of time wondering what would have happened had Hitler not been stupid enough to cavalierly toss away several game-winning opportunities.
Trance354: So, yes when you travel back in time to kill Hitler, he doesn't serve in the first war, doesn't earn distinction in battle, and also doesn't make the blunders at the end of the war. Like pissing on his friend Stalin, or continuing the same attack strategy, even though the Allies figured out a counter for it. Instead you have a competent commander who makes the treaty with Russia stand, honors it, and doesn't make the treaty with Japan, because their Russian allies hate the Japanese. Pearl harbor is averted, but the Russians invade Alaska. Idiots in the USA decide that the Russians must be expelled, and trigger the worst idea possible: sending the army into Alaska. Millions die because no one thinks about how well the Russians operate in that climate. Canada becomes the new front of the war, with vast swaths of forest burned in efforts to kill the Russian menace. Millions die in "accidental" fires, but the Russians show no sign of retreat, despite the new pact with the Japanese, on behalf of the Americans. A final solution is worked outwith the Canadians, and troops are moved to a sage distance as Big Boy and his little brother are unleashed on first the troops(in the millions) still on Canadian soil, and then in a heavily coordinated strike on Moscow. In return for their help, the Japanese are given the honor of turning Stalingrad into dust.Japan and America march into the twilight of the 20th century as allies, with Russia and Siberia parceled up between the Allies. Germany, after faking the war's beginning and murdering and pillaging through Europe, is broken up and permanently turned into an agrarian society... Hitler is caught and tried for war crimes, as is Stalin and both their cabinets. All of them are sent to the gulag in Siberia, run by the Japanese, and forgotten. Italy is given over to French rule, for crimes committed in wartime.
Satanic_Hamster: Eh. Can't be as bad as Volkswagen.[500x282 from http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2492/3788951530_60491bb2dd.jpg image 500x282]
b33rnutz: hardinparamedic: Not really. I'd shoot kid Hitler in the face if I knew what he was going to become.Reminds me of Minority Report. These popped up in my head:"Mr. Hilter, by mandate of the District of Columbia Precrime Division, I'm placing you under arrest for the future murder of thousands of jew that was to take place between 1939 and 1945.""Sometimes, in order to see the light, you have to risk the dark." - The best of us comes out during the worst of times. Karma? Ying vs. Yang? If there was no evil act there would be no kind acts. Who knows... who knows..."In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king." - Remember hindsight is 20/20.
Superjew: hardinparamedic: Not really. I'd shoot kid Hitler in the face if I knew what he was going to become.So you'd rather that the empire-hungry Germany of the 1930's be led by a competent and non-self-destructive megalomaniac instead?Rule 1 Of Alternate Worlds: What You Don't Know Is Always Worse.
Ned Stark: Satanic_Hamster: Eh. Can't be as bad as Volkswagen.Not sure if war joke or poles steal cars joke.
Satanic_Hamster: Eh. Can't be as bad as Volkswagen.
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