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(WCNC Charlotte)   Today's high school shooting comes to you courtesy of a York County Sheriff deputy getting into an altercation with the sidewalk   (wcnc.com) divider line 36
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2013-08-26 01:58:58 PM
Well he told it not to move and it did.
 
2013-08-26 02:05:45 PM
www.everydaynodaysoff.com
 
2013-08-26 02:10:50 PM
FTFY FTFA: The deputy has been removed from the campus and placed on administrative leave pending an investigation and, after the heat dies down, the deputy will be located away from the campus.
 
2013-08-26 02:23:13 PM
"Look at me kids, I'm a badass.  I get to carry a ... ah crap"
 
2013-08-26 02:30:55 PM
If only there had been a kind and compassionate person there to talk him out of it.
 
2013-08-26 02:32:11 PM
It's impossible to accidentally discharge a firearm. It's 100% possible to negligently discharge a firearm.

And another thing; it's impossible to discharge a firearm while cleaning it. Even the most slipshod cleaning methods require the slide to be open or cylinder removed.
 
2013-08-26 02:37:47 PM
Andy's not going to be happy.
 
2013-08-26 02:39:35 PM

iheartscotch: And another thing; it's impossible to discharge a firearm while cleaning it. Even the most slipshod cleaning methods require the slide to be open or cylinder removed.


There's more to clean than the inside of the barrel.
 
2013-08-26 02:42:25 PM

iheartscotch: And another thing; it's impossible to discharge a firearm while cleaning it. Even the most slipshod cleaning methods require the slide to be open or cylinder removed.


I have this Glock...
 
2013-08-26 02:42:57 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: iheartscotch: And another thing; it's impossible to discharge a firearm while cleaning it. Even the most slipshod cleaning methods require the slide to be open or cylinder removed.

There's more to clean than the inside of the barrel.


Notice, I said the most slipshod?

I am well aware there is more to clean than the inside of the barrel. I'm just commenting on the impossibility of discharging a gun while actually cleaning it.
 
2013-08-26 02:43:50 PM
I've said it before. Cops are too irresponsible to have guns.
 
2013-08-26 02:46:48 PM

iheartscotch: It's impossible to accidentally discharge a firearm. It's 100% possible to negligently discharge a firearm.


Accidental firearm discharges are possible, but only if the firearm is mechanically defective or damaged.
 
2013-08-26 02:51:33 PM
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You know it's coming soon
 
2013-08-26 02:52:30 PM

Dimensio: iheartscotch: It's impossible to accidentally discharge a firearm. It's 100% possible to negligently discharge a firearm.

Accidental firearm discharges are possible, but only if the firearm is mechanically defective or damaged.


Granted; but, it is impossible to accidentally discharge a properly made and maintained firearm.

The only firearm, that I can think of off of the top of my head, that will do it consistently is the Japanise nambu and then only the ones made towards the end of the Second World War.

/ just don't squeeze the handle too hard

// I'm sure that there are other examples
 
2013-08-26 02:59:50 PM
"Accidental" simply means "unintentional".
 
2013-08-26 03:00:23 PM
Most cops dont have firearms training equivalent to most 12 year old kids where i live.
 
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2013-08-26 03:10:45 PM
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Barney trying to impress the kids, explaining the finer points of gun safety.
 
2013-08-26 03:38:34 PM
So it was in the holster and discharged, they don't know why, and the officer is on leave pending investigation?  It looks to me like a defective firearm or inappropriate holster.
 
2013-08-26 03:41:22 PM
Came for Barney Fife.

Leaving for a drink with Otis.
 
2013-08-26 03:41:49 PM
The York County Sheriff's Office says the accidental discharge of his .40 caliber Glock 22 is "puzzling", and calls it "an abnormal event".

Always keep one in the chamber. Never know when some little shiat will try to cut class
 
2013-08-26 03:56:28 PM
1) Gun was in the holster
2) Gun was a Glock 22

That gun should not have been able to go off unless someone seriously screwed with the internal mechanics.  I have to suspect that either a finger was in the trigger (or it was pressed by some other means), or the cop tried to modify his gun, and screwed it up.  There are not many guns that can fire a round without the trigger being pulled.
 
2013-08-26 03:58:38 PM
The York County Sheriff's Office says the accidental discharge of his .40 caliber Glock 22 is "puzzling", and calls it "an abnormal event".

There is nothing puzzling about negligence.
 
2013-08-26 03:59:39 PM
LOL.  "Cougar Plaza" where mom's drop off their kids.  My day is complete.  Who named it that?  The kids?
 
2013-08-26 04:03:54 PM
This is why only trained professionals should be allowed to handle firearms near a school...
 
2013-08-26 04:07:20 PM

orbister: "Accidental" simply means "unintentional".


Just to clarify, when referring to firearms and the intentions a person has at the moment said firearm discharges a round, it is important to note when negligence is involved.

1) was the officer accidentally negligent in the manipulation of the firearm, and therefore actively involved in the mechanics that caused the gun to fire? if yes default to the term "negligent discharge"
or
2) was there a failure in the mechanics that caused the gun to fire without the officer manipulating the weapon?  If this is the case, please default to the term "accidental discharge"
 
2013-08-26 04:12:46 PM
davidab:   There are not many guns that can fire a round without the trigger being pulled.

Right, that's Remington's patent.

/700
 
2013-08-26 04:14:21 PM

davidab: 1) Gun was in the holster
2) Gun was a Glock 22

That gun should not have been able to go off unless someone seriously screwed with the internal mechanics.  I have to suspect that either a finger was in the trigger (or it was pressed by some other means), or the cop tried to modify his gun, and screwed it up.  There are not many guns that can fire a round without the trigger being pulled.


I live in York County, and knowing this area, he had probably screwed with the internals. It gets a little redneck around here.
 
2013-08-26 04:22:06 PM

neritz: davidab: 1) Gun was in the holster
2) Gun was a Glock 22

That gun should not have been able to go off unless someone seriously screwed with the internal mechanics.  I have to suspect that either a finger was in the trigger (or it was pressed by some other means), or the cop tried to modify his gun, and screwed it up.  There are not many guns that can fire a round without the trigger being pulled.

I live in York County, and knowing this area, he had probably screwed with the internals. It gets a little redneck around here.


Cutting down the main spring to a 2oz trigger pull is a common cop tactic.

Dunno about anyone else...but a bunch of wannabe Rambo cops with firearms with feather light triggers is unnerving.

Should have a rule against cops altering their firearms to make it easier to fire by just barely touching the trigger.

But then again, having it require a deliberate pull of the trigger makes it harder for them to kill someone so...
 
2013-08-26 05:14:46 PM
The 312 pound double action trigger pull on my cheapest pistol becomes easy once the blood gets pumping from a simple run.  I can only imagine what an adrenalin dump caused by the beginning of a gunfight would do to my ability to pull the trigger.  No way I can justify fancy trigger jobs (or homemade trigger jobs) on patrol service weapons.
 
2013-08-26 05:23:14 PM

Comic Book Guy: davidab:   There are not many guns that can fire a round without the trigger being pulled.

Right, that's Remington's patent.

/700


You do know that the "journalists" that did that particular piece had their people lowered the trigger weight substantially on those rifles? The result was the "malfunction" you saw.

And most of the "soldiers" that appeared in that piece were actors? The US military wouldn't allow actual soldiers to be associated with something that made the military look bad.

/ the whole thing was a misleading piece of garbage
 
2013-08-26 05:39:16 PM
Proper police response procedures for entering a home:
1) Kill any dogs
2) Enter and subdue all occupants, with the maximum amount of prejudice available
3) Verify address
4) Falsify report, take 6 weeks off, paid, while IAD "investigates".
5) repeat as needed until you can claim disability at full pension for stress caused by shooting unarmed, innocent civilians
6) Profit
 
2013-08-26 05:46:45 PM
I don't think it was unintentional or accidental as I still hold a grudge against sidewalks myself. When I was a child the sidewalk was a daily source my mother's back being broken to say nothing of my father's spine being crushed.
 
2013-08-26 05:56:28 PM
High schoolers?  Next to Cougar Plaza?

Dreams do come true.
 
2013-08-26 06:08:55 PM
"Deputy Dave"?

Sure it wasn't "Deputy Doofy"?
 
2013-08-26 10:29:24 PM

HisBoyLeroy: I don't think it was unintentional or accidental as I still hold a grudge against sidewalks myself. When I was a child the sidewalk was a daily source my mother's back being broken to say nothing of my father's spine being crushed.


Wait, what? I get the "mother's back" thing, but wtf is with the "father's spine"?
 
2013-08-26 10:59:00 PM
"Enter and subdue all occupants"    eww...

in what order?
 
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