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2013-08-27 09:23:18 AM
2 votes:

CapnPlaty: ShiningWizard: tbaughm: ShiningWizard: tbaughm: I missed the last two hours of RAW...and from what I'm gathering, it seems like the only thing I've watched (AJ's promo) is the only thing that wasn't completely foreshadowed in the first hour. Yes?

Pretty much this. If they would have given the end more than just a scrum after 1 decent match with Rollins it would have been good. I understand not wanting to wear out DBD but you don't put Ambrose in a match then have him lose in 22 seconds, EVAR!!!

AJ dorpping the best promo in women's history was worth waiting the entire show for though. I may be a liiiiiiittle biased on that one though. Just a little.

tiny bit
really

Seriously though. Punk was praising the promo on Twitter this morning.

Not surprising. I know AJ is fully capable on the mic but if you had told me that Punk or Heyman wrote that for her I would not have been overly stunned. She really nailed the delivery and was less like the crazy schoolgirl and played more of the sinister heel champ. It was exactly the character path that Tenor and I were saying they should take with her a few weeks back

Best part about it was even though it was a heel delivery it was cheered by the crowd. I agree with her fully, of the Divas she is more of a role model than the Bellas (maybe not her psycho girlfriend persona), and she should definitely get CM Punk level props for telling it like it is.

Sadly, since the WWE are amped with the Total Divas show, AJ will probably end up dropping the belt to one of them at NOC.


The only acceptable person for her to drop it to would be Nattie. Anything else would be a disappointment.
2013-08-27 10:28:12 PM
1 votes:

tbaughm: IAmTheTagTeamChampions: clintster: 1979 - Ric Flair (with a broken freakin' nose) cuts a promo on Greg Valentine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb6q-Fh11eU

Since we're discussing and linking great promos...

Allow me to one up that.


A promo from the smartest athelete the University of Michigan ever produced. XD
2013-08-27 10:21:02 PM
1 votes:

clintster: 1979 - Ric Flair (with a broken freakin' nose) cuts a promo on Greg Valentine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb6q-Fh11eU


Since we're discussing and linking great promos...
2013-08-27 09:57:39 PM
1 votes:

Karate Explosion: Oh. That's awfully sweet of him.

I hate him slightly less than the rest. He must not be a full time wrestling fan

So.... Can I contest it? It's like winning the belt on a double count out.

I WAS ROBBED.

I was so gonna take a picture, print it, burn the picture, take a picture of the burning title, then post it.

Wow... Typing that just made me realize how much effort that would be.


And this is how I know you're a true wrestling fan.

2.bp.blogspot.com
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
2013-08-27 07:08:08 PM
1 votes:
Speaking of Jim Crockett Promotions....

www.midatlanticgateway.com

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This one doesn't get mentioned a whole lot. It used to be the secondary title in JCP before Crockett gained control of the NWA World title.

Pat O'Connor was the first Mid-Atlantic Champion. The Mid-Atlantic was called the Eastern Championship then, which was the top title in the territory in those days. O'Connor was a technical style wrestler, not much different from Verne Gagne and Lou Thesz. O'Connor was a New Zealander who'd competed in amateur tournaments prior to turning pro.  He was the top dog in the NWA for a time after Thesz's heyday was over. He was also the first AWA World Champion. By the time he won the Mid-Atlantic title in 1970, O'Connor had already been at the wrestling game for over 20 years. So I take it based on his age at the time he was an old hand who was trusted to make the belt a big deal in the Mid-Atlantic promotion, and put over a younger wrestler, which he did. The Missouri Mauler was the 2nd Mid-Atlantic Champion, beating O'Connor that October.

The early days of the Eastern belt reads like a who's who of JCP: Mauler, Jack Brisco (Eventually a NWA World Champ himself), Rip Hawk (A big-time heel in that area who would mentor Ric Flair), and Ole Anderson.

Jerry Brisco - whom you no doubt remember from his WWF days as one of Vince's "stooges," but was really an adept booker and agent - was the Eastern Champ when the title was renamed the, "Mid-Atlantic Championship." This is also when names like Wahoo McDaniel, Ric Flair, Johnny Valentine and Paul Jones start showing up in the title lineage. These guys were a mix of journeymen, rising stars and old hands. Tony Atlas, for example, was a rising talent in those days, and had a turn or two with the belt. Roddy Piper, same deal. Ivan Koloff and Ray Stevens though had already hit their peak when they held the Mid-Atlantic title.

The thing I notice about the Mid-Atlantic title's lineage is that in the 80s, it definitely became an oldtimer's and midcarder's belt, as in one you'd give to a vet or solid worker, but it was no longer used to elevate talent like it had in the 70s. Ivan Koloff held the belt several times in the 80s, well after his peak years in the 60s and 70s. Ron Bass was another career midcarder who held it. Black Bart and Sam Houston (Jake Roberts' brother) also held the strap in the 80s, and were never huge fixtures in the expanding Jim Crockett Promotions back then.

In 1986, Ron Garvin had the belt, and he ditched it after winning the NWA US Tag titles w/ Barry Windham. So like that, the belt was phased out with no fanfare.

Right now WWE could be using its US title, which is the exact same NWA US title Luckless has been profiling, to elevate talent and reward old hands. I guess they still are in a way, but it's not helping when people thought a US title for Dean Ambrose was a step  downfor him.
2013-08-27 01:37:29 PM
1 votes:
Sort of on-topic: On this day, in 1993, Shane Douglas told the NWA to go f**k themselves.
2013-08-27 01:17:30 PM
1 votes:

eddievercetti: Also, again non TV matches, Punk/Axel, DBD/SHIELD and Pipebombshell were the highlights.

/Also please, Nattie/AJ feud, I don't care if it involves Total Divas, PLEASE!


So much this!

I'm almost afraid to even hope for AJ vs. Natty feud that I will somehow jinx it. As for current female wrestlers, this is my dream matchup. I know they have had matches before but a real feud over the title? *squeels!*
2013-08-27 12:01:03 PM
1 votes:
i gotta say that last night was an overall good show. even my wife was impressed with seth rollins and dbd in their match. the overrun and zeb colter were both a little disconcerting but are advancing storylines. at some point ptp will hold the tag belts and the real americans will be their foils. AJ gave a quality promo that will hopefully shed her crazy gf bit for good.

the npo vs pony bit seems to be winding down. but verbaltoxin played out a great angle last night. well done!
2013-08-27 09:32:57 AM
1 votes:
My Raw Review

YEScalade

The opener did a lot of things. It once again established Triple H as the world's biggest heel - except this time, he has an actual babyface foil in Daniel Bryan. A common criticism of his heel run from 2002-2003 was there was no real competition for Evolution, because all the would-be competitors got squashed. Bryan, on the other hand, thrives in the way Ricky Steamboat did, and that's through massive beatdowns that soak up sympathy from the audience, and then coming back for more. It's defined Bryan's character during his entire WWE run - name one time where he wasn't being fed sh*t just to see if he liked the taste.

Now, the Escalade. I think I'm not alone when I say a Cadillac Escalade is just about the tackiest, douchiest, out of style car one could gift to another. On the thoughtfulness scale, buying someone an Escalade in 2013 is like buying them a Rainbow vacuum. So Orton, whom with his tribal arm tattoos we expect to pump Nickelback loudly through an Escalade sound system, was appropriately douchey accepting the gift.

I really have no complaints about Orton's role in this storyline. For the first time in a while, he's playing to type, and that's a thuggish opportunist who has always thought more of himself than others thought of him. Remember the RNN updates? Remember his arrogance during the Legend Killer run? He's not quite that smarmy yet, but don't be surprised if he becomes that way. Also, I really want to see Daniel Bryan put another kendo stick across his face.

As for Bryan's involvement, well I think we all saw his role in this coming - shades of Kofi Kingston, he was going to ruin the SUV. I also expected the gauntlet match, because hey, why else would the Shield be out there other than to be hired thugs? (BTW, The Shield already proved they're sellouts when they worked on Paul Heyman's payrole just this year. So you can quiet down with your smark rage now.)

Cody Rhodes/Miz/Fandango/Sandow/Summer Rae's legs

I suspect we're getting two matches out of this for NOC, and one will be on the pre-show (Probably The Miz's match). The Rhodes/Sandow feud has to eventually involve the briefcase. It's the only thing left to settle between them. The Miz and Fandango seem like they are just working towards the "cool down" slot on the card, so I expect lots of comedy and trolling between the two. It's not like it hasn't been all bad, either. For what it is, I like how Miz and Fandango try to one-up each other. Their douchiness kind of questions why they aren't a tag team, actually, unless you consider there's only room for one ego in the room at a time.

BURN

Is all I can say about Christian's promo. Too bad he's JTTS or I would've taken this more seriously. But it's sure nice when we see glimpses of the old Capt. Charisma.

"Like my life depended on it!"

It's too bad there isn't a brand split anymore, where Curtis Axel could work on Smackdown and hone his skills. He's given great exposure on Raw but little to do, and little time to improve his line delivery and promo work. He just isn't much of a promo guy, and the one skill he's said to have, WWE won't showcase.

Axel vs. Punk

This ending did Axel no favors. It was also very awkward with Paul Heyman's screaming (And later crying) but I think it was supposed to be. WWE is trying to deliver a serious, emotional feud that's tearing Heyman apart. He's showing that while he loves being vengeful and petty, this time it's not so easy for him. Punk actually does matter a lot to him, but Punk is never going to trust him again. So we're headed for what appears to be the blow-off at NOC, with Axel being the muscle and not much else. I think his push will be in a lot of trouble after the ppv, and I'm not sure what they'll do with Heyman once this is over. WWE really needs a heel manager to develop some midcarders right now, so I hope their plan isn't just to write Heyman off TV with this angle (Though I suspect not since he tried to pin everything on Brock last night).

Pipe-Bomb-Shell

Okay I saw it too and loved it. I didn't mark as hard as Shining Wizard but yeah, it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that AJ Lee really is very talented, in spite of how she's usually booked. She never really gets credit for elevating the bad material they constantly give her. She's always portrayed as lovestruck and crazy, and yet she sells the sh*t out of those things with no hint of irony. So this promo, and the Punk comparisons which followed (Punk did seek out the promo, watched it, and complemented AJ on Twitter) are apt.

As usual though, I feel bad for Nattie in all this, because aside from AJ and Kaitlyn, she's the only real wrestler on the full-time divas roster. So if they make this an AJ vs. Bellas thing, then WWE has dropped the ball big time. The Bellas are exactly everything that's wrong with the divas today.

BTW if you haven't, check out Maria Kanellis on Twitter. She had lots of shoot statements about the Bellas last night, and there is no love lost between them. It's quite possible Maria would've been on Raw last night hadn't it been for the Bellas, but that's all rumors and not confirmed, far as I know.

RVD vs. ADR

Feuds like this are why I advocate retiring the World title, and elevating the IC title back to its old spot. I love the Big Gold Belt, but with no more brand split there's just no reason for this belt to be used. Alberto Del Rio has been a weak champion, and this angle is more about Ricardo being "trained" to wrestle (Even though he's performed as El Local for ages now) while "training" RVD in Spanish. It's leading to a Ricardo vs. Del Rio showdown, which says a lot. One, as usual it takes Ricardo's involvement to make Del Rio interesting again. Two, RVD is going to be the WHC, and nobody will really care.

Randy Orton, Christian, and YEScalade

Orton and Christian delivered yet another one of their quality bouts. They work well together through having done it so much on Smackdown, so I had no issues with the match at all. Orton is at least being a champion willing to wrestle and not just fall back on the readily-available Shield assistance.

The YEScalade, well, it was great until Lawler decided to get in on it.

Also did you notice that Orton was the 9 o'clock champ tonight?

PTP vs. Real Americans

Holy race-baiting. That's all I can say. I realize WWE wants to evoke the Attitude Era, but f*ck. However, the audience chanting "We the People" with the guy who JUST called two black men the products of welfare queens was very, very uncomfortable to watch. Where the hell was Raw last night?

Sister Abigail

For one, I'll never associate the name "Abigail" from King Diamond when used in this context. So I'm goign to pretend Bray Wyatt is a fan. Second, Wyatt's established that he is the monster heel in WWE, and I gotta say it works until he has to step into the ring by himself. Until WWE does an angle that points out how massively full of sh*t Bray Wyatt is (Which will pretty much kill his heat if they do), he's got the creepy heel market cornered.

Daniel Bryan vs. The Shield

Sid made an astute point on Twitter (He usually does once or twice per show). This match featured a ton of ex-ROH and CZW talent, and that's pretty amazing. Daniel Bryan, Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose are all guys that 10 years ago, we assumed WWE would never look at, much less push. So that was amazing.

Now for the part everyone hated: the roster being forced to watch, and unable to help. Yes it makes them all look cowardly. Yes it makes it look like nobody will stick up for themselves. But WWE has lots of storyline canon that proves that when it comes to diabolical, nobody does it like Triple H. I already pointed out his various rape and necrophilia angle-filled history. He's disgusting and perverted. He's also power mad. So from a character standpoint, YES, everyone SHOULD be afraid to stick up to this guy now that he's the boss. He's the Mad King Aerys II. He's content to say, "Burn them all!" if push comes to shove.

So be patient, it will take a while before Big Show works up the nerve to give a WMD, or for Ziggler and Mark Henry realize that they have a lot more in common than they thought. We're actually getting what seems to be a planned-out storyline, and you have to actually sit and watch it unfold across more than just one pay per view. In fact they've built this up now over THREE events consecutively. Watch where WWE has gone from Payback until now, and see how all the threads tie together. Because for a wrestling plotline, they do line up pretty well, for the most part. Most of the criticism I see involves Triple H's presence but really, do you think Vince can play this evil, or anyone else for that matter? Vince was a clown and carnival barker. Triple H is an attempted murderer (And has committed career murder on more than a few victims). So yeah, expect the WWE roster to be hesitant to confront him.

Relax and enjoy, people. Don't be 411wrestling, Cageside Seats or the other wrestle-sh*t-sheets. Be the FWC.
2013-08-27 09:30:16 AM
1 votes:

CapnPlaty: ShiningWizard: tbaughm: ShiningWizard: tbaughm: I missed the last two hours of RAW...and from what I'm gathering, it seems like the only thing I've watched (AJ's promo) is the only thing that wasn't completely foreshadowed in the first hour. Yes?

Pretty much this. If they would have given the end more than just a scrum after 1 decent match with Rollins it would have been good. I understand not wanting to wear out DBD but you don't put Ambrose in a match then have him lose in 22 seconds, EVAR!!!

AJ dorpping the best promo in women's history was worth waiting the entire show for though. I may be a liiiiiiittle biased on that one though. Just a little.

tiny bit
really

Seriously though. Punk was praising the promo on Twitter this morning.

Not surprising. I know AJ is fully capable on the mic but if you had told me that Punk or Heyman wrote that for her I would not have been overly stunned. She really nailed the delivery and was less like the crazy schoolgirl and played more of the sinister heel champ. It was exactly the character path that Tenor and I were saying they should take with her a few weeks back

Best part about it was even though it was a heel delivery it was cheered by the crowd. I agree with her fully, of the Divas she is more of a role model than the Bellas (maybe not her psycho girlfriend persona), and she should definitely get CM Punk level props for telling it like it is.

Sadly, since the WWE are amped with the Total Divas show, AJ will probably end up dropping the belt to one of them at NOC.


It's funny that the Funkawhatevertehfarktheyare are tweeting about AJ farking her way to the top.  Yeah, kettle, black, etc. etc.

It was a great promo especially since the Diva's division has been emptied out because the more talented athletes said "fark this, I'm doing something else".  So I appreciate AJ cutting that promo because it was spot on, and yes, the Bellas and Eva Multipass looked like assholes with their finger snapping shiat on camera.
2013-08-27 09:07:08 AM
1 votes:

tbaughm: ShiningWizard: tbaughm: I missed the last two hours of RAW...and from what I'm gathering, it seems like the only thing I've watched (AJ's promo) is the only thing that wasn't completely foreshadowed in the first hour. Yes?

Pretty much this. If they would have given the end more than just a scrum after 1 decent match with Rollins it would have been good. I understand not wanting to wear out DBD but you don't put Ambrose in a match then have him lose in 22 seconds, EVAR!!!

AJ dorpping the best promo in women's history was worth waiting the entire show for though. I may be a liiiiiiittle biased on that one though. Just a little.

tiny bit
really

Seriously though. Punk was praising the promo on Twitter this morning.


Not surprising. I know AJ is fully capable on the mic but if you had told me that Punk or Heyman wrote that for her I would not have been overly stunned. She really nailed the delivery and was less like the crazy schoolgirl and played more of the sinister heel champ. It was exactly the character path that Tenor and I were saying they should take with her a few weeks back
2013-08-27 08:31:19 AM
1 votes:
So a decent Raw, and an AJ pipebomb.

I told you...I would do both gracious and horrible things to her...and she can leave the Chuck's on while.
2013-08-26 11:19:08 PM
1 votes:
I really don't mind the story arc so far. Yea it's a bit heavy handed with the DBD beatdowns right now but the tide doesn't have to be turning just yet. We always cry foul whenever they don't do any build for a match or feud. Let's take our own advice and watch this one unfold without feeling like it needs to be rushed. They just set up the roster for some kind of revolt or uprising so I can wait to complain if they wind up not doing anything with it. Maybe 2 more Raw shows then my patience will run out. Till then I say *optimistic wizard is optimistic*
2013-08-26 11:16:20 PM
1 votes:

Infernalist: Why the fark should anyone care about 'any' of those guys on that stage now?  Trip just went out there and collected every ballsack on his roster.


Because that's where they're going with this story: when the roster, and Daniel Bryan, get their balls back.
2013-08-26 11:15:04 PM
1 votes:
Mostly sure that this is just Levesque writing the story to be more of a badass.  Who's going to say no?
2013-08-26 11:08:51 PM
1 votes:

Dougie AXP: ShiningWizard: Big Show has an iron clad contract right?!?!

shhh no one remembers that


I know but that was the perfect moment to have Show choke slam Orton on the ramp, run down to the ring and toss the Shield the look back at a mega-ticked HHH and yell "IRON CLAD PAL!" at him. Also would set up his upcoming feud with Henry vs. the Shield

BOOKING!!!!!
2013-08-26 11:07:13 PM
1 votes:

eddievercetti: FARK YOU HUNTER!


See this? That's why this angle is a success. For this reaction.
2013-08-26 11:07:12 PM
1 votes:
Big show could have knocked out Randy and Triple H. Trips only said they couldn't interfere in the ring
2013-08-26 11:06:58 PM
1 votes:
Wow, that was probably the biggest waste of time since....last week.

WTF AM I DOING WATCHING THIS shiat AGAIN?
2013-08-26 11:06:22 PM
1 votes:
way to punk out the entire roster.  awesome.
2013-08-26 10:56:09 PM
1 votes:
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2013-08-26 09:40:49 PM
1 votes:
3 Bryan matches guarantees a double gredunza right?
2013-08-26 09:36:16 PM
1 votes:
Hopefully this means we'll see some of the female talent down in NXT start to trickle through, like Emma and Paige.
2013-08-26 08:34:57 PM
1 votes:
IATTTC
2013-08-26 08:01:20 PM
1 votes:
www.lethalwow.com
2013-08-26 07:59:07 PM
1 votes:

Gunny Highway: The_Y2P_Problem: [347x330 from http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090319134159/zelda/images/2/2c /Navi_Artwork.png image 347x330]

Hey!  LISTEN!  HEY!  LISTEN!

NXT is now on free Hulu.  The entire run of the series.  Check it out.  The Sami Zayn/Antonio Cesaro is great, but I personally give my NXT match of the year (so far) to Kassius Ohno vs. William Regal from April 10th (Season 7, episode 164).

Both are awesome matches.  Regal is like the final boss of NXT.

The Emma v Paige NTX Womens Title match was really good.  It wasnt a Five Star match but they know how to work a match and how to improvise when necessary.  It was real good.


Shining Wizard can have Paige, Emma is my NXT Diva I'll cheerlead for.  Give her a three month program with the Bellas where the Bellas try their mean girl schtick on someone who doesn't give a fark what people think and just goes about being Emmazing and you've got an actual role model for little girls everywhere.
2013-08-26 07:31:47 PM
1 votes:
www.wwedivas4u.com let's get the party started..................Obey!
 
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