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(Opposing Views)   Master debater tells 78-year-old woman that he disagrees with her position on abortion, but respects her right to express it. Either that or he punches her. I forget which one   (opposingviews.com) divider line 363
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2013-08-26 11:34:34 AM

gja: DROxINxTHExWIND: Diogenes: Nice tactic.  These anti-abortion people are using and old lady to make a political point while preventing anyone from responding.  If they have a point to make about the abortion, about how to protect the unborn, how about sending in somebody we are allowed to respond to. No. No. No. We have to respond to someone who who's elderly.  Because then if we respond, oh you are attacking an old lady.


In their defense, *punch* is not an intelligent rebuttal to any point.

I agree wholeheartedly.

::::::::runs to window to check and see if all planets have suddenly stopped spinning:::::::::

/i keed i keed



People always come around to seeing things my way, eventually.   ;-)
 
2013-08-26 11:35:37 AM

doubled99: This proves people for abortion are crazy and dangerous


You think punching one old person is more proof of that than murdering millions of innocent babies?
 
2013-08-26 11:35:40 AM
He punched an adult, not a fetus. What's the big deal?
 
2013-08-26 11:35:47 AM
Tonights featured fight is Man Ma versus GrandMa, that's right folks,  the Zygote Zinger going up against the Embryo Emancipator. This is truly the Fight of a Lifetime, a War for the Womb, A knock out, drag out brawl for baby. A no holds barred hanger scraping plan B strategy against the relentless retiree with technology.
 
2013-08-26 11:35:55 AM
Talking about punching old ladies is the new ITG thing?
 
2013-08-26 11:36:09 AM
Should have hit her harder...
 
2013-08-26 11:36:12 AM
Is this how it played out?

i277.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-26 11:36:48 AM

StatelyGreekAutomaton: serial_crusher: Marcus Aurelius: Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters  Muslims are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult. They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder

Same argument, basically.

Not really. Being Muslim has a much wider body of definition than being an antiabortion protestor. Now if you said something like al Qaeda member or Middle Eastern militant you would have a much more accurate comparison, as they are much more tightly defined.


Just like the vast majority of Muslims, the vast majority of anti-abortion protestors have never committed terrorism or murder, nor have any of them had any direct involvement in planning terrorism or murder.
It's only a small fringe element that resorts to violence.

It's not a fringe element of al Qaeda that resorts to violence.  Violence is their organization's purpose.
 
2013-08-26 11:37:32 AM

Clemkadidlefark: serial_crusher: How's that War on Women going, libs?

This


I'm not trying to defend this guy in any way, but this is pretty ridiculous if what you're trying to say through sarcasm is "why do liberals say that  conservatives are carrying out a war on women, when this guy, who just hit an old lady, is a liberal"?
And the difference of course is that the conservative war on women is part of the GOP party platform, held by most of the GOP members, and with portions being enacted in many parts of the country. This guy... was working on his own,  and was arrested for it.

Either that or 10/10.
 
2013-08-26 11:38:09 AM

IronOcelot: Talking about punching old ladies is the new ITG thing?


Yeah, what about it gramma? Don't test me, I've knocked out more octogenarians than cancer.
 
2013-08-26 11:38:36 AM

Diogenes: Relatively Obscure: Diogenes: Nice tactic. These anti-abortion people are using and old lady to make a political point while preventing anyone from responding. If they have a point to make about the abortion, about how to protect the unborn, how about sending in somebody we are allowed to respond to. No. No. No. We have to respond to someone who who's elderly. Because then if we respond, oh you are attacking an old lady.

lolwut

Geez.  I was hoping to hook a wingnut.

That's a nice bit of derp I plagiarized from Ann Coulter.  I couldn't sink that low without assistance ;-)


Aw, sorry I didn't mean to spook the fish.
 
2013-08-26 11:39:03 AM

Diogenes: Nice tactic.  These anti-abortion people are using and old lady to make a political point while preventing anyone from responding.  If they have a point to make about the abortion, about how to protect the unborn, how about sending in somebody we are allowed to respond to. No. No. No. We have to respond to someone who who's elderly.  Because then if we respond, oh you are attacking an old lady.


There are "responses" that don't involve physical violence. He could have tried one (or several) of those. He chose not to. I think that if the political positions in this confrontation were reversed, you wouldn't be quite so willing to blame the victim.
 
2013-08-26 11:39:32 AM

gja: rga184: cman: reillan: cman: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

To elaborate...

I don't give two shiats about why he did it. All I care about is the fact that he did do it. No matter what the circumstances are YOU DONT PUNCH A FRIGGIN SENIOR CITIZEN!

You're right, of course, but I reserve the right to experience Schadenfreude when it happens to someone as repugnant as this woman.

Repugnant? Do you know her personally?

She disagrees with you on abortion and she is labeled "repugnant". This hyperpartisan bullshiat is bullshiat and it needs to stop.

Did you see the sign she was holding? She is the epitome of repugnant.

So, you think striking another person is okley-dokely as long as their views are what you consider repugnant?
Good to know. Let me know how that intolerance works out for you.
/jackazz

"The first man to raise a fist is the one who has run out of ideas."


So you're saying there's nothing that would move you to violence?

That's actually pretty horrible.
 
2013-08-26 11:39:56 AM

INeedAName: Apik0r0s: Why are we educating Chicoms?

Of course he doesn't understand how some could be opposed to abortion. His country gives forced abortions to those violating China's One Child Policy - at term. When the baby crowns, they inject formaldehyde into its skull.

Shop Wal-Mart, you real Americans, you.

I know, right?! because all people living in the same country share the same beliefs and ideals and educating them certainly won't change a thing.


You do realize that the Chinese government's central mission is to ensure that everybody share the same beliefs and ideals, right?
 
2013-08-26 11:40:54 AM
The biatch DID deserve it. That doesn't mean she should get punched. We live in a civilized society. Violence is against the rules.

But come ON. Anti-abortion protesters are pieces-of-shiat. Wouldn't you punch one if there weren't any consequences? I know I would.
 
2013-08-26 11:41:23 AM

cman: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

To elaborate...

I don't give two shiats about why he did it. All I care about is the fact that he did do it. No matter what the circumstances are YOU DONT PUNCH A FRIGGIN SENIOR CITIZEN!


I dunno man, some old people are mean.
 
2013-08-26 11:42:03 AM
I read that headline as "masturbator"... need to get my mind elsewhere..
 
2013-08-26 11:42:17 AM

Nabb1: No, you're not. You just want to feel better about seeing an old lady get hit because you disagree with her. If you hear an old lady got hit by a grown man for no apparent reason and you decide how to react based on your politics, you are a shiatty human being. Period.


The guy should not have hit her.  But she did not get hit for "no apparent reason".  The reason is quite apparent.  She was trying to provoke a reaction and she got one.
 
2013-08-26 11:42:55 AM

serial_crusher: It's only a small fringe element that resorts to violence.


But if you get shot by an anti-abortion activist it's your own damn fault.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-08-26 11:43:18 AM

Ned Stark: gja: rga184: cman: reillan: cman: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

To elaborate...

I don't give two shiats about why he did it. All I care about is the fact that he did do it. No matter what the circumstances are YOU DONT PUNCH A FRIGGIN SENIOR CITIZEN!

You're right, of course, but I reserve the right to experience Schadenfreude when it happens to someone as repugnant as this woman.

Repugnant? Do you know her personally?

She disagrees with you on abortion and she is labeled "repugnant". This hyperpartisan bullshiat is bullshiat and it needs to stop.

Did you see the sign she was holding? She is the epitome of repugnant.

So, you think striking another person is okley-dokely as long as their views are what you consider repugnant?
Good to know. Let me know how that intolerance works out for you.
/jackazz

"The first man to raise a fist is the one who has run out of ideas."

So you're saying there's nothing that would move you to violence?

That's actually pretty horrible.


Where did you arrive at that? That far a jump could clear the Grand Canyon with a broken leg.
To elicit a violent response from me takes a MASSIVE effort. I reserve visceral responses such as physical violence for only the most outrageous actions or threats to life and limb.
 
2013-08-26 11:43:36 AM
Well, she was old, that's probably why the biatch went down so fast.
 
2013-08-26 11:45:17 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: In their defense, *punch* is not an intelligent rebuttal to any point.


Well, maybe it is to sommmmmme points... :-)
 
2013-08-26 11:46:00 AM

realmolo: The biatch DID deserve it. That doesn't mean she should get punched. We live in a civilized society. Violence is against the rules.

But come ON. Anti-abortion protesters are pieces-of-shiat. Wouldn't you punch one if there weren't any consequences? I know I would.


Not sure if serious or trolling.  Either way you're not helping.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-08-26 11:46:25 AM

JuggleGeek: Nabb1: No, you're not. You just want to feel better about seeing an old lady get hit because you disagree with her. If you hear an old lady got hit by a grown man for no apparent reason and you decide how to react based on your politics, you are a shiatty human being. Period.

The guy should not have hit her.  But she did not get hit for "no apparent reason".  The reason is quite apparent.  She was trying to provoke a reaction and she got one.


She trolled well, and he fell for it. He failed at being a good human.
He deserves the social equivalent of a punch in the nuts.
 
2013-08-26 11:47:57 AM

Fafai: FreetardoRivera: You don't even need to punch them.

I just call those old ladies horrible names when I drive by abortion clinic and that seems to do the trick.

I usually shout out, "dead babies are delicious!" without regard or any real idea as to what kind of impact my stupid immaturity may be having on the tone of the overall debate, purely because I think it's funny to look at people and say this.


It's also a good idea to ask them "If a dead fetus was never really a human, does that still define me as a cannibal to find dead babies delicious?"

/Too far?
 
2013-08-26 11:48:03 AM

realmolo: The biatch DID deserve it. That doesn't mean she should get punched. We live in a civilized society. Violence is against the rules.

But come ON. Anti-abortion protesters are pieces-of-shiat. Wouldn't you punch one if there weren't any consequences? I know I would.


There aren't too many things that are going to make me want to punch a stupid old lady.  A strong disagreement probably isn't on that list.  If it wasn't just not in my nature to want to do that kind of thing, then the fact that once I started I'd be busy punching people for the rest of my life would deter me.
 
2013-08-26 11:48:36 AM
Probably the unpopular position here but here goes:

If you want to tell others what they can and can't do with their own bodies, you probably deserve a swift punch in the nose.
 
2013-08-26 11:49:40 AM

CPGamer: Fafai: FreetardoRivera: You don't even need to punch them.

I just call those old ladies horrible names when I drive by abortion clinic and that seems to do the trick.

I usually shout out, "dead babies are delicious!" without regard or any real idea as to what kind of impact my stupid immaturity may be having on the tone of the overall debate, purely because I think it's funny to look at people and say this.

It's also a good idea to ask them "If a dead fetus was never really a human, does that still define me as a cannibal to find dead babies delicious?"

/Too far?


I don't know if I can fit all that in as I drive by. There are people behind me with better things to do. I have respect for those people.
 
2013-08-26 11:49:56 AM

evaned: And the difference of course is that the conservative war on women is part of the GOP party platform, held by most of the GOP members, and with portions being enacted in many parts of the country. This guy... was working on his own, and was arrested for it.


And nobody's defending what he did.
 
2013-08-26 11:50:12 AM

gja: Ned Stark: gja: rga184: cman: reillan: cman: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

To elaborate...

I don't give two shiats about why he did it. All I care about is the fact that he did do it. No matter what the circumstances are YOU DONT PUNCH A FRIGGIN SENIOR CITIZEN!

You're right, of course, but I reserve the right to experience Schadenfreude when it happens to someone as repugnant as this woman.

Repugnant? Do you know her personally?

She disagrees with you on abortion and she is labeled "repugnant". This hyperpartisan bullshiat is bullshiat and it needs to stop.

Did you see the sign she was holding? She is the epitome of repugnant.

So, you think striking another person is okley-dokely as long as their views are what you consider repugnant?
Good to know. Let me know how that intolerance works out for you.
/jackazz

"The first man to raise a fist is the one who has run out of ideas."

So you're saying there's nothing that would move you to violence?

That's actually pretty horrible.

Where did you arrive at that? That far a jump could clear the Grand Canyon with a broken leg.
To elicit a violent response from me takes a MASSIVE effort. I reserve visceral responses such as physical violence for only the most outrageous actions or threats to life and limb.


I don't know, I would kill for a burrito right now.
 
2013-08-26 11:50:38 AM
He was wrong, period. Her age and isn't important. He would be just as wrong if she was 30 years old.

Throw the book at him.

Those of you making excuses for him, even tepid ones, sound scarily similar to the people who start comments about abortion bombings with "well, I can understand their motivation but..."
 
2013-08-26 11:50:54 AM
Perfect illustration of the difference between what one deserves and what one should expect. Did she deserve to get hit? No, of course not, nobody does unless they're doing something that's going to harm others. Should she have expected it? Absolutely. You stand in front of a clinic, waving disgusting, repugnant, graphic signs of dismembered fetuses, screaming belligerent hateful garbage at anyone in earshot, you bet your ass someone is going to haul off and smack you. I imagine this is exactly the reaction these mental lightweights are hoping for so they can crawl up on their cross and play martyr for a while.

\is it really schadenfreude if she got exactly what she was looking for?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-26 11:51:54 AM

MooseUpNorth: evaned: And the difference of course is that the conservative war on women is part of the GOP party platform, held by most of the GOP members, and with portions being enacted in many parts of the country. This guy... was working on his own, and was arrested for it.

And nobody's defending what he did.


It's also funny as violence is *respected* in many parts of the anti-choice community.  One nutter goes over the edge on the pro-choice side and, boom, headlines.  Meanwhile there is a meeting going on somewhere right at this moment where someone is advocating murder of an abortion doctor...
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-26 11:52:40 AM

The Why Not Guy: He was wrong, period. Her age and isn't important. He would be just as wrong if she was 30 years old.

Throw the book at him.

Those of you making excuses for him, even tepid ones, sound scarily similar to the people who start comments about abortion bombings with "well, I can understand their motivation but..."


I agree.  Throw the book at him.  But don't coddle the other side, either.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-08-26 11:53:08 AM

Relatively Obscure: realmolo: The biatch DID deserve it. That doesn't mean she should get punched. We live in a civilized society. Violence is against the rules.

But come ON. Anti-abortion protesters are pieces-of-shiat. Wouldn't you punch one if there weren't any consequences? I know I would.

There aren't too many things that are going to make me want to punch a stupid old lady.  A strong disagreement probably isn't on that list.  If it wasn't just not in my nature to want to do that kind of thing, then the fact that once I started I'd be busy punching people for the rest of my life would deter me.


There is only 1 thing any woman could do to provoke me to strike her.
Waving a weapon at me is it. If a woman were to point a gun, or come towards me with a knife, with the clear intent to do deadly harm she will be waking up on the ground disarmed and likely hogtied. That is MY tipping point.
 
2013-08-26 11:53:17 AM

MooseUpNorth: And nobody's defending what he did.


[Finishes reading this thread]  *sigh* I'll be over here in the corner for a while, losing my faith in humanity.
 
2013-08-26 11:54:06 AM
Is this just an abortion is sin sign or a picture of a dismembered fetus sign?  If the later, then Kudos to the guy, and I wish he had used a power fist.

Frak anyone with one of those signs.
 
2013-08-26 11:54:36 AM

Superjoe: EvilEgg: FlashHarry: EvilEgg: Good lord, you farking idiot.  FOX isn't going to let this one go.  The only thing I will be able to say is some people are idiots.  Then the anti-choice people will feel as though they won the argument.

oh, fox producers will be rubbing their hands with glee over this one. the only missing cherry on top for them would be if the assailant were black. but still, the GOP hasn't really done enough to alienate the asian-american community, so maybe this will represent some headway in that area.

That's because the Asians are the good minority

Yeah, and they did a great job building the railroads.


Asian men do not have any respect for women.  That is why he did that.
 
2013-08-26 11:55:18 AM

evaned: Clemkadidlefark: serial_crusher: How's that War on Women going, libs?

This

I'm not trying to defend this guy in any way, but this is pretty ridiculous if what you're trying to say through sarcasm is "why do liberals say that  conservatives are carrying out a war on women, when this guy, who just hit an old lady, is a liberal"?
And the difference of course is that the conservative war on women is part of the GOP party platform, held by most of the GOP members, and with portions being enacted in many parts of the country. This guy... was working on his own,  and was arrested for it.

Either that or 10/10.


A little of column A, a little of column B.

The idea that the GOP's party platform contains a war on women is as ridiculous as the idea that this guy represents a liberal war on women.  Sure, Republicans go overboard with their goofy abortion restrictions, but that's not because you're a woman any more than this lady got hit because she was a woman.
 
2013-08-26 11:55:30 AM

xalres: Perfect illustration of the difference between what one deserves and what one should expect. Did she deserve to get hit? No, of course not, nobody does unless they're doing something that's going to harm others. Should she have expected it? Absolutely. You stand in front of a clinic, waving disgusting, repugnant, graphic signs of dismembered fetuses, screaming belligerent hateful garbage at anyone in earshot, you bet your ass someone is going to haul off and smack you. I imagine this is exactly the reaction these mental lightweights are hoping for so they can crawl up on their cross and play martyr for a while.


And there it is.

He still shouldn't have hit her, though. Maybe flipped her off (with both barrels), sure. Maybe even eat an omelet next to her, but that could be lost on her and her ilk.
 
2013-08-26 11:56:00 AM

gja: Relatively Obscure: realmolo: The biatch DID deserve it. That doesn't mean she should get punched. We live in a civilized society. Violence is against the rules.

But come ON. Anti-abortion protesters are pieces-of-shiat. Wouldn't you punch one if there weren't any consequences? I know I would.

There aren't too many things that are going to make me want to punch a stupid old lady.  A strong disagreement probably isn't on that list.  If it wasn't just not in my nature to want to do that kind of thing, then the fact that once I started I'd be busy punching people for the rest of my life would deter me.

There is only 1 thing any woman could do to provoke me to strike her.
Waving a weapon at me is it. If a woman were to point a gun, or come towards me with a knife, with the clear intent to do deadly harm she will be waking up on the ground disarmed and likely hogtied. That is MY tipping point.


So you don't think it is acceptable to resort to violence to eliminate a greater evil?
 
2013-08-26 11:56:23 AM

cman: Marcus Aurelius: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

I'm sure that the senior citizen in question would gladly kill an abortion doctor that had done nothing to them, so there's a certain symmetry there.

Stereotypes aren't just for bigots, are they now?


When backed by evidence, not really.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-26 11:56:38 AM

serial_crusher: The idea that the GOP's party platform contains a war on women is as ridiculous as the idea that this guy represents a liberal war on women. Sure, Republicans go overboard with their goofy abortion restrictions, but that's not because you're a woman any more than this lady got hit because she was a woman.


Granted, there is no "official," platform supported "War on Women."   There is a group of people that are not policing their idiots, so it's effectively the same thing.
 
2013-08-26 11:56:42 AM
I think he's an idiot for hitting her but I also have zero sympathy for her. Her whole reason for being out there was to annoy people. I personally wouldn't have an abortion unless I was raped but I consider it none of my business what another woman does with her uterus. By definition, that makes me pro-choice, as in, "it's none of my business what you do with your body."
 
2013-08-26 11:57:04 AM

Relatively Obscure: A strong disagreement probably isn't on that list. If it wasn't just not in my nature to want to do that kind of thing, then the fact that once I started I'd be busy punching people for the rest of my life would deter me.


My reading of the article is that the guy is from China, probably hasn't been here very long and was really offended by both her speech and the image on her poster.

From his reaction on the video, it sounds like he reacted without thinking
 
2013-08-26 11:57:48 AM
I am absolutey shocked, SHOCKED, I say, that fark liberals will only defend speech that they agree with and will only protect the weak who agree with them! I seriously just fell out of my chair!

/not really
 
2013-08-26 11:57:57 AM
He was standing his ground.
Real men don't need handguns to stand their ground.
 
2013-08-26 11:57:58 AM
/CSB moment

Many years ago, there was a new "Adult Entertainment" club opening up near the shopping mall. Needless to say, there were protesters. If you went into the club, they would sound airhorns, bells, whistles, yell and scream and take your picture.

Unfortunately, it was 2 stores down from the computer store. Every week, the same thing, I would walk by, someone would start with the airhorns, take a picture and then yell, loudly, 'It's okay, he's not going in!'.

After the third time, I seriously wanted to take the airhorns and administer them to the protesters rectally. What they were doing was harassment, plain and simple. But did I punch anyone? No. Did I flip them off? No. Did I pretend to walk towards the club over and over to whip them up? No. (It would have been funny, but no). I didn't do any of those things, because 1. It's absolutely wrong to assault someone and 2. THEY WANT THAT REACTION.

/Also, I was 17 at the time, so I don't know why they thought I was going into a strip club that I legally couldn't enter.
/CSB over.
 
2013-08-26 11:58:17 AM

cman: reillan: cman: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

To elaborate...

I don't give two shiats about why he did it. All I care about is the fact that he did do it. No matter what the circumstances are YOU DONT PUNCH A FRIGGIN SENIOR CITIZEN!

You're right, of course, but I reserve the right to experience Schadenfreude when it happens to someone as repugnant as this woman.

Repugnant? Do you know her personally?

She disagrees with you on abortion and she is labeled "repugnant". This hyperpartisan bullshiat is bullshiat and it needs to stop.


i1-news.softpedia-static.com
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-26 11:58:41 AM

umad: I am absolutey shocked, SHOCKED, I say, that fark liberals will only defend speech that they agree with and will only protect the weak who agree with them! I seriously just fell out of my chair!

/not really


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