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(Opposing Views)   Master debater tells 78-year-old woman that he disagrees with her position on abortion, but respects her right to express it. Either that or he punches her. I forget which one   (opposingviews.com) divider line 363
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2013-08-26 09:30:20 AM  
Obviously a member of the Mike Tyson School Debating Club.
 
2013-08-26 09:31:47 AM  
How's that War on Women going, libs?
 
2013-08-26 09:36:11 AM  
Did that video ever get interesting?
 
2013-08-26 09:37:05 AM  
Because of his arrest, the international graduate student may also face repercussions with the University of Iowa. His immigration status could also be affected.

GTFO, dipshiat.  You aren't helping.
 
2013-08-26 09:37:27 AM  
Can't it be both?
 
2013-08-26 09:46:04 AM  
Good lord, you farking idiot.  FOX isn't going to let this one go.  The only thing I will be able to say is some people are idiots.  Then the anti-choice people will feel as though they won the argument.
 
2013-08-26 09:49:11 AM  
Man, there are some people who are going to be so upset that he did that where other people could see it.
 
2013-08-26 09:50:21 AM  
Man Ma said knock you out!
 
2013-08-26 09:57:07 AM  
You know, I'm pro-choice and I could actually get behind a rational movement that tries to convince women to choose different alternatives than abortion. But anti-abortion folks aren't actually concerned about stopping abortions so much as they are about punishing women for having sex. It's sad, really.

/best way to cut down on the number of abortions: comprehensive sex-eduation and wide availability of birth control
 
2013-08-26 09:58:59 AM  
I like how the link to the story says 87-year-old woman when it's actually 78.

For the record, sometimes the anti-abortion vitriol my mom spews out at me makes me want to punch her, and she's in her 60s. And she's my mom.
 
2013-08-26 10:01:43 AM  

EvilEgg: Good lord, you farking idiot.  FOX isn't going to let this one go.  The only thing I will be able to say is some people are idiots.  Then the anti-choice people will feel as though they won the argument.


oh, fox producers will be rubbing their hands with glee over this one. the only missing cherry on top for them would be if the assailant were black. but still, the GOP hasn't really done enough to alienate the asian-american community, so maybe this will represent some headway in that area.
 
2013-08-26 10:04:04 AM  

Nabb1: Man, there are some people who are going to be so upset that he did that where other people could see it.


I have to admit that knocking the teeth out of some of the dried up prunes I've seen protesting at the local clinic would be highly gratifying.  Talk about a group of angry, bitter people with too much time on their hands.  And God help you if you stray onto that block by accident.  You're either with them, or against them.
 
2013-08-26 10:08:07 AM  

FlashHarry: EvilEgg: Good lord, you farking idiot.  FOX isn't going to let this one go.  The only thing I will be able to say is some people are idiots.  Then the anti-choice people will feel as though they won the argument.

oh, fox producers will be rubbing their hands with glee over this one. the only missing cherry on top for them would be if the assailant were black. but still, the GOP hasn't really done enough to alienate the asian-american community, so maybe this will represent some headway in that area.


That's because the Asians are the good minority
 
2013-08-26 10:27:14 AM  

Diogenes: Man Ma said knock you out!


Heh.
 
2013-08-26 10:30:13 AM  
1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag
 
2013-08-26 10:31:45 AM  

cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag


To elaborate...

I don't give two shiats about why he did it. All I care about is the fact that he did do it. No matter what the circumstances are YOU DONT PUNCH A FRIGGIN SENIOR CITIZEN!
 
2013-08-26 10:32:46 AM  

cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag


I'm sure that the senior citizen in question would gladly kill an abortion doctor that had done nothing to them, so there's a certain symmetry there.
 
2013-08-26 10:33:31 AM  

cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag


I agree.  As reprehensible as I find the anti-choicers who walk around with graphic signs meant to offend sensibilities and provoke such reactions, they have a right to their speech.  He fell into their trap and gave them just what they want - publicity and the opportunity to legitimately play the victim card in the national media.
 
2013-08-26 10:35:54 AM  
Nice tactic.  These anti-abortion people are using and old lady to make a political point while preventing anyone from responding.  If they have a point to make about the abortion, about how to protect the unborn, how about sending in somebody we are allowed to respond to. No. No. No. We have to respond to someone who who's elderly.  Because then if we respond, oh you are attacking an old lady.
 
2013-08-26 10:36:01 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

I'm sure that the senior citizen in question would gladly kill an abortion doctor that had done nothing to them, so there's a certain symmetry there.


Stereotypes aren't just for bigots, are they now?
 
2013-08-26 10:36:21 AM  

cman: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

To elaborate...

I don't give two shiats about why he did it. All I care about is the fact that he did do it. No matter what the circumstances are YOU DONT PUNCH A FRIGGIN SENIOR CITIZEN!


You're right, of course, but I reserve the right to experience Schadenfreude when it happens to someone as repugnant as this woman.
 
2013-08-26 10:38:27 AM  

reillan: cman: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

To elaborate...

I don't give two shiats about why he did it. All I care about is the fact that he did do it. No matter what the circumstances are YOU DONT PUNCH A FRIGGIN SENIOR CITIZEN!

You're right, of course, but I reserve the right to experience Schadenfreude when it happens to someone as repugnant as this woman.


Repugnant? Do you know her personally?

She disagrees with you on abortion and she is labeled "repugnant". This hyperpartisan bullshiat is bullshiat and it needs to stop.
 
2013-08-26 10:40:13 AM  

cman: Marcus Aurelius: cman: 1. He assaulted a woman
2. A senior citizen
3. Who did nothing to him

If there is anyone who should be shunned by society it is this assbag

I'm sure that the senior citizen in question would gladly kill an abortion doctor that had done nothing to them, so there's a certain symmetry there.

Stereotypes aren't just for bigots, are they now?


Stereotypes?

Do you mean I should assume that an anti-abortion protester lacks the conviction to act on their most sacred beliefs?

That's an insult to committed anti-abortion protesters, if you ask me.
 
2013-08-26 10:40:27 AM  

cman: Repugnant? Do you know her personally?

She disagrees with you on abortion and she is labeled "repugnant". This hyperpartisan bullshiat is bullshiat and it needs to stop.


Her way of speaking out about it is so bad, the *arresting officer* said this:
"Listen, you and I both know why he did it," the officer said to Dan. "He doesn't like the sign. I personally don't like the sign...he was extremely offended by the sign...you're looking to provoke an extreme reaction with that."

So yeah.  She's using highly-offensive signs and words to try and provoke people into hitting her, and multiple people have.  Yes, she's repugnant.  She's a 78-year-old abortion troll.
 
2013-08-26 10:41:19 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I'm sure that the senior citizen in question would gladly kill an abortion doctor that had done nothing to them


No, you're not. You just want to feel better about seeing an old lady get hit because you disagree with her. If you hear an old lady got hit by a grown man for no apparent reason and you decide how to react based on your politics, you are a shiatty human being. Period.
 
2013-08-26 10:43:12 AM  

Diogenes: Nice tactic. These anti-abortion people are using and old lady to make a political point while preventing anyone from responding. If they have a point to make about the abortion, about how to protect the unborn, how about sending in somebody we are allowed to respond to. No. No. No. We have to respond to someone who who's elderly. Because then if we respond, oh you are attacking an old lady.


lolwut
 
2013-08-26 10:44:40 AM  
The 78-year-old woman, Donna Holman, said she was protesting abortion near a Planned Parenthood office on Wednesday morning, when Man Chun John Ma, an international graduate student at the University of Iowa, hit her in the back and then walked away without saying a word, according to The Blaze.

I'm pretty sure Man Chun John Ma is some sort of martial art involving donkey punching old people.

I could really get into that.
 
2013-08-26 10:47:15 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Diogenes: Nice tactic. These anti-abortion people are using and old lady to make a political point while preventing anyone from responding. If they have a point to make about the abortion, about how to protect the unborn, how about sending in somebody we are allowed to respond to. No. No. No. We have to respond to someone who who's elderly. Because then if we respond, oh you are attacking an old lady.

lolwut


Geez.  I was hoping to hook a wingnut.

That's a nice bit of derp I plagiarized from Ann Coulter.  I couldn't sink that low without assistance ;-)
 
2013-08-26 10:47:59 AM  

Nabb1: Marcus Aurelius: I'm sure that the senior citizen in question would gladly kill an abortion doctor that had done nothing to them

No, you're not. You just want to feel better about seeing an old lady get hit because you disagree with her. If you hear an old lady got hit by a grown man for no apparent reason and you decide how to react based on your politics, you are a shiatty human being. Period.


Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult.  They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder.  They use intimidation and threats on a daily basis.  I don't give any of them a pass simply because of their age or gender.

Of course responding to any of them with violence is abhorrent.  They deserve to be marginalized and ignored.

But walk through their little gauntlet once or twice before rendering judgement on this dumb schlub.
 
2013-08-26 10:51:14 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters  Muslims are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult. They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder


Same argument, basically.
 
2013-08-26 10:51:34 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: Marcus Aurelius: I'm sure that the senior citizen in question would gladly kill an abortion doctor that had done nothing to them

No, you're not. You just want to feel better about seeing an old lady get hit because you disagree with her. If you hear an old lady got hit by a grown man for no apparent reason and you decide how to react based on your politics, you are a shiatty human being. Period.

Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult.  They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder.  They use intimidation and threats on a daily basis.  I don't give any of them a pass simply because of their age or gender.

Of course responding to any of them with violence is abhorrent.  They deserve to be marginalized and ignored.

But walk through their little gauntlet once or twice before rendering judgement on this dumb schlub.


FFS, asshole

Should we blame all Muslims for 9/11, too?
 
2013-08-26 10:52:45 AM  

serial_crusher: Marcus Aurelius: Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters  Muslims are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult. They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder

Same argument, basically.


Only if the Muslims in question surround neighboring Christian churches and verbally assault anyone trying to enter.
 
2013-08-26 10:52:51 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: Marcus Aurelius: I'm sure that the senior citizen in question would gladly kill an abortion doctor that had done nothing to them

No, you're not. You just want to feel better about seeing an old lady get hit because you disagree with her. If you hear an old lady got hit by a grown man for no apparent reason and you decide how to react based on your politics, you are a shiatty human being. Period.

Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult.  They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder.  They use intimidation and threats on a daily basis.  I don't give any of them a pass simply because of their age or gender.

Of course responding to any of them with violence is abhorrent.  They deserve to be marginalized and ignored.

But walk through their little gauntlet once or twice before rendering judgement on this dumb schlub.


He's 30, and punched an old lady - in the back, no less - without any indication she was threatening him or anything else. I don't know, maybe it's just because I was brought up believing a man doesn't strike a woman, especially an old woman, especially an old woman in the back, especially an old woman in the back who is not posing any sort of imminent physical threat. But, that's just me. If you think beating up on seniors is warranted because of political views, then don't forget the extra starch in your brown shirts.
 
2013-08-26 10:54:07 AM  

Nabb1: He's 30, and punched an old lady - in the back, no less - without any indication she was threatening him or anything else.


We have no choice but to offer him a supervisory position with the Philadelphia Police Department.
 
2013-08-26 10:54:10 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: serial_crusher: Marcus Aurelius: Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters  Muslims are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult. They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder

Same argument, basically.

Only if the Muslims in question surround neighboring Christian churches and verbally assault anyone trying to enter.


We don't have any proof that this lady "verbally assaulted" anybody.  She was just holding a sign as far as we know.
 
2013-08-26 10:54:43 AM  
Holman and her husband have been protesting at Planned Parenthood locations for decades, and have reportedly had people hit them and throw things at them in the past.

LOL
 
2013-08-26 10:55:20 AM  
You don't even need to punch them.

I just call those old ladies horrible names when I drive by abortion clinic and that seems to do the trick.
 
2013-08-26 10:55:43 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: serial_crusher: Marcus Aurelius: Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters  Muslims are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult. They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder

Same argument, basically.

Only if the Muslims in question surround neighboring Christian churches and verbally assault anyone trying to enter.


You have never been to Pakistan I presume
 
2013-08-26 10:56:00 AM  
Is your motivation for opposing abortions based solely or mostly by the teachings or preachings of a religion? Then STFU and quit forcing your religion on other people. The human race isn't in danger of going extinct, we have the technology, quit standing in the way of progress.
 
2013-08-26 10:56:37 AM  

serial_crusher: Marcus Aurelius: serial_crusher: Marcus Aurelius: Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters  Muslims are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult. They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder

Same argument, basically.

Only if the Muslims in question surround neighboring Christian churches and verbally assault anyone trying to enter.

We don't have any proof that this lady "verbally assaulted" anybody.  She was just holding a sign as far as we know.


You are such a little ho.
 
2013-08-26 10:57:03 AM  

EvilEgg: FlashHarry: EvilEgg: Good lord, you farking idiot.  FOX isn't going to let this one go.  The only thing I will be able to say is some people are idiots.  Then the anti-choice people will feel as though they won the argument.

oh, fox producers will be rubbing their hands with glee over this one. the only missing cherry on top for them would be if the assailant were black. but still, the GOP hasn't really done enough to alienate the asian-american community, so maybe this will represent some headway in that area.

That's because the Asians are the good minority


Yeah, and they did a great job building the railroads.
 
2013-08-26 10:57:24 AM  
Mass debate. Mass debater. I don't know why so many Farkers fail to grasp this very simple joke.
 
2013-08-26 10:58:39 AM  

mooseyfate: The human race isn't in danger of going extinct, we have the technology, quit standing in the way of progress.


Delusions, Mr. Wordsworth. Delusions that you inject into your veins with printer's ink. The narcotics that you call literature. The Bible, poetry, essays of all kind an opiate to make you think you have a strength when you have no strength at all! You have nothing but spindly limbs and a dream and the state has no use for your kind!
 
2013-08-26 10:58:42 AM  
He shouldn't have punched her. Violence just makes things worse. He should know that.

That said, the old biatch deserved it.
 
2013-08-26 10:58:48 AM  

serial_crusher: How's that War on Women going, libs?


This
 
2013-08-26 11:00:11 AM  

realmolo: He shouldn't have punched her. Violence just makes things worse. He should know that.

That said, the old biatch deserved it.


Anyone that disagrees with you deserves a punch in the face?
 
2013-08-26 11:00:34 AM  

cman: FFS, asshole

Should we blame all Muslims for 9/11, too?


I would argue that a very small percentage of Muslims were responsible for 9/11, so no.

I would also point out that 100% of abortion protesters are responsible for 100% of all abortion restrictions in this country.

See the difference?
 
2013-08-26 11:00:54 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: serial_crusher: Marcus Aurelius: Again, not assuming the anti-abortion protesters  Muslims are committed in their beliefs is the greater insult. They've already proven they're capable of terrorism and murder

Same argument, basically.

Only if the Muslims in question surround neighboring Christian churches and verbally assault anyone trying to enter.


FFS, can you stop making me agree with cman?! The need, at this point, isn't to be bigger d*cks than the other side of the issue. Maybe we should just get you a 'Jump To Conclusions' mat and let you play by yourself, cus you're really not helping anything by posting in this thread.
 
2013-08-26 11:00:58 AM  

realmolo: He shouldn't have punched her. Violence just makes things worse. He should know that.

That said, the old biatch deserved it.


That'll learn that woman for havin' her own opinions about things. If you want some biatch's opinion, you'll give it to her. Biatches love to be told what to think. It's science. What to you tell a woman with two black eyes? Nothing. You already told her twice, amirite?
 
2013-08-26 11:01:32 AM  

Nabb1: He's 30, and punched an old lady - in the back, no less - without any indication she was threatening him or anything else. I don't know, maybe it's just because I was brought up believing a man doesn't strike a woman, especially an old woman, especially an old woman in the back, especially an old woman in the back who is not posing any sort of imminent physical threat. But, that's just me. If you think beating up on seniors is warranted because of political views, then don't forget the extra starch in your brown shirts


So where exactly did I say that what he did was right?
 
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