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(Slate)   Now that it's basically a given that Obama will bomb Syria, what might the US attack look like?   (slate.com) divider line 62
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2013-08-26 09:29:54 AM  
6 votes:
Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.
2013-08-26 09:25:05 AM  
5 votes:
www.toonpool.com
2013-08-26 11:54:56 AM  
3 votes:
farking Bush.

War mongering economy collapsing asshole.

We need to get Obama in office so he can fix this shiat once and for all.
2013-08-26 09:39:54 AM  
3 votes:

Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks


Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.
2013-08-26 09:13:50 AM  
3 votes:
Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David
2013-08-26 04:15:43 PM  
2 votes:

veedeevadeevoodee: [300x420 from http://www.toonpool.com/user/997/files/obama_meet_new_boss_same_old_bo s_308775.jpg image 300x420]


I don't make any apologies about voting for the Bushes, but I always agreed with Daddy about US troops patrolling Bagdad.

Then the unPatriot Act and other crap just seemed to "happen", with the help of the other idiot's.

Now the Boy King stands frozen in the headlights of history, and chokes.

I know, I know, he'll eventually kill more people, he hasn't missed a chance yet. Nobody will complain, because the guy won a Peace prize.
2013-08-26 12:59:26 PM  
2 votes:
Obama should just declare it a "war free zone"..... problem solved
2013-08-26 12:21:03 PM  
2 votes:
Let's attack them with Hope and Change.  It worked so well for him here.
2013-08-26 12:08:01 PM  
2 votes:

PunGent: Joe Blowme: PunGent: freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.  he'd quit halfway to Aleppo in order to invade Jordan, which was nearby, and had some brown guys in it who said something mean to his daddy once.

FTFY.

/Agrees we should stay out of Syria, actually.

right, trying to assassinate a POTUS is just saying something mean. revisionist history, this is how it works?

NATO didn't believe that crap, and neither do I.

You should totally get that into Wikipedia though...they seem to have not believed it either :)


wiki? The site that even HS wont accept for citation?


U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill BushBy David Von Drehle and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, June 27, 1993; Page A01


U.S. Navy ships launched 23 Tomahawk missiles against the headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service yesterday in what President Clinton said was a "firm and commensurate" response to Iraq's plan to assassinate former president George Bush in mid-April.


Damn that Clinton, i knew he was just another Bush lackey.
2013-08-26 10:35:38 AM  
2 votes:
I'm just glad CNN has it's priorities straight and is really focusing on the key issue of this week, which is of course Miley Cyrus twerking at the VMAs.  I guess nothing else of interest is happening.
2013-08-26 10:06:29 AM  
2 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: I'm as pacifist as they come but at some particular point I think we need to just go all Iron Man on them. Destroy military infrastructure, chemical weapons and then just walk away and let them sort out their own problems.


Military infrastructure like power plants, water treatment facilities, bridges, highways... I'm sure the people of Syria would just love all the democracy and freedom you want to rain down on them.
2013-08-26 09:47:53 AM  
2 votes:
It's lose-lose, and I'm extremely doubtful that Syria used chemical weapons. They're winning, support hasn't materialized for the rebels, and the UN was in the country when this happened. It makes no sense for Assad to have done it.
2013-08-26 09:44:45 AM  
2 votes:
kickfailure.com
2013-08-26 09:42:17 AM  
2 votes:

Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks


what will be funny is that all of the GOP in congress demanding action in Syria now will do a 180 as soon as the bombs start to drop and start talking about what a mess he made.
2013-08-26 09:33:24 AM  
2 votes:
Why do we always have to do something? How come no other countries see this as a problem? Let France go in there and surrender all over them or something. Sick of us sticking our nose where it does not belong.
2013-08-26 09:31:19 AM  
2 votes:
Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks
2013-08-26 09:26:57 AM  
2 votes:
Viet Nam with sand.

the US would never use chemical weapons.
Cue the Agent orange pics, and the shot of  Kim Phuc running with her skin all burned off.

the US is just a bigger group of assholes with chemical weapons.
2013-08-26 09:24:47 AM  
2 votes:
Whoever comes out on top in this mess, the US will not get a government friendly to our interests in the region. The only way to win is not to play unless, like Libya, it is by proxy. France and Britain seem anxious to punish the regime, so let them have at it. We have all the ordnance they might wish to purchase for their endeavor.
2013-08-26 09:14:49 AM  
2 votes:
 targeting electric production, water treatment, radio and tv stations
as well as general destruction leading to

 billions of tax dollars (after being handled by no bid contractors)
to be spent on reconstruction

win win win
2013-08-26 09:13:50 AM  
2 votes:
It seems likely that President Obama will bomb Syria sometime in the coming weeks.

I would love to go for a few years without this country exporting its top product overseas.

If Obama does use force in Syria, he will do so because of clear evidence that Assad's regime has killed lots of civilians with chemical weapons. Two considerations will likely drive his decision, if it comes to that. First, he has drawn a "red line" on this issue, publicly, at least five times in the last year, and failure to follow through-especially after the latest revelations-would send confusing signals, at best, about U.S. resolve and credibility. Second, failure to respond would erode, perhaps obliterate, the taboo that the international community has placed on chemical weapons (especially nerve gas) since the end of World War I. I suspect that this factor may be more pertinent to Obama, who takes the issue of international norms very seriously.

Why are we getting involved again? Because our President couldn't shut up and feels like he has to act? No, that's not reason enough. Nor is it reason enough that a country in the middle of a civil war is basically throwing the kitchen sink at each other for survival.
2013-08-27 06:30:02 AM  
1 votes:
jtgfug.bay.livefilestore.com
2013-08-27 12:50:09 AM  
1 votes:
Subby is cute. He thinks we have a president with a spine who walks what he talks.

Cuuuuuuute.
2013-08-26 02:26:22 PM  
1 votes:
I don't think most people understand how the Syria situation will almost certainly escalate very quickly.  Russia has long been Syria's ally and the US and NATO have been encroaching on Russia's oil and gas industry for many years.  Syria is their line in the sand.

The US will weigh its options heavily in order to more accurately gauge Russia's temperature.  A pointless resolution will first be introduced to the UN, with Russia and China voting a big NO.  But not to fear, NATO will most eagerly run with the 'humanitarian' torch.  The process should take a few weeks and buy Russia some time.

I'm not sure that Syria's air defenses were ever that comprehensive, but they are definitely not capable of shielding against what is to come.  Russia has to defend Syria from the outset as there is not much point in aiding a bombed-out ally.  Iran should wait on the sidelines to see what develops so as not to invite an attack on itself, but will probably be drawn in soon enough.  And is that the point at which China gets involved?

This Cold War confrontation has been 50+ years in the making.  It WILL NOT be a proxy war circa Korea or Vietnam because Russia cannot allow Syria to fall.  They will not toss Assad a few AK-47s and hope for the best, US air superiority and the effectiveness of their non-nuke arsenal guarantees that Syria would be a smoldering ruins within days.
2013-08-26 02:12:19 PM  
1 votes:

freak7

Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.

^ This.
The libs that just a few weeks ago when zero was saying we weren't going to get involved were beating their chests, declaring what a great man zero is for staying the fark out of it.

Now that he's sighing the guns, the obamabots beat the war drumbs.

sheep.
2013-08-26 01:55:05 PM  
1 votes:
Currently Syria looks like this:

i2.cdn.turner.com

We will use some of these:

www.militaryfactory.com

To make Syria look like this:

northiowatoday.com

And then the Syrians will feel like this:

www.nypost.com
2013-08-26 01:33:38 PM  
1 votes:

PainfulItching: I've decided not to put anyone on ignore and watch this unfold. It's like watching an orangutan play with it's own poop. Antihumanists trying to convert others. It's a laugh a minute.


If you care to, go look up some of the pre-Iraq threads from 2003-ish. The come back and see how many farkers with war hard-ons back then are all, "God, what was I thinking?!" today.
2013-08-26 01:19:02 PM  
1 votes:

Joe Blowme: Obama should just declare it a "war free zone"..... problem solved


Or the UN could make war illegal under international law. I'm sure it would work. However it is done, we need more talky-talky and less shooty-shooty. Guns never solve anything. Just ask anybody on this site.
2013-08-26 12:56:33 PM  
1 votes:
It never matters, whatever we do or don't do. It will be wrong and everyone will hate us for it.
2013-08-26 12:55:58 PM  
1 votes:

Giltric: B1 bombers loaded with 125,000 pounds of Nobel peace prizes each.


www.politifake.org
2013-08-26 12:33:27 PM  
1 votes:

Loaf's Tray: [323x176 from http://www.dailyllama.com/news/2003/images/bridgekeeper.jpg image 323x176]

WHAT...IS THE CAPITAL OF SYRIA?


"S" ?
2013-08-26 12:30:34 PM  
1 votes:

neversubmit: 21-7-b: neversubmit: 21-7-b: I can read on this very page the contribution of someone calling himself "neversubmit" who posts conspiacy theories and who refuses to admit he is wrong when he is shown that the particular conspiracy theory that he has invested time and effort defending has been debunked, and who instead tries to distract from the fact that he has been shown to be wrong

Your mindreading has failed you, the neversubmit handle just means I don't submit headlines to Fark.com  How can I say I'm wrong when I never said I was right?

Mind reading: Inferring a person's possible or probable (usually negative) thoughts from their behavior and nonverbal communication; assuming the worst, or some other preliminary conclusion, without asking the person.

You posted the text from the forged document, tried to dismiss the claims that it was a conspiracy, and then claimed that the truth was impossible to find. You were shown to be wrong, and, rather than admitting you were wrong, have tried to distract from that fact. The longer you go on, the more and more dishonest you are making yourself look.

Have you tried putting me on ignore? Maybe that will help you, anyway I hope the best for you and take care. Later.


I would rather challenge bs than ignore it (as you should have realized by now), so I have no idea why you think I would put you on ignore. You should try to actually contribute something in future
2013-08-26 11:58:46 AM  
1 votes:
www.dailyllama.com

WHAT...IS THE CAPITAL OF SYRIA?
2013-08-26 11:47:01 AM  
1 votes:
What will the American response look like?

3.bp.blogspot.com

That sums up what it will actually look like, except with no glasses bigger ears and darker skin.

...And less jowel-y
2013-08-26 11:37:16 AM  
1 votes:
Lucky for us Romney didn't win we'd be invading Iran right now based off these chemical weapons attacks.
2013-08-26 11:18:55 AM  
1 votes:

neversubmit: hardinparamedic: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

Your blog sucks.

/oh, wait. I got this. Other media outlets don't have it because "THEY" don't want them to show it.

Daily Mail in £100,000-plus payout over Syrian chemical weapons story

The article quoted one email supposedly sent between two executives at the company which claimed to show that Britam had agreed to supply chemical weapons to Homs for use in an attack. However, the emails turned out to be forged.

As I said earlier good luck finding out the truth. End the end you will believe what you want to and I still be wondering what happened.


I know you believe that there is a conspiracy and that it is important to you that other people believe it too, but the fact is that anyone with google can really easily find the truth by googling for information regarding the forged emails' headers. You don't need luck to find the truth in this instance - you need access to a search engine, the ability to type in two or three words, and less than five minutes to research the topic. The trouble is with people like you that once some fringe website posts half-baked evidence of a conspiracy you believe it without doing any fact-checking. The problem you have is that you aren't very good at filtering information and you aren't very good at admitting when you are wrong. That is, the problem is with you and others like you and that is obviously unfortunate, especially because you think the problem is with everyone else. All we can do is show that you are misguided - we know we can't change the beliefs of people like you, "neversubmit," because it is clearly more important to you to stand by your opinion than to be factaully accurate
2013-08-26 11:12:56 AM  
1 votes:

KarmicDisaster: At least Fox News can finally switch over from bleating about "why doesn't Obama act  in Syria!" to "why did Obama act in Syria!" for a change.


Hobodeluxe: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

what will be funny is that all of the GOP in congress demanding action in Syria now will do a 180 as soon as the bombs start to drop and start talking about what a mess he made.


Obama will be the REAL victim in all of this.
2013-08-26 11:06:08 AM  
1 votes:

neversubmit: 21-7-b: Oh, so you are jsut another conspiracy nut?

I'm sorry that it troubles you to see how the sausage is made, do you like sports? Maybe you would be happier in the sports tab.


Look, dude, the simple fact is that you didn't fact check something that you posted and then defended. That's fine. You've been called out now and can't defend it further, except to hint at ever greater conspiracies. You want to make yourself look like a conspiracy nut who latches onto debunked evidence as the central evidence for there being a conspiracy, you carry right along. I can't stop you making yourself look like a conspiracy nut, but obviously I can help others to take you as seriously as you deserve to be taken - which, as you have demonstrated, isn't very seriously. Good on you
2013-08-26 10:37:23 AM  
1 votes:
Russia and Iran are only too happy to bog the U.S. down in a quagmire in their client state's. Lebanon will have to be part of any intervention since its essentially a proxy/storage site for Syria.  The prospect of entering a battle between Hizb Allah (and Assad) on one side and al-Qaeda cannot produce a favorable outcome. If any 'Western' power is to be involved it should be France, maybe with Turkey as a logistical partner. Both are NATO anyway. France is the former colonial power and has good historical relations with Syria. As far as the U.S. goes--no, no, no, no and PHUKC NO.
2013-08-26 10:29:59 AM  
1 votes:
www.asingularcreation.com
OUR DRONES WILL BLOCK OUT THE SUN!
2013-08-26 10:19:49 AM  
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: It seems likely that President Obama will bomb Syria sometime in the coming weeks.

I would love to go for a few years without this country exporting its top product overseas.

If Obama does use force in Syria, he will do so because of clear evidence that Assad's regime has killed lots of civilians with chemical weapons. Two considerations will likely drive his decision, if it comes to that. First, he has drawn a "red line" on this issue, publicly, at least five times in the last year, and failure to follow through-especially after the latest revelations-would send confusing signals, at best, about U.S. resolve and credibility. Second, failure to respond would erode, perhaps obliterate, the taboo that the international community has placed on chemical weapons (especially nerve gas) since the end of World War I. I suspect that this factor may be more pertinent to Obama, who takes the issue of international norms very seriously.

Why are we getting involved again? Because our President couldn't shut up and feels like he has to act? No, that's not reason enough. Nor is it reason enough that a country in the middle of a civil war is basically throwing the kitchen sink at each other for survival.


I think it's more that Syria is a member of the UN. Sorry for throwing some logic into a Fark thread.
2013-08-26 10:00:39 AM  
1 votes:

Nemo's Brother: neversubmit: Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.

I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.

You don't see that all of these wars and skirmishes in the Middle East stem from us meddling in the 70s when we shouldn't have?  Actually, you can argue that the Brits and French caused all of this with their meddling and artificial border drawing.  The Middle Easterners, being the racist savages that they are, are simply unable to share borders with people of a slightly different ethnicity or take on the same religion.


files.list.co.uk
2013-08-26 10:00:18 AM  
1 votes:

Nemo's Brother: neversubmit: Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.

I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.

What, pray tell, is the end game? How do we win here with intervention?


Chaos. Israel wants chaos in its neighbors, doesn't care how, just chaos. And what Israel wants, we do, that's what AIPAC pays all of our leaders for. Anyone wants to buck, and forget the money they picked up, well, they can deal with the media.

AIPAC are the bagmen, media are the legbreakers. Stranglehold. More war for Israel.
2013-08-26 09:49:34 AM  
1 votes:
Over a million Americans died in the US Civil War.  I don't recall Syria bombing us to save lives.
2013-08-26 09:45:19 AM  
1 votes:
img849.imageshack.us
pew pew pew
2013-08-26 09:43:55 AM  
1 votes:
He'll get a UN resolution right? Just like he did in Libya? Right?
Its like if neo nazis and the kkk were going at it, who's side do you step in on or do you let them duke it out then take out the survivor?
2013-08-26 09:43:47 AM  
1 votes:

mbillips: manimal2878: It's a no-win situation.

Either we are helping the military which overthrew a democratic government or a Islamist extremist that used the veil of democracy to attempt the creation of a theocracy.

At the most somebody from the UN should blow up the chemical weapon sites, it doesn't even need to be us.  We shouldn't try to create a democracy, or nation build, or fix any infrasturcuter.

You're describing Egypt, not Syria. Go stand in the corner, and put this dunce cap on.


To be fair, Syria is also a no-win situation.
2013-08-26 09:39:18 AM  
1 votes:
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke
2013-08-26 09:38:49 AM  
1 votes:
It will be a symbolic move, cruise missiles vs a few warehouses. My gut says Obama just wants to delay the real fight until the next presidency, he's only got a couple years then it's not his problem. I think he's hoping a republican has to deal with it cause then he gets this nice legacy of peace sandwiched between two presidencies heavy with conflict. ( drones don't count because they don't make the news/history books like bombings and tanks do )
2013-08-26 09:38:48 AM  
1 votes:

utah dude: Outrageous Muff: It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.

turkeys can't fly,dumbass.


WILD Turkeys sure can.  ;)
2013-08-26 09:37:57 AM  
1 votes:

TheGreatGazoo: Can we just bomb the government and the rebel camps?  Then maybe the people will rise up and come up with a decent government.


Nope. Take out those two, then whichever third party that has the ambition and is also the most savage and ruthless will rise to power by cutting down anyone who opposes them, including those who could probably govern better. Tis the way it has always been.
2013-08-26 09:37:01 AM  
1 votes:

freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.


Outrage seems to be spread equally over party lines. Much to the dismay of those who'd like you to keep fighting among yourselves, i'm sure.
2013-08-26 09:32:09 AM  
1 votes:
Like Timothy McVeigh, Obama wants to bomb federal buildings to overthrow a government.
2013-08-26 09:29:20 AM  
1 votes:
I won't believe Assad used chemical weapons on his own people until Judith Miller and the New York Times say it's true. It doesn't get any better for proof than that.
2013-08-26 09:29:13 AM  
1 votes:
Can we just bomb the government and the rebel camps?  Then maybe the people will rise up and come up with a decent government.
2013-08-26 09:28:31 AM  
1 votes:
 the internet makes it so hard to rule

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2WPSZCrR4
2013-08-26 09:27:06 AM  
1 votes:
 B1 bombers loaded with 125,000 pounds of Nobel peace prizes each.
2013-08-26 09:26:41 AM  
1 votes:
being engaged in battle almost endlessly is awesome and does wonders for the mental health of all those involved.
2013-08-26 09:22:08 AM  
1 votes:

Outrageous Muff: It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.


IdBeCrazyIf: I'm thinking a lot of missiles, launched from Israel


Ahem? Global Force for Good? C'mon, it's 100,000 tons, four acres of sovereign U.S. territory that doesn't require a permission slip to operate anywhere it dang well pleases. You know who did all the initial air strikes in Afghanistan in 2001? Wasn't the dang Air Force, that's for sure.

What American air power might look like:

www.fas.org
das
2013-08-26 09:14:20 AM  
1 votes:
NO!!!!
2013-08-26 09:12:39 AM  
1 votes:
So the US is going to bomb people to save lives?
2013-08-26 09:11:50 AM  
1 votes:
So even if it was the rebels/terrorist that used chemical weapons, he's going to attack the Regime.  Just as long as chemical weapons was used that's all that matter?

Looks like he's setting himself for another Bengazi.
2013-08-26 09:11:19 AM  
1 votes:
Imperialism.
 
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