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2013-08-26 09:11:10 AM  
It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.
 
2013-08-26 09:11:19 AM  
Imperialism.
 
2013-08-26 09:11:22 AM  
More nerve gas?
 
2013-08-26 09:11:41 AM  
I'm thinking a lot of missiles, launched from Israel
 
2013-08-26 09:11:50 AM  
So even if it was the rebels/terrorist that used chemical weapons, he's going to attack the Regime.  Just as long as chemical weapons was used that's all that matter?

Looks like he's setting himself for another Bengazi.
 
2013-08-26 09:12:39 AM  
So the US is going to bomb people to save lives?
 
2013-08-26 09:12:50 AM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-08-26 09:13:50 AM  
Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David
 
2013-08-26 09:13:50 AM  
It seems likely that President Obama will bomb Syria sometime in the coming weeks.

I would love to go for a few years without this country exporting its top product overseas.

If Obama does use force in Syria, he will do so because of clear evidence that Assad's regime has killed lots of civilians with chemical weapons. Two considerations will likely drive his decision, if it comes to that. First, he has drawn a "red line" on this issue, publicly, at least five times in the last year, and failure to follow through-especially after the latest revelations-would send confusing signals, at best, about U.S. resolve and credibility. Second, failure to respond would erode, perhaps obliterate, the taboo that the international community has placed on chemical weapons (especially nerve gas) since the end of World War I. I suspect that this factor may be more pertinent to Obama, who takes the issue of international norms very seriously.

Why are we getting involved again? Because our President couldn't shut up and feels like he has to act? No, that's not reason enough. Nor is it reason enough that a country in the middle of a civil war is basically throwing the kitchen sink at each other for survival.
 
das
2013-08-26 09:14:20 AM  
NO!!!!
 
2013-08-26 09:14:48 AM  
I just hope Iran keeps their word and gets into the mix.
 
2013-08-26 09:14:49 AM  
 targeting electric production, water treatment, radio and tv stations
as well as general destruction leading to

 billions of tax dollars (after being handled by no bid contractors)
to be spent on reconstruction

win win win
 
2013-08-26 09:15:36 AM  

neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David


When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?
 
2013-08-26 09:17:59 AM  
FTA: Most telling perhaps is a story in the New York Times, noting that Obama's national-security aides are studying the 1999 air war in Kosovo as a possible blueprint for action in Syria.

Indeed it's very telling that they're using that.

After eight years of searching, evidence of genocide against Kosovo's ethnic Albanians has not materialized. The number of ethnic Albanians who died or went missing is anywhere from 90 percent to 99 percent lower than the estimates we were given during the war.
 
2013-08-26 09:18:01 AM  

Outrageous Muff: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?


Tinfoil? LOL How dated.

Go back to sleep, old man.
 
2013-08-26 09:19:04 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-08-26 09:20:23 AM  

neversubmit: Outrageous Muff: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Tinfoil? LOL How dated.

Go back to sleep, old man.


No really, what color are the chemtrails in your universe?
 
2013-08-26 09:21:10 AM  
Great article there, Fred Kaplan.

/rolls eyes
 
2013-08-26 09:21:15 AM  
Whoa, gutsy call.
 
2013-08-26 09:21:24 AM  
Two words: Keystone. Kops.
 
2013-08-26 09:21:39 AM  
Oh, lets not waste time worry about the details!  Hey, I hear Miley Cyrus did something inappropriate with Beetlejuice on stage last night, how about that?
 
2013-08-26 09:22:08 AM  

Outrageous Muff: It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.


IdBeCrazyIf: I'm thinking a lot of missiles, launched from Israel


Ahem? Global Force for Good? C'mon, it's 100,000 tons, four acres of sovereign U.S. territory that doesn't require a permission slip to operate anywhere it dang well pleases. You know who did all the initial air strikes in Afghanistan in 2001? Wasn't the dang Air Force, that's for sure.

What American air power might look like:

www.fas.org
 
2013-08-26 09:23:03 AM  

Outrageous Muff: When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?


Please, the hat is for traveling. The walls and windows are lined with it so normal apartment use can be done.
 
2013-08-26 09:23:18 AM  
I hope subby is a Social Studies teacher too. We force other to make predictions all day. This is a great question, and I might ask it at the top of Government tomorrow. Bellwork!
 
2013-08-26 09:23:49 AM  
 It's a no-win situation.

Either we are helping the military which overthrew a democratic government or a Islamist extremist that used the veil of democracy to attempt the creation of a theocracy.

At the most somebody from the UN should blow up the chemical weapon sites, it doesn't even need to be us.  We shouldn't try to create a democracy, or nation build, or fix any infrasturcuter.
 
2013-08-26 09:23:55 AM  

Outrageous Muff: When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?


You never take it off.

That's when they get you.
 
2013-08-26 09:24:38 AM  
Candygram for Mongo...
 
2013-08-26 09:24:47 AM  
Whoever comes out on top in this mess, the US will not get a government friendly to our interests in the region. The only way to win is not to play unless, like Libya, it is by proxy. France and Britain seem anxious to punish the regime, so let them have at it. We have all the ordnance they might wish to purchase for their endeavor.
 
2013-08-26 09:25:05 AM  
www.toonpool.com
 
2013-08-26 09:25:32 AM  

Wolf_Blitzer: neversubmit: Outrageous Muff: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Tinfoil? LOL How dated.

Go back to sleep, old man.

No really, what color are the chemtrails in your universe?


Is casting weak aspersions all you got. Pathetic.
 
2013-08-26 09:26:17 AM  

mbillips: Ahem? Global Force for Good? C'mon, it's 100,000 tons, four acres of sovereign U.S. territory that doesn't require a permission slip to operate anywhere it dang well pleases. You know who did all the initial air strikes in Afghanistan in 2001? Wasn't the dang Air Force, that's for sure.


Yup, because the Army hasn't been training to secure chem sites in Jordan for four months and have set up a base for 20,000 soldiers.
 
2013-08-26 09:26:41 AM  
being engaged in battle almost endlessly is awesome and does wonders for the mental health of all those involved.
 
2013-08-26 09:26:57 AM  
Viet Nam with sand.

the US would never use chemical weapons.
Cue the Agent orange pics, and the shot of  Kim Phuc running with her skin all burned off.

the US is just a bigger group of assholes with chemical weapons.
 
2013-08-26 09:27:06 AM  
 B1 bombers loaded with 125,000 pounds of Nobel peace prizes each.
 
2013-08-26 09:28:31 AM  
 the internet makes it so hard to rule

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2WPSZCrR4
 
2013-08-26 09:28:51 AM  
I'm guessing trebuchets and ballistas
 
2013-08-26 09:29:06 AM  
I'm betting that it will look like bombs. Falling from the sky. Landing in Syria.
 
2013-08-26 09:29:13 AM  
Can we just bomb the government and the rebel camps?  Then maybe the people will rise up and come up with a decent government.
 
2013-08-26 09:29:20 AM  
I won't believe Assad used chemical weapons on his own people until Judith Miller and the New York Times say it's true. It doesn't get any better for proof than that.
 
2013-08-26 09:29:32 AM  
Bam! Kobyashi Maru.
 
2013-08-26 09:29:37 AM  

Outrageous Muff: mbillips: Ahem? Global Force for Good? C'mon, it's 100,000 tons, four acres of sovereign U.S. territory that doesn't require a permission slip to operate anywhere it dang well pleases. You know who did all the initial air strikes in Afghanistan in 2001? Wasn't the dang Air Force, that's for sure.

Yup, because the Army hasn't been training to secure chem sites in Jordan for four months and have set up a base for 20,000 soldiers.


Operation YOINK!
 
2013-08-26 09:29:54 AM  
Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.
 
2013-08-26 09:30:53 AM  

rkiller1: So the US is going to bomb people to save lives?


From TFA:  In all, "collateral damage" over the 78 days [of the Kosovo bombing campaign] killed an estimated 1,200 civilians.

More than 100,000 Syrians have died in the civil war, 1,000 in the recent chemical weapons attack. It's difficult to stop a war just by bombing one side, but dropping precision-guided bombs on military targets and infrastructure doesn't kill nearly as many people as the civil war you're trying to stop does.
 
2013-08-26 09:31:19 AM  
Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks
 
2013-08-26 09:31:38 AM  

Cybernetic: I'm betting that it will look like bombs. Falling from the sky. Landing in Syria.


Can I get a pie chart on this? I need it spelled out for me.
 
2013-08-26 09:31:52 AM  

Outrageous Muff: It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.


turkeys can't fly,dumbass.
 
2013-08-26 09:32:02 AM  

manimal2878: It's a no-win situation.

Either we are helping the military which overthrew a democratic government or a Islamist extremist that used the veil of democracy to attempt the creation of a theocracy.

At the most somebody from the UN should blow up the chemical weapon sites, it doesn't even need to be us.  We shouldn't try to create a democracy, or nation build, or fix any infrasturcuter.


You're describing Egypt, not Syria. Go stand in the corner, and put this dunce cap on.
 
2013-08-26 09:32:09 AM  
Like Timothy McVeigh, Obama wants to bomb federal buildings to overthrow a government.
 
2013-08-26 09:32:14 AM  

Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks


*sigh*
 
2013-08-26 09:33:00 AM  

utah dude: Outrageous Muff: It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.

turkeys can't fly,dumbass.


maybe so, but if you drop one from a jet, it WILL definitely fall.
 
2013-08-26 09:33:24 AM  
Why do we always have to do something? How come no other countries see this as a problem? Let France go in there and surrender all over them or something. Sick of us sticking our nose where it does not belong.
 
2013-08-26 09:34:36 AM  

rkiller1: So the US is going to bomb people to save lives?


It's what Jesus would do.
 
2013-08-26 09:35:34 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Outrageous Muff: When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Please, the hat is for traveling. The walls and windows are lined with it so normal apartment use can be done.


What if the transmitter is inside the apartment?
 
2013-08-26 09:35:45 AM  

amundb: Why do we always have to do something? How come no other countries see this as a problem? Let France go in there and surrender all over them or something. Sick of us sticking our nose where it does not belong.


France's media isn't run by middle-easterners.
 
2013-08-26 09:37:01 AM  

freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.


Outrage seems to be spread equally over party lines. Much to the dismay of those who'd like you to keep fighting among yourselves, i'm sure.
 
2013-08-26 09:37:57 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Outrageous Muff: When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Please, the hat is for traveling. The walls and windows are lined with it so normal apartment use can be done.


In my world we call it a Faraday cage.
 
2013-08-26 09:37:57 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: Can we just bomb the government and the rebel camps?  Then maybe the people will rise up and come up with a decent government.


Nope. Take out those two, then whichever third party that has the ambition and is also the most savage and ruthless will rise to power by cutting down anyone who opposes them, including those who could probably govern better. Tis the way it has always been.
 
2013-08-26 09:38:13 AM  

SuperChuck: IdBeCrazyIf: Outrageous Muff: When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Please, the hat is for traveling. The walls and windows are lined with it so normal apartment use can be done.

What if the transmitter is inside the apartment?


Are you trying to make his mind explode?
 
2013-08-26 09:38:38 AM  

Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks


A bunch of Libyans would probably have a thing or two to say about these alleged "doves" if they weren't already dead.
 
2013-08-26 09:38:48 AM  

utah dude: Outrageous Muff: It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.

turkeys can't fly,dumbass.


WILD Turkeys sure can.  ;)
 
2013-08-26 09:38:49 AM  
It will be a symbolic move, cruise missiles vs a few warehouses. My gut says Obama just wants to delay the real fight until the next presidency, he's only got a couple years then it's not his problem. I think he's hoping a republican has to deal with it cause then he gets this nice legacy of peace sandwiched between two presidencies heavy with conflict. ( drones don't count because they don't make the news/history books like bombings and tanks do )
 
2013-08-26 09:39:18 AM  
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke
 
2013-08-26 09:39:54 AM  

Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks


Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.
 
2013-08-26 09:40:14 AM  

Outrageous Muff: mbillips: Ahem? Global Force for Good? C'mon, it's 100,000 tons, four acres of sovereign U.S. territory that doesn't require a permission slip to operate anywhere it dang well pleases. You know who did all the initial air strikes in Afghanistan in 2001? Wasn't the dang Air Force, that's for sure.

Yup, because the Army hasn't been training to secure chem sites in Jordan for four months and have set up a base for 20,000 soldiers.


Those are Patriot batteries, and an F-16 squadron, and a total of 900 troops (where do you get that ridiculous 20k number from? Pravda?) We're not sending any ground troops into Syria. We had a few thousand there in June for an annual multilateral exercise with Jordan and 18 other militaries, but they've all left except for the aforementioned defensive troops.
 
2013-08-26 09:41:25 AM  
At least Fox News can finally switch over from bleating about "why doesn't Obama act  in Syria!" to "why did Obama act in Syria!" for a change.
 
2013-08-26 09:41:55 AM  

urbangirl: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke


One persons good is another's evil.

neversubmit
 
2013-08-26 09:42:16 AM  

urbangirl: utah dude: Outrageous Muff: It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.

turkeys can't fly,dumbass.

maybe so, but if you drop one from a jet, it WILL definitely fall.


It's flying downward.
 
2013-08-26 09:42:17 AM  

Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks


what will be funny is that all of the GOP in congress demanding action in Syria now will do a 180 as soon as the bombs start to drop and start talking about what a mess he made.
 
2013-08-26 09:42:42 AM  

mbillips: manimal2878: It's a no-win situation.

Either we are helping the military which overthrew a democratic government or a Islamist extremist that used the veil of democracy to attempt the creation of a theocracy.

At the most somebody from the UN should blow up the chemical weapon sites, it doesn't even need to be us.  We shouldn't try to create a democracy, or nation build, or fix any infrasturcuter.

You're describing Egypt, not Syria. Go stand in the corner, and put this dunce cap on.


Hmmm, yes, you are right.  I will indeed be in the corner.
 
2013-08-26 09:42:57 AM  
They will love all the freedom we'll be flinging at them. Preferably with drones.
 
2013-08-26 09:43:06 AM  

amundb: Why do we always have to do something? How come no other countries see this as a problem? Let France go in there and surrender all over them or something. Sick of us sticking our nose where it does not belong.


Pay attention, son, I say, pay attention. Britain and France led the way in Libya, with our quite considerable air support. You're going to be hearing a lot about Syria in the next month, and it's going to involve NATO and especially Turkey taking the lead, again with our quite considerable air support. And Russia is gonna FREAK (my personal experience talking to Russian soldiers is that they're OK with the US, but they freakin' HATE NATO (probably because Germany is in NATO).
 
2013-08-26 09:43:06 AM  

Outrageous Muff: It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.


And these sites, are they written on top of the buildings so that Google maps can pick them up?
 
2013-08-26 09:43:19 AM  
I'm as pacifist as they come but at some particular point I think we need to just go all Iron Man on them. Destroy military infrastructure, chemical weapons and then just walk away and let them sort out their own problems.
 
2013-08-26 09:43:23 AM  

Nadie_AZ: SuperChuck: IdBeCrazyIf: Outrageous Muff: When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Please, the hat is for traveling. The walls and windows are lined with it so normal apartment use can be done.

What if the transmitter is inside the apartment?

Are you trying to make his mind explode?


what if the transmitter was actually an implant in his head?
 
2013-08-26 09:43:47 AM  

mbillips: manimal2878: It's a no-win situation.

Either we are helping the military which overthrew a democratic government or a Islamist extremist that used the veil of democracy to attempt the creation of a theocracy.

At the most somebody from the UN should blow up the chemical weapon sites, it doesn't even need to be us.  We shouldn't try to create a democracy, or nation build, or fix any infrasturcuter.

You're describing Egypt, not Syria. Go stand in the corner, and put this dunce cap on.


To be fair, Syria is also a no-win situation.
 
2013-08-26 09:43:55 AM  
He'll get a UN resolution right? Just like he did in Libya? Right?
Its like if neo nazis and the kkk were going at it, who's side do you step in on or do you let them duke it out then take out the survivor?
 
2013-08-26 09:44:02 AM  

trotsky: They will love all the freedom we'll be flinging at them. Preferably with drones.


Freedom is delivered from approximately 5 miles away and comes in 18 pound packages
 
2013-08-26 09:44:45 AM  
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2013-08-26 09:45:19 AM  
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2013-08-26 09:45:36 AM  
I know.. lets send in planes to the third most heavily network air defense.  You know.. the one with missles that can go 100k feet in the air.

And no Russians will be keen to test any stealth detection equipment.....
 
2013-08-26 09:46:15 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.


I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.
 
2013-08-26 09:47:53 AM  
It's lose-lose, and I'm extremely doubtful that Syria used chemical weapons. They're winning, support hasn't materialized for the rebels, and the UN was in the country when this happened. It makes no sense for Assad to have done it.
 
2013-08-26 09:48:10 AM  

Joe Blowme: He'll get a UN resolution right? Just like he did in Libya? Right?
Its like if neo nazis and the kkk were going at it, who's side do you step in on or do you let them duke it out then take out the survivor?


per NPR (not that i listen to NPR) there's not much of a chance with the UN since China and Russia would likely veto.
 
2013-08-26 09:48:55 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: Then maybe the people will rise up and come up with a decent government.


If that's really what we want: enable the regular folks to get out of the way and live while the extreme sides insist on killing each other.  Invest heavily in making the "refugee camps" livable and attractive, and teach the Syrians there to govern themselves from the bottom up - i.e. help them peacefully decide what a "decent government" looks like - rather than rely on exertion of power from the top down.  Then whenever the war zone settles down, these people can move back in and take over.
 
2013-08-26 09:49:05 AM  

mbillips: amundb: Why do we always have to do something? How come no other countries see this as a problem? Let France go in there and surrender all over them or something. Sick of us sticking our nose where it does not belong.

Pay attention, son, I say, pay attention. Britain and France led the way in Libya, with our quite considerable air support. You're going to be hearing a lot about Syria in the next month, and it's going to involve NATO and especially Turkey taking the lead, again with our quite considerable air support. And Russia is gonna FREAK (my personal experience talking to Russian soldiers is that they're OK with the US, but they freakin' HATE NATO (probably because Germany is in NATO).


Didn't know we were the only country with planes.

//The more you know
 
2013-08-26 09:49:34 AM  
Over a million Americans died in the US Civil War.  I don't recall Syria bombing us to save lives.
 
2013-08-26 09:49:36 AM  
Hold your breath and bomb the chemicals, that'll teach them. Unless ...
 
2013-08-26 09:49:58 AM  

Nadie_AZ: It seems likely that President Obama will bomb Syria sometime in the coming weeks.

I would love to go for a few years without this country exporting its top product overseas.

If Obama does use force in Syria, he will do so because of clear evidence that Assad's regime has killed lots of civilians with chemical weapons. Two considerations will likely drive his decision, if it comes to that. First, he has drawn a "red line" on this issue, publicly, at least five times in the last year, and failure to follow through-especially after the latest revelations-would send confusing signals, at best, about U.S. resolve and credibility. Second, failure to respond would erode, perhaps obliterate, the taboo that the international community has placed on chemical weapons (especially nerve gas) since the end of World War I. I suspect that this factor may be more pertinent to Obama, who takes the issue of international norms very seriously.

Why are we getting involved again? Because our President couldn't shut up and feels like he has to act? No, that's not reason enough. Nor is it reason enough that a country in the middle of a civil war is basically throwing the kitchen sink at each other for survival.


The problem I have is that anyone could smuggle in some chemicals and release it.  Why should that trigger a retaliation>?
 
2013-08-26 09:53:40 AM  

neversubmit: Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.

I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.


You don't see that all of these wars and skirmishes in the Middle East stem from us meddling in the 70s when we shouldn't have?  Actually, you can argue that the Brits and French caused all of this with their meddling and artificial border drawing.  The Middle Easterners, being the racist savages that they are, are simply unable to share borders with people of a slightly different ethnicity or take on the same religion.
 
2013-08-26 09:54:52 AM  

neversubmit: Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.

I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.


What, pray tell, is the end game? How do we win here with intervention?
 
2013-08-26 09:56:53 AM  
"attack"??

This is like "coup", right?
 
2013-08-26 09:56:56 AM  
What will it look like? Smoked Mackerel fired by an Arleigh Burke-class gun.
 
2013-08-26 09:58:52 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: I know.. lets send in planes to the third most heavily network air defense.  You know.. the one with missles that can go 100k feet in the air.

And no Russians will be keen to test any stealth detection equipment.....


Meh. The previous third-best was in a little place called Iraq, in 1991. SAMs only work when they light off radar, and when they do that, they are big, immobile targets for HARM missiles. EA-18s take out the big SAMs with jamming and anti-radiation missiles, then B-2s and Tomahawks kill all the comm centers, and poof! No more networked air defense, just a bunch of locally directed SAM sites waiting to be killed. See the Bekaa Valley in 1982.

If Syria had a credible interceptor force, they could combine that with ground-based air defense to create a real problem, but they had only about 400 fighters and attack jets before the civil war, and half of those were Vietnam-era MiG 21s. Many of those are believed to be out of action by now.

If Turkey decided to take out Syria's air force, they wouldn't have much trouble doing it. They build their own F-16s and have modern AWACs. They're probably the fourth-most capable force in NATO, after the US, Britain and France.
 
2013-08-26 10:00:11 AM  

Nemo's Brother: neversubmit: Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.

I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.

You don't see that all of these wars and skirmishes in the Middle East stem from us meddling in the 70s when we shouldn't have?  Actually, you can argue that the Brits and French caused all of this with their meddling and artificial border drawing.  The Middle Easterners, being the racist savages that they are, are simply unable to share borders with people of a slightly different ethnicity or take on the same religion.


They did pretty well for centuries under the Ottoman Empire.

The French and English f*cked up the region and then the kick in the balls was a certain crazy guy in Saudi Arabia who was super devout got power right before this little thing called 'oil' was discovered. Crazy power plus wealth == recipe for batsh*t insanity.

He didn't export democracy. He exported fanaticism. And having Mecca in your nation is a pretty big deal.

The US came along a bit later and tried to play with the pieces already on the board.
 
2013-08-26 10:00:15 AM  
Doesn't Syria have an extremely sophisticated and modern air defense system? Aren't they also getting new missiles from Russia and China that were pretty much designed to shoot down American planes?

I don't see this ending as well as Kosovo or Libya.
 
2013-08-26 10:00:18 AM  

Nemo's Brother: neversubmit: Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.

I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.

What, pray tell, is the end game? How do we win here with intervention?


Chaos. Israel wants chaos in its neighbors, doesn't care how, just chaos. And what Israel wants, we do, that's what AIPAC pays all of our leaders for. Anyone wants to buck, and forget the money they picked up, well, they can deal with the media.

AIPAC are the bagmen, media are the legbreakers. Stranglehold. More war for Israel.
 
2013-08-26 10:00:20 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: The problem I have is that anyone could smuggle in some chemicals and release it. Why should that trigger a retaliation>?


I doubt anyone puts the opposition forces above a false flag operation, or believes them unable to aquire the weapons. Also a good reason for the US maintain an arms length from actual intervention. If European governments want to punish the regime, have at them. We have new and slightly used drones, tanks, aircraft, and all manner of lethal  weaponry to sell at prices that won't bust the Pocketbook of Austerity.
 
2013-08-26 10:00:39 AM  

Nemo's Brother: neversubmit: Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.

I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.

You don't see that all of these wars and skirmishes in the Middle East stem from us meddling in the 70s when we shouldn't have?  Actually, you can argue that the Brits and French caused all of this with their meddling and artificial border drawing.  The Middle Easterners, being the racist savages that they are, are simply unable to share borders with people of a slightly different ethnicity or take on the same religion.


files.list.co.uk
 
2013-08-26 10:02:16 AM  

xenophon10k: What will it look like? Smoked Mackerel fired by an Arleigh Burke-class gun.


/Tiny fist.
 
2013-08-26 10:05:03 AM  
If the US feels compelled to do something, may I suggest sending in half a dozen of those stealth choppers, take out (or capture) the key figures in the Syrian govt. and then get out? That's how he got OBL.

I don't usually approve of that sort of thing, but gassing your own populace kinda changes the rules, IMO.
 
2013-08-26 10:05:10 AM  
I thought I heard even Russia was making noise about the civilian chemical casualties a few days ago? I'm not sure getting involved with feet on the ground is a good idea at this point. Advise Doctors Without Borders and the UN guys to get out, announce loudly that the area around what's his face's home and the capital building will be the target 48 hours ahead of time, them send a few dozen missiles right there.

Gotta back up what you say. Just give the civilians, who have already been through enough, a chance to get the hell out of the way. If he decides to use them as human shields, I don't know what else to tell you. but something's gotta get hit at this point.
 
2013-08-26 10:05:36 AM  

Nemo's Brother: neversubmit: Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.

I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.

What, pray tell, is the end game? How do we win here with intervention?


I assume we're looking for a Bosnia- or Kosovo-style solution. Bomb the crap out of the worst player, and force them to honestly negotiate some kind of a peace, then send in multinational peacekeepers (in this case, they should be from Turkey and the Arab League, and no one else). Going to be tough to do with Assad in power, which means he may get the deal he's been offered to leave sweetened, and we'll probably attempt to take him out with a decapitation strike to get his mind right. Also, if all the Syrian generals' toys are going boom, one of them may handle him for us.

The end game is a colder civil war in Syria, with Saudis and Turks eating IEDs and buying all our surplus MRAPS trucks. Not a great solution, but better than what's been happening the past two years.
 
2013-08-26 10:06:29 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: I'm as pacifist as they come but at some particular point I think we need to just go all Iron Man on them. Destroy military infrastructure, chemical weapons and then just walk away and let them sort out their own problems.


Military infrastructure like power plants, water treatment facilities, bridges, highways... I'm sure the people of Syria would just love all the democracy and freedom you want to rain down on them.
 
2013-08-26 10:08:06 AM  

Cyrus the Mediocre: I'm guessing trebuchets and ballistas


I enjoy just Siege Tanks and SCVs, with Viking cover.
 
2013-08-26 10:09:12 AM  

Scythed: Doesn't Syria have an extremely sophisticated and modern air defense system? Aren't they also getting new missiles from Russia and China that were pretty much designed to shoot down American planes?

I don't see this ending as well as Kosovo or Libya.


Considering that Israel has bombed them at will recently to take out imported Russian missiles, I don't see this as that much of a problem. Air defense missiles have a built-in disadvantage against modern aircraft, which is that they can't dodge the missiles fired at their radars. The aircraft can fire and run at the outer range of the SAM, and the SAM can't shoot without lighting off radar and making itself an easy target.
 
2013-08-26 10:11:41 AM  

neversubmit: Wolf_Blitzer: neversubmit: Outrageous Muff: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Tinfoil? LOL How dated.

Go back to sleep, old man.

No really, what color are the chemtrails in your universe?

Is casting weak aspersions all you got. Pathetic.


A Malaysian hacker released two emails that he claimed were internal emails from a company called Britam. The emails were, in fact, forgeries - the headers had been cut and pasted and the purported content has no connection to Britam

bindlestiff2600's link contains more details

Still, the fact that they were obvious forgeries is of no consequence to those conspiracy nuts who really have to believe. Having originally been taken in by the emails, if you look around the web you will even see a theory that the hacker was part of a government conspiracy - the aim of which was to release obviously forged emails regarding a chemical weapon plot so people would subsequently then assume that any subsequently hacked emails that might theoretically be released regarding a chemical weapons plot would also be dismissed as forgeries

So, where are you in this?

Were you unaware that the emails were forgeries, or do you think that the government forged them?
 
2013-08-26 10:14:48 AM  

Uncle Tractor: If the US feels compelled to do something, may I suggest sending in half a dozen of those stealth choppers, take out (or capture) the key figures in the Syrian govt. and then get out? That's how he got OBL.

I don't usually approve of that sort of thing, but gassing your own populace kinda changes the rules, IMO.


Unfortunately, Assad has a little better security than OBL did. The only way we're going to hit him directly is from 25,000 feet up, the way we tried to kill Saddam.
 
2013-08-26 10:19:49 AM  

Nadie_AZ: It seems likely that President Obama will bomb Syria sometime in the coming weeks.

I would love to go for a few years without this country exporting its top product overseas.

If Obama does use force in Syria, he will do so because of clear evidence that Assad's regime has killed lots of civilians with chemical weapons. Two considerations will likely drive his decision, if it comes to that. First, he has drawn a "red line" on this issue, publicly, at least five times in the last year, and failure to follow through-especially after the latest revelations-would send confusing signals, at best, about U.S. resolve and credibility. Second, failure to respond would erode, perhaps obliterate, the taboo that the international community has placed on chemical weapons (especially nerve gas) since the end of World War I. I suspect that this factor may be more pertinent to Obama, who takes the issue of international norms very seriously.

Why are we getting involved again? Because our President couldn't shut up and feels like he has to act? No, that's not reason enough. Nor is it reason enough that a country in the middle of a civil war is basically throwing the kitchen sink at each other for survival.


I think it's more that Syria is a member of the UN. Sorry for throwing some logic into a Fark thread.
 
2013-08-26 10:22:04 AM  

21-7-b: neversubmit: Wolf_Blitzer: neversubmit: Outrageous Muff: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Tinfoil? LOL How dated.

Go back to sleep, old man.

No really, what color are the chemtrails in your universe?

Is casting weak aspersions all you got. Pathetic.

A Malaysian hacker released two emails that he claimed were internal emails from a company called Britam. The emails were, in fact, forgeries - the headers had been cut and pasted and the purported content has no connection to Britam

bindlestiff2600's link contains more details

Still, the fact that they were obvious forgeries is of no consequence to those conspiracy nuts who really have to believe. Having originally been taken in by the emails, if you look around the web you will even see a theory that the hacker was part of a government conspiracy - the aim of which was to release obviously forged emails regarding a chemical weapon plot so people would subsequently then assume that any subsequently hacked emails that might theoretically be released regarding a chemical weapons plot would also be dismissed as forgeries

So, where are you in this?

Were you unaware that the emails were forgeries, or do you think that the government forged them?


Plausible deniability, make real info look like fake info, so when it gets released it can be easily 'debunked'.

Download the Britam.Defence.rar

Regardless whether this is dis-information, FUD, mis-information, - or whatever - the information itself is *hard to find* now.

Good luck finding the truth whatever that may be.
 
2013-08-26 10:23:56 AM  

neversubmit: I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.


The reason most people don't understand is because their actions have been agressive acts of war against countries that the US Congress did not declare War against.  This is a serious violation of their oath of office to uphold the Constitution.  How do you not understand this highest level of Treason?  The only reason these things "Must" be done is to profit for the MIC, prop up the Fraudulent Federal Reserve Cartel(by keeping Oil and Gas traded with their fiat currency), and placate Israel.
 
2013-08-26 10:24:02 AM  

KidneyStone: Nadie_AZ: It seems likely that President Obama will bomb Syria sometime in the coming weeks.

I would love to go for a few years without this country exporting its top product overseas.

If Obama does use force in Syria, he will do so because of clear evidence that Assad's regime has killed lots of civilians with chemical weapons. Two considerations will likely drive his decision, if it comes to that. First, he has drawn a "red line" on this issue, publicly, at least five times in the last year, and failure to follow through-especially after the latest revelations-would send confusing signals, at best, about U.S. resolve and credibility. Second, failure to respond would erode, perhaps obliterate, the taboo that the international community has placed on chemical weapons (especially nerve gas) since the end of World War I. I suspect that this factor may be more pertinent to Obama, who takes the issue of international norms very seriously.

Why are we getting involved again? Because our President couldn't shut up and feels like he has to act? No, that's not reason enough. Nor is it reason enough that a country in the middle of a civil war is basically throwing the kitchen sink at each other for survival.

I think it's more that Syria is a member of the UN. Sorry for throwing some logic into a Fark thread.


So the US should attack because they are part of the international community that promised not to use chemical weapons on other nations? Why didn't anyone attack the US during Vietnam?

I don't understand the logic, apparently.
 
2013-08-26 10:29:17 AM  

neversubmit: 21-7-b: neversubmit: Wolf_Blitzer: neversubmit: Outrageous Muff: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Tinfoil? LOL How dated.

Go back to sleep, old man.

No really, what color are the chemtrails in your universe?

Is casting weak aspersions all you got. Pathetic.

A Malaysian hacker released two emails that he claimed were internal emails from a company called Britam. The emails were, in fact, forgeries - the headers had been cut and pasted and the purported content has no connection to Britam

bindlestiff2600's link contains more details

Still, the fact that they were obvious forgeries is of no consequence to those conspiracy nuts who really have to believe. Having originally been taken in by the emails, if you look around the web you will even see a theory that the hacker was part of a government conspiracy - the aim of which was to release obviously forged emails regarding a chemical weapon plot so people would subsequently then assume that any subsequently hacked emails that might theoretically be released regarding a chemical weapons plot would also be dismissed as forgeries

So, where are you in this?

Were you unaware that the emails were forgeries, or do you think that the government forged them?

Plausible deniability, make real info look like fake info, so when it gets released it can be easily 'debunked'.

Download the Britam.Defence.rar

Regardless whether this is dis-information, FUD, mis-information, - or whatever - the information itself is *hard to find* now.

Good luck finding the truth whatever that may be.


Oh, so you are jsut another conspiracy nut?

The truth is that the headers to the two documents purporting to be internal Britam emails were cut and pasted and that the content had nothing to do with Britam. This information isn't hidden and is really easy to find - you can't ignore it no matter how hard you try. If you were taken in by a scam, that's ok, it happens to all of us - but this scam was exposed long ago - either you missed that or are ignoring it in trying to mislead people
 
2013-08-26 10:29:59 AM  
www.asingularcreation.com
OUR DRONES WILL BLOCK OUT THE SUN!
 
2013-08-26 10:30:19 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: Cyrus the Mediocre: I'm guessing trebuchets and ballistas

I enjoy just Siege Tanks and SCVs, with Viking cover.


3.bp.blogspot.com

It's all about the AC Cobra.
 
2013-08-26 10:30:57 AM  
If it looks like we're doing this without the help of the Turks, or at least a blind eye from the Russians, it's gonna go badly.
 
2013-08-26 10:32:46 AM  

21-7-b: Oh, so you are jsut another conspiracy nut?


I'm sorry that it troubles you to see how the sausage is made, do you like sports? Maybe you would be happier in the sports tab.
 
2013-08-26 10:34:09 AM  

Giltric: Nutsac_Jim: Cyrus the Mediocre: I'm guessing trebuchets and ballistas

I enjoy just Siege Tanks and SCVs, with Viking cover.

[478x411 from http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j3WIbqw5IZ0/T_HvJan6xAI/AAAAAAAAIK0/GOWH74QQ WAI/s1600/AOK-CHEAT-4.jpg image 478x411]

It's all about the AC Cobra.


Ever had one converted by enemy priests? Oh good times. The AI isn't even sure what to do with it.
 
2013-08-26 10:35:38 AM  
I'm just glad CNN has it's priorities straight and is really focusing on the key issue of this week, which is of course Miley Cyrus twerking at the VMAs.  I guess nothing else of interest is happening.
 
2013-08-26 10:36:51 AM  
www.lahc.edu
 
2013-08-26 10:37:23 AM  
Russia and Iran are only too happy to bog the U.S. down in a quagmire in their client state's. Lebanon will have to be part of any intervention since its essentially a proxy/storage site for Syria.  The prospect of entering a battle between Hizb Allah (and Assad) on one side and al-Qaeda cannot produce a favorable outcome. If any 'Western' power is to be involved it should be France, maybe with Turkey as a logistical partner. Both are NATO anyway. France is the former colonial power and has good historical relations with Syria. As far as the U.S. goes--no, no, no, no and PHUKC NO.
 
2013-08-26 10:39:57 AM  
A STERN NOTE!
 
2013-08-26 10:45:40 AM  

Ned Stark: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

A bunch of Libyans would probably have a thing or two to say about these alleged "doves" if they weren't already dead.


What difference does it make!
 
2013-08-26 10:48:59 AM  
International relations are teh hard, if fark comments in this thread are any indication.
 
2013-08-26 10:49:55 AM  

neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David


Your blog sucks.

/oh, wait. I got this. Other media outlets don't have it because "THEY" don't want them to show it.
 
2013-08-26 11:03:19 AM  
It's not like we have a bad reputation when it comes to calling out WMDs in the Mid-East.
 
2013-08-26 11:04:20 AM  
www.mojodojo.co.za
 
2013-08-26 11:04:40 AM  

hardinparamedic: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

Your blog sucks.

/oh, wait. I got this. Other media outlets don't have it because "THEY" don't want them to show it.


Daily Mail in £100,000-plus payout over Syrian chemical weapons story

The article quoted one email supposedly sent between two executives at the company which claimed to show that Britam had agreed to supply chemical weapons to Homs for use in an attack. However, the emails turned out to be forged.

As I said earlier good luck finding out the truth. End the end you will believe what you want to and I still be wondering what happened.
 
2013-08-26 11:05:22 AM  

Apik0r0s: It's not like we  most major western inteligence agencies have a bad reputation when it comes to calling out WMDs in the Mid-East.



FTFY
 
2013-08-26 11:06:08 AM  

neversubmit: 21-7-b: Oh, so you are jsut another conspiracy nut?

I'm sorry that it troubles you to see how the sausage is made, do you like sports? Maybe you would be happier in the sports tab.


Look, dude, the simple fact is that you didn't fact check something that you posted and then defended. That's fine. You've been called out now and can't defend it further, except to hint at ever greater conspiracies. You want to make yourself look like a conspiracy nut who latches onto debunked evidence as the central evidence for there being a conspiracy, you carry right along. I can't stop you making yourself look like a conspiracy nut, but obviously I can help others to take you as seriously as you deserve to be taken - which, as you have demonstrated, isn't very seriously. Good on you
 
2013-08-26 11:06:49 AM  

utah dude: Outrageous Muff: It will be based in Jordan and will only secure the chemical weapons sites. That's it. Now what Turkey does is up in the air.

turkeys can't fly,dumbass.


It's a helicopter, and it's coming this way. It's flying something behind it, I can't quite make it out, it's a large banner and it says, uh - Happy... Thaaaaanksss... giving! ... From ... W ... K ... R ... P!! What a sight, ladies and gentlemen, what a sight. The 'copter seems to be circling the parking area now, I guess it's looking for a place to land. No! Something just came out of the back of the helicopter! It's, uh, a dark object. Perhaps a skydiver. Plummeting to the earth from only two thousand feet in the air. A second, a third! No parachutes yet. Can't be skydivers... I can't tell just yet what they are, but - Oh my God, they're turkeys!! Johnny, can you get this? Oh, they're plunging to the earth right in front of our eyes! One just went through the windshield of a parked car! Oh, this is just terrible! The crowd is running around pushing each other! Oh, my goodness! Oh, the humanity! People are running about! The turkeys are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement!
 
2013-08-26 11:12:44 AM  

neversubmit: As I said earlier good luck finding out the truth. End the end you will believe what you want to and I still be wondering what happened.


i.imgur.com

Christ. The letters were proved to be a fake, and you're still championing them as the truth.
 
2013-08-26 11:12:56 AM  

KarmicDisaster: At least Fox News can finally switch over from bleating about "why doesn't Obama act  in Syria!" to "why did Obama act in Syria!" for a change.


Hobodeluxe: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

what will be funny is that all of the GOP in congress demanding action in Syria now will do a 180 as soon as the bombs start to drop and start talking about what a mess he made.


Obama will be the REAL victim in all of this.
 
2013-08-26 11:13:46 AM  

21-7-b: neversubmit: 21-7-b: Oh, so you are jsut another conspiracy nut?

I'm sorry that it troubles you to see how the sausage is made, do you like sports? Maybe you would be happier in the sports tab.

Look, dude, the simple fact is that you didn't fact check something that you posted and then defended. That's fine. You've been called out now and can't defend it further, except to hint at ever greater conspiracies. You want to make yourself look like a conspiracy nut who latches onto debunked evidence as the central evidence for there being a conspiracy, you carry right along. I can't stop you making yourself look like a conspiracy nut, but obviously I can help others to take you as seriously as you deserve to be taken - which, as you have demonstrated, isn't very seriously. Good on you


You seem to think I'm suppose to spoon feed you, I don't do that, and I don't care what you think of me. It's very kind of you to help others because without you they would be lost.
 
2013-08-26 11:15:03 AM  

hardinparamedic: neversubmit: As I said earlier good luck finding out the truth. End the end you will believe what you want to and I still be wondering what happened.

[850x743 from http://i.imgur.com/bwFdMLt.jpg image 850x743]

Christ. The letters were proved to be a fake, and you're still championing them as the truth.


I am? Your reading comprehension needs work.
 
2013-08-26 11:17:20 AM  

freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.

  he'd quit halfway to Aleppo in order to invade Jordan, which was nearby, and had some brown guys in it who said something mean to his daddy once.

FTFY.

/Agrees we should stay out of Syria, actually.
 
2013-08-26 11:18:52 AM  

neversubmit: I am? Your reading comprehension needs work.


Oh, you're just trolling, then.
 
2013-08-26 11:18:55 AM  

neversubmit: hardinparamedic: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

Your blog sucks.

/oh, wait. I got this. Other media outlets don't have it because "THEY" don't want them to show it.

Daily Mail in £100,000-plus payout over Syrian chemical weapons story

The article quoted one email supposedly sent between two executives at the company which claimed to show that Britam had agreed to supply chemical weapons to Homs for use in an attack. However, the emails turned out to be forged.

As I said earlier good luck finding out the truth. End the end you will believe what you want to and I still be wondering what happened.


I know you believe that there is a conspiracy and that it is important to you that other people believe it too, but the fact is that anyone with google can really easily find the truth by googling for information regarding the forged emails' headers. You don't need luck to find the truth in this instance - you need access to a search engine, the ability to type in two or three words, and less than five minutes to research the topic. The trouble is with people like you that once some fringe website posts half-baked evidence of a conspiracy you believe it without doing any fact-checking. The problem you have is that you aren't very good at filtering information and you aren't very good at admitting when you are wrong. That is, the problem is with you and others like you and that is obviously unfortunate, especially because you think the problem is with everyone else. All we can do is show that you are misguided - we know we can't change the beliefs of people like you, "neversubmit," because it is clearly more important to you to stand by your opinion than to be factaully accurate
 
2013-08-26 11:18:58 AM  

mbillips: rkiller1: So the US is going to bomb people to save lives?

From TFA:  In all, "collateral damage" over the 78 days [of the Kosovo bombing campaign] killed an estimated 1,200 civilians.

More than 100,000 Syrians have died in the civil war, 1,000 in the recent chemical weapons attack. It's difficult to stop a war just by bombing one side, but dropping precision-guided bombs on military targets and infrastructure doesn't kill nearly as many people as the civil war you're trying to stop does.


Unless your bombing just weakens the dominant side enough to let the conflict drag on without resolution...then your "surgical" intervention has made things worse.
 
2013-08-26 11:20:18 AM  

neversubmit: 21-7-b: neversubmit: 21-7-b: Oh, so you are jsut another conspiracy nut?

I'm sorry that it troubles you to see how the sausage is made, do you like sports? Maybe you would be happier in the sports tab.

Look, dude, the simple fact is that you didn't fact check something that you posted and then defended. That's fine. You've been called out now and can't defend it further, except to hint at ever greater conspiracies. You want to make yourself look like a conspiracy nut who latches onto debunked evidence as the central evidence for there being a conspiracy, you carry right along. I can't stop you making yourself look like a conspiracy nut, but obviously I can help others to take you as seriously as you deserve to be taken - which, as you have demonstrated, isn't very seriously. Good on you

You seem to think I'm suppose to spoon feed you, I don't do that, and I don't care what you think of me. It's very kind of you to help others because without you they would be lost.


You are just talking nonsense
 
2013-08-26 11:20:58 AM  
We tell the rebels: "we're not helping until you get rid of Al Qaida... then, we'd be happy to help.  You screwed yourselves letting them 'help'.

"Have a nice day"

USA
 
2013-08-26 11:21:38 AM  

PunGent: freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.  he'd quit halfway to Aleppo in order to invade Jordan, which was nearby, and had some brown guys in it who said something mean to his daddy once.

FTFY.

/Agrees we should stay out of Syria, actually.


right, trying to assassinate a POTUS is just saying something mean. revisionist history, this is how it works?
 
2013-08-26 11:21:55 AM  

urbangirl: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke


The road to hell is paved with...what was it again?
 
2013-08-26 11:31:44 AM  

21-7-b: neversubmit: hardinparamedic: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

Your blog sucks.

/oh, wait. I got this. Other media outlets don't have it because "THEY" don't want them to show it.

Daily Mail in £100,000-plus payout over Syrian chemical weapons story

The article quoted one email supposedly sent between two executives at the company which claimed to show that Britam had agreed to supply chemical weapons to Homs for use in an attack. However, the emails turned out to be forged.

As I said earlier good luck finding out the truth. End the end you will believe what you want to and I still be wondering what happened.

I know you believe that there is a conspiracy and that it is important to you that other people believe it too, but the fact is that anyone with google can really easily find the truth by googling for information regarding the forged emails' headers. You don't need luck to find the truth in this instance - you need access to a search engine, the ability to type in two or three words, and less than five minutes to research the topic. The trouble is with people like you that once some fringe website posts half-baked evidence of a conspiracy you believe it without doing any fact-checking. The problem you have is that you aren't very good at filtering information and you aren't very good at admitting when you are wrong. That is, the problem is with you and others like you and that is obviously unfortunate, especially because you think the problem is with everyone else. All we can do ...


It's no wonder you are so sure, you can read minds, LOL!
 
2013-08-26 11:32:49 AM  
What's with the blinking contrarians coming out of the woodwork? Not quite trolls, but knuckledraggers who will take up an opposite position just to fark with your head. I don't have the right medication for that. Time for the ignore.
 
2013-08-26 11:33:42 AM  

Joe Blowme: PunGent: freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.  he'd quit halfway to Aleppo in order to invade Jordan, which was nearby, and had some brown guys in it who said something mean to his daddy once.

FTFY.

/Agrees we should stay out of Syria, actually.

right, trying to assassinate a POTUS is just saying something mean. revisionist history, this is how it works?


NATO didn't believe that crap, and neither do I.

You should totally get that into Wikipedia though...they seem to have not believed it either :)
 
2013-08-26 11:37:16 AM  
Lucky for us Romney didn't win we'd be invading Iran right now based off these chemical weapons attacks.
 
2013-08-26 11:39:14 AM  

PainfulItching: What's with the blinking contrarians coming out of the woodwork? Not quite trolls, but knuckledraggers who will take up an opposite position just to fark with your head. I don't have the right medication for that. Time for the ignore.


That's right, ignore opposing views or even the Devil's advocate.  The echo chamber is a safe place to hide.
 
2013-08-26 11:39:36 AM  

neversubmit: 21-7-b: neversubmit: hardinparamedic: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

Your blog sucks.

/oh, wait. I got this. Other media outlets don't have it because "THEY" don't want them to show it.

Daily Mail in £100,000-plus payout over Syrian chemical weapons story

The article quoted one email supposedly sent between two executives at the company which claimed to show that Britam had agreed to supply chemical weapons to Homs for use in an attack. However, the emails turned out to be forged.

As I said earlier good luck finding out the truth. End the end you will believe what you want to and I still be wondering what happened.

I know you believe that there is a conspiracy and that it is important to you that other people believe it too, but the fact is that anyone with google can really easily find the truth by googling for information regarding the forged emails' headers. You don't need luck to find the truth in this instance - you need access to a search engine, the ability to type in two or three words, and less than five minutes to research the topic. The trouble is with people like you that once some fringe website posts half-baked evidence of a conspiracy you believe it without doing any fact-checking. The problem you have is that you aren't very good at filtering information and you aren't very good at admitting when you are wrong. That is, the problem is with you and others like you and that is obviously unfortunate, especially because you think the problem is with everyone else. All we can do ...

It's no wonder you are so sure, you can read minds, LOL!


I can read on this very page the contribution of someone calling himself "neversubmit" who posts conspiacy theories and who refuses to admit he is wrong when he is shown that the particular conspiracy theory that he has invested time and effort defending has been debunked, and who instead tries to distract from the fact that he has been shown to be wrong
 
2013-08-26 11:41:29 AM  
Just make sure the Air Force gets a  detailed map of where embassies are currently located... Seriously, we don't need a repeat of what happened in Belgrade.
 
2013-08-26 11:45:25 AM  
so syria looks like serbia? well at least that was our last successful military intervention...
 
2013-08-26 11:46:29 AM  

21-7-b: I can read on this very page the contribution of someone calling himself "neversubmit" who posts conspiacy theories and who refuses to admit he is wrong when he is shown that the particular conspiracy theory that he has invested time and effort defending has been debunked, and who instead tries to distract from the fact that he has been shown to be wrong


Your mindreading has failed you, the neversubmit handle just means I don't submit headlines to Fark.com  How can I say I'm wrong when I never said I was right?

Mind reading: Inferring a person's possible or probable (usually negative) thoughts from their behavior and nonverbal communication; assuming the worst, or some other preliminary conclusion, without asking the person.
 
2013-08-26 11:46:34 AM  

urbangirl: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke


FIGHT APATHY.......or...don't...
 
2013-08-26 11:47:01 AM  
What will the American response look like?

3.bp.blogspot.com

That sums up what it will actually look like, except with no glasses bigger ears and darker skin.

...And less jowel-y
 
2013-08-26 11:54:56 AM  
farking Bush.

War mongering economy collapsing asshole.

We need to get Obama in office so he can fix this shiat once and for all.
 
2013-08-26 11:58:46 AM  
www.dailyllama.com

WHAT...IS THE CAPITAL OF SYRIA?
 
2013-08-26 12:08:01 PM  

PunGent: Joe Blowme: PunGent: freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.  he'd quit halfway to Aleppo in order to invade Jordan, which was nearby, and had some brown guys in it who said something mean to his daddy once.

FTFY.

/Agrees we should stay out of Syria, actually.

right, trying to assassinate a POTUS is just saying something mean. revisionist history, this is how it works?

NATO didn't believe that crap, and neither do I.

You should totally get that into Wikipedia though...they seem to have not believed it either :)


wiki? The site that even HS wont accept for citation?


U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill BushBy David Von Drehle and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, June 27, 1993; Page A01


U.S. Navy ships launched 23 Tomahawk missiles against the headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service yesterday in what President Clinton said was a "firm and commensurate" response to Iraq's plan to assassinate former president George Bush in mid-April.


Damn that Clinton, i knew he was just another Bush lackey.
 
2013-08-26 12:08:04 PM  

neversubmit: 21-7-b: I can read on this very page the contribution of someone calling himself "neversubmit" who posts conspiacy theories and who refuses to admit he is wrong when he is shown that the particular conspiracy theory that he has invested time and effort defending has been debunked, and who instead tries to distract from the fact that he has been shown to be wrong

Your mindreading has failed you, the neversubmit handle just means I don't submit headlines to Fark.com  How can I say I'm wrong when I never said I was right?

Mind reading: Inferring a person's possible or probable (usually negative) thoughts from their behavior and nonverbal communication; assuming the worst, or some other preliminary conclusion, without asking the person.


You posted the text from the forged document, tried to dismiss the claims that it was a conspiracy, and then claimed that the truth was impossible to find. You were shown to be wrong, and, rather than admitting you were wrong, have tried to distract from that fact. The longer you go on, the more and more dishonest you are making yourself look.
 
2013-08-26 12:11:12 PM  
Way better article on the coming American war in Syria, with lots of quality linkage, Link
 
2013-08-26 12:14:19 PM  

21-7-b: neversubmit: 21-7-b: I can read on this very page the contribution of someone calling himself "neversubmit" who posts conspiacy theories and who refuses to admit he is wrong when he is shown that the particular conspiracy theory that he has invested time and effort defending has been debunked, and who instead tries to distract from the fact that he has been shown to be wrong

Your mindreading has failed you, the neversubmit handle just means I don't submit headlines to Fark.com  How can I say I'm wrong when I never said I was right?

Mind reading: Inferring a person's possible or probable (usually negative) thoughts from their behavior and nonverbal communication; assuming the worst, or some other preliminary conclusion, without asking the person.

You posted the text from the forged document, tried to dismiss the claims that it was a conspiracy, and then claimed that the truth was impossible to find. You were shown to be wrong, and, rather than admitting you were wrong, have tried to distract from that fact. The longer you go on, the more and more dishonest you are making yourself look.


Have you tried putting me on ignore? Maybe that will help you, anyway I hope the best for you and take care. Later.
 
2013-08-26 12:21:03 PM  
Let's attack them with Hope and Change.  It worked so well for him here.
 
2013-08-26 12:21:41 PM  
Optimistically hoping we don't bomb anyone


//There are no good solutions for us there let's stay the fark out
 
2013-08-26 12:23:26 PM  
I like how they used Kosovo as a shining example yet just recently terrorists from Kosovo tried to attack Fort Dix, NJ.

STAY THE F*CK OUT OF SYRIA
 
2013-08-26 12:27:22 PM  
I think I know a better shiathole to shove those bombs up...
 
2013-08-26 12:30:34 PM  

neversubmit: 21-7-b: neversubmit: 21-7-b: I can read on this very page the contribution of someone calling himself "neversubmit" who posts conspiacy theories and who refuses to admit he is wrong when he is shown that the particular conspiracy theory that he has invested time and effort defending has been debunked, and who instead tries to distract from the fact that he has been shown to be wrong

Your mindreading has failed you, the neversubmit handle just means I don't submit headlines to Fark.com  How can I say I'm wrong when I never said I was right?

Mind reading: Inferring a person's possible or probable (usually negative) thoughts from their behavior and nonverbal communication; assuming the worst, or some other preliminary conclusion, without asking the person.

You posted the text from the forged document, tried to dismiss the claims that it was a conspiracy, and then claimed that the truth was impossible to find. You were shown to be wrong, and, rather than admitting you were wrong, have tried to distract from that fact. The longer you go on, the more and more dishonest you are making yourself look.

Have you tried putting me on ignore? Maybe that will help you, anyway I hope the best for you and take care. Later.


I would rather challenge bs than ignore it (as you should have realized by now), so I have no idea why you think I would put you on ignore. You should try to actually contribute something in future
 
2013-08-26 12:33:27 PM  

Loaf's Tray: [323x176 from http://www.dailyllama.com/news/2003/images/bridgekeeper.jpg image 323x176]

WHAT...IS THE CAPITAL OF SYRIA?


"S" ?
 
2013-08-26 12:45:36 PM  
For some reason "false flag" sounds a lot less derpy when applied to muslim extremists intent on setting up an oppressive theocracy.  Gassing their own people?  Eh, I can buy that.

But regardless, how do we expect to find these chemical weapons and confirm their destruction without a hell of a lot of boots on the ground?  Even if we are sure of a site and bomb it to dust, they'll say we blew up a milk factory or a hospital or a factory-sized day care center.

And say we do manage to get a coalition together and oust Assad for his crimes, then what?  There's still a civil war.
 
2013-08-26 12:55:58 PM  

Giltric: B1 bombers loaded with 125,000 pounds of Nobel peace prizes each.


www.politifake.org
 
2013-08-26 12:56:33 PM  
It never matters, whatever we do or don't do. It will be wrong and everyone will hate us for it.
 
2013-08-26 12:59:26 PM  
Obama should just declare it a "war free zone"..... problem solved
 
2013-08-26 01:03:46 PM  
mycatbirdseat.com
 
2013-08-26 01:04:31 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: PainfulItching: What's with the blinking contrarians coming out of the woodwork? Not quite trolls, but knuckledraggers who will take up an opposite position just to fark with your head. I don't have the right medication for that. Time for the ignore.

That's right, ignore opposing views or even the Devil's advocate.  The echo chamber is a safe place to hide.


Yeah that's it. It's not that most Farkers are titanic assholes or anything.
 
2013-08-26 01:06:21 PM  

neversubmit: Your mindreading has failed you, the neversubmit handle just means I don't submit headlines to Fark.com  How can I say I'm wrong when I never said I was right?


Oh dear GOD.

Okay. Let me lay this out for you. You put forward an infamous hoax that was created to slander a PMC and implicate the United States as engineering the war in Syria.

It was pointed out to you this was such.

You took the route of you really didn't believe this, you're just asking questions.

People called you on your BS.

Look, if you REALLY don't want to be labeled a kook, tin-foil hatter, or conspiracy theorist, don't act like one.
 
2013-08-26 01:13:14 PM  
I've decided not to put anyone on ignore and watch this unfold. It's like watching an orangutan play with it's own poop. Antihumanists trying to convert others. It's a laugh a minute.
 
2013-08-26 01:19:02 PM  

Joe Blowme: Obama should just declare it a "war free zone"..... problem solved


Or the UN could make war illegal under international law. I'm sure it would work. However it is done, we need more talky-talky and less shooty-shooty. Guns never solve anything. Just ask anybody on this site.
 
2013-08-26 01:19:09 PM  
Affordable health care.

It will certainly extinguish Syria forever.
 
2013-08-26 01:29:53 PM  
Syria hates us for our freedom.
 
2013-08-26 01:31:04 PM  
I am going to guess if we do intervene, it will either end up a Somalia or Iraq imho...
 
2013-08-26 01:33:38 PM  

PainfulItching: I've decided not to put anyone on ignore and watch this unfold. It's like watching an orangutan play with it's own poop. Antihumanists trying to convert others. It's a laugh a minute.


If you care to, go look up some of the pre-Iraq threads from 2003-ish. The come back and see how many farkers with war hard-ons back then are all, "God, what was I thinking?!" today.
 
2013-08-26 01:34:11 PM  

verbaltoxin: Smeggy Smurf: PainfulItching: What's with the blinking contrarians coming out of the woodwork? Not quite trolls, but knuckledraggers who will take up an opposite position just to fark with your head. I don't have the right medication for that. Time for the ignore.

That's right, ignore opposing views or even the Devil's advocate.  The echo chamber is a safe place to hide.

Yeah that's it. It's not that most Farkers are titanic assholes or anything.


HEY!!! I resemble that remark!!
 
2013-08-26 01:43:04 PM  

Headso: Lucky for us Romney didn't win we'd be invading Iran right now based off these chemical weapons attacks.



Yeah, I'm much happier to be bombing Syria.
 
2013-08-26 01:44:43 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: neversubmit: Outrageous Muff: neversubmit: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

Phil, we've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous.

Your Kind regards, David

When you wake up in the morning do you change your tinfoil hat then or wait until after you shower?

Tinfoil? LOL How dated.

Go back to sleep, old man.

No really, what color are the chemtrails in your universe?


HAARP colored. With little Alex Jones head polka dots.
 
2013-08-26 01:45:13 PM  

Joe Blowme: PunGent: Joe Blowme: PunGent: freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.  he'd quit halfway to Aleppo in order to invade Jordan, which was nearby, and had some brown guys in it who said something mean to his daddy once.

FTFY.

/Agrees we should stay out of Syria, actually.

right, trying to assassinate a POTUS is just saying something mean. revisionist history, this is how it works?

NATO didn't believe that crap, and neither do I.

You should totally get that into Wikipedia though...they seem to have not believed it either :)

wiki? The site that even HS wont accept for citation?


U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill BushBy David Von Drehle and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, June 27, 1993; Page A01

U.S. Navy ships launched 23 Tomahawk missiles against the headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service yesterday in what President Clinton said was a "firm and commensurate" response to Iraq's plan to assassinate former president George Bush in mid-April.


Damn that Clinton, i knew he was just another Bush lackey.


Lol...citing CLINTON for veracity now?  I thought you wingnuts were all about his perjury  :)

Make up your minds.

Both ways:  not yours.
 
2013-08-26 01:47:53 PM  

Apik0r0s: Nemo's Brother: neversubmit: Nemo's Brother: Onkel Buck: Im just going to enjoy watching all of Barrys supportive doves turn into hawks

Some will just vanish for a while.  A large number of the usual Total Farkers have been very silent about Obama lately.

I still support those (Bush) and these (Obama) actions no matter who the figure head. These things must be done, I don't expect most people to understand.

What, pray tell, is the end game? How do we win here with intervention?

Chaos. Israel wants chaos in its neighbors, doesn't care how, just chaos. And what Israel wants, we do, that's what AIPAC pays all of our leaders for. Anyone wants to buck, and forget the money they picked up, well, they can deal with the media.

AIPAC are the bagmen, media are the legbreakers. Stranglehold. More war for Israel.


OMG! Those sneaky Jews tricked us again with their bags of gold!
 
2013-08-26 01:55:05 PM  
Currently Syria looks like this:

i2.cdn.turner.com

We will use some of these:

www.militaryfactory.com

To make Syria look like this:

northiowatoday.com

And then the Syrians will feel like this:

www.nypost.com
 
2013-08-26 01:58:29 PM  

muck4doo: OMG! Those sneaky Jews tricked us again with their bags of gold!


Who did trick us into invading Iraq after 9/11? Is Judith Miller not Jewish? How about the Sulzbergers who own the New York Times, who took the unprecedented step of allowing her carte blanche to print whatever she liked on the front page with no fact checking at all?

Just a great big coincidence. Like it's just a coincidence that every time you turn around, right wing Jews are playing out "canards" yet again.
 
2013-08-26 02:07:14 PM  

verbaltoxin: Smeggy Smurf: PainfulItching: What's with the blinking contrarians coming out of the woodwork? Not quite trolls, but knuckledraggers who will take up an opposite position just to fark with your head. I don't have the right medication for that. Time for the ignore.

That's right, ignore opposing views or even the Devil's advocate.  The echo chamber is a safe place to hide.

Yeah that's it. It's not that most Farkers are titanic assholes or anything.


www.screenslam.com

What a Titanic asshole might look like

/do not GIS titanic asshole
 
2013-08-26 02:12:19 PM  

freak7

Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.

^ This.
The libs that just a few weeks ago when zero was saying we weren't going to get involved were beating their chests, declaring what a great man zero is for staying the fark out of it.

Now that he's sighing the guns, the obamabots beat the war drumbs.

sheep.
 
2013-08-26 02:18:05 PM  
In the future there is only war.
 
2013-08-26 02:18:48 PM  
drums *sigh ffs*
 
2013-08-26 02:20:24 PM  

Apik0r0s: muck4doo: OMG! Those sneaky Jews tricked us again with their bags of gold!

Who did trick us into invading Iraq after 9/11? Is Judith Miller not Jewish? How about the Sulzbergers who own the New York Times, who took the unprecedented step of allowing her carte blanche to print whatever she liked on the front page with no fact checking at all?

Just a great big coincidence. Like it's just a coincidence that every time you turn around, right wing Jews are playing out "canards" yet again.


Have you tried taking their little bags of gold away?
 
2013-08-26 02:20:51 PM  
Since Kerry is Sec. of State I would imagine he will win this one, like he won in VN, by shooting someone in the back.
 
2013-08-26 02:26:22 PM  
I don't think most people understand how the Syria situation will almost certainly escalate very quickly.  Russia has long been Syria's ally and the US and NATO have been encroaching on Russia's oil and gas industry for many years.  Syria is their line in the sand.

The US will weigh its options heavily in order to more accurately gauge Russia's temperature.  A pointless resolution will first be introduced to the UN, with Russia and China voting a big NO.  But not to fear, NATO will most eagerly run with the 'humanitarian' torch.  The process should take a few weeks and buy Russia some time.

I'm not sure that Syria's air defenses were ever that comprehensive, but they are definitely not capable of shielding against what is to come.  Russia has to defend Syria from the outset as there is not much point in aiding a bombed-out ally.  Iran should wait on the sidelines to see what develops so as not to invite an attack on itself, but will probably be drawn in soon enough.  And is that the point at which China gets involved?

This Cold War confrontation has been 50+ years in the making.  It WILL NOT be a proxy war circa Korea or Vietnam because Russia cannot allow Syria to fall.  They will not toss Assad a few AK-47s and hope for the best, US air superiority and the effectiveness of their non-nuke arsenal guarantees that Syria would be a smoldering ruins within days.
 
2013-08-26 02:34:54 PM  
Kerry to give statement on Syria at 2:30 ET. Must be lame or Obama would do it himself....

Sorry to post a Faux link.  http://video.foxnews.com/v/2553565088001/

Nothing on CNN and MSNBC says WATCH LIVE: PresidentObama to award Medal of Honor to Army Soldier.

WTH? Is the Secy of State making a remark on Syria not news worthy these days? PS - Obama looks beat-down, he was sweaty and tired looking, geez... this job does get to people.
 
2013-08-26 02:42:42 PM  
 
2013-08-26 03:01:14 PM  
So... yeah. We're really gonna bomb Syria it sounds like?

I'll be hiding under my desk.
 
2013-08-26 03:02:13 PM  

PunGent: Joe Blowme: PunGent: Joe Blowme: PunGent: freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.  he'd quit halfway to Aleppo in order to invade Jordan, which was nearby, and had some brown guys in it who said something mean to his daddy once.

FTFY.

/Agrees we should stay out of Syria, actually.

right, trying to assassinate a POTUS is just saying something mean. revisionist history, this is how it works?

NATO didn't believe that crap, and neither do I.

You should totally get that into Wikipedia though...they seem to have not believed it either :)

wiki? The site that even HS wont accept for citation?


U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill BushBy David Von Drehle and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, June 27, 1993; Page A01

U.S. Navy ships launched 23 Tomahawk missiles against the headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service yesterday in what President Clinton said was a "firm and commensurate" response to Iraq's plan to assassinate former president George Bush in mid-April.


Damn that Clinton, i knew he was just another Bush lackey.

Lol...citing CLINTON for veracity now?  I thought you wingnuts were all about his perjury  :)

Make up your minds.

Both ways:  not yours.


Hey, hey, you the one who said an attempted assassination of an ex POTUS was = to  just saying something mean about him. I just pointed out that even Clinton thought it was more than just saying something mean.
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-08-26 03:29:53 PM  
maybe so, but if you drop one from a jet, it WILL definitely fall.

it's falling, with style
 
2013-08-26 03:38:14 PM  

muck4doo: Apik0r0s: muck4doo: OMG! Those sneaky Jews tricked us again with their bags of gold!

Who did trick us into invading Iraq after 9/11? Is Judith Miller not Jewish? How about the Sulzbergers who own the New York Times, who took the unprecedented step of allowing her carte blanche to print whatever she liked on the front page with no fact checking at all?

Just a great big coincidence. Like it's just a coincidence that every time you turn around, right wing Jews are playing out "canards" yet again.

Have you tried taking their little bags of gold away?


Are you trying to get him killed?
 
2013-08-26 03:39:42 PM  

Joe Blowme: muck4doo: Apik0r0s: muck4doo: OMG! Those sneaky Jews tricked us again with their bags of gold!

Who did trick us into invading Iraq after 9/11? Is Judith Miller not Jewish? How about the Sulzbergers who own the New York Times, who took the unprecedented step of allowing her carte blanche to print whatever she liked on the front page with no fact checking at all?

Just a great big coincidence. Like it's just a coincidence that every time you turn around, right wing Jews are playing out "canards" yet again.

Have you tried taking their little bags of gold away?

Are you trying to get him killed?


ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2013-08-26 03:43:47 PM  

urbangirl: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke


Where'd Ned win his CIB?
 
2013-08-26 03:45:32 PM  

urbangirl: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke


Oh, and what was his position on the trans-Atlantic slave trade?  And people striking for a living wage in Britain?
 
2013-08-26 03:46:23 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: FTA: Most telling perhaps is a story in the New York Times, noting that Obama's national-security aides are studying the 1999 air war in Kosovo as a possible blueprint for action in Syria.

Indeed it's very telling that they're using that.

After eight years of searching, evidence of genocide against Kosovo's ethnic Albanians has not materialized. The number of ethnic Albanians who died or went missing is anywhere from 90 percent to 99 percent lower than the estimates we were given during the war.


As someone who has good friends who are Albanian, go to hell you farking ignoramous.
 
2013-08-26 04:15:43 PM  

veedeevadeevoodee: [300x420 from http://www.toonpool.com/user/997/files/obama_meet_new_boss_same_old_bo s_308775.jpg image 300x420]


I don't make any apologies about voting for the Bushes, but I always agreed with Daddy about US troops patrolling Bagdad.

Then the unPatriot Act and other crap just seemed to "happen", with the help of the other idiot's.

Now the Boy King stands frozen in the headlights of history, and chokes.

I know, I know, he'll eventually kill more people, he hasn't missed a chance yet. Nobody will complain, because the guy won a Peace prize.
 
2013-08-26 05:03:43 PM  

Joe Blowme: PunGent: Joe Blowme: PunGent: Joe Blowme: PunGent: freak7: Attacking Syria is okay because Obama is President, had Bush done it, Democrats would be losing their farking minds.  he'd quit halfway to Aleppo in order to invade Jordan, which was nearby, and had some brown guys in it who said something mean to his daddy once.

FTFY.

/Agrees we should stay out of Syria, actually.

right, trying to assassinate a POTUS is just saying something mean. revisionist history, this is how it works?

NATO didn't believe that crap, and neither do I.

You should totally get that into Wikipedia though...they seem to have not believed it either :)

wiki? The site that even HS wont accept for citation?


U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill BushBy David Von Drehle and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, June 27, 1993; Page A01

U.S. Navy ships launched 23 Tomahawk missiles against the headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service yesterday in what President Clinton said was a "firm and commensurate" response to Iraq's plan to assassinate former president George Bush in mid-April.


Damn that Clinton, i knew he was just another Bush lackey.

Lol...citing CLINTON for veracity now?  I thought you wingnuts were all about his perjury  :)

Make up your minds.

Both ways:  not yours.

Hey, hey, you the one who said an attempted assassination of an ex POTUS was = to  just saying something mean about him. I just pointed out that even Clinton thought it was more than just saying something mean.


If it even happened...got a decent source?

Sucks that NATO thought you guys were full of crap...the occupation might've gone better with someone besides that assclown Rumsfeld in the saddle.
 
2013-08-26 05:44:17 PM  
wtfcontent.com
 
2013-08-26 10:03:38 PM  
Who cares? Bomb that shiat back to the stone age.
 
2013-08-26 11:42:29 PM  
www.cardinalfang.net
 
2013-08-27 12:50:09 AM  
Subby is cute. He thinks we have a president with a spine who walks what he talks.

Cuuuuuuute.
 
2013-08-27 01:43:35 AM  
Let's stick our dick in a hornet's nest!


FarkedOver (favorite: CPUSA)
Imperialism.


Goddamn if that isn't the most fitting thing I've ever seen on Fark.


J. Frank Parnell
After eight years of searching, evidence of genocide against Kosovo's ethnic Albanians has not materialized. The number of ethnic Albanians who died or went missing is anywhere from 90 percent to 99 percent lower than the estimates we were given during the war.

You know what would be useful here? ANY SOURCES WHATSOEVER.


neversubmit
Plausible deniability, make real info look like fake info, so when it gets released it can be easily 'debunked'.

I vote trollin'.
 
2013-08-27 06:30:02 AM  
jtgfug.bay.livefilestore.com
 
2013-08-27 11:40:44 AM  
Apik0r0s - "The Transparent Cabal", so BHO, MISTER Tranparency, is a neo-con?!?  Who knew?
War IS Peace, and welcome to Room 101 if you don't believe.
 
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