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(Huffington Post)   SOPA is back. This is not a repeat from every single month of the last four years   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 67
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2013-08-26 10:48:58 AM

Bloody William: I'm pissed off it's like this, but how will this affect actual enforcement?


Shoot everyone. Arrest everyone.
 
2013-08-26 10:49:28 AM
Eventually it will pass because there is too much money behind it funding politicians campaign accounts.
 
2013-08-26 10:52:56 AM

zvoidx: File sharers and streamers could do whatever they want, but would get charged X amount for each copyrighted work which would later show up on their ISP bill; a digital tollbooth.


In theory a great idea, in practice a clusterfark.  We've already seen youtube's bots mistakenly tag all kinds of things as copyright violations. Even if you improve the accuracy, you're not going to code a bot that understands fair use.

Then there's the fraud issue. I tell your ISP that obscure Albanian film you're streaming is something that I own the copyright on and to please send me some money. How do they verify my claim?

That's before we figure out what the appropriate toll is. What is that Albanian film's royalty rate? If it is based on the number of views or viewers (and that would make sense), if it goes viral, do I go bankrupt?
 
2013-08-26 10:53:36 AM
TL;DR

Will someone please summarize this to one sentence and give me a link where I can be outraged and sign a petition 100 times?
 
2013-08-26 10:53:41 AM
clkeagle:

SOPA makes it a felony to do anything that every 12-year-old with a broadband connection has figured out how to do. And since your government doesn't remotely have enough law enforcement, prosecutors, or judges to go after any of these "offenders," you can just everyone into poverty! That will surely bring you back into competitive business practice.

That's pretty much it, isn't it? Just everyone right into it. lol

Aside from that, SOPA doesn't really have staying power. Congress knows they still don't have enough support, and they're probably doing some of the illegal stuff anyway. But go ahead and beat that dead horse, large commingling of old people who don't know how the Internet works. While you're at it, those Repeal Obamacare rhetorics are getting a little dust on them, might want to get on that horse too.
 
2013-08-26 10:56:08 AM

dognose4: Does the law itself use the term streaming?  There is a client and a server (and potentially intermediary program).  Are all of these on the hit list?  It could make going to any website that streams illegal?


Nope. It's really just moving willful infringement of the public performance right from a misdemeanor to a felony, and would only apply to the server, not the client. You could try to make an argument that the client is liable for contributory infringement, but that hasn't been tested.
 
2013-08-26 11:00:40 AM
I suspect this is aimed at streaming of cable channels. I'm surprised there isn't already a lot of this going on. I've been expecting someone to set up a way for everyone to get these, either a peer to peer streaming system (Napster for tv channels) or one big service offshore with a cheap subscription.

I'd think the peer to peer would be the way to go. Monetize it by making people pay for access to the VPN that keeps the stream from being recognized by your ISP. Maybe the computing overhead or something else doesn't make that practical yet, it's beyond my level of geekery.
 
2013-08-26 11:01:42 AM

MisterRonbo: zvoidx: File sharers and streamers could do whatever they want, but would get charged X amount for each copyrighted work which would later show up on their ISP bill; a digital tollbooth.

In theory a great idea, in practice a clusterfark.  We've already seen youtube's bots mistakenly tag all kinds of things as copyright violations. Even if you improve the accuracy, you're not going to code a bot that understands fair use.

Then there's the fraud issue. I tell your ISP that obscure Albanian film you're streaming is something that I own the copyright on and to please send me some money. How do they verify my claim?

That's before we figure out what the appropriate toll is. What is that Albanian film's royalty rate? If it is based on the number of views or viewers (and that would make sense), if it goes viral, do I go bankrupt?


You have a point.

Perhaps in the future there would be a a trusted, centralized place where all parties involved would have access to the information, with the registered copyright claims and comparisons showing how it was infringed.

Maybe it's just a matter of the technology catching up with the concept.
 
2013-08-26 11:02:36 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Eventually it will pass because there is too much money behind it funding politicians campaign accounts.


The only hope I have is the Internet community's tendancy to be insanely obsessive.

Would be inspiring if SOPA did keep coming up, and the Googles of the world fought it as hard as they did last time, every time, forever.

While I'm at it, I'd also like a pony.
 
2013-08-26 11:05:51 AM

TV's Vinnie: Bloody William: I'm pissed off it's like this, but how will this affect actual enforcement?

Shoot everyone. Arrest everyone.


So.... Oakland?
 
2013-08-26 11:15:11 AM
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One of Colton's most famous quotes..."Imitation is the sincerest [form] of flattery".[


I guess Charlie never heard of YouTube.
 
2013-08-26 11:19:05 AM

ChipNASA: SOPA....


Yum!!! My favorite
 
2013-08-26 11:34:26 AM
WTF mods? Pulled the thread because it's a duplicate of another thread....that's nowhere near the font page anymore?

Seriously, WTF?!
 
2013-08-26 11:37:35 AM

GoodDoctorB: WTF mods? Pulled the thread because it's a duplicate of another thread....that's nowhere near the font page anymore?

Seriously, WTF?!


Yeah, again.... Repeat... from August SEVENTH?! Seriously?

I thought the "fark hearts SOPA" shiat was a joke... Someone towing the line?
 
2013-08-26 12:33:24 PM

GoodDoctorB: I thought the "fark hearts SOPA" shiat was a joke... Someone towing the line?


You must have missed the white out.
 
2013-08-26 01:09:44 PM

Cybernetic: GoodDoctorB: I thought the "fark hearts SOPA" shiat was a joke... Someone towing the line?

You must have missed the white out.


I didn't, merely hyperbole.

Just really, really don't get why we liters can't have this discussion again.

Not sure something is truly a "repeat" nineteen days later. What is the limit on how many times we're allowed by mods to discuss a topic, even if it is linked to the same article? Once a month? A quarter? A year?
 
2013-08-26 07:34:35 PM
(Wrote it elsewhere, applies here too)

Washington, DC (AP) - Today, federal lawmakers, working alongside lobbyists from the RIAA, the MPAA, Sony Music Entertainment and more than a dozen other concerned parties, passed the 2,972 page Business Opportunity protection and Help for Intellectual property-holding Corporations Act, or BOHICA for short.

The law, which contains "controversial" provisions which extend copyright on creative works indefinitely and requires ISPs turn over user information on demand from copyright holders, was the brainchild of Rep.Lamar Smith (R-Texas) and Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), who worked closely with legal representatives of the MPAA and RIAA who assisted in writing the final draft of the bill.  "We believe that the lifeblood of America's position as an economic and technological leader of the free world is dependent on intellectual property rights," said Representative Smith in an interview at his office Wednesday, smiling as he lovingly caressed the briefcase filled with neat stacks of hundred dollar bills to his right on his office desk.  "This truly bipartisan legislation will allow government and law enforcement to work in a synergistic, mutually-supportive fashion with copyright-holding companies to protect the labor of so many hardworking people--the attorneys, the politicians, upper-level management, stockholders, lobbyists, CEOs, and our finest corporate citizens--who together form the strong backbone of this great nation."

When asked if the new law, which among many other things makes it legal for companies to sue customers on evidence as flimsy as their ownership of a computer with an optical drive, essentially grants perpetual ownership of works yet to be created by an author to that author's present employer, makes encryption flatly illegal, paves the way towards the removal of anonymity from all online activities from US internet users, allow for indefinite imprisonment of copyright violators until all fines are paid, and would require ISPs to constantly and aggressively monitor all customers for indications of illegal activity online, had any potential for misuse, Representative Smith said, "No, I don't believe it does."  Then he chuckled quietly while stroking his white cat, Mittens, as thunder pealed in the background.  "In fact, I think it will work precisely as intended." The interview ended as Smith began laughing maniacally.  It was impossible to reach Leahy at his office for comment, as the Senator was off on an all-expenses-paid couple's retreat at Lake Tahoe, Nevada, a gift from Sony.

"This law represents a significant breakthrough in US-Corporate relations," said former senator Chris Dodd, Chairman and CEO of the MPAA.  "We've worked hard for years to improve our aquisition and utilization of our customers' hard-earned dollars and find new and better ways to protect our property from pirates and thieves, such as most of the public.  Whether it's an overpriced, special-FX-heavy-yet-utterly-plotless movie from one of our studios, an insipidly empty, soulless, autotuned ballad from one of the RIAA's 'artists', a classic novel that one of our associate publishers has forever acquired the rights to, or a piece of $295.95 software that one of our customers would like to install on more than one of his household's computers without purchasing separate licenses for them all, at last, we can rest easy, knowing that our brave congresspeople will see to it that our potential profits are protected from those who would deny us every potential cent we feel we are owed.  And when you're buying that same music, or those same books, movies and television shows over...and over..and over..and over again, to enjoy it anew in formats yet undreamt of, we hope you too will appreciate the hard work that went into BOHICA.
"And one day soon, you will not only thoroughly enjoy the rape," Dodd finished, his grin widening as the yellow of his reptillian eyes glinted through his human contacts.  "You will come to beg us for it."

Lobbyists and attorneys representing Google, Facebook and Youtube are expected to appeal on the grounds that the hardware and software upgrades required for constant, round-the-clock monitoring of all internet users while online would require many hundreds of billions of dollars, possibly in excess of America's GDP.  A similar bill which would have allowed copyright holders to require their customers to install cameras and microphones in their bedrooms, living rooms and bathrooms for periodic monitoring at their own expense, was recently vetoed by President Obama, but is expected to be re-introduced early next year.
 
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