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(Huffington Post)   SOPA is back. This is not a repeat from every single month of the last four years   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 67
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2013-08-26 09:48:01 AM
I knew the powers that be wouldn't give up SOPA.  The internet had that big victory when everybody came together to protest it, but the money that wants it is patient and will keep coming.
 
2013-08-26 09:57:49 AM
SOPA is back.

This is the story of two parties. Republican and Democratic. These are the conservatives, and these are the liberals, and this is SOPA.

/Confused?  You won't be after this episode of SOPA.
 
2013-08-26 10:00:18 AM
Monied interests will always try to destroy America.  That's why it was a much nicer country back when the top tax rate was over 70%.
 
2013-08-26 10:07:04 AM
As a computer professional, I find it hilarious that people think it's possible to stop piracy.  If you can view/listen to/play it, you can copy it.  That's just how data works.
 
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2013-08-26 10:13:44 AM

nekom: As a computer professional, I find it hilarious that people think it's possible to stop piracy.  If you can view/listen to/play it, you can copy it.  That's just how data works.


just another reason to fill the prisons.
 
2013-08-26 10:15:33 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Monied interests will always try to destroy America.  That's why it was a much nicer country back when the top tax rate was over 70%.


If it gets much worse, we'll just have to take the top 10% of their body-weight.   That's called the French Tax.
 
2013-08-26 10:16:34 AM
Oh geez. The Internet Policy Task Force, stated that under current law, copying a copyrighted work from me to you can be a felony, while steaming the same work from me to you can't be a felony. The IPTF proposed that the laws to updated so that streaming=copying.
 
2013-08-26 10:16:46 AM
Yeah it's not going away. They're going to get that through one way or another.
 
2013-08-26 10:18:38 AM

ikanreed: Marcus Aurelius: Monied interests will always try to destroy America.  That's why it was a much nicer country back when the top tax rate was over 70%.

If it gets much worse, we'll just have to take the top 10% of their body-weight.   That's called the French Tax.


Off with her... Leg up to the calf?
 
2013-08-26 10:19:43 AM

182: nekom: As a computer professional, I find it hilarious that people think it's possible to stop piracy.  If you can view/listen to/play it, you can copy it.  That's just how data works.

just another reason to fill the prisons.


For-profit businesses do not do well in a shrinking market, so it only makes good economic sense to create as many new potential felons as possible.  The privileged kids will have daddy pay the right lawyers in any case, meaning this is a "criminal justice" win-win all the way around.
 
2013-08-26 10:19:43 AM

MindStalker: Oh geez. The Internet Policy Task Force, stated that under current law, copying a copyrighted work from me to you can be a felony, while steaming the same work from me to you can't be a felony. The IPTF proposed that the laws to updated so that streaming=copying.


This and we really can't afford another Beiber in this world
 
2013-08-26 10:19:43 AM
This is SOPA king ridiculous.
 
2013-08-26 10:20:14 AM
My conscience has come to the following conclusion:  If I ever run into a musician (or actor/director, etc... I guess) who is the "victim" of my illegal streaming, I will hand him or her $20 and say "thanks" for the valued entertainment.
I suppose if I find that you're a sound technician or cameraman I can buy you a beer or a zagnut or something.
 
2013-08-26 10:20:19 AM
SOPA....

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-26 10:21:17 AM
Al Franken owes the entertainment industry big. He will make sure SOPA passes.
 
2013-08-26 10:21:17 AM
oh boy, here we go again

/so many bought out politicians, so many times they'll try this shiat again
 
2013-08-26 10:21:38 AM
Fire the IPTF. While we're at it, disband DHS and scale down all the other bloated overreaching agencys and put the USPS to sleep. Put all that money into finding /creating productive jobs for those people, and watch approval ratings skyrocket.

You can send me a check upon reelection Barack.
 
2013-08-26 10:21:54 AM
the SO-PA's back, and you're gonna be in trouble..
hey now, hey now the SO-PA's back
 
2013-08-26 10:21:57 AM
I'm pissed off it's like this, but how will this affect actual enforcement?
 
2013-08-26 10:22:21 AM
President Obama has made it clear that you all do not matter.
 
2013-08-26 10:22:25 AM

182: nekom: As a computer professional, I find it hilarious that people think it's possible to stop piracy.  If you can view/listen to/play it, you can copy it.  That's just how data works.

just another reason to fill the prisons.


Nah, prisons are just for the poor, and brown skinned people.  This is so the gov't can impose higher taxes on the ISP's, who in turn raise your rates and slow down traffic, in the interest of "National Security".  It's much more profitable that way.
 
2013-08-26 10:22:53 AM
Good grief, this is ridiculous.  The public has made it abundantly clear that they do not agree with this legislation, but they keep throwing it up against the wall hoping that the outrage will eventually fade.

Hopefully the EFF gives 'em  hell and starts rallying support to fight this immediately.
 
2013-08-26 10:23:49 AM
Quickly! Mobilize the pale and stinky Internet hordes! Nothing shall stop the flow of cat pictures and Gabe Newell erotic bondage literature.
 
2013-08-26 10:24:03 AM
Don't like the laws? Delete all your online accounts and don't get online again.

The next thing you know, not having an online account will be a felony.

I weep for my children's future.
 
2013-08-26 10:24:28 AM
Somali pirates have just boarded your server and are sqeezing your backbone.

clipsandcomment.com
 
2013-08-26 10:25:40 AM
All of the protests against this should use Aaron Swartz's picture as a reminder of what he died for. I guess, now that they got him out of the way they're just going to continue on trying to push this tripe through again
 
2013-08-26 10:28:16 AM
Haven't kept up on technology?
Can't compete in the modern entertainment world?
Don't have a clue how to get content into consumers' hands without going through Wal-Mart?
Audiences ignoring your reused and recycled crap and turning to other sources of entertainment?

No problem!

Introducing SOPA!

SOPA makes it a felony to do anything that every 12-year-old with a broadband connection has figured out how to do. And since your government doesn't remotely have enough law enforcement, prosecutors, or judges to go after any of these "offenders," you can just everyone into poverty! That will surely bring you back into competitive business practice.

/we should make a mock-commercial out of this. And post it all over YouTube, Dailymotion, and anywhere else we can find.
//Netflix might actually help us produce it
 
2013-08-26 10:29:28 AM
Time to recirculate this, I guess.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-26 10:29:49 AM
So - let me get this straight -

SOPA and PIPA and whatever this bill is ... seek to give law enforcement the authority to block / alter DNS tables on Servers located in the US ?

Is that right?
 
2013-08-26 10:30:17 AM
Step 1: Open the "Green paper" using the link in TFA
Step 2: Scroll to page 115
Step 3: RAAAAAAAGE
 
2013-08-26 10:31:10 AM
Does the law itself use the term streaming?  There is a client and a server (and potentially intermediary program).  Are all of these on the hit list?  It could make going to any website that streams illegal?
 
2013-08-26 10:31:36 AM
Hmmm.... You tube uploads? No one seems to get money from suing the tube. Plus anyone can download their streaming content as it is.

I don't get it... illegal downloads are where it all happens- not illegal streaming.
 
2013-08-26 10:31:41 AM
Does this one have language making VPNs illegal? I give it 3 years before they try to pass that one.
 
2013-08-26 10:31:41 AM
It is slot machine lawmaking.  Keep putting in coins (bills) and pulling the level (voting) until you get the result that you want.
 
2013-08-26 10:33:38 AM
While I agree the law is bad, I also really farking hate nerds. So I am torn.
 
2013-08-26 10:34:26 AM
 
2013-08-26 10:34:30 AM

rubi_con_man: So - let me get this straight -

SOPA and PIPA and whatever this bill is ... seek to give law enforcement the authority to block / alter DNS tables on Servers located in the US ?

Is that right?


Actually, on page 74 (of the PDF, numbered page 64 of the document) it seems to suggest the DNS hijacking provision is still dead in the water.
 
2013-08-26 10:35:24 AM

EvilEgg: I knew the powers that be wouldn't give up SOPA


No they won't.  It is just like the votes for 'Casino Gambling' in our area (and others have said it happened in their areas too).  The casino's got the issue on the ballot and it was voted down.  They put it on the ballot again and it gets voted down again.  After 5 or 6 times the issue finally passed and once passed it is impossible to reverse.  SOPA will come up again and again.  It will pass at some point and once it does it can never be reversed.
 
2013-08-26 10:35:50 AM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: While I agree the law is bad, I also really farking hate nerds. So I am torn.


Ur doin it wrong.

/neeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrds!
 
2013-08-26 10:38:02 AM
There's apparently a system already in place on YouTube where either bots or the copyright holder themselves recognize it as their work and can claim a copyright on their work posted by someone else. The videos are typically kept up as the owners get a share of ad revenue and a link to purchase the work is displayed on the page.

Since there already is the ability to recognize copyrighted material and automatic means will only get better with time - why not monetize the process?

File sharers and streamers could do whatever they want, but would get charged X amount for each copyrighted work which would later show up on their ISP bill; a digital tollbooth. It may not catch every single instance, but perhaps a majority of it.

There would still be the issue of what services such as Amazon and iTunes would have to offer versus, for example, file sharing - perhaps file sharing being much more expensive, but legal.
 
2013-08-26 10:38:32 AM

Carn: Obama's Reptiloid Master: While I agree the law is bad, I also really farking hate nerds. So I am torn.

Ur doin it wrong.

/neeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrds!


Fun ORM fact: I am Ogre.
 
2013-08-26 10:39:12 AM

rubi_con_man: So - let me get this straight -

SOPA and PIPA and whatever this bill is ... seek to give law enforcement the authority to block / alter DNS tables on Servers located in the US ?

Is that right?


That was one of the truly stupid parts, yes.  The bills gave power to copyright holders to ask that ISP's block certain DNS names (suspected of hosting pirated material) from resolving and return a "parked" page.

/Stupid as in "I have no concept of the Law of Unintended Consequences or how the Internet Works" Stupid.
 
2013-08-26 10:40:02 AM
I feel freer already!
 
2013-08-26 10:40:32 AM
upload.wikimedia.org www.davidcosgrove.com 

What is it with congress and doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? Are they really that insane?

There's a pretty well organized group of people including the EFF, ACLU , and EPIC. Not that I suggest becoming complacent, we need to be heard every time this tomfoolery happens.

Or is it a run to get legislation passed before the next election cycle happens?
 
2013-08-26 10:42:18 AM

abfalter: It is slot machine lawmaking.  Keep putting in coins (bills) and pulling the level (voting) until you get the result that you want.


Surprised they didn't do the old rename/rebrand trick and call it the "American Freedom and Eagle Tears Act", or some such shiat.
 
2013-08-26 10:44:00 AM

The Irresponsible Captain: Or is it a run to get legislation passed before the next election cycle happens?


Why would they care about that? Most of the people on the internet couldn't possibly care less about this and won't alter their votes if it passes and, politically, this is fairly popular on both sides of the aisle. Hell, one of the people who will be lobbying hardest for it is a former democratic senator.

The only thing that's still bipartisan in D.C. is legalized bribery (thanks Supreme Court!) and the interests in this are more than happy to spray cash at both parties. Don't expect it to matter which party is sitting in those seats when or if it comes up for a vote.
 
2013-08-26 10:45:55 AM
fark you, autoplay

They keep trying because they know once something is voted for it'll never go away. The constitution should be amended to require a 2/3 majority for all bills to pass and all bills must sunset after 2 years.
 
2013-08-26 10:45:56 AM
Well sure they can't try to repeal Obama care everyday.
 
2013-08-26 10:46:21 AM
Media bigshots really, REALLY hate it when they don't have all your money. Every day. Forever.
 
2013-08-26 10:47:19 AM

GoodDoctorB: Surprised they didn't do the old rename/rebrand trick and call it the "American Freedom and Eagle Tears Act", or some such shiat.


America's Sensible Streaming For Undeniably Cute Kids act

/ it's for the children!
// cute ones with wide eyes!
 
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