Prophet of Loss: Its not the guns that are the problem; its the idiots holding them. For every "responsible" gun owner, there are a dozen that use easy access to the weapons to act anti-socially.
gja: LoneWolf343: Alonjar: This wasn't "random". For anybody not familiar with life on the corner in a shiatty neighborhood at 2:15 am, it happened like this: Tough Guy Victim is walking down the street, purposely bumps his shoulder into group of guys who expect pedestrian to walk around them, because they're a big bad gang. Very much like 2 immature high school students playing chicken in the hallway to establish dominance. Guy who got bumped says something about not liking it, Tough Guy Victim played the 'fark You what is your skinny little ass go to do about it?' card. Turns out skinny guy isn't backing down and isn't getting his ass whipped either, so he pulls out a gun and fires.Just like when you hear about somebody getting shot over a piece of chicken. The food had nothing to do with it, it's a fight over respect.Prophet of Loss:Gun crime is nearly unheard of in most industrialized nations. Why is the US different?Is this a real question? Because if it is, you're farking retarded. Hurr hurr how come countries without access to guns have less gun crime? Really?Why do people always feel the need to compare "gun crimes" between an armed and unarmed society, rather than simply comparing violent crime rates? Wouldn't that be a better metric to determine safety? Oohhh because those stats are harder to manipulate in order to fulfill your agenda. Gotcha.Blame the victim, not the gun.Also, out of 36 countries, the US has the third highest intentional homicide rate, beaten only by Estonia and Mexico.That stat is ONLY for "Intentional homicide". Way to cherry pick the stats.Let's try "Violent crime". Linky here.
HindiDiscoMonster: I always thought Somalia would rank higher, but I guess those guns keep people in line there...
WraithSama: Where does this sound familiar from? Oh, right.[260x260 from http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/fobbyfobb408/01po1.gif image 260x260]/Love the Boondocks.
Prophet of Loss: bullshiat. No one know how many guns are actually in the US. Legal sales, etc. don't give nearly complete picture. Its like estimating the amount of marijuana users based on purchases at legal dispensaries.
Prophet of Loss: NRA propaganda
Prophet of Loss: Gun crime is nearly unheard of in most industrialized nations. Why is the US different?
Prophet of Loss: Again, we are talking about criminals, not your hunting buddies. With every 2 bit thug carrying a gun these days, do you really think your numbers are anything more than NRA propaganda?
Fubini: Prophet of Loss: Where are you getting your numbers? Registered guns? Sales? Criminals don't register their guns and pay cash.Why don't you do a modicum of research yourself? 300,000,000 is a widely accepted estimate that various people have arrived at by various methods, and it does include illicit guns.Among other things, an estimate is necessary because:1) Sales numbers are not generally publicly available2) Very few types of guns need to be registered in the USYou can arrive at that estimate by various ways, such as direct estimation via manufacture and loss and by survey sampling. I don't know the confidence interval or error bars on the 300,000,000 number, but if you do a little reading you see 270,000,000 as a low estimate and 310,000,000-350,000,000 as a high estimate.The exact numbers don't matter so much as the orders of magnitude: there is approximately one gun for every person in the US, about a third of all people in the US own a gun, and about half of all people in the US have a gun in their household. If you look at the number of recorded gun crimes vs. the number of people with guns, the only conclusion a sane person can arrive at is that the vast majority of guns are not used criminally.
Prophet of Loss: Where are you getting your numbers? Registered guns? Sales? Criminals don't register their guns and pay cash.
rubi_con_man: If that person felt threatened, then in Florida they have the right to shoot you to death.
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