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2013-08-25 10:02:26 PM
25 votes:
Just for context, this site (NaturalNews.com), is also the heart of the anti-fluoride, anti-vaccination, and anti-GMO foods movements.

Fark Administrator - you know who you are. You ought to be ashamed of yourself at supporting these kooks by even giving them the credibility of showing up on the main page.
2013-08-25 10:44:30 PM
12 votes:
Wait until subby finds out what cheese and beer are.
2013-08-25 11:17:27 PM
10 votes:
harryscheeseandcoldcuts.com
www.randrlife.co.uk

Look at all those disgusting byproducts of bacteria.
2013-08-25 10:26:18 PM
8 votes:
I prefer my bacteria excrement in super hoppy IPA form.
2013-08-25 08:54:07 PM
7 votes:
So?

Pretty much all red food coloring is just crushed beetles

Shellac is an excretion from the Lac beetle that helps them stick to the trees they like to live on. In addition to the wood finish products an edible form of shellac is what makes your apples shine and makes the hard candy shell around many candies like Skittles and such

Plenty of other horrifying things we eat and don't think about, so I'm not afraid of a little aspartame!
2013-08-26 01:13:45 AM
6 votes:

Enigmamf: andynz81: I wouldn't worry about this, but as for the more well known allegations about aspartame...

When my sister got a brain tumour, her oncologists went over diet, lifestyle etc, and had little to say as she was by and large living a perfectly healthy life. They did tell her to avoid aspartame though.

Must be pretty good fearmongering if it has also sucked in oncologists.

/more inclined to side with the oncologists, strangely enough

I don't care who you are, if you can't back up your belief with a review of the medical literature (and I don't mean cherry-picking a single study, I mean evaluating the consensus of standard of care established by relevant specialties), then you're no better than someone babbling about neoplasteons.

It's very difficult to be a commoner in this world, relying on the expertise of others about advise that can have a huge effect on our lives. But in this internet era, and especially with the dawning of the age of Open Access, that doesn't mean you have to take everything your doctor says without question, like some neolithic cowering from the spell of a shaman.


Damn straight.  Here's a short list of people who have doctorates in some way and are also major quacks:

Neal Barnard, MD (Medical adviser to PETA; believes vegan-ism can literally cure diabetes)
Stanislaus Burzynski, MD, PhD (Runs a clinic which purports to cure cancer; has been in Stage 1 clinical trials for 20+ years, and is facing multiple federal investigations).
Deepak Chopra, MD (Known as the "King of Quacks," this guy believes you can use quantum theory to magically change your destiny and life; from his own book, "[You can] use the power of quantum healing to transcend disease and aging.")
Jay Gordon, MD (This is the anti-vax queen's - Jenny McCarthy - pediatrician. He is also anti-vax)
Steven F. Hotze, M.D. (Believes that drugs can't cure disease because "diseases are not caused by a deficiency in pharmaceuticals")
Gary Null, PhD (He promotes megavitamin doses for a healthy living; almost died taking his own product which he still sells)
Memhet Oz, MD (TV show host; he promotes lots of pseudoscience and quackery on his show as if they were legitimately backed by science)
Robert Sears, MD (Anti-vax popularizer, he has written multiple books which spread myths and falsehoods about vaccines)
Andrew Wakefield, MD (This is the guy who made Vaccines-Causes-Autism movement popular worldwide via his fake research and fudged data)
Andrew Weil, MD (Self described as the "guru of alternative medicine," this guy uses his credentials to spread misinformation and lies about science and medicine).
Jordan Weiss, MD (uses "information learned from the 4th dimension" to perform "psychoenergetics" and energy healing in his practice)

I have tons more of these.  There are plenty of people who gain advanced degrees and then use their degrees and prestige to spread lies and misinformation.  Some of them are con men, some are true believers.  All of them disregard everything they have been taught about science and the scientific method in order to spread their lies.
2013-08-25 11:07:09 PM
6 votes:
Honey is bee vomit. Worse yet, meat is dead animals. Who cares?
2013-08-25 09:40:34 PM
6 votes:
This sh*t again?

/I should've known from a site called "natural news"
2013-08-25 10:24:04 PM
5 votes:
What a genetically modified organism might look like...

madamezooble.com
2013-08-25 10:02:59 PM
5 votes:
I can only assume that there are no Type I Diabetes patients who are also anti-GMO idiots. Almost all of those insulin shots for diabetes patients? Yeah, that's all GM-bacteria excrement.

And, wow, is that website ever full of a lot of paranoid craziness! :o
2013-08-26 12:21:37 AM
4 votes:
i28.photobucket.com

Natural News is basically WorldNutDaily for health-conscious people. It promotes conspiracies and utter bullshiat.

Their take on vaccines:
http://www.naturalnews.com/vaccines_get_the_full_story.html

How to "cure" cancer with vitamins and foods
http://www.naturalnews.com/cancer.html

Fark Mike Adams up the arse with a rusty chainsaw. I've defriended people on Fb who kept posting their crap.
2013-08-26 12:37:27 AM
3 votes:
FTFA: So there we have it: An official document that not only reveals the shocking truth behind aspartame production, but also freely admits that it was intended for mass consumption as a sucrose substitute. Therefore, the next time someone claims that your reservations about this sweetener are unfounded, direct them to this patent - the truth behind aspartame is now in plain view.

So aspartame
1. Is made through bacteria cultures like cheese, yogurt, and other food products.
2. Was created to be a sugar substitute marketed to consumers.
3. Since it is a protein, the producer feels it might be more beneficial nutritionally than sugar.

As hard as I am trying, I am having a difficult time generating any outrage over this. Rather than feeling concerned; I am feeling more confused over what exactly is the conspiracy regarding aspartame, and what are the desired end results of the conspirators. The author has failed to explain those two important points.
2013-08-25 11:52:56 PM
3 votes:
"Aspartame is not only sweeter than sucrose, but is preferable as a food to sucrose. While sucrose can provide the body with little more than energy, aspartame is composed of amino acids, the building blocks of body proteins, and like other proteins is broken down by the digestive enzymes in the stomach to its constituent amino acids thus providing nutritive value."

Ok subby, can you explain why I should be horrified by that?
2013-08-25 10:17:53 PM
3 votes:
So is insulin.
2013-08-26 04:59:28 AM
2 votes:
fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net
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2013-08-26 03:27:11 AM
2 votes:

Vlad_the_Inaner: mgshamster: Enigmamf: kind of a counterpoint to people who expect similar-looking molecules to act the same, e.g. the person who assumed chlorine in sucralose would be dangerous because many chlorine-bearing molecules are

I once took a freshmen level college nutrition class where the teacher claimed that exact thing: that sucralose was bad because of chlorine.  She showed the molecule, and pointed at the chlorine atom while making a scrunched up face and saying, "And you all know what chorline does, right?"  I wanted to ask her about table salt at that moment, (sodium chloride, NaCl), but I never did.

/This was at a community college

Ionic compound.   You can piss it out.

/Can still be pretty nasty though.  Ask a slug.


Well, yeah. :)

I was a freshman back then. I didn't have the knowledge to smack her down, but even then I realized it was hypocritical to state that chlorine is bad because it's *chlorine* while ignoring table salt.  When it comes to chloride, though, we are capable of handling more of that than we can sodium ions.  We actually use quite a bit of chloride in our systems (in fact, our nervous system is dependent on it, chloride helps regulate the charge for sending electrical signals down neurons, which is the basis for every muscle movement, every thought, and more).
 /I'm a toxicologist. :)
2013-08-26 12:51:03 AM
2 votes:

FrancoFile: So is insulin.


THIS TIMES ONE MILLION!

I've never seen such a fundamentally flawed piece of garbage. It's not feces. Inserts to bacterial plasmids are not considered GMO by anyone who understands the process. Whoever wrote this has maybe a fourth-grade understanding of biology.
2013-08-26 12:16:47 AM
2 votes:

Peter von Nostrand: Trocadero: Peter von Nostrand: And the water they make it with had fish drop deuces in. What's your point?

I never drink water, b/c fish fark in it.

Oh great, now I'm gonna have to stick to a strict beer diet


Fun fact: Beer was necessary for civilization. Early big cities had a horrible time getting access to drinkable water, so they drank beer instead. It's one of the reasons people of American Indian descent often don't have a tolerance for alcohol: they never lived in big cities where there was a sewage problem.

Yay beer!
2013-08-26 12:07:02 AM
2 votes:
Is there any food that does NOT have an aesthetically displeasing manufacture process? As has already been pointed out in this thread, water has fish poop and dolphin cum in it, cheese and yogurt are made with bacteria, booze is made from the by-product of fungus eating sugar, and meat is dead animals.

Even "natural" fruits and veggies are subject to these nauseating shenanigans -- somebody's gotta take that produce out of the ground or off of the vine, and chances are it isn't the guy who gets paid enough to afford basic toiletries like hand-washing soap.
2013-08-26 12:06:06 AM
2 votes:
Uuuuhhhhm. Alcohol. How does it work?
2013-08-25 11:55:09 PM
2 votes:

RexTalionis: Just for context, this site (NaturalNews.com), is also the heart of the anti-fluoride, anti-vaccination, and anti-GMO foods movements.

Fark Administrator - you know who you are. You ought to be ashamed of yourself at supporting these kooks by even giving them the credibility of showing up on the main page.


The Fark mods got a lot of explaining to do lately, IMHO. But yes, this jumps to the top of the list.
2013-08-25 11:54:39 PM
2 votes:
I prefer my bacteria excrement in super hoppy IPA form.

Came here to say this.  Except for the super hoppy part - not a huge fan of overhopped beers.
2013-08-25 11:54:15 PM
2 votes:

RexTalionis: [harryscheeseandcoldcuts.com image 720x480]
[www.randrlife.co.uk image 400x300]

Look at all those disgusting byproducts of bacteria.


Yum. So much this. Bacteria are our friends.

But I still pass on the aspartame.

/The aftertaste is just so wrong.
2013-08-25 11:54:13 PM
2 votes:
Alchohol is yeast poop, and the bubbles in your beer are their burps suspended in liquid.
2013-08-25 11:50:31 PM
2 votes:
and booze is shiat/piss from yeast munching on sugar.

and?
2013-08-25 10:45:49 PM
2 votes:

Cake Hunter: I prefer my bacteria excrement in super hoppy IPA form.


Your dubious taste in beers aside, it's yeast not bacteria. If your beer had bacteria in it, it would also make even you gag.
2013-08-26 02:41:37 PM
1 votes:

knobmaker: mgshamster: Andrew Weil, MD (Self described as the "guru of alternative medicine," this guy uses his credentials to spread misinformation and lies about science and medicine).

Anyone who thinks Weil is a quack is unable to form an opinion without being spoonfed the ingredients for that opinion.  Like the moron who calls his blog quackwatch.

Hey, as long as you trust Donald Rumsfeld to make the right decision, you don't need to worry about aspartame.


Love it! Instead of using facts and evidence, morons (or potential trolls) go straight to the ad hominems. Ha! Never fails, does it?

For our other readers, let me respond:

If Weil was legitimate and honestly cared about finding the truth rather than peddling lies, he would espouse the scientific method and research in order to show what was safe and effective (rather than criticising it). He would not espouse the philosophy of "I know it works because I believe it, and research will later prove that it is safe and effective, like we already believe now" BS that he peddles.

Anyways, I can be as trolley as knobmaker, here: anyone who thinks weil (or any of the alt med stuff) is legitimate is a moron who cannot evaluate evidence, or even think for themselves; they must be spoon fed information because they cannot determine reality from fantasy.

Look people, here's how it works in reality:

We have only a few options for any sort of treatment (preventative or otherwise).

1) Safe and effective
2) Unsafe and effective
3) Safe and ineffective
4) Unsafe and ineffective
5) Undetermined

Traditional medicine (aka "Western Medicine) uses 1 and 2 only. #2 is used only when the benefits outweigh the risks, such as surgery (deliberately cutting and harming someone in order to cure them) or chemotherapy.

Alternative medicine folk usually espouse that because #2 exists, all of "western" medicine is bad, and therefore we must only use 3-5 (or in the case of Dr. Weil - "integrate" 1 and 2 with 3-5). #5 is a particular favorite for alt med folk, because they can make up whatever they want and use anecdotes as evidence, and then claim that science will eventually catch up (while at the same time they bash science for #1 and #2).

Can anecdotes be used as evidence? Yes, but barely. It's one of the worst forms of evidence out there, and should only be used as a jumping point for real research. But alt med folk typically don't want to do research (or the research they do perform is typically poor in quality and analysis), because if they do it might contradict their pet theory.

That's the issue I have with Dr. Weil: He wants to "integrate" legitimate research and scientific evidence (#1 and #2) with poor research, anecdotes as "proof," and flat out made up BS like homeopathy. That's not what a legitimate scientist (or anyone who wants to discover fact from fiction) does. He's a con man and a liar, but he performs his cons subtlety by claiming that he just wants to "integrate" the bad with the good. Weasel words from a weasley man.
2013-08-26 10:00:42 AM
1 votes:

red5ish: [501x402 from http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6109/pc5l.jpg image 501x402]


Whoever that woman is, she is the most breathlessly fear mongering lying ratings-whore on TV. Someone always has Faux on the TV in the break room at work. Just listening to her is worse for your health than aspartame is.
2013-08-26 09:33:46 AM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: I would LOVE it if someone made a cola sweetened with Stevia. It's a hell of a lot better tasting than Aspartame or Sucralose (or Saccharine, which I hated). What TRULY sucks is that Coca-Cola actually markets a Stevia product (Truvia), which is a sweetener. They said they'd market beverages sweetened with their Truvia, but I have yet to see Coca-Cola sweetened with it.


 www.zevia.com
2013-08-26 08:13:20 AM
1 votes:

browser_snake: So who is crazier, anti-GMO people, or Christian Scientists?


Since GMO crops have already had unforeseen negative side effects, the Christian Scientists.
2013-08-26 06:11:38 AM
1 votes:

Lusebagage: lewismarktwo: Do you have any idea how many field mice and rabbits are killed harvesting grain?

I'm glad you asked, I personally don't know, but I'm sure that thousands are probably killed everyday.  Being aware of that, I'm a member of a local, all organic, pesticide free CSA (community supported agriculture), so, there is something you can do if you are concerned about the suffering field mice!  however, thats not your point. Your argument is that because a rabbit is killed, I'm not perfect, and therefore, you can do whatever you want!  its whats commonly known as "Tu quoqu debate fallacy" or the "look who's talking" argument.  I'm not perfect, I admit, I've stepped on bugs, I have to drive a car sometimes.  The difference is, I've dedicated my life to non-violence despite what you or anyone else does, and don't look towards other peoples behavior to justify my own actions.  Here is a fun little video that will explain it for you, Please click me!


Doesn't matter, by being part of society at large in anyway you benefit directly from the suffering of not only animals but also less advantageous humans.  Using the internet for example:  you're killing the earth by using electricity.  I'm sure you'll claim to run off of solar energy and rainbow farts but even then you must be connected to the internet to communicate with me and are therefore contributing to pain of millions.

Your only option is to buy land in the middle of nowhere and start subsistence living.  That or kill yourself.

As for your fancy Latin fallacy, it doesn't quite fit.  I'm not pointing out that you aren't perfect (no one is perfect, pointing that out is futile), I'm pointing out that the game is rigged.  You can't not benefit from the pain of living beings.  It is not possible.  So you might as well enjoy a steak.
2013-08-26 05:18:24 AM
1 votes:

multipaulinator: *facepalm* Let's see. Chickens only lay eggs that have been fertilized. Menstruation only occurs at the end of a menstrual period where the egg didn't get fertilized. So....... try again......??


Nope, chickens lay eggs whether they've been fertilized or not.  99.999% of the eggs you see in the store are unfertilized.  Well, there should probably be a few more 9's in there, even with the organic free-range chickens.

We know the term isn't all that accurate, but we like trying to gross people out, so we make it fit.
2013-08-26 04:05:28 AM
1 votes:

Vlad_the_Inaner: mgshamster: We actually use quite a bit of chloride in our systems (in fact, our nervous system is dependent on it, chloride helps regulate the charge for sending electrical signals down neurons, which is the basis for every muscle movement, every thought, and more).

Not to mention stomachs filled with HCL


I did an article for a physician's magazine a good 10 years ago; the gist being the frustration when a patient comes in with a few e-mails that got forwarded and they wanted ANSWERS. I talked with one such patient who was horrified to hear that aspartame creates formaldehyde and formalin in the digestive system.

I said yes, it's true: Aspartame creates formaldehyde and formalin in the digestive tract -- Because both compounds are naturally occuring by-products. If fact, if you eat a fresh banana you will produce far more formalin and formaldehyde than you will with a diet soda.
2013-08-26 03:46:28 AM
1 votes:

mgshamster: We actually use quite a bit of chloride in our systems (in fact, our nervous system is dependent on it, chloride helps regulate the charge for sending electrical signals down neurons, which is the basis for every muscle movement, every thought, and more).


Not to mention stomachs filled with HCL
2013-08-26 03:14:09 AM
1 votes:

mgshamster: Enigmamf: kind of a counterpoint to people who expect similar-looking molecules to act the same, e.g. the person who assumed chlorine in sucralose would be dangerous because many chlorine-bearing molecules are

I once took a freshmen level college nutrition class where the teacher claimed that exact thing: that sucralose was bad because of chlorine.  She showed the molecule, and pointed at the chlorine atom while making a scrunched up face and saying, "And you all know what chorline does, right?"  I wanted to ask her about table salt at that moment, (sodium chloride, NaCl), but I never did.

/This was at a community college


Ionic compound.   You can piss it out.

/Can still be pretty nasty though.  Ask a slug.
2013-08-26 03:08:57 AM
1 votes:

Vlad_the_Inaner: My worry about sucralose is that it is a covalently bonded chlorinated hydrocarbon. So many of those are toxic. And since it doesn't have a laxative effect, like for instance some sugar alcohols, it is absorbed by the gut. So where the heck does that covalent chlorine go? Doesn't stop me from using a packet rarely at a restaurant to sweeten a coffee when I don't have any stevia with me, but I try to stick to the stevia


It goes right out in your urine.  The majority of sucralose isn't digested; it just passes through.  It's irrelevant, anyways; the amount you consume is extremely small, well below the LOEL (lowest observable effect level) in a dose-response curve.  You have to consume more than 30 packets per day before you got close to the LOEL.
2013-08-26 03:01:41 AM
1 votes:

ScreamingHangover: mgshamster: Ha! No worries! I figured you were either just missing it or you were being sarcastic in some way. Also, I figured others might be curious as well....

...Remember, the pka is the number that has 50/50 H/no H when the pH is at that number.

Just wanted to say: thanks for taking the time to type this out.
Posts like this are the reason I love Fark.


You're Welcome. :)

Threads like these don't come around too often (and even then, I don't always catch them), but it's the one of the few topics that I can speak with expertise.
2013-08-26 03:00:13 AM
1 votes:

Enigmamf: kind of a counterpoint to people who expect similar-looking molecules to act the same, e.g. the person who assumed chlorine in sucralose would be dangerous because many chlorine-bearing molecules are


I once took a freshmen level college nutrition class where the teacher claimed that exact thing: that sucralose was bad because of chlorine.  She showed the molecule, and pointed at the chlorine atom while making a scrunched up face and saying, "And you all know what chorline does, right?"  I wanted to ask her about table salt at that moment, (sodium chloride, NaCl), but I never did.

/This was at a community college
2013-08-26 02:57:55 AM
1 votes:

jshine: So is "human" insulin (the stuff diabetics inject) -- among many, many other things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin#Synthesis_2


Thank you for pointing that out.

/diabetic
2013-08-26 02:34:48 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: scubamage: Alchohol is yeast poop, and the bubbles in your beer are their

burps FARTS piss suspended in liquid.

FTFY.


FTFY.

This article's author thinks he's smart enough to qualify for a job writing articles for a nutritional news site and, yet, he doesn't even know that unicellular organisms can't poop. Poop is undigested foodstuffs that the body couldn't or didn't get the chance to harvest nutrients from. Piss is the waste that came from metabolizing that nutrition inside individual cells which can only absorb already broken down molecules. It's the smoke from your body's fire. Poop is the stuff you couldn't use. Human urine also contains CO2. It's just gets knocked out the moment our piss hits the water -- or urinal wall or tree or pretty much any wall, especially right after the bar closes. Therefore, CO2 coming from the yeast's metabolism would be part of its piss.
2013-08-26 02:02:09 AM
1 votes:

EbolaNYC: Uuuuhhhhm. Alcohol. How does it work?


Yep, pretty much. for any who DON'T know Alcohol is yeast excrement. When you give Saccharomyces cerevisiae sugar, water, and warmth, it will start growing and reproducing merrily, and will excrete CO2 and ethyl alcohol. It is how we make booze. It is called brewer's yeast when used for making beer. It is also how we make bread. Baker's yeast is Saccharomyces cerevisiae as well. Here, the alcohol isn't the interesting excretion, but rather the CO2. It is what leavens the bread and gives it texture.

So if you drink alcohol, then you really aren't in much position to whine about the excrement of single cell organisms.

Turns out, we humans have been pretty good at figuring out and using stuff that is useful to us for a long time, and that includes bacterias, yeasts, and so on.
2013-08-26 01:34:37 AM
1 votes:
A farking Natural News link? Seriously? What's next, Mercola? Weekly World News?
2013-08-26 01:32:36 AM
1 votes:
Diet, low calorie, zero calorie, and every other type with fake "healthy" sweetners...they all taste like ass.  I can't stand them.

Do I really need any other reason to hate them?
2013-08-26 01:14:17 AM
1 votes:
Newsflash: Your organic vegetables are bathed in poop and the water you are drinking was once pissed out of a caveman's penis!
2013-08-26 01:05:45 AM
1 votes:
Insulin is made the same way. Bacteria don't really have feces, no gut.

Of course, this is the same bunch that calls white blood cells "pus cells" if they're in milk. I recall doing the same sort of thing in sixth grade to gross people out.
2013-08-26 01:03:36 AM
1 votes:

Fuggin Bizzy: You can have my Diet Coke when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. It hasn't got any alcohol, so fark off.

There are people out there who think other people shouldn't have any vices at all. I call these people "crazy fundies," regardless of their religious leanings.

/Recovering alcoholic.


Diet Coke is not a vice. It's a punishment. A vile-tasting punishment.
2013-08-26 12:50:43 AM
1 votes:
I have noted that ever since I started drinking Diet Dr Pepper, which is sweetened with Aspartame, that I have been ageing at a rate of one second per second.
2013-08-26 12:48:46 AM
1 votes:

picturescrazy: farkingismybusiness: RexTalionis: [harryscheeseandcoldcuts.com image 720x480]
[www.randrlife.co.uk image 400x300]

Look at all those disgusting byproducts of bacteria.

Why don't you respect my culture?

Very well done!


Anyway I don't care what it's made from. Aspartame makes me feel hungover and taste like ass. That's why I avoid it.


Agreed.  Not everyone has aspartame sensitivity.  But roughly 40% of the people I describe my symptoms to say "yeah, me too".

/anecdotal evidence is anecdotal....
2013-08-26 12:46:18 AM
1 votes:

Enigmamf: andynz81: I wouldn't worry about this, but as for the more well known allegations about aspartame...

When my sister got a brain tumour, her oncologists went over diet, lifestyle etc, and had little to say as she was by and large living a perfectly healthy life. They did tell her to avoid aspartame though.

Must be pretty good fearmongering if it has also sucked in oncologists.

/more inclined to side with the oncologists, strangely enough

I don't care who you are, if you can't back up your belief with a review of the medical literature (and I don't mean cherry-picking a single study, I mean evaluating the consensus of standard of care established by relevant specialties), then you're no better than someone babbling about neoplasteons.

It's very difficult to be a commoner in this world, relying on the expertise of others about advise that can have a huge effect on our lives. But in this internet era, and especially with the dawning of the age of Open Access, that doesn't mean you have to take everything your doctor says without question, like some neolithic cowering from the spell of a shaman.


Thankfully I don't have to delve that deep (I don't have the fear of cancer or the need/want for artificial sweetner). With aspartame, the allegations are sufficient to turn me off given that it has NIL benefit for me in any case. I just felt that the example of the oncologists made quite the anecdote, and as it's not a pressing issue for me I defer to their opinions quite happily, under the assumption that the prevention and curing of cancer being their specialty they generally know best, and of course that they don't have other agendas that might affect their advice.

/When I do go to the doctor, like most other kids that grew up with internet I investigate thoroughly so that I'm as informed as possible.
2013-08-26 12:39:47 AM
1 votes:

heavymetal: FTFA: So there we have it: An official document that not only reveals the shocking truth behind aspartame production, but also freely admits that it was intended for mass consumption as a sucrose substitute. Therefore, the next time someone claims that your reservations about this sweetener are unfounded, direct them to this patent - the truth behind aspartame is now in plain view.

So aspartame
1. Is made through bacteria cultures like cheese, yogurt, and other food products.
2. Was created to be a sugar substitute marketed to consumers.
3. Since it is a protein, the producer feels it might be more beneficial nutritionally than sugar.

As hard as I am trying, I am having a difficult time generating any outrage over this. Rather than feeling concerned; I am feeling more confused over what exactly is the conspiracy regarding aspartame, and what are the desired end results of the conspirators. The author has failed to explain those two important points.


This might help you out: snopes
2013-08-26 12:32:44 AM
1 votes:

andynz81: I wouldn't worry about this, but as for the more well known allegations about aspartame...

When my sister got a brain tumour, her oncologists went over diet, lifestyle etc, and had little to say as she was by and large living a perfectly healthy life. They did tell her to avoid aspartame though.

Must be pretty good fearmongering if it has also sucked in oncologists.

/more inclined to side with the oncologists, strangely enough


I don't care who you are, if you can't back up your belief with a review of the medical literature (and I don't mean cherry-picking a single study, I mean evaluating the consensus of standard of care established by relevant specialties), then you're no better than someone babbling about neoplasteons.

It's very difficult to be a commoner in this world, relying on the expertise of others about advise that can have a huge effect on our lives. But in this internet era, and especially with the dawning of the age of Open Access, that doesn't mean you have to take everything your doctor says without question, like some neolithic cowering from the spell of a shaman.
2013-08-26 12:31:37 AM
1 votes:
Holy fark, this intrigued me so i did some research.  It turns out that they use the excrement of the same critter that makes pussies smelly to make beer!  GASP!  STFU.
2013-08-26 12:25:50 AM
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doglover: Epicanis: You've never had a good Lambic

Lambics are fruit beers.

As for IPA:

Good
Hoppy

pick one.


Lambic doesnt necessarily mean fruity, it just means it was fermented with wild yeast.
2013-08-26 12:20:08 AM
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RexTalionis: Just for context, this site (NaturalNews.com), is also the heart of the anti-fluoride, anti-vaccination, and anti-GMO foods movements.

Fark Administrator - you know who you are. You ought to be ashamed of yourself at supporting these kooks by even giving them the credibility of showing up on the main page.


Let alone an icon of their own.
2013-08-26 12:18:04 AM
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brimed03: RexTalionis: Just for context, this site (NaturalNews.com), is also the heart of the anti-fluoride, anti-vaccination, and anti-GMO foods movements.

Fark Administrator - you know who you are. You ought to be ashamed of yourself at supporting these kooks by even giving them the credibility of showing up on the main page.

The Fark mods got a lot of explaining to do lately, IMHO. But yes, this jumps to the top of the list.


Admins approve links, Mods have got nothing to do with it. Direct your rage where appropriate. http://www.fark.com/farq/faq/#What.27s_the_difference_between_a_moder a tor_and_an_admin.3F
/not a Mod or Admin.
2013-08-26 12:17:01 AM
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Katolu: And water is one hydrogen atom away from being certain death!


It took me a second to realize what you meant - and then I went "OH!"
2013-08-26 12:13:55 AM
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King Something: Is there any food that does NOT have an aesthetically displeasing manufacture process? As has already been pointed out in this thread, water has fish poop and dolphin cum in it, cheese and yogurt are made with bacteria, booze is made from the by-product of fungus eating sugar, and meat is dead animals.


It also has human shiat, puke, piss and whatever else gets flushed down the toilet/sink in it. Or do you think your household waste water goes to some magical holding tank, never to be seen again?
2013-08-26 12:13:09 AM
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doglover: Epicanis: You've never had a good Lambic

Lambics are fruit beers.

As for IPA:

Good
Hoppy

pick one.


Hopefuly the current trend of "How farking hoppy can we make this?" will end soon.
2013-08-26 12:05:31 AM
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picturescrazy: Anyway I don't care what it's made from. Aspartame makes me feel hungover and taste like ass. That's why I avoid it.


Which, along with the headaches mentioned previously, is a valid reason to avoid it. Just like people who have an intolerance to gluten or lactose have valid reasons to avoid those products... they usually don't try and get the rest of society to do so as well because of their issues with it like these nutters.
2013-08-26 12:05:17 AM
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Submitter, what are your feelings on oral sex?
2013-08-26 12:04:31 AM
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So is "human" insulin (the stuff diabetics inject) -- among many, many other things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin#Synthesis_2
2013-08-26 12:04:20 AM
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god help then when they learn about yeast
2013-08-25 11:57:21 PM
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scubamage: Alchohol is yeast poop, and the bubbles in your beer are their burps FARTS suspended in liquid.


FTFY.

/Pass the pitcher
2013-08-25 11:55:15 PM
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Castoreum is a horrific additive in some artificial raspberry and strawberry flavors, perfumes, and medicines. It comes from a beaver's scent glands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castoreum
2013-08-25 11:53:53 PM
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Majick Thise: Plenty of other horrifying things we eat


What's the difference between boogers and broccoli?
Kids won't eat broccoli.
2013-08-25 11:53:41 PM
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I don't really care that it is made from genetically modified bacteria excrement. I avoid aspartame because it gives me splitting headaches.
2013-08-25 11:53:38 PM
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RexTalionis: Just for context, this site (NaturalNews.com), is also the heart of the anti-fluoride, anti-vaccination, and anti-GMO foods movements.

Fark Administrator - you know who you are. You ought to be ashamed of yourself at supporting these kooks by even giving them the credibility of showing up on the main page.


This. Browse some of the other articles on that site if you doubt the kook factor. Bunch of tinfoil-hatted alarmist ninnies.
2013-08-25 11:52:02 PM
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RexTalionis: [harryscheeseandcoldcuts.com image 720x480]
[www.randrlife.co.uk image 400x300]

Look at all those disgusting byproducts of bacteria.


Why don't you respect my culture?
2013-08-25 11:37:34 PM
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And the water they make it with had fish drop deuces in. What's your point?
2013-08-25 10:16:52 PM
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2013-08-25 09:58:30 PM
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But it tastes so good ...

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