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(Natural News)   Need more reasons to shun diet soda? Aspartame is made from genetically modified bacteria excrement   (naturalnews.com) divider line 292
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2013-08-26 05:15:50 AM  

multipaulinator: Let's see. Chickens only lay eggs that have been fertilized. Menstruation only occurs at the end of a menstrual period where the egg didn't get fertilized. So....... try again......??


Okay, I'll try again!  first off, you're wrong right out the gate, unlike humans, chickens don't have a uterus, and expel both fertilized AND unfertilized eggs, they do however only incubate the fertilized eggs., so I guess your partially right. however, Its still the Menstruation cycle, or "period" by definition, look it up, I'm just the messenger.
 
2013-08-26 05:18:24 AM  

multipaulinator: *facepalm* Let's see. Chickens only lay eggs that have been fertilized. Menstruation only occurs at the end of a menstrual period where the egg didn't get fertilized. So....... try again......??


Nope, chickens lay eggs whether they've been fertilized or not.  99.999% of the eggs you see in the store are unfertilized.  Well, there should probably be a few more 9's in there, even with the organic free-range chickens.

We know the term isn't all that accurate, but we like trying to gross people out, so we make it fit.
 
2013-08-26 05:19:26 AM  
I prefer to think of them as chicken abortions.

tasty ones.
 
2013-08-26 05:20:39 AM  

Lusebagage: they do however only incubate the fertilized eggs.,


The chickens or the farmers?  It's my understanding that the chickens will attempt to incubate all their eggs, it's the farmers who don't bother with unfertilized, and they'll 'candle' eggs to attempt to see fetal development in order to weed out unfertilized/non-growing eggs as soon as possible.
 
2013-08-26 05:21:38 AM  

miscreant: picturescrazy: Anyway I don't care what it's made from. Aspartame makes me feel hungover and taste like ass. That's why I avoid it.

Which, along with the headaches mentioned previously, is a valid reason to avoid it. Just like people who have an intolerance to gluten or lactose have valid reasons to avoid those products... they usually don't try and get the rest of society to do so as well because of their issues with it like these nutters.


Yep. I can't eat aspartame (closes my throat up, some kind of allergic reaction), but I don't care if other people do. The screaming fit about how it's produced and what it's made from is just more idiocy from the anti-GMO crowd. The only problem I really have is that they've started adding it to so many things, even stuff that's not labeled "diet". I can't find a usable chewing gum anymore.
 
2013-08-26 05:27:24 AM  

lewismarktwo: How can you rationalize eating plants? They never did anything to you.


Great question.  Unlike ALL sentient beings, plants do not have a brain, spinal cord, nerves, organs, eyes, ears, nose, and so on.   Therefore they cannot feel pain in any way, that is a scientific fact.  Also, they cant run from danger.  The apple tree is designed by nature to have animals eat its apples, therefore propagating apple trees far and wide across the countryside, amazing how nature works huh?    Also, just so you know, if you really are concerned about the plants,  It takes roughly 13 lbs of grain to produce one pound of beef, so by consuming meat you are causing far more destruction to the poor wittle pwants!
 
2013-08-26 05:30:38 AM  

Lusebagage: Also, they cant run from danger.


and we all know that helpless things taste the best.
 
2013-08-26 05:33:46 AM  

Lusebagage: lewismarktwo: How can you rationalize eating plants? They never did anything to you.

Great question.  Unlike ALL sentient beings, plants do not have a brain, spinal cord, nerves, organs, eyes, ears, nose, and so on.   Therefore they cannot feel pain in any way, that is a scientific fact.  Also, they cant run from danger.  The apple tree is designed by nature to have animals eat its apples, therefore propagating apple trees far and wide across the countryside, amazing how nature works huh?    Also, just so you know, if you really are concerned about the plants,  It takes roughly 13 lbs of grain to produce one pound of beef, so by consuming meat you are causing far more destruction to the poor wittle pwants!


Do you have any idea how many field mice and rabbits are killed harvesting grain?
 
2013-08-26 05:51:03 AM  

lewismarktwo: Do you have any idea how many field mice and rabbits are killed harvesting grain?


I'm glad you asked, I personally don't know, but I'm sure that thousands are probably killed everyday.  Being aware of that, I'm a member of a local, all organic, pesticide free CSA (community supported agriculture), so, there is something you can do if you are concerned about the suffering field mice!  however, thats not your point. Your argument is that because a rabbit is killed, I'm not perfect, and therefore, you can do whatever you want!  its whats commonly known as "Tu quoqu debate fallacy" or the "look who's talking" argument.  I'm not perfect, I admit, I've stepped on bugs, I have to drive a car sometimes.  The difference is, I've dedicated my life to non-violence despite what you or anyone else does, and don't look towards other peoples behavior to justify my own actions.  Here is a fun little video that will explain it for you, Please click me!
 
2013-08-26 05:52:57 AM  

Lusebagage: its whats commonly known as "Tu quoqu debate fallacy" or the "look who's talking" argument.


AKA: Pointing out hypocrisy.
 
2013-08-26 06:06:32 AM  

log_jammin: AKA: Pointing out hypocrisy.


Well, since we are pointing out hypocrisy, farm animals consume far more plants than humans do (70% of the produce yield in America goes to factory farmed animals), so if you consume meat, dairy, or eggs, you are much more responsible for the death of field mice and rabbits than and vegan, especially if that vegan buys only local grown produce, like myself. If pointing out my hypocrisy makes you feel better about not caring at all, doesn't that just make you a turd on the tide, a shallow status quo robot programmed in following the patterns of society in an attempt to shelter the fragile ego.
 
2013-08-26 06:11:20 AM  

lewismarktwo: Strangely enough, most fruit juices have zero vitamin C.  Who knew?


LOLWUT?
 
2013-08-26 06:11:38 AM  

Lusebagage: lewismarktwo: Do you have any idea how many field mice and rabbits are killed harvesting grain?

I'm glad you asked, I personally don't know, but I'm sure that thousands are probably killed everyday.  Being aware of that, I'm a member of a local, all organic, pesticide free CSA (community supported agriculture), so, there is something you can do if you are concerned about the suffering field mice!  however, thats not your point. Your argument is that because a rabbit is killed, I'm not perfect, and therefore, you can do whatever you want!  its whats commonly known as "Tu quoqu debate fallacy" or the "look who's talking" argument.  I'm not perfect, I admit, I've stepped on bugs, I have to drive a car sometimes.  The difference is, I've dedicated my life to non-violence despite what you or anyone else does, and don't look towards other peoples behavior to justify my own actions.  Here is a fun little video that will explain it for you, Please click me!


Doesn't matter, by being part of society at large in anyway you benefit directly from the suffering of not only animals but also less advantageous humans.  Using the internet for example:  you're killing the earth by using electricity.  I'm sure you'll claim to run off of solar energy and rainbow farts but even then you must be connected to the internet to communicate with me and are therefore contributing to pain of millions.

Your only option is to buy land in the middle of nowhere and start subsistence living.  That or kill yourself.

As for your fancy Latin fallacy, it doesn't quite fit.  I'm not pointing out that you aren't perfect (no one is perfect, pointing that out is futile), I'm pointing out that the game is rigged.  You can't not benefit from the pain of living beings.  It is not possible.  So you might as well enjoy a steak.
 
2013-08-26 06:12:52 AM  

Lusebagage:  especially if that vegan buys only local grown produce, like myself.


less mice are killed if you buy local? lol!

Lusebagage: If pointing out my hypocrisy makes you feel better about not caring at all


I feel the same way whether I'm pointing out hypocrisy or not.

Lusebagage: doesn't that just make you a turd on the tide, a shallow status quo robot programmed in following the patterns of society in an attempt to shelter the fragile ego.


ad hominem
 
2013-08-26 06:13:16 AM  

MBP2112: lewismarktwo: Strangely enough, most fruit juices have zero vitamin C.  Who knew?

LOLWUT?


Check the label.  Unless you are fresh squeezing it moments before ingesting or it is artificially added it won't have any vitamin C.
 
2013-08-26 06:13:27 AM  

Firethorn: It's my understanding that the chickens will attempt to incubate all their eggs


Great point Fire, some chickens will certinly incubate all their eggs, especially when they become broody, I was using a generalization, there are exceptions to the rule, thanks for pointing that out.
 
2013-08-26 06:23:05 AM  
I always put 100% faith in any website that is advertising colloidal silver as that stuff is near-magical. It's at least a thousand times more effective than floor humping guy at keeping away the bad things.
 
2013-08-26 06:24:36 AM  

Befuddled: I always put 100% faith in any website that is advertising colloidal silver as that stuff is near-magical. It's at least a thousand times more effective than floor humping guy at keeping away the bad things.


isn't that the stuff that makes your skin turn blue?
 
2013-08-26 06:25:32 AM  

log_jammin: ad hominem


No, actually, an example of an ad hominem would be what you did to me, attempting to attack my character, read what I said again, I apologize for the typo's, try reading it again.

"Doesn't that just make you a turd on the tide, a shallow status quo robot programmed in following the patterns of society in an attempt to shelter your fragile ego?"

That's a question, you can answer that question with yes or no if you'd like, I just ask that you be honest with yourself.
 
2013-08-26 06:30:42 AM  

Lusebagage: attempting to attack my character,


I did no such thing.

Lusebagage: That's a question, you can answer that question with yes or no if you'd like, I just ask that you be honest with yourself.


You're right. It wasn't an  ad hominem. It was begging the question.
 
2013-08-26 06:48:26 AM  

lewismarktwo: You can't not benefit from the pain of living beings. It is not possible. So you might as well enjoy a steak


Isn't that similar to saying, "I couldn't help but rape that girl, she was dressed like a slut"? The game is only rigged in your mind, because your self-identity is partially built around the idea that eating meat is necessary for your survival, when in reality, its not. People only do so because society makes it easy and comfortable for them, and it tastes good!  This sort of reasoning is why heart disease is the #1 killer in America.  Its called cognitive dissidence.  I cant "enjoy a steak" because I'm aware of the suffering that animal had to endure.  Watch this video, and tell me you still want a steak:  Beware!
 
2013-08-26 06:53:28 AM  

log_jammin: You're right. It wasn't an ad hominem. It was begging the question.


No, it was not petitio principii, here would be an example of that:

Its apparent you've never taken a debate class, and since you are not very skilled in debating, this conversation is over, you lose.

See the difference?
 
2013-08-26 06:54:53 AM  
So are Buttermilk, cheese, EU natural vanillin, and loads of other foods. Not to mention the fact that there are millions of bacteria shiatting inside your body right now.
 
2013-08-26 06:55:52 AM  

heavymetal: FTFA: So there we have it: An official document that not only reveals the shocking truth behind aspartame production, but also freely admits that it was intended for mass consumption as a sucrose substitute. Therefore, the next time someone claims that your reservations about this sweetener are unfounded, direct them to this patent - the truth behind aspartame is now in plain view.

So aspartame
1. Is made through bacteria cultures like cheese, yogurt, and other food products.
2. Was created to be a sugar substitute marketed to consumers.
3. Since it is a protein, the producer feels it might be more beneficial nutritionally than sugar.

As hard as I am trying, I am having a difficult time generating any outrage over this. Rather than feeling concerned; I am feeling more confused over what exactly is the conspiracy regarding aspartame, and what are the desired end results of the conspirators. The author has failed to explain those two important points.


Using political influence to get regulatory approval, and money.  There...not so hard, was it?

/had this lecture about the FDA's political...flexibility, shall we say?...back in law school.
//To paraphrase P.J. O'Rourke, when regulators determine what can be bought and sold, regulators will be the first things bought and sold.
///If FDA approval really meant something was safe to eat...it would provide a legal defense.  It doesn't.  That should tell you something right there.
 
2013-08-26 06:57:06 AM  

Lusebagage: lewismarktwo: You can't not benefit from the pain of living beings. It is not possible. So you might as well enjoy a steak

Isn't that similar to saying, "I couldn't help but rape that girl, she was dressed like a slut"?


OK, you are obviously a troll/crazy. Good day.
 
2013-08-26 06:58:58 AM  

Lusebagage: log_jammin: You're right. It wasn't an ad hominem. It was begging the question.

No, it was not petitio principii, here would be an example of that:

Its apparent you've never taken a debate class, and since you are not very skilled in debating, this conversation is over, you lose.

See the difference?


*yawn*

anything else?
 
2013-08-26 07:00:02 AM  

multipaulinator: Lusebagage: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Honey is bee vomit. Worse yet, meat is dead animals. Who cares?

Most people don't care, that is, until they get sick. Then they go to the doctor, and he tells them its genetics, and prescribes them medication, which is really just a band-aid for a poor diet.

BTW, The eggs most people eat are the menstrual period of Chicken, enjoy your breakfast.

*facepalm* Let's see. Chickens only lay eggs that have been fertilized. Menstruation only occurs at the end of a menstrual period where the egg didn't get fertilized. So....... try again......??


Umm...my sister's chickens give her plenty of eggs, and they don't have a rooster...not sure you're correct about that one.
 
2013-08-26 07:20:35 AM  
3.) The proteins containing the Asp-Phe segments are 'harvested' (i.e. lab assistants collect the bacteria's feces).

I would care a hell of a lot more if I didn't regularly drink bacteria shiat recreationaly (beer)...   Although the fact that its genetically modified E coli does raise my eyebrows, and I try to avoid diet sodas like the plague anyways along with most artificial sweeteners....
 
2013-08-26 07:22:02 AM  
And let us also not forget the miracles that are Yogurt and Cheese!...
 
2013-08-26 07:23:17 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: ArcadianRefugee: common table contains both a poisonous gas and a substance that explodes when it mixes with water?

That's not a very common table. Check the settings on your 3D printer.


I have high blood pressure; my doctor made me cut out salt.
 
2013-08-26 07:25:38 AM  
So are any of you any "bacteria feces" nutjobs also against embryonic stem cell research?
 
2013-08-26 07:27:40 AM  
IIRC, most insulin on the market today is technically "genetically modified bacteria excrement". And insulin is not unique in that regard.
 
2013-08-26 07:28:40 AM  
ok... fungi shiat... whatever.... I DRINK THE EXCREMENT OF TINY LITTLE ALIVE THINGS either way...
 
2013-08-26 07:38:50 AM  

ReapTheChaos: King Something: Is there any food that does NOT have an aesthetically displeasing manufacture process? As has already been pointed out in this thread, water has fish poop and dolphin cum in it, cheese and yogurt are made with bacteria, booze is made from the by-product of fungus eating sugar, and meat is dead animals.

It also has human shiat, puke, piss and whatever else gets flushed down the toilet/sink in it. Or do you think your household waste water goes to some magical holding tank, never to be seen again?


I for one believe, and will continue to believe untill the day that I die, that the sewer system runs on purell and magic.
 
2013-08-26 07:43:47 AM  
Whoever greenlit this 'article' deserves a paddling. I never thought I'd say this: Worst.Greenlight.Ever.
 
2013-08-26 07:46:09 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Honey is bee vomit. Worse yet, meat is dead animals. Who cares?

I refuse to eat pigs and lamb.  I will eat some humanely raised chickens and grass fed beef that was humanely executed.


WEre they animals? Are they dead? Your feel-good caveats don't change that.
 
2013-08-26 07:47:16 AM  
So who is crazier, anti-GMO people, or Christian Scientists?
 
2013-08-26 08:12:18 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Surely there exists a magical device capable of replicating anything at all? Why do we still use medieval Luddite technologies like how they made cheese 600 years ago????


Really?  REALLY?  you're bringing a 3D printer complaint into an aspartame thread?

Actually...I'm kind of impressed at your dedication.  Well played, sir.
 
2013-08-26 08:13:20 AM  

browser_snake: So who is crazier, anti-GMO people, or Christian Scientists?


Since GMO crops have already had unforeseen negative side effects, the Christian Scientists.
 
2013-08-26 08:14:13 AM  
Natural News?  Seriously?  NOTHING on that site should ever be taken seriously.  Its like the Onion, only they don't do the comedy on purpose.

If they came up with a vaccine against aging, Natural News would figure out how it retroactively causes Autism.
 
2013-08-26 08:37:25 AM  
Came here to point out insulin is made by bacteria. Is satisfied.
 
2013-08-26 08:56:26 AM  
I have issues with artificial sweeteners...there are irrefutable links between them and obesity from multiple research university studies.

BUT...this article is f#cking stupid. Repeatedly referring to bacterial discharge as "feces" comes off as desperate and implies an inability to make a stronger case (e.g., see aforementioned weight gain links).
 
2013-08-26 09:00:28 AM  

Lusebagage: lewismarktwo: Do you have any idea how many field mice and rabbits are killed harvesting grain?

I'm glad you asked, I personally don't know, but I'm sure that thousands are probably killed everyday.  Being aware of that, I'm a member of a local, all organic, pesticide free CSA (community supported agriculture), so, there is something you can do if you are concerned about the suffering field mice!  however, thats not your point. Your argument is that because a rabbit is killed, I'm not perfect, and therefore, you can do whatever you want!  its whats commonly known as "Tu quoqu debate fallacy" or the "look who's talking" argument.  I'm not perfect, I admit, I've stepped on bugs, I have to drive a car sometimes.  The difference is, I've dedicated my life to non-violence despite what you or anyone else does, and don't look towards other peoples behavior to justify my own actions.  Here is a fun little video that will explain it for you, Please click me!


I'm going to order extra meat on my sandwich today in your name.
 
2013-08-26 09:01:29 AM  
www.overthinkingit.com
It's made of poopies!
 
2013-08-26 09:01:46 AM  
For your auditory amusement.  WEIRD AL!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GSgc2yD_jU

BB
 
2013-08-26 09:03:55 AM  

doglover: Cake Hunter: I prefer my bacteria excrement in super hoppy IPA form.

Your dubious taste in beers aside, it's yeast not bacteria. If your beer had bacteria in it, it would also make even you gag.


Half right.  It's yeast, but certain bacteria are desirable depending on the style.  Most commonly, Lacto strains for sours, I believe.
 
2013-08-26 09:11:57 AM  
Also in at least one of the artificial sweeteners people put in coffee and need I remind any of you how many people pee in those pools you swim in. Disgusting things everywhere.
 
2013-08-26 09:25:20 AM  
so is insulin....
 
2013-08-26 09:28:14 AM  
As you read this millions of bacteria are shiatting in your mouth.
 
2013-08-26 09:33:46 AM  

ZeroCorpse: I would LOVE it if someone made a cola sweetened with Stevia. It's a hell of a lot better tasting than Aspartame or Sucralose (or Saccharine, which I hated). What TRULY sucks is that Coca-Cola actually markets a Stevia product (Truvia), which is a sweetener. They said they'd market beverages sweetened with their Truvia, but I have yet to see Coca-Cola sweetened with it.


 www.zevia.com
 
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