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2013-08-26 02:09:59 AM  

Amos Quito: Good point.

Thinking about it, of all the dead people I know, most of them likely ate microwaved popcorn at some time.


///What more proof do you want???


for more terrifying news, think of all the water drinkers you know...
 
2013-08-26 02:20:09 AM  

Enigmamf: mgshamster: Enigmamf: omnibus_necanda_sunt: [320x276 from http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cpGeRlyoAqI/TVh8atZQZfI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Hk_l85G4 5gM/s320/Aspartame_structure.png image 320x276]

It is all the same shiat, people. Atoms are atoms. It doesn't matter where they come from.

That actually looks kinda scary - I'm betting that O- is extremely reactive. What is it?

I'm not sure if you're serious, based on your other posts, but I'll answer anyways.  That's aspartame.  It's just two amino acids (aspartic acid and phenylalanine) put together with an extra methyl ester attached to one end.

The N-C-C=O group is the backbone of the amino acid.  Since there are two amino acids, you should see two N-C-C=O groups in it. Aspartic Acid is on the left hand side of that image, with the extra C-COOH, and phenylalanine is the other with the extra C-6 sided ring.

OK, I feel stupid for not recognizing that, so I have to write up a defense of myself. I think what threw me off is the proton transferred from the carboxyl group to the amine group. I assumed that a) carboxylic acid had a lower pH than it does, and b) your post was ironic and your point was going to be "things that look almost the same can sometimes act completely different" (kind of a counterpoint to people who expect similar-looking molecules to act the same, e.g. the person who assumed chlorine in sucralose would be dangerous because many chlorine-bearing molecules are).

Also, it's been a long time since I took organic chemistry, or any classes where the actual properties of functional groups were relevant beyond knowing they exist and being able to understand similar properties enumerated by others.

So in retrospect, I'm guessing that proton transfers pretty freely between the amine and carboxyl group?


Ha! No worries! I figured you were either just missing it or you were being sarcastic in some way.  Also, I figured others might be curious as well.

In regards to b), that's certainly true.  Small changes to a molecule can give huge changes to its effects.  One of the basics of detoxification (in your liver and guts) is to add an oxygen atom to the molecule (via the P450 enzymes) and then use that oxygen as a handle to attach a larger water soluble group. This makes the toxin more water soluble on the whole, which means it will more likely get excreted in the urine.  This is known as Phase 1 and Phase 2 detoxification.  Of course, since we're changing the molecule up a bit, this also changes the chemistry of the molecule (and in turn, the toxicity).  Usually, it makes it less toxic (hence: detoxification), but sometimes it makes it more toxic (which is known as "activation" in the toxicology field).  One example of this is with organophosphates (a type of pesticide).  The base pesticide is generally safe until it is consumed, which it is activated into the toxic form and kills the pest (or the human in cases of accidental ingestion by a person).

As for the charges on the OH and NH2 (or O- and NH3+), it doesn't really matter where the H comes from, or if it transfers between the two. Most likely, the H will transfer back and forth between OH and H2O, and a different H will transfer back and forth between the NH2 and H2O; but this doesn't really matter. What matters is the pH of the environment.  The OH on that molecule (the one labeled as O- in the image) has a pka around 2, which means that when the pH is under 2, it'll be more in the OH form.  The amine group (the NH3+) has a pka around 10, so it the pH is below 10, it'll more likely have the H on it, making it charged. It has to go above 10 in order for it to lose the H, making it the non-charged NH2.  With a pH of water (about 7), you should expect both to be charged (O- and NH3+).  Remember, the pka is the number that has 50/50 H/no H when the pH is at that number.
 
2013-08-26 02:28:14 AM  

log_jammin: Amos Quito: Good point.

Thinking about it, of all the dead people I know, most of them likely ate microwaved popcorn at some time.


///What more proof do you want???
 my 
for more terrifying news, think of all the water drinkers you know...


My whole family bathed in that shiat for years...emphysema my ass!
 
2013-08-26 02:32:19 AM  
It's why I buy Coke and Pepsi from a nearby Mexican-operated convenience store, because they sell glass-bottled drinks, made with real sugar, out of an ice-filled barrel. Yum.

(Truth be told, however, I've never been a frequent soda consumer, so the taste distinction is, for me, minimal.)
 
2013-08-26 02:34:48 AM  

Amos Quito: scubamage: Alchohol is yeast poop, and the bubbles in your beer are their burps FARTS piss suspended in liquid.

FTFY.


FTFY.

This article's author thinks he's smart enough to qualify for a job writing articles for a nutritional news site and, yet, he doesn't even know that unicellular organisms can't poop. Poop is undigested foodstuffs that the body couldn't or didn't get the chance to harvest nutrients from. Piss is the waste that came from metabolizing that nutrition inside individual cells which can only absorb already broken down molecules. It's the smoke from your body's fire. Poop is the stuff you couldn't use. Human urine also contains CO2. It's just gets knocked out the moment our piss hits the water -- or urinal wall or tree or pretty much any wall, especially right after the bar closes. Therefore, CO2 coming from the yeast's metabolism would be part of its piss.
 
2013-08-26 02:36:03 AM  

mgshamster: Ha! No worries! I figured you were either just missing it or you were being sarcastic in some way. Also, I figured others might be curious as well....

...Remember, the pka is the number that has 50/50 H/no H when the pH is at that number.


Just wanted to say: thanks for taking the time to type this out.
Posts like this are the reason I love Fark.
 
2013-08-26 02:39:16 AM  

multipaulinator: This article's author thinks he's smart enough to qualify for a job writing articles for a nutritional newsc

crackpot conspiracy site

FTFY
 
2013-08-26 02:51:02 AM  

log_jammin: multipaulinator: This article's author thinks he's smart enough to qualify for a job writing articles for a nutritional newsccrackpot conspiracy site

FTFY


I stand corrected. I have a bad habit of being way too nice in giving people the benefits of my doubts.
 
2013-08-26 02:54:57 AM  

HotWingAgenda: There are people that didn't know this? Sucralose is also like one hydrogen atom away from being antifreeze. If you really want to give a chemist an aneurism, go around claiming sucralose is harmful because its compound is similar to poison.


Ethanol is zero atoms away from being antifreeze, like in your windshield washer fluid (although Methyl Alcohol is the commercial go-to).

Ethanol is also useful in treating ethylene glycol antifreeze poisoning.

Its also yeast poop.

My worry about sucralose is that it is a covalently bonded chlorinated hydrocarbon.   So many of those are toxic.  And since it doesn't have a laxative effect, like for instance some sugar alcohols, it is absorbed by the gut.  So where the heck does that covalent chlorine go?  Doesn't stop me from using a packet rarely at a restaurant to sweeten a coffee when I don't have any stevia with me, but I try to stick to the stevia

/then again, so is ethanol is toxic too
 
2013-08-26 02:57:55 AM  

jshine: So is "human" insulin (the stuff diabetics inject) -- among many, many other things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin#Synthesis_2


Thank you for pointing that out.

/diabetic
 
2013-08-26 03:00:13 AM  

Enigmamf: kind of a counterpoint to people who expect similar-looking molecules to act the same, e.g. the person who assumed chlorine in sucralose would be dangerous because many chlorine-bearing molecules are


I once took a freshmen level college nutrition class where the teacher claimed that exact thing: that sucralose was bad because of chlorine.  She showed the molecule, and pointed at the chlorine atom while making a scrunched up face and saying, "And you all know what chorline does, right?"  I wanted to ask her about table salt at that moment, (sodium chloride, NaCl), but I never did.

/This was at a community college
 
2013-08-26 03:01:41 AM  

ScreamingHangover: mgshamster: Ha! No worries! I figured you were either just missing it or you were being sarcastic in some way. Also, I figured others might be curious as well....

...Remember, the pka is the number that has 50/50 H/no H when the pH is at that number.

Just wanted to say: thanks for taking the time to type this out.
Posts like this are the reason I love Fark.


You're Welcome. :)

Threads like these don't come around too often (and even then, I don't always catch them), but it's the one of the few topics that I can speak with expertise.
 
2013-08-26 03:04:28 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Honey is bee vomit. Worse yet, meat is dead animals. Who cares?

I refuse to eat pigs and lamb.  I will eat some humanely raised chickens and grass fed beef that was humanely executed.


Lisa: Do we have any food that wasn't brutally slaughtered?Homer: Well I think the veal died of loneliness.
 
2013-08-26 03:06:06 AM  

multipaulinator: multipaulinator: Poop is undigested foodstuffs that the body couldn't or didn't get the chance to harvest nutrients from.


Are you saying your oxygen based metabolism could not pull some energy out of a fermentation waste product?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-08-26 03:06:37 AM  

mgshamster: What matters is the pH of the environment.  The OH on that molecule (the one labeled as O- in the image) has a pka around 2, which means that when the pH is under 2, it'll be more in the OH form.  The amine group (the NH3+) has a pka around 10, so it the pH is below 10, it'll more likely have the H on it, making it charged. It has to go above 10 in order for it to lose the H, making it the non-charged NH2.  With a pH of water (about 7), you should expect both to be charged (O- and NH3+).  Remember, the pka is the number that has 50/50 H/no H when the pH is at that number.


Gosh, I haven't thought through that in years. Thanks for the review!

One of these days I'm going to watch the podcast for the entry-level chem classes, see how much I can get from them.
 
2013-08-26 03:08:57 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: My worry about sucralose is that it is a covalently bonded chlorinated hydrocarbon. So many of those are toxic. And since it doesn't have a laxative effect, like for instance some sugar alcohols, it is absorbed by the gut. So where the heck does that covalent chlorine go? Doesn't stop me from using a packet rarely at a restaurant to sweeten a coffee when I don't have any stevia with me, but I try to stick to the stevia


It goes right out in your urine.  The majority of sucralose isn't digested; it just passes through.  It's irrelevant, anyways; the amount you consume is extremely small, well below the LOEL (lowest observable effect level) in a dose-response curve.  You have to consume more than 30 packets per day before you got close to the LOEL.
 
2013-08-26 03:14:09 AM  

mgshamster: Enigmamf: kind of a counterpoint to people who expect similar-looking molecules to act the same, e.g. the person who assumed chlorine in sucralose would be dangerous because many chlorine-bearing molecules are

I once took a freshmen level college nutrition class where the teacher claimed that exact thing: that sucralose was bad because of chlorine.  She showed the molecule, and pointed at the chlorine atom while making a scrunched up face and saying, "And you all know what chorline does, right?"  I wanted to ask her about table salt at that moment, (sodium chloride, NaCl), but I never did.

/This was at a community college


Ionic compound.   You can piss it out.

/Can still be pretty nasty though.  Ask a slug.
 
2013-08-26 03:15:09 AM  
Ok, everyone pretend to be chemists/biologists.
 
2013-08-26 03:21:18 AM  

wallywam1: FrancoFile: So is insulin.

THIS TIMES ONE MILLION!

I've never seen such a fundamentally flawed piece of garbage. It's not feces. Inserts to bacterial plasmids are not considered GMO by anyone who understands the process. Whoever wrote this has maybe a fourth-grade understanding of biology.


It was a hatchet job. There is no way to tell whether the person knows better or not.

csb

I plugged genes into plasmids back in the day. I made a stable C6 cell line from a pIRES vector with my GOI in it. It was amplified in (read: shiat out of) DH5α.

/csb
 
2013-08-26 03:21:44 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: multipaulinator: multipaulinator: Poop is undigested foodstuffs that the body couldn't or didn't get the chance to harvest nutrients from.

Are you saying your oxygen based metabolism could not pull some energy out of a fermentation waste product?

[450x358 from http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Citric_acid_c ycle_with_aconitate_2.svg/450px-Citric_acid_cycle_with_aconitate_2.svg .png image 450x358]


No. I'm saying the yeast never digested the nutrients it used to produce those fermentation waste products; it absorbed them in the same way my cells absorb nutrients that have been digested, but not metabolized. On the other side of the metabolic pathway, my cells dump their waste products into my blood for my kidneys to filter out later in much the same way that yeast dumps its metabolic waste into its surrounding environment.
 
2013-08-26 03:27:11 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: mgshamster: Enigmamf: kind of a counterpoint to people who expect similar-looking molecules to act the same, e.g. the person who assumed chlorine in sucralose would be dangerous because many chlorine-bearing molecules are

I once took a freshmen level college nutrition class where the teacher claimed that exact thing: that sucralose was bad because of chlorine.  She showed the molecule, and pointed at the chlorine atom while making a scrunched up face and saying, "And you all know what chorline does, right?"  I wanted to ask her about table salt at that moment, (sodium chloride, NaCl), but I never did.

/This was at a community college

Ionic compound.   You can piss it out.

/Can still be pretty nasty though.  Ask a slug.


Well, yeah. :)

I was a freshman back then. I didn't have the knowledge to smack her down, but even then I realized it was hypocritical to state that chlorine is bad because it's *chlorine* while ignoring table salt.  When it comes to chloride, though, we are capable of handling more of that than we can sodium ions.  We actually use quite a bit of chloride in our systems (in fact, our nervous system is dependent on it, chloride helps regulate the charge for sending electrical signals down neurons, which is the basis for every muscle movement, every thought, and more).
 /I'm a toxicologist. :)
 
2013-08-26 03:33:10 AM  
 

heavymetal: FTFA: So there we have it: An official document that not only reveals the shocking truth behind aspartame production, but also freely admits that it was intended for mass consumption as a sucrose substitute. Therefore, the next time someone claims that your reservations about this sweetener are unfounded, direct them to this patent - the truth behind aspartame is now in plain view.

So aspartame
1. Is made through bacteria cultures like cheese, yogurt, and other food products.
2. Was created to be a sugar substitute marketed to consumers.
3. Since it is a protein, the producer feels it might be more beneficial nutritionally than sugar.

As hard as I am trying, I am having a difficult time generating any outrage over this. Rather than feeling concerned; I am feeling more confused over what exactly is the conspiracy regarding aspartame, and what are the desired end results of the conspirators. The author has failed to explain those two important points.


That's what took from the article as well. I had thought the stuff was made in industrial furnaces that cooked up batches of a mixture bleach, mustard gas and cyanide until they were nice and sweetly toxic. But that article revealed that aspartame is made in a much more natural than I had thought, and even contains protein.

I think I'll have to start using it.
 
2013-08-26 03:34:13 AM  

multipaulinator: Vlad_the_Inaner: multipaulinator: multipaulinator: Poop is undigested foodstuffs that the body couldn't or didn't get the chance to harvest nutrients from.

Are you saying your oxygen based metabolism could not pull some energy out of a fermentation waste product?

[450x358 from http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Citric_acid_c ycle_with_aconitate_2.svg/450px-Citric_acid_cycle_with_aconitate_2.svg .png image 450x358]

No. I'm saying the yeast never digested the nutrients it used to produce those fermentation waste products; it absorbed them in the same way my cells absorb nutrients that have been digested, but not metabolized. On the other side of the metabolic pathway, my cells dump their waste products into my blood for my kidneys to filter out later in much the same way that yeast dumps its metabolic waste into its surrounding environment.


So, the yeast, took a carbohydrate, anaerobically digested some energy out of it, then excreted a waste product that you could digest?

So doesn't that fit your definition of poop?  "Poop is undigested foodstuffs that the body [of the yeast] couldn't or didn't get the chance to harvest nutrients from[. but the waste is a foodstuff because aerobic metabolism can]. "
 
2013-08-26 03:39:30 AM  

doglover: Lambics are fruit beers.


Not even close. A true lambic is fermented in a stone pit in a barn and fermented with wild yeast and bacteria strains that have lived and developed there for hundreds of years. If a batch of wort isn't fermenting fast enough the braumeisters will walk around the barn and bang on the rafters with poles to knock dirt and dust into the beer.

I'm not sure if you can get a real lambic in the US. There are a number of fakes that mimic the sour taste with different mixtures of acidic juices, which is probably why so many people think a lambic is a fruit-infused beer.

I asked the guy I buy beer supplies from once if it was possible to order a real lambic yeast. He said yes, although it had to be imported and he wouldn't dare touch the stuff. Apparently it's so virulent that will "infect" not only all your equipment, but also whatever building or house you brew in and short of napalming the place, you'll never ever brew another beer that's not a lambic.
 
2013-08-26 03:39:32 AM  

GWSuperfan: jshine: So is "human" insulin (the stuff diabetics inject) -- among many, many other things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin#Synthesis_2

Thank you for pointing that out.

/diabetic


If you could just lay hands on those bacteria, you could grow your own insulin shots. Be the first hipsterbetic with your organic local foods, your fedora, and your own insulin set up.

i.qkme.me
 
2013-08-26 03:43:00 AM  

log_jammin: Microwaving food will KILL YOU!!

stop and think back at all the people you know who, over the years, have died from microwave popcorn.


Actually, Popcorn Lung is apparently a real thing that can kill you.

...or score you $7.2 million if you know a good law-talking-guy.
 
2013-08-26 03:43:15 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: multipaulinator: multipaulinator: Poop is undigested foodstuffs that the body couldn't or didn't get the chance to harvest nutrients from.

Are you saying your oxygen based metabolism could not pull some energy out of a fermentation waste product?

[450x358 from http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Citric_acid_c ycle_with_aconitate_2.svg/450px-Citric_acid_cycle_with_aconitate_2.svg .png image 450x358]


It's a chart. Someone posted a CHART!

Thread's over. Go home everyone. Drive safely.
 
2013-08-26 03:45:20 AM  

Sensei Can You See: A true lambic is fermented in a stone pit in a barn and fermented with wild yeast and bacteria strains that have lived and developed there for hundreds of years. If a batch of wort isn't fermenting fast enough the braumeisters will walk around the barn and bang on the rafters with poles to knock dirt and dust into the beer.


i25.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-26 03:46:28 AM  

mgshamster: We actually use quite a bit of chloride in our systems (in fact, our nervous system is dependent on it, chloride helps regulate the charge for sending electrical signals down neurons, which is the basis for every muscle movement, every thought, and more).


Not to mention stomachs filled with HCL
 
2013-08-26 03:47:23 AM  

SevenizGud: wallywam1: FrancoFile: So is insulin.

THIS TIMES ONE MILLION!

I've never seen such a fundamentally flawed piece of garbage. It's not feces. Inserts to bacterial plasmids are not considered GMO by anyone who understands the process. Whoever wrote this has maybe a fourth-grade understanding of biology.

It was a hatchet job. There is no way to tell whether the person knows better or not.

csb

I plugged genes into plasmids back in the day. I made a stable C6 cell line from a pIRES vector with my GOI in it. It was amplified in (read: shiat out of) DH5α.

/csb


Oligonucleotide synthesis, PCR, insertion, selective media (Ampicillin gradient plates), selective media 2 (yeast extract plus ampicillin), DNA prep and agarose gel electrophoresis to confirm. 100% feces free. For the win.

/Tip of the cap to you, sir.
 
2013-08-26 03:54:24 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: mgshamster: We actually use quite a bit of chloride in our systems (in fact, our nervous system is dependent on it, chloride helps regulate the charge for sending electrical signals down neurons, which is the basis for every muscle movement, every thought, and more).

Not to mention stomachs filled with HCL


I rattle of the relatively obscure while missing the blatantly obvious. Typical ivory tower scientist, eh? :)
 
2013-08-26 03:56:08 AM  

wallywam1: SevenizGud: wallywam1: FrancoFile: So is insulin.

THIS TIMES ONE MILLION!

I've never seen such a fundamentally flawed piece of garbage. It's not feces. Inserts to bacterial plasmids are not considered GMO by anyone who understands the process. Whoever wrote this has maybe a fourth-grade understanding of biology.

It was a hatchet job. There is no way to tell whether the person knows better or not.

csb

I plugged genes into plasmids back in the day. I made a stable C6 cell line from a pIRES vector with my GOI in it. It was amplified in (read: shiat out of) DH5α.

/csb

Oligonucleotide synthesis, PCR, insertion, selective media (Ampicillin gradient plates), selective media 2 (yeast extract plus ampicillin), DNA prep and agarose gel electrophoresis to confirm. 100% feces free. For the win.

/Tip of the cap to you, sir.


But but... then it's a GMO and UNNATURAL!!1
 
2013-08-26 03:58:04 AM  

EngineerBob: GM feces. I think I drove one of those in the 70's


I lol'ed.

Those were better cars then Pintos, because they didn't explode in flames. They just backfired.
 
2013-08-26 04:05:28 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: mgshamster: We actually use quite a bit of chloride in our systems (in fact, our nervous system is dependent on it, chloride helps regulate the charge for sending electrical signals down neurons, which is the basis for every muscle movement, every thought, and more).

Not to mention stomachs filled with HCL


I did an article for a physician's magazine a good 10 years ago; the gist being the frustration when a patient comes in with a few e-mails that got forwarded and they wanted ANSWERS. I talked with one such patient who was horrified to hear that aspartame creates formaldehyde and formalin in the digestive system.

I said yes, it's true: Aspartame creates formaldehyde and formalin in the digestive tract -- Because both compounds are naturally occuring by-products. If fact, if you eat a fresh banana you will produce far more formalin and formaldehyde than you will with a diet soda.
 
2013-08-26 04:15:21 AM  

Canton: RexTalionis: [harryscheeseandcoldcuts.com image 720x480]
[www.randrlife.co.uk image 400x300]

Look at all those disgusting byproducts of bacteria.

Yum. So much this. Bacteria are our friends.

But I still pass on the aspartame.

/The aftertaste is just so wrong.


Tastes like crap.
 
2013-08-26 04:16:05 AM  
I mentioned earlier that a small change can have a huge effect on the chemistry of a molecule. I should have also mentioned that a small change can have extremely little effect as well. It just depends on what the change is, where the change occurred, and what the situation is.

For example, if we take a molecule that must be metabolized by an enzyme, and we change the part that interacts with the enzyme, it can have a profound effect. Think of a lock and key; if you change up the part of the key that interacts with the lock, you can make it completely ineffective. Conversely, if you change part of the molecule that doesn't interact with the enzyme, you may have effectively done nothing at all (like changing the handle on the lock).
 
2013-08-26 04:16:58 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: multipaulinator: Vlad_the_Inaner: multipaulinator: multipaulinator: Poop is undigested foodstuffs that the body couldn't or didn't get the chance to harvest nutrients from.

Are you saying your oxygen based metabolism could not pull some energy out of a fermentation waste product?

[450x358 from http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Citric_acid_c ycle_with_aconitate_2.svg/450px-Citric_acid_cycle_with_aconitate_2.svg .png image 450x358]

No. I'm saying the yeast never digested the nutrients it used to produce those fermentation waste products; it absorbed them in the same way my cells absorb nutrients that have been digested, but not metabolized. On the other side of the metabolic pathway, my cells dump their waste products into my blood for my kidneys to filter out later in much the same way that yeast dumps its metabolic waste into its surrounding environment.

So, the yeast, took a carbohydrate, anaerobically digested some energy out of it, then excreted a waste product that you could digest?

So doesn't that fit your definition of poop?  "Poop is undigested foodstuffs that the body [of the yeast] couldn't or didn't get the chance to harvest nutrients from[. but the waste is a foodstuff because aerobic metabolism can]. "


The yeast didn't anaerobically digest energy out of it. If you think that there's any possible way that the phrase "anaerobic digestion" could make any sense, then I suggest you brush up on your terminology. You've also demonstrated that you're unaware of the actual definitions of the terms  metabolismfoodstuffbody -- à la  body [of the yeast] --  nutrientaerobic or even  harvest. Seriously, Data misused physics jargon on the second-to-last segment of every Star Trek: The Next Generation episode less than you managed to misuse biological terminology in that reply.
 
2013-08-26 04:34:30 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Honey is bee vomit. Worse yet, meat is dead animals. Who cares?


Most people don't care, that is, until they get sick. Then they go to the doctor, and he tells them its genetics, and prescribes them medication, which is really just a band-aid for a poor diet.

BTW, The eggs most people eat are the menstrual period of Chicken, enjoy your breakfast.
 
2013-08-26 04:37:51 AM  

Lusebagage: BTW, The eggs most people eat are the menstrual period of Chicken, enjoy your breakfast



Guy goes into a luncheon counter and asks "What's the special?" Waiter says "Beef tongue sandwich". Guy says "Eww, that's disgusting! I can't eat something that came out of a cow's mouth! Just give me an egg salad sandwich."
 
2013-08-26 04:42:37 AM  
I drink diet drinks all the time.  I just don't put any lemons or limes in there because vitamin C reacts with the preservative benzoate to make a negligible amount of benzene.  Benzene is nasty stuff and causes cancer.

Strangely enough, most fruit juices have zero vitamin C.  Who knew?
 
2013-08-26 04:50:42 AM  

gravespinner: I refuse to eat pigs and lamb. I will eat some humanely raised chickens and grass fed beef that was humanely executed.


There is nothing "humane" about stealing another creatures purpose, it is simply a form of violence.  Even in so called "humane" operations, they must artificially inseminate the animals against their will, (otherwise known as rape).  How do you humanely control the reproductive cycle of another being, and force impregnation upon them?  You cant.  The term "Humane" is simply a band-aid for a bleeding conscience.  Have you ever heard of a "humane" slave, because that's what any animal is that is brought into the world for the sole purpose of becoming a marketable item.  Think about it
 
2013-08-26 04:53:22 AM  

Lusebagage: and he tells them its genetics, and prescribes them medication, which is really just a band-aid for a poor diet


lol wut?
 
2013-08-26 04:56:49 AM  

Lusebagage: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Honey is bee vomit. Worse yet, meat is dead animals. Who cares?

Most people don't care, that is, until they get sick. Then they go to the doctor, and he tells them its genetics, and prescribes them medication, which is really just a band-aid for a poor diet.

BTW, The eggs most people eat are the menstrual period of Chicken, enjoy your breakfast.


*facepalm* Let's see. Chickens only lay eggs that have been fertilized. Menstruation only occurs at the end of a menstrual period where the egg didn't get fertilized. So....... try again......??
 
2013-08-26 04:58:51 AM  

HotWingAgenda: There are people that didn't know this? Sucralose is also like one hydrogen atom away from being antifreeze. If you really want to give a chemist an aneurism, go around claiming sucralose is harmful because its compound is similar to poison.


Did you know that propylene glycol, which is used as an antifreeze, is deliberately placed in many foods and medicines?  I mean, it's similar to Ethylene glycol, and that shiat will make you blind!
 
2013-08-26 04:59:28 AM  
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2013-08-26 05:00:04 AM  

multipaulinator: You've also demonstrated that you're unaware of the actual definitions of the terms metabolism, foodstuff, body -- à la body [of the yeast] -- nutrient, aerobic or even harvest.


Right.

A chemical in itself, for instance a sugar, can't be a foodstuff.
Metabolism doesn't include catabolism
A yeast can't be an individual organism, so it can't have a body.
food calories aren't part of nutrition
Generating ATP via respiration can't be called harvesting energy
Aerobic (w/ oxygen) respiration can't proceed from the results of anaerobic respiration (fermentation).

Got it, swifty.
 
2013-08-26 05:02:03 AM  

WeenerGord: Guy goes into a luncheon counter and asks "What's the special?" Waiter says "Beef tongue sandwich". Guy says "Eww, that's disgusting! I can't eat something that came out of a cow's mouth! Just give me an egg salad sandwich."


What a great joke, perfect metaphor for the rational disconnect experienced by those that consume animal products.
 
2013-08-26 05:10:46 AM  

Lusebagage: What a great joke, perfect metaphor for the rational disconnect experienced by those that consume animal products.


Uh, given that I chuckled at it as well I think it's more for disconnect for the insulated city types that haven't ever considered where their food comes from.

Me, I know where my food comes from and I'm fine with it.  I mean, I've had vegans tell me before that I wouldn't eat meat if I had to slaughter it myself.  I certainly have no problems eating cow tongue or chicken menses.
 
2013-08-26 05:12:14 AM  

Lusebagage: WeenerGord: Guy goes into a luncheon counter and asks "What's the special?" Waiter says "Beef tongue sandwich". Guy says "Eww, that's disgusting! I can't eat something that came out of a cow's mouth! Just give me an egg salad sandwich."

What a great joke, perfect metaphor for the rational disconnect experienced by those that consume animal products.


How can you rationalize eating plants?  They never did anything to you.
 
2013-08-26 05:13:29 AM  

multipaulinator: Chickens only lay eggs that have been fertilized.


This is the guy who criticizes my knowledge of biology.

You think chickens stop laying when there are no roosters about?

You don't know why farmers 'candle' their eggs?
 
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