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(LA Times)   Burning Man attendees put up with a lot: heat, dust, no plumbing. But what they really can't stand are cellphones   (latimes.com) divider line 111
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2013-08-25 09:32:21 PM  

profplump: Rip Dashrock: As an old fart, I find it amusing how many people have a cell phone glued to their ear 24/7.

As a kid-these-days I find it amusing how many old people aren't willing to share their lives with anyone who can't be within shouting distance. And how they have this constant need to talk out loud whenever they are together -- some things are better shared in text.

Communications technology is communications technology gramps. Just because the version you're most comfortable with doesn't work over long distances doesn't make it any more "natural" or important.


Actually...you look really farking retarded when you're constantly glued to your phone.   Some things are only better in texts if you're an introvert who hates contact with the outside world.  Lets get married via text, lets tell someone a loved one died via text!  Lets just have sex via text and call it good!

You may think technology is just awesome, but trust me...you look retarded and pathetic being glued to your iphone all day.
 
2013-08-25 09:39:35 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: Ah, the unemployable festival.


Vacations how does it work?
 
2013-08-25 09:41:49 PM  
First world problems still happen there ... I'll pass, thanks.
 
2013-08-25 09:43:58 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: Ah, the unemployable festival.


with "unemployable" people like Jeff Bezos, Larry Page, and Sergei Brin? (FTA)

/ however, as another FARKER pointed out, Burning Man would have been much cooler 20 years ago...
 
2013-08-25 09:45:12 PM  
FTA:
"I think a lot of people are closed-minded - just in their own nonconformist ways."

Perfectly sums up Burning Man, other festivals of that ilk, and those who attend them.
 
2013-08-25 09:51:37 PM  
"It was cool and edgy before you came".

Crap, It's like that whole Motley Crue fiasco back in 1985 all over again.
 
2013-08-25 09:53:16 PM  
I want to start a competing festival called Defenestration Man where the event culminates with everyone being thrown out of a window.
 
2013-08-25 09:53:38 PM  
30.media.tumblr.com


/hot like the bowl
 
2013-08-25 09:56:05 PM  

kimwim: Burning Man is on my bucket list.


That's pretty sad.
 
2013-08-25 09:56:06 PM  
FSM I hate burning man.
 
2013-08-25 09:56:22 PM  
Spending a week in the desert without a decent toilet or the ability to bathe is not my idea of a good time.

A hotel with room service is my idea of a good time.

/I love room service
 
Oak
2013-08-25 09:58:08 PM  
I'm old enough to remember when arguing about Burning Man's cultural relevance was cool.
 
2013-08-25 09:58:30 PM  
As someone who went last year, lemme tell you this article really misses the entire reality of the situation.  Yes, there was cell service last year... proprietary cell service, transmitted over a home-made cell tower that routed calls over a VOIP and limited call time to a minute each dial.  Oh, and dialing in was basically impossible.  No data service at all, and the limited range of the cell service covered maybe a third of the camp area.

This is not a situation where you might be out in the open, empty desert (or at the temple) and suddenly hear someone's cell phone go off, ruining your vibe mannnnn.  This is more like "f%$#, I just realized I forgot to tell my roommate where I left the insurance payment and I really need to tell him where it is."

NutWrench: Big- and small-name DJs spin sets powered by portable generators, the vibrating thump traveling across miles of cloudless sky.

THAT would bother me infinitely more that someone's cell phone going off.


If it's just one, yes.  When you're there though it's more like 8-20 all at one time, 24 hours a day. It blends into a dull white noise that actually helps you get to sleep.

MrHappyRotter: No plumbing?  How do people bathe/shower?  What about after poop clean-up?  And sweating all day long.  And, oh my god, I just puked a bit at the thought of what sex would be like with someone who hasn't bathed in days, has been sweating the whole time, and hasn't been able to properly clean the stink spots, which by this point have grown to encompass the whole body.


People bring enough water to at least have sponge baths.  I took one shower a day when I went using a flower pitcher and a dark-colored bucket to pre-heat the water in the sun.  A lot of people bring Solar Showers, which is just a fancy way of saying "a big black bag with some tubing and a showerhead on the end".  Still, it works.

Sgygus: I hate it when people get together for some fun.


And that's this thread in a nutshell.  Also acceptable:

www.pregchan.com
 
2013-08-25 09:58:45 PM  

But Wait There's More: Every reference of Burning Man reminds me of this


I cant find it from my phone, but there was also a great Onion article about some hippies not making it to burning man because they didnt start gathering change for gas soon enough. lulz
 
rka
2013-08-25 09:58:47 PM  

Emo Jeezus: Rip Dashrock: As an old fart, I find it amusing how many people have a cell phone glued to their ear 24/7. And, they all look like they are passing on vital info on exactly where the bomb is planted, when in reality, most conversations are a variation of "what are you doing? Nothing, what are you doing?"
God forbid some virus shuts down the wireless transmission network for a day or two, suicide prevention landlines would probably redline.

True, it's overdone, but...some people have jobs they need to stay in contact with, even Burning Manners. It ain't the family farm and 9 to 5 anymore.


Well maybe they shouldn't be snorting peyote in the desert if they are so vital to their job's continued existence.

I don't give two shiats about people using their phone but this "oh, I need to stay in touch with my work", while they are out getting stoned to the bejeezes and oggling the naked chicks in the middle of farking nowhere is about the dumbest excuse for it ever.

Get stoned. Oggle freaky naked chicks. Use your phone to upload pics of both to your Facebook account for the sole reason of pissing off your ex-wife. That's a much better excuse.
 
2013-08-25 10:00:26 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: ITT: people who don't have the foggiest idea of what Burning Man is all about.


shrines.rpgclassics.com
 
2013-08-25 10:02:14 PM  
I'm sure someone very worthy is making a lot of money off of Burning Man.
 
2013-08-25 10:02:59 PM  

Emo Jeezus: Rip Dashrock: As an old fart, I find it amusing how many people have a cell phone glued to their ear 24/7. And, they all look like they are passing on vital info on exactly where the bomb is planted, when in reality, most conversations are a variation of "what are you doing? Nothing, what are you doing?"
God forbid some virus shuts down the wireless transmission network for a day or two, suicide prevention landlines would probably redline.

True, it's overdone, but...some people have jobs they need to stay in contact with, even Burning Manners. It ain't the family farm and 9 to 5 anymore.


Nobody is so important that they can't be out of contact for a few days, they only THINK they are.
 
2013-08-25 10:05:10 PM  

GoldSpider: I'm sure someone very worthy is making a lot of money off of Burning Man.


I knew a girl who worked for the business that managed Burning Man.  It's entirely a money making operation.  Period.  No.  The money isn't for some non-profit or social awareness organization.  It was for a business that specialized in setting up money making entertainment events.  They would sell tickets to executions if they thought they'd make a buck.
 
2013-08-25 10:05:45 PM  

KrispyKritter: phone call, so what. i'd be more concerned about being able to get my freak on without the possibility of winding up on YouTube etcetera.


All images are property of Burning Man, Inc. or whateverthefark the master money collecting control entity is called.
 
2013-08-25 10:06:01 PM  
Burning Man would be cooler if it was completely about lighting farts.

The fireballs from roasting dreadlocks would be quite amusing.
 
2013-08-25 10:06:09 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Emo Jeezus: Rip Dashrock: As an old fart, I find it amusing how many people have a cell phone glued to their ear 24/7. And, they all look like they are passing on vital info on exactly where the bomb is planted, when in reality, most conversations are a variation of "what are you doing? Nothing, what are you doing?"
God forbid some virus shuts down the wireless transmission network for a day or two, suicide prevention landlines would probably redline.

True, it's overdone, but...some people have jobs they need to stay in contact with, even Burning Manners. It ain't the family farm and 9 to 5 anymore.

Nobody is so important that they can't be out of contact for a few days, they only THINK they are.


Thats why god invented iphones.
 
2013-08-25 10:08:35 PM  

fusillade762: I want to start a competing festival called Defenestration Man where the event culminates with everyone being thrown out of a window.


Man, if there are trampolines, count me in!

I've never done Burning Man, but lots of friends from all over the spectrum have gone and loved it - all employed, most are scientists or extreme sports professionals (dudes get paid for doing crazy things way too fast in snow, I'm impressed), a few folks who've turned the whole 'Trustafarian' thing on its head and do a WHOLE lot of good in the state, a few cheerful stinky poor-ass hippies, etc.

It'd drive me nuts to be around so many people for so long, but I love their stories. For every half-assed homemade hula hoop that gets traded, there's a Tesla Coil or rockin' party. Carry on, Burning Man.
 
2013-08-25 10:10:33 PM  

Barfmaker: Big- and small-name DJs spin sets powered by portable generators, the vibrating thump traveling across miles of cloudless sky. Cacophony is the cheerfully tolerated norm, but there's one sound that's frequently met with eye-rolling derision: the ring of a cellphone.

And so it comes clear to me that I shall become a DJ. And the tunes I spin will be the sound of an iPhone ring tone. For hours and hours.

I'll spin a super low frequency versions that rattle the desert floor, and ultra high frequency versions that only the young ones with no onions on their belts can hear. And trance versions that just repeat it over and over until they cry out in longing for the brown acid which has been reported to be bad.

And because I'm a DJ I shall be accepted, and because I play iPhone ring tones I shall be rejected, and the universe will tear itself apart.

Verily I say this unto you. And also sliver painted chick titties.


That right there is funny.
*snert*
 
2013-08-25 10:13:49 PM  
Peter von Nostrand: Aren't these like a Juggalo gathering, only a little more normal  self-obsessed?
 
2013-08-25 10:16:14 PM  

Peki: You can add harassment by law enforcement to that list too. The ACLU has put up a booth at Center Camp this year to handle complaints.


Watch out for these dudes:

i43.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-25 10:23:12 PM  

Barfmaker: Big- and small-name DJs spin sets powered by portable generators, the vibrating thump traveling across miles of cloudless sky. Cacophony is the cheerfully tolerated norm, but there's one sound that's frequently met with eye-rolling derision: the ring of a cellphone.

And so it comes clear to me that I shall become a DJ. And the tunes I spin will be the sound of an iPhone ring tone. For hours and hours.

I'll spin a super low frequency versions that rattle the desert floor, and ultra high frequency versions that only the young ones with no onions on their belts can hear. And trance versions that just repeat it over and over until they cry out in longing for the brown acid which has been reported to be bad.

And because I'm a DJ I shall be accepted, and because I play iPhone ring tones I shall be rejected, and the universe will tear itself apart.

Verily I say this unto you. And also sliver painted chick titties.


Fire up the Kickstarer! I finally found something to support!
 
2013-08-25 10:32:58 PM  

GoldSpider: I'm sure someone very worthy is making a lot of money off of Burning Man.


If I recall, it is run by this corporation called Black Rock or something like that. It is amazing how much money is actually made from these people.
 
2013-08-25 10:33:27 PM  

Fade2black: profplump: Rip Dashrock: As an old fart, I find it amusing how many people have a cell phone glued to their ear 24/7.

As a kid-these-days I find it amusing how many old people aren't willing to share their lives with anyone who can't be within shouting distance. And how they have this constant need to talk out loud whenever they are together -- some things are better shared in text.

Communications technology is communications technology gramps. Just because the version you're most comfortable with doesn't work over long distances doesn't make it any more "natural" or important.

Actually...you look really farking retarded when you're constantly glued to your phone.   Some things are only better in texts if you're an introvert who hates contact with the outside world.  Lets get married via text, lets tell someone a loved one died via text!  Lets just have sex via text and call it good!

You may think technology is just awesome, but trust me...you look retarded and pathetic being glued to your iphone all day.


Forget your prozac? Jesus, lighten the fark up.
 
2013-08-25 10:34:11 PM  

ghare: nacho cheese sauce: MrHappyRotter: No plumbing?  How do people bathe/shower?  What about after poop clean-up?  And sweating all day long.  And, oh my god, I just puked a bit at the thought of what sex would be like with someone who hasn't bathed in days, has been sweating the whole time, and hasn't been able to properly clean the stink spots, which by this point have grown to encompass the whole body.

you forgot about the abundant dust. But otherwise sounds about right.

Somehow people managed to have sex in conditions just like that for about, well, since forever.


If I've learned anything from camping with young women, it's when you both stink, neither of you does :)
 
2013-08-25 10:37:27 PM  
I  thought the name had been changed to Poser Man to better reflect reality.
 
Oak
2013-08-25 10:39:45 PM  

PunGent: ghare: nacho cheese sauce: MrHappyRotter: If I've learned anything from camping with young women, it's when you both stink, neither of you does :)


And the lesson from swimming from bow-legged women?
 
2013-08-25 10:40:54 PM  
FTA: "Let's be realistic," Burgess says. "Going to Burning Man isn't cheap. Most people who have the wherewithal to do that have real jobs somewhere. And if they disappear to the dark side of the moon for a week, they have to at least every couple days or so take a look at the emails, make sure nothing's on fire back home."

The 21st century will, eventually, become known as the Century of Self-Imposed Hell.
 
2013-08-25 10:42:52 PM  
Verizon and Google should park a blimp over the camp blasting free internet access to anyone that wants it.
Difficulty: must sign in with your facebook account, and agree to being in an ad campaign.
 
2013-08-25 10:46:08 PM  

wiseolddude: People go there to show how different they are along with 60,000 others at a cost of hundreds of dollars. I can show people how different I am just by walking down the street for free.


You sound very concerned with your image. Just because you are does not mean others are as well.
 
2013-08-25 10:49:08 PM  

Lor M. Ipsum: I get a little bored with these pseudo-naturalists who want to leave civilization behind by packing their SUVs and camping trailers with their weekend warrior gear and diesel-powered generators.




I heard they even charge admission now. Farkin capitalist ruin everything.
 
2013-08-25 10:49:39 PM  
Dear friend and I talked about going to Burning Man 2012.  When we found out what tickets cost (IFIRC, close to $250 for a carload for 2 adult peeps) plus the expense of tents, camping equipment, etc and we're both fair campers, we decided, hell no.  Too expensive and I don't care if someone is handing out free acid/weed/ecstasy at the front gates.  Too expensive to go and camp and roast alive in the desert for a few days.

/enjoy spending your parents' money young'uns, it'll catch up to you unless you have another family member to blame it on (I would never speak from experience, but, so I've heard)
//turn off your IPhones, dammit.  We have seen enough BM photos already and know it's cool.  Don't need you to blog about it, thanks
 
2013-08-25 10:57:14 PM  
Should set up a subscription service and serve high def video of the event via copter drones 24/7 - be there!  sorta

"Hello-Central!"
 
2013-08-25 10:58:20 PM  

specialkae: //turn off your IPhones, dammit.  We have seen enough BM photos already and know it's cool.  Don't need you to blog about it, thanks


Besides, your smartphone camera is not going to do the place justice. There are hundreds of professional and enthusiast-level 35mm photographers out there who will capture all the cool stuff for you.
 
2013-08-25 11:10:21 PM  

But Wait There's More: Every reference of Burning Man reminds me of this


17-year-old Todd Kelso would be 32 now.
 
2013-08-25 11:11:13 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: specialkae: //turn off your IPhones, dammit.  We have seen enough BM photos already and know it's cool.  Don't need you to blog about it, thanks

Besides, your smartphone camera is not going to do the place justice. There are hundreds of professional and enthusiast-level 35mm photographers out there who will capture all the cool stuff for you.


Grab a notebook and write down what you'll remember. Read it when home/sober. Tell your stories better.

I've not been to Burning Man and don't know if I'll ever go, but several folks I know and respect have had wonderful times there.
I went to a similarly themed but MUCH smaller event (moneyless economy, leave no trace, camping, ritual effigy-burning near the end) on a farm in New Jersey (Freeform). The other campers I went with were scientists who brought a DJ.
Lots of revelry, creativity, and camaraderie. Everyone wore whatever they wanted (or didn't want). It was a very relaxing, enjoyable weekend and I met some fascinating people, not all of whom were whom you'd call "hippies" or the like. Don't knock it till you've tried it!
 
2013-08-25 11:13:38 PM  
I thought they had finally gotten the ticket prices high enough to keep people out that have a problem will cellphones.  Are there still poor people that see this as their annual disney resort trip equivalent and are just trying to make sure everyone is as miserable as they are?
 
2013-08-25 11:14:00 PM  

AGremlin: Mitch Taylor's Bro: ITT: people who don't have the foggiest idea of what Burning Man is all about.

Is it about love?


Well, I know a couple who met there, got married there and now bring their 4-yr-old daughter there, so... maybe.
 
2013-08-25 11:38:52 PM  

Rip Dashrock: As an old fart, I find it amusing how many people have a cell phone glued to their ear 24/7. And, they all look like they are passing on vital info on exactly where the bomb is planted, when in reality, most conversations are a variation of "what are you doing? Nothing, what are you doing?"
God forbid some virus shuts down the wireless transmission network for a day or two, suicide prevention landlines would probably redline.


You sound old. Very old. And I am old enough to remember when Herbert Hoover was still alive.
 
2013-08-25 11:39:33 PM  
Mitch Taylor's Bro: AGremlin: Mitch Taylor's Bro: ITT: people who don't have the foggiest idea of what Burning Man is all about.

Is it about love?

Well, I know a couple who met there, got married there and now bring their 4-yr-old daughter there, so... maybe.


I had a friend who went years ago late 90's or early 2000's and he enjoyed himself.  And I think some of the art projects look interesting, but I am just getting too old now to enjoy the insanity.

/ Plus, nobody wants to see silver painted, mid 40's, old man balls
 
2013-08-25 11:44:09 PM  

AGremlin: / Plus, nobody wants to see silver painted, mid 40's, old man balls


Wanna bet?
 
2013-08-25 11:45:50 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: Ah, the unemployable festival.


The only two people I know that regularly go to burning man are a Lawyer who flies his private plane out there and an engineer that flies his rented plane out there.

I'm not going to call you an idiot, but I am going to strongly imply it.
 
2013-08-25 11:54:50 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: AGremlin: / Plus, nobody wants to see silver painted, mid 40's, old man balls

Wanna bet?


Well they're mine.....I don't want to see them.....so I just assumed....
 
2013-08-26 12:07:27 AM  
AGremlin:

I had a friend who went years ago late 90's or early 2000's and he enjoyed himself.  And I think some of the art projects look interesting, but I am just getting too old now to enjoy the insanity.

/ Plus, nobody wants to see silver painted, mid 40's, old man balls


Yep.Somebody up thread posted maybe 20 years ago. I am at that age.A few years ago I was kneeling down and I reached in my back pocket.I mentioned to the girl 'I am getting old'.She said what do ya mean.I told her i reached into my back pocket and I felt my balls.

/I miss her.
 
2013-08-26 12:08:49 AM  

But Wait There's More: Every reference of Burning Man reminds me of this



it's even better when
 
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