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(Slashdot)   NSA, deciding that spying on US citizens wasn't enough, turns its sights on the UN. Bonus: while listening in on the UN, they discovered that the Chinese were trying to listen in as well   (yro.slashdot.org) divider line 111
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2013-08-25 09:58:01 PM  

spawn73: wesmon: And I would still call it whistleblowing. They have already caught plenty of wrongdoing. It is on the newspapers to not reveal harmful things. They should do the redacting.

And this revelation about the U.N. hardly classifies as traitorous to me.

Der Spiegel is German, they shouldn't, and won't, redact anything that harms USA.


The other thing to consider is that the Bundesnachtrichtendienst does the very same thing, and if the UN were headquartered in Bonn, Munich, or Berlin, you'd be hearing about the BND instead of the NSA, and it would be an American paper doing the revealing.

BTW, I love how the Germans bunch up their words into onebiguberwordofgreatimportance.
 
2013-08-26 12:02:42 AM  

LargeCanine: Spying on foreigners is what the NSA is for. Spying on Americans is the unacceptable bit.


....this, I tell ya, brother; you can't have one without the other....
 
2013-08-26 12:55:16 AM  
This just in: every nation spies on every other nation. Shocking I know. This is Ric Romero, reporting!
 
2013-08-26 01:59:14 AM  
Iam shocked, Shocked that there is spying between countries.
 
2013-08-26 09:26:03 AM  

dittybopper: spawn73: wesmon: And I would still call it whistleblowing. They have already caught plenty of wrongdoing. It is on the newspapers to not reveal harmful things. They should do the redacting.

And this revelation about the U.N. hardly classifies as traitorous to me.

Der Spiegel is German, they shouldn't, and won't, redact anything that harms USA.

The other thing to consider is that the Bundesnachtrichtendienst does the very same thing, and if the UN were headquartered in Bonn, Munich, or Berlin, you'd be hearing about the BND instead of the NSA, and it would be an American paper doing the revealing.

BTW, I love how the Germans bunch up their words into onebiguberwordofgreatimportance.


Citation, or wishful thinking?

Well, the American paper thing is obviously wishful thinking. Who the fark would ever give such information to an American paper? But what's your source for Germany spying on their allies and/or the UN?
 
2013-08-26 10:05:55 AM  

Oldiron_79: Iam shocked, Shocked that there is spying between countries.




Spying is like maturbation. Everyone does it but don't get caught. We see you masturbating.
 
2013-08-26 10:17:03 AM  

Kit Fister: hasty ambush: mtbhucker: Here, the NSA got caught doing its farking job for once, rather than listening in on an employee's husband's mistress, or reading our GMail.

Maybe you missed the part on how spying on the UN is illegal.

Pppffftt. This is the work the NSA should be doing-spying on the UN, foreign goverments etc. If they did not do this they would be negligent. Spying on American citizens without a warrant is the illegal activity we should be upset about not this.

Well, I think the NSA is doing its job gathering SIGINT from foreign governments (and to some degree trying to prevent leaks of sensitive data to foreign powers, so monitoring inbound traffic as well), but the actual spying is the CIA's job.


I expect the CIA to do it also.  THE NSA does a  lot of interpreting of those signals as the CIA would interpret any info it would received form document or listening devices it planted.so I think you can call it spying
 
2013-08-26 10:21:32 AM  

hasty ambush: Kit Fister: hasty ambush: mtbhucker: Here, the NSA got caught doing its farking job for once, rather than listening in on an employee's husband's mistress, or reading our GMail.

Maybe you missed the part on how spying on the UN is illegal.

Pppffftt. This is the work the NSA should be doing-spying on the UN, foreign goverments etc. If they did not do this they would be negligent. Spying on American citizens without a warrant is the illegal activity we should be upset about not this.

Well, I think the NSA is doing its job gathering SIGINT from foreign governments (and to some degree trying to prevent leaks of sensitive data to foreign powers, so monitoring inbound traffic as well), but the actual spying is the CIA's job.

I expect the CIA to do it also.  THE NSA does a  lot of interpreting of those signals as the CIA would interpret any info it would received form document or listening devices it planted.so I think you can call it spying




Don't forget them spying on each other.

/tax dollars at work
//i feel safer
 
2013-08-26 11:19:56 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: hasty ambush: Kit Fister: hasty ambush: mtbhucker: Here, the NSA got caught doing its farking job for once, rather than listening in on an employee's husband's mistress, or reading our GMail.

Maybe you missed the part on how spying on the UN is illegal.

Pppffftt. This is the work the NSA should be doing-spying on the UN, foreign goverments etc. If they did not do this they would be negligent. Spying on American citizens without a warrant is the illegal activity we should be upset about not this.

Well, I think the NSA is doing its job gathering SIGINT from foreign governments (and to some degree trying to prevent leaks of sensitive data to foreign powers, so monitoring inbound traffic as well), but the actual spying is the CIA's job.

I expect the CIA to do it also.  THE NSA does a  lot of interpreting of those signals as the CIA would interpret any info it would received form document or listening devices it planted.so I think you can call it spying

Don't forget them spying on each other.

/tax dollars at work
//i feel safer




On average, American federal government workers receive 16 percent higher total compensation than do similar workers in other OECD nations, even after differences in the countries' average income levels are taken into account. Yet Biggs points to several factors suggesting that U.S. federal employees are on average less skilled than their foreign counterparts.
 
2013-08-26 11:51:54 AM  
Spying on Americans? Never....
The President's Analyst
The best part of the line is when a KGB guy tells a CIA guy something like "every year you become more like us and we become more like you"
How insightful for a movie made in 1967
 
2013-08-26 10:19:18 PM  
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