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(BBC)   Australia have declared at tea - will England play it safe or swing out? Your final 2013 Ashes thread   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 24
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2013-08-25 12:48:15 PM
Well I did not expect this.  England need 5.5 runs an over.  Wouldn't they love to have Chris Gayle about now...
 
2013-08-25 12:49:44 PM
The declaration was exactly what this match needed after the snooze-fest that was Friday. Also -- Trott looks like he wants to win this.
 
2013-08-25 12:50:44 PM
Props to the Aussie captain. He's turned a dull procession into an interesting match.
 
2013-08-25 12:51:04 PM
I wasn't going to watch, but I turned it on and now I can't turn it off.

I thought there'd just be a dreary trudge to a draw.
 
2013-08-25 12:55:51 PM
Cook LBW. No review. KP in.
 
2013-08-25 12:56:12 PM
Cook gone, and i'mokwiththis.jpg. Get the big bats in there and finish this!
 
2013-08-25 01:13:07 PM
Game on - at this point it's a 20/20 match without fielding restrictions.  England need 122.
 
2013-08-25 01:28:49 PM
KP's strike rate is 142!  Go England!
 
2013-08-25 02:01:26 PM
Pietersen ought caught in the deep.  Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
 
2013-08-25 02:15:39 PM
I think Bell has the chance to wrap up Man of the Series right here.
 
2013-08-25 02:31:23 PM
Crap.  Light might kill this one.  Damn damn damn.
 
2013-08-25 02:35:22 PM

FrancoFile: Crap.  Light might kill this one.  Damn damn damn.


Nope. Clarke might kill this one using the light and constantly chatting up the umpire.
 
2013-08-25 02:38:29 PM
I have no clue what goes on in cricket, but I know exactly what Game Called On Account Of Darkness means. It means sad pandas.
 
2013-08-25 02:40:35 PM
Did not expect that Australia would be playing for a draw at the end of this one.
 
2013-08-25 02:46:28 PM

jonathan_L: FrancoFile: Crap.  Light might kill this one.  Damn damn damn.

Nope. Clarke might kill this one using the light and constantly chatting up the umpire.



It's standard professional gamesmanship. When your tactic fails you try and drag it out so you don't lose.

Now the irony is that this is the same type of gamesmanship that the Australians were complaining about.

The funny thing is how Lehman came out and said he coaches people to cheat.
 
2013-08-25 02:46:58 PM
Massive anti-climax.
 
2013-08-25 02:50:33 PM

Norfolking Chance: jonathan_L: FrancoFile: Crap.  Light might kill this one.  Damn damn damn.

Nope. Clarke might kill this one using the light and constantly chatting up the umpire.


It's standard professional gamesmanship. When your tactic fails you try and drag it out so you don't lose.


Yeah, I get that. Just feels like Clarke got away with his declaration, and I farking hate that.
 
2013-08-25 02:51:17 PM
England win the series, 3.5 to 0.

Now we have 3 months of trash talk and speculation until the return series in Australia.
 
2013-08-25 02:58:14 PM

FrancoFile: England win the series, 3.5 to 0.

Now we have 3 months of trash talk and speculation until the return series in Australia.


Wait... the series was already clinched? Why was this even taking place then?
 
2013-08-25 03:02:02 PM

Gosling: FrancoFile: England win the series, 3.5 to 0.

Now we have 3 months of trash talk and speculation until the return series in Australia.

Wait... the series was already clinched? Why was this even taking place then?



It's not like the NBA playoffs.  The play the whole series regardless of the line.
If the Reds win the first 3 games of a 5-game homestand with the Cardinals, they still play the other 2 games.
 
2013-08-25 03:13:43 PM

FrancoFile: Gosling: FrancoFile: England win the series, 3.5 to 0.

Now we have 3 months of trash talk and speculation until the return series in Australia.

Wait... the series was already clinched? Why was this even taking place then?


It's not like the NBA playoffs.  The play the whole series regardless of the line.
If the Reds win the first 3 games of a 5-game homestand with the Cardinals, they still play the other 2 games.


Yeah. And most international sides play 15 or less Tests in a year. If you removed dead rubber matches that would be down to less than 10 and make it even harder to establish world rankings (which in theory should start counting towards a Test championship playoff system in the future). Also, when you only have a say 5 or 6 home tests per year you spread them out across the country and give them to different stadiums. So for example in a big country like Australia, if you only played 3 out of the 5 Tests in a home summer, 2 out of the 5 big cities would miss out and the people there would be nowhere near a Test that year. That would both deprive people of seeing the matches, and the boards of a lot of revenue.
 
2013-08-25 03:54:05 PM

Norfolking Chance: The funny thing is how Lehman came out and said he coaches people to cheat.


I didn't realize that this was not an established fact.  My FiL is Australian, and his response to Australians blatantly cheating is "that is how the game is played."  He's not even defensive when he says it - he presents it in the same dead tones you would rattle off someone's home phone number.  Now, when "Pakis" complain about the cheating - then he is up in arms, demanding the uppity brown people (btw, the English are also uppity brown people) be punished, if not imprisoned, for the unforgivable sin of expecting rules to apply to Australia.

/I have thoroughly enjoyed this Ashes, since I can rub his nose in it next time I am forced into his presence
//My one complaint for WWI is that the British didn't continue the Battle of Gallipoli until they depopulated that wretched hive of scum and villainy called Australia
//Actually "wretched hive of scum and villainy" ascribes too much competency and usefulness to those useless wastes of carbon
 
2013-08-25 09:40:18 PM

phalamir: Norfolking Chance: The funny thing is how Lehman came out and said he coaches people to cheat.

I didn't realize that this was not an established fact.  My FiL is Australian, and his response to Australians blatantly cheating is "that is how the game is played."  He's not even defensive when he says it - he presents it in the same dead tones you would rattle off someone's home phone number.  Now, when "Pakis" complain about the cheating - then he is up in arms, demanding the uppity brown people (btw, the English are also uppity brown people) be punished, if not imprisoned, for the unforgivable sin of expecting rules to apply to Australia.

/I have thoroughly enjoyed this Ashes, since I can rub his nose in it next time I am forced into his presence
//My one complaint for WWI is that the British didn't continue the Battle of Gallipoli until they depopulated that wretched hive of scum and villainy called Australia
//Actually "wretched hive of scum and villainy" ascribes too much competency and usefulness to those useless wastes of carbon


It did use to be at least debated down here (see: Adam Gilchrist walking).

Also, based on the evidence I've seen at Bondi, aren't the British uppity red, scabbing people?
 
2013-08-26 09:54:37 AM

phalamir: //My one complaint for WWI is that the British didn't continue the Battle of Gallipoli until they depopulated that wretched hive of scum and villainy called Australia
//Actually "wretched hive of scum and villainy" ascribes too much competency and usefulness to those useless wastes of carbon


Wow. Just wow. So much hate. Did some bronzed Aussie backpacker steal your girlfriend?

If you said that about any other country you would be (quite rightly) reported for hate-speech. But somehow hating Australia is still politically correct... Go figure.

eg If I was to say (and I never would) that "my one complaint about the Battle of Britain is that the Luftwaffe didn't demolish more of London and that Werner von Braun didn't finish off the rest of those pommie arsewipes with his V2s", I'm guessing you'd have a problem with that.

In a similar vein, I'd guess that if I bemoaned (and I never would) the fact that the 9/11 attacks didn't kill more Americans (particularly those who live in the shiathole that is your home state of Kentucky) you'd also have a problem.

Grow the fark up, son.

Test Cricket would be dead if it wasn't for the attacking mindset of Australian captains over the last few decades. Australia has won 16 Tests in a row twice in the last 15 years. The great West Indian side of the 1980s could only win 11 in a row once. Australia has a lower percentage of drawn Tests than any other nation, and a winning record against every opponent.

By comparison, Cook is a completely gutless and cowardly captain who didn't even attempt to push for wins when his team had already won the series.

I liked the way that the the English team got together and urinated on the Oval pitch last night, though, and the way the English fans booed Clarke as he was giving his concession speech, just like they used to boo Ponting.  Stay classy, England.
 
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