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(Opposing Views)   Parents are outraged that their elementary school kids are learning about something that'll consume their lives in about two years   (opposingviews.com) divider line 146
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2013-08-25 12:23:27 PM
They spelled California wrong.
 
2013-08-25 01:08:23 PM
Teaching third graders about suicide? Fine, I could see that as being a potential issue they may have to deal with. Masturbation or anything relating to sex? Yeah, these are not issues that are of relevence to eight year olds (or at least SHOULDN'T be). What purpose does it serve to teach it to them? I remember in fifth grade both HIV education and Drug awareness were part of the curriculum. This is a school of suburban white kids, not a minority face to be found. HIV and Drugs were not problems we were likely going to face for many more years, if ever. And if the day ever came that we were confronted with those issues, we sure as hell weren't going to have flashbacks to fifth grade when it came time to decide whether or wear that condom or use that needle.
 
2013-08-25 01:30:48 PM

spman: Teaching third graders about suicide? Fine, I could see that as being a potential issue they may have to deal with


What kind of horrible childhood did you have?

I think for sex and drugs it's about getting the brainwashing in early.  You're impressionable enough at that age that a police officer coming to your school telling you drugs are bad makes a difference that lasts.

/ My school did DARE in 5th grade.  I knew of a couple kids experimenting with pot in 6th.
 
2013-08-25 01:31:02 PM
Consume as in fill up, or use up?
 
2013-08-25 01:31:50 PM
Buttsex?
 
2013-08-25 01:31:57 PM

spman: Teaching third graders about suicide? Fine, I could see that as being a potential issue they may have to deal with. Masturbation or anything relating to sex? Yeah, these are not issues that are of relevence to eight year olds (or at least SHOULDN'T be). What purpose does it serve to teach it to them? I remember in fifth grade both HIV education and Drug awareness were part of the curriculum. This is a school of suburban white kids, not a minority face to be found. HIV and Drugs were not problems we were likely going to face for many more years, if ever. And if the day ever came that we were confronted with those issues, we sure as hell weren't going to have flashbacks to fifth grade when it came time to decide whether or wear that condom or use that needle.


you're trying too hard
 
2013-08-25 01:32:29 PM
Maturbation, eh? That's a hard one to talk about...
 
2013-08-25 01:33:07 PM
I'd let the teacher in that stock pic teach me a few thing, if you know what I'm saying...

/biology
//totes doin' it right.
 
2013-08-25 01:33:21 PM
Bewbies?
 
2013-08-25 01:33:57 PM
Fark.com?
 
2013-08-25 01:33:58 PM
In my late 30s and still don't know anything about anal intercourse. Love being just a little bit innocent.
 
2013-08-25 01:36:07 PM
We should really stick to this system we got goin, where we treat kids like little fragile angels who cant stand hearing about societal issues or learning about the good bad and the ugly about our country and culture. As far as I can tell, thats been working out great so far.
 
2013-08-25 01:36:31 PM
So basically the school district made a handbook so that teachers would know how to respond age appropriately when kids ask questions about "adult" topics.

Cue the outrage.
 
2013-08-25 01:37:41 PM
The handbook says that students will "be encouraged to talk to parents in order to help them develop their own values and beliefs about masturbation."

Ew.
 
2013-08-25 01:37:47 PM
I learnt to jek off fine on my own.
 
2013-08-25 01:38:39 PM
Aaaaand of course the article itself says nothing about parental outrage, it's part of the dialog subby is hosting in his/her head. Welcome to Fark, it's not news it's making shiat up.
 
2013-08-25 01:39:18 PM
So they're gonna teach third grade girls masturbation?  Isn't that a felony?
 
2013-08-25 01:40:02 PM
nope. third grade is way too young for this "curriculum".

/also DARE (aka Drugs Are Really Excellent)
 
2013-08-25 01:40:29 PM

serial_crusher: spman: Teaching third graders about suicide? Fine, I could see that as being a potential issue they may have to deal with

What kind of horrible childhood did you have?

I think for sex and drugs it's about getting the brainwashing in early.  You're impressionable enough at that age that a police officer coming to your school telling you drugs are bad makes a difference that lasts.

/ My school did DARE in 5th grade.  I knew of a couple kids experimenting with pot in 6th.


In the sense that even children deal with depression, and are aware of the concept of death and the permanence of it, I could see suicide being an issue children might deal with. On the other hand, unless you live in an abusive household with absent or neglectful parents, no normal kids under the age of maybe 12 is dealing with sex and drugs, and by the time they do, fifth grade is going to be nothing but a fleeting memory.
 
2013-08-25 01:40:32 PM
Teaching third grade students about masturbation, suicide and other sensitive topics

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2013-08-25 01:44:09 PM
Sad I didn't get any instruction in school about how employers will screw you over at every instance they can. That's more important life lessons to me.
 
2013-08-25 01:45:40 PM
At least they wait until middle school to teach them about flogging, rimming and edging.
 
2013-08-25 01:46:27 PM

spman: serial_crusher: spman: Teaching third graders about suicide? Fine, I could see that as being a potential issue they may have to deal with

What kind of horrible childhood did you have?

I think for sex and drugs it's about getting the brainwashing in early.  You're impressionable enough at that age that a police officer coming to your school telling you drugs are bad makes a difference that lasts.

/ My school did DARE in 5th grade.  I knew of a couple kids experimenting with pot in 6th.

In the sense that even children deal with depression, and are aware of the concept of death and the permanence of it, I could see suicide being an issue children might deal with. On the other hand, unless you live in an abusive household with absent or neglectful parents, no normal kids under the age of maybe 12 is dealing with sex and drugs, and by the time they do, fifth grade is going to be nothing but a fleeting memory.


It is not unusual, and certainly not abnormal, for children to masturbate in kindergarten or early elementary school.
 
2013-08-25 01:48:48 PM
How else will predatory teachers be able to pick out the vulnerable so that they can rape the kids?
 
2013-08-25 01:49:01 PM
If you masturbate, while cutting oxygen to yourself, you get an amazing high at climax, kids.
 
2013-08-25 01:49:56 PM

jjorsett: Aaaaand of course the article itself says nothing about parental outrage, it's part of the dialog subby is hosting in his/her head. Welcome to Fark, it's not news it's making shiat up.


The point of the programs t teach this stuff is more sinister than just teaching masturbation. We all start at about the same point mentally in our inhibitions....we dont like to talk or think about things because we're raised by our parents and other adults and the generational divide makes us uncomfortable discussing sex and death with our parents. But in order to get us to a point where we are ok with many political advocacy positions, our inhibitions need to be broken down as quickly as possible.Hence the push to introduce many adult, moral, and ethical advocacy positions into elementary school.....well before children are prepared on their own to seek out that information.

The example would be... It took me many years to be comfortable around homosexuals....not because I was phobic, but because as a teenager I had to deal with my own shyness around sexual issues. I had to become comfortable around my own sexuality then around girls, then around couples then around gay men. Its a learning process and it can be applied to all political issues. But it is important to one group of advocates that people like me be prepared to march for gay rights directly out of high school. So they want these issues pushed onto children years before they are comfortable exploring them naturally. 

To paraphrase someone else's comment that I cannot find now..... a man teaching an 8 year old girl how to have sex and masturbate would go to jail....but a teacher doing the same thing in the name of destroying that childs inhibitions with respect to gay sex is considered a social advocate and an open minded person.

Just let the kids mature normally, they will form comfort levels with various uncomfortable issues in due time.
 
2013-08-25 01:52:09 PM

Talondel: spman: serial_crusher: spman: Teaching third graders about suicide? Fine, I could see that as being a potential issue they may have to deal with

What kind of horrible childhood did you have?

I think for sex and drugs it's about getting the brainwashing in early.  You're impressionable enough at that age that a police officer coming to your school telling you drugs are bad makes a difference that lasts.

/ My school did DARE in 5th grade.  I knew of a couple kids experimenting with pot in 6th.

In the sense that even children deal with depression, and are aware of the concept of death and the permanence of it, I could see suicide being an issue children might deal with. On the other hand, unless you live in an abusive household with absent or neglectful parents, no normal kids under the age of maybe 12 is dealing with sex and drugs, and by the time they do, fifth grade is going to be nothing but a fleeting memory.

It is not unusual, and certainly not abnormal, for children to masturbate in kindergarten or early elementary school.


Yet when I masturbate in the elementary school, I get arrested and thrown in jail.  Nice double standard.
 
2013-08-25 01:52:25 PM

Talondel: spman: serial_crusher: spman: Teaching third graders about suicide? Fine, I could see that as being a potential issue they may have to deal with

What kind of horrible childhood did you have?

I think for sex and drugs it's about getting the brainwashing in early.  You're impressionable enough at that age that a police officer coming to your school telling you drugs are bad makes a difference that lasts.

/ My school did DARE in 5th grade.  I knew of a couple kids experimenting with pot in 6th.

In the sense that even children deal with depression, and are aware of the concept of death and the permanence of it, I could see suicide being an issue children might deal with. On the other hand, unless you live in an abusive household with absent or neglectful parents, no normal kids under the age of maybe 12 is dealing with sex and drugs, and by the time they do, fifth grade is going to be nothing but a fleeting memory.

It is not unusual, and certainly not abnormal, for children to masturbate in kindergarten or early elementary school.


Yes, but at that age it doesn't require any further discussion beyond "Stop that, it's inapropriate to do those things in public".
 
2013-08-25 01:53:55 PM
I masturbate at a 4th grade level.
 
2013-08-25 01:54:29 PM
 
2013-08-25 01:54:33 PM
Is maturbation a specialized technique?
 
2013-08-25 01:57:34 PM

Nuclear Monk: Is maturbation a specialized technique?


That portion is covered in the high school AP class on it.
 
2013-08-25 01:58:37 PM
As soon as I saw the phrase "... according to Fox News" I knew something was being exaggerated and something else distorted for the right-wing masturbatory benefit of the Fox News audience.

Next!
 
2013-08-25 02:02:41 PM
Yesterday my 12yo daughter and I were driving into town for something and she was telling me about this novel she was reading where "the girl put her mouth on the boy's [yatchee].  That's disgusting.  They call it a blow job".  Three sudden lanes of traffic later and trying to dry the coffee I spilled all over myself, I almost passed out.

I was not ready for that conversation/thought process/exposure for another oh 6 years or so.

/6th grade was such a revelation for her.  It's killing me.
 
2013-08-25 02:03:38 PM
I'm sure all of these degenerate sex ed teachers get off on thinking about children thinking about masturbation.
 
2013-08-25 02:06:01 PM

huchipapa: Yesterday my 12yo daughter and I were driving into town for something and she was telling me about this novel she was reading where "the girl put her mouth on the boy's [yatchee].  That's disgusting.  They call it a blow job".  Three sudden lanes of traffic later and trying to dry the coffee I spilled all over myself, I almost passed out.
I was not ready for that conversation/thought process/exposure for another oh 6 years or so.


So your daughter is giving boys BJs already?!!

/also not looking forward to my daughter becoming a teenager, but I have years to go before I need to buy a shotgun
 
2013-08-25 02:09:42 PM

huchipapa: Yesterday my 12yo daughter and I were driving into town for something and she was telling me about this novel she was reading where "the girl put her mouth on the boy's [yatchee].  That's disgusting.  They call it a blow job".  Three sudden lanes of traffic later and trying to dry the coffee I spilled all over myself, I almost passed out.

I was not ready for that conversation/thought process/exposure for another oh 6 years or so.

/6th grade was such a revelation for her.  It's killing me.


You'll get over it.
 
2013-08-25 02:09:42 PM
Maturbation - noun
              1.  to make a conscious attempt to not mature
              2.  to simulate a spoiled rotten little brat

ie.  He has turned maturbation into an art form.
 
2013-08-25 02:10:27 PM

Satanus Maximus: Maturbation, eh? That's a hard one to talk about...


Maturbation - be the MATUR of your own domain.
farm1.static.flickr.com
/hot like 'mater baters
 
2013-08-25 02:10:37 PM
Here in Georgia, Uncle Steve teaches us about masterbation.
 
2013-08-25 02:14:04 PM
Ponies?

srsly, lil gurlz luv ponies
 
2013-08-25 02:15:27 PM

huchipapa: Yesterday my 12yo daughter and I were driving into town for something and she was telling me about this novel she was reading where "the girl put her mouth on the boy's [yatchee].


It's called a "penis. "
 
2013-08-25 02:17:07 PM
Now remember Billy, don't death grip it, no vajayjay is tighter than a death grip, and you'll never get off. 
This goes to you too ladies.
/also gives a whole new meaning to 'show your work'
 
2013-08-25 02:17:52 PM

legion_of_doo: huchipapa: Yesterday my 12yo daughter and I were driving into town for something and she was telling me about this novel she was reading where "the girl put her mouth on the boy's [yatchee].  That's disgusting.  They call it a blow job".  Three sudden lanes of traffic later and trying to dry the coffee I spilled all over myself, I almost passed out.
I was not ready for that conversation/thought process/exposure for another oh 6 years or so.

So your daughter is giving boys BJs already?!!

/also not looking forward to my daughter becoming a teenager, but I have years to go before I need to buy a shotgun


Just resign yourself to the fact that your children will have sex.

Probably with someone that you don't like.

And this is normal.
 
2013-08-25 02:23:14 PM
Well, some sex ed is certainly relevant at that age (girls can start menstruation at a young age). As long as they divided up the classroom boys/girls and the girls have a female teacher and the boys a male teacher...what's the problem? Masturbation, lots of kids younger than school age do that. Just tell them it's normal, and do that alone and move on to the next topic. What a bunch of prudes!
 
2013-08-25 02:28:54 PM

rkiller1: So they're gonna teach third grade girls masturbation?  Isn't that a felony?


Apparently the State is invoking the right of Prima Nocta.
 
2013-08-25 02:29:20 PM

haolegirl: the girls have a female teacher and the boys a male teacher


Is this still cool if the teachers are homosexuals?

Just curious.
 
2013-08-25 02:36:12 PM

haolegirl: As long as they divided up the classroom boys/girls and the girls have a female teacher and the boys a male teacher...


I still don't get why boys and girls needed to learn these things separately. I wonder what a society would be like if everyone was just honest and open about sexuality, and sex... like Sweden?
 
2013-08-25 02:36:35 PM
So they're gonna teach third grade girls masturbation?  Isn't that a felony?

Fano: Apparently the State is invoking the right of Prima Nocta.


Heh. Good one.

/the problem with elementary schools is that they're full of children...
 
2013-08-25 02:40:53 PM

special20: haolegirl: As long as they divided up the classroom boys/girls and the girls have a female teacher and the boys a male teacher...

I still don't get why boys and girls needed to learn these things separately. I wonder what a society would be like if everyone was just honest and open about sexuality, and sex... like Sweden?


In this country? There's not enough tax dollars in the world to support all those single mothers.
 
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