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2013-08-25 09:46:37 AM  
What's wrong with Pandora?
 
2013-08-25 10:14:41 AM  

rooftop235: What's wrong with Pandora?


You mean besides the cap on usage? Not much wrong in my opinion.
 
2013-08-25 11:24:59 AM  

vudutek: rooftop235: What's wrong with Pandora?

You mean besides the cap on usage? Not much wrong in my opinion.


I have a Grateful Dead channel that refuses to play any Grateful Dead

/that kind of annoys me
//some good music, but not what I had intended
 
2013-08-25 11:59:16 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I have a Grateful Dead channel that refuses to play any Grateful Dead


I noticed that, so do I.  But they'll throw Johnny Cash anywhere.
 
2013-08-25 12:06:56 PM  

rotsky: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I have a Grateful Dead channel that refuses to play any Grateful Dead

I noticed that, so do I.  But they'll throw Johnny Cash anywhere.


Yeah... that, too

/they also went full country twang on me for liking a Marshall Tucker song
//I don't think it used to be like that
 
2013-08-25 12:07:51 PM  
last.fm has a much better selection algorithm
 
2013-08-25 12:30:28 PM  
Tune In Pro.

Love it.
 
2013-08-25 12:34:03 PM  

rooftop235: What's wrong with Pandora?


Leaving one station on all day usually means hearing the same two or three songs 50 times in a day, but other than that, not much.
 
2013-08-25 01:18:43 PM  
www.droid-life.com


Google Play All Access is the shizit, yo.

/Assuming that being the shizit is a very good thing.
 
2013-08-25 01:25:22 PM  

Riche: [www.droid-life.com image 300x283]
Google Play All Access is the shizit, yo.



Google Play All Access costs 3 times as much chedda, yo.
 
2013-08-25 01:32:44 PM  

technoblogical: Riche: [www.droid-life.com image 300x283]
Google Play All Access is the shizit, yo.


Google Play All Access costs 3 times as much chedda, yo.


Music costs money?
 
2013-08-25 01:34:09 PM  
I have Pandora bookmarked. I haven't clicked on it in forever, though.

The very first song it coughs up: 'Planet Tokyo' by Puffy Amiyumi. In the original Japanese.

Shut up I thought the cartoon was funny.
 
2013-08-25 01:40:05 PM  
What it this Pandora and why should I be interested in her box?
 
2013-08-25 02:32:31 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: rooftop235: What's wrong with Pandora?

Leaving one station on all day usually means hearing the same two or three songs 50 times in a day, but other than that, not much.


So Pandora is basically terrestrial radio?
 
2013-08-25 02:37:31 PM  
I want to know why Pandora is so insistent on playing that god damned shiatty acoustic "Over The Rainbow" cover on every single channel I create, no matter the genre/seed artists?

Seriously, I could create a Slayer channel and it would still come up.
 
2013-08-25 02:43:53 PM  

technoblogical: Riche: [www.droid-life.com image 300x283]
Google Play All Access is the shizit, yo.


Google Play All Access costs 3 times as much chedda, yo.



Go be poor somewhere else, dawg.
 
2013-08-25 02:46:05 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I have a Grateful Dead channel that refuses to play any Grateful Dead

/that kind of annoys me
//some good music, but not what I had intended


Well there's your problem!

/ducks
 
2013-08-25 02:49:33 PM  

spiralscratch: I want to know why Pandora is so insistent on playing that god damned shiatty acoustic "Over The Rainbow" cover on every single channel I create, no matter the genre/seed artists?

Seriously, I could create a Slayer channel and it would still come up.


THIS!
 
2013-08-25 02:51:19 PM  
I love Pandora. I had the Johnny Cash issue in the beginning, but I double disliked Ring of Fire and I haven't heard it since.

My only gripe was that I put the filter on it for a party I was at where there was kids and it didn't play any Dethklok.
 
2013-08-25 02:57:54 PM  
I tried Pandora, but they put Radiohead on every channel I made. Joy Division channel? Here's some Radiohead. Velvet Underground channel? Radiohead. Miles Davis channel? Radiohead. Miriam Makeba channel? Enjoy your Radiohead.
 
2013-08-25 03:16:17 PM  
Also, I find Spotify much more useful. I think I just prefer music on demand, and I don't mind taking my headphones off when an ad comes on. I do like Songza at times for discovering new music.
 
2013-08-25 03:24:17 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: vudutek: rooftop235: What's wrong with Pandora?

You mean besides the cap on usage? Not much wrong in my opinion.

I have a Grateful Dead channel that refuses to play any Grateful Dead

/that kind of annoys me
//some good music, but not what I had intended


http://www.flvto.com/

take an hour to find the dead songs you like on youtube, use that site, create a playlist, enjoy.  Yes, it takes a bit of work, but worth it.
 
2013-08-25 03:41:35 PM  
I like pandora - have a bunch if channels set up with different styles 'liked' into them. Most of the time the music on a channel stays within what I wanted it to. Don't normally get the same songs over and over like some folks here and have been introduced to a few new artists I like from pandora tossing new stuff in sometimes.

Only really had one annoying instance - I accidently liked a song and pandora flooded that station with that bands music until I figured what had happened and went into the profile and unliked the offending song.

Easy to use, plays mostly what I like, free.
 
2013-08-25 03:48:34 PM  
I've never understood the fascination with pandora.  Like many have said an artist specific station will often never play that artist.  Then there are the genre channels where you can hear four prog rock songs followed by Lady Gaga.  So much WTF in their algorithms.

Slacker is far better, and never played the limits game.  Other than the skips.  Even then the skips will reset if you change the channel.
 
2013-08-25 04:02:53 PM  
This would have absolutely nothing to do with the change in policy.

static2.businessinsider.com
 
2013-08-25 04:28:27 PM  
I like Pandora and Pandora likes me.  I can only guess that Mr. Pandora himself is monitoring some of your channels and trolling you guys that are complaining about hearing the same song all day on any channel you create, though I suspect there's a lot of exaggeration going on.

I've got a few stations.  We're not talking about super-fine grained ultra narrow genres or anything, but I can say that they work perfectly.  I've got an 80's pop station, a 90's grunge/alternative station, an up tempo dance station, and a more laid back dance/trance station -- there are more but those are the ones I listen to the most.

The initial reason I started was because there was an app on my Roku and bluray player, where as there aren't (or weren't) apps for the other services.  It's really nice to be able to flip on the TV, go to Pandora and just have the music playing while I clean or work or entertain.   The reason I've stuck with it is because I also have been exposed to so many new artists and songs, some new, some that I missed over the years, that I've actually lost count.  Plus, my listening preference is generally better suited by Pandora.  I like the "surprise" factor and the fact that I can set it and forget it.  Then when I hear something good, I can like it, and then I'll hear it and similar songs more.  If I want to hear something specific, I can download it or go look it up on YouTube.

Recently I did try out Spotify, but I hate the commercials and that it forces you to download a program to run on the compy.  Also, it's appropriately named, the connection is spotty and finicky, except when it comes to loading the commercials.  Also, far too many of the songs I want to hear on-demand aren't available or the only available version is a crappy cover, that you have to listen to commercials just to listen.  And, my god there are a ton of commercials.
 
2013-08-25 04:36:43 PM  
Pandora on Firefox with adblock rules. I listen to old school blues every sunday with no commercials. I have to thumb up every half hour or so to keep it from turning off but big deal.
 
2013-08-25 04:42:31 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Tune In Pro.

Love it.


This

I also use some cracked APK that gets around this and the ads I believe. Never listened to it for 40 hours in a month, especially since the Google Play service started.
 
2013-08-25 04:46:58 PM  
 
2013-08-25 05:36:27 PM  

InfrasonicTom: I've never understood the fascination with pandora.  Like many have said an artist specific station will often never play that artist.  Then there are the genre channels where you can hear four prog rock songs followed by Lady Gaga.  So much WTF in their algorithms.

Slacker is far better, and never played the limits game.  Other than the skips.  Even then the skips will reset if you change the channel.


You just hear those stories or did you actually experience them. Never had that issue with pandora.

Also subby, it's a free service that's capped. Everyone (especially in the work place) I know uses it.
 
2013-08-25 06:00:34 PM  
The only issue I have with Pandora is that they only have one or two albums for a lot of bands, but that's okay because when Pandora shows me a new band I can go look up the rest of their stuff on Spotify (unless Spotify's missing them too).
 
2013-08-25 07:40:48 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Groove Salad SomaFM


Nice. I've always been partial to Indie Pop Rocks and Space Station Soma myself. It looks like they've added a couple new channels. Bagel Radio looks interesting.
 
2013-08-25 08:15:24 PM  
I love Pandora, but I gave a thumbs up to a beautiful acoustic guitar instrumental piece once that turned out to be an old Christian hymn, and now it gives me all-Christian hymns, all the time. Some of them are pretty, but I'd like un-check that particular box.
/athiest
 
2013-08-25 08:23:15 PM  
Pandora has never capped me, and I'm pretty sure I hit at least sixty a month.

Also getting stations how you want takes a spot of effort. I suspect the complainers create a new channel and think it will prune itself?
 
2013-08-25 08:37:01 PM  
As a relatively heavy user (1.25 hour commute each way daily), I noticed the cap was removed a long time ago.

My primary beefs with Pandora:

It took 4 weeks of regular use for my pandora channel to play the seed song from which that channel was born.

Sometimes channels pick the completely wrong genre from a seed song, and it's basically impossible to correct (their coding is OK but not perfect)

Occasionally it plays ads literally between every song.
 
2013-08-25 08:53:01 PM  

Macular Degenerate: Occasionally it plays ads literally between every song.


This is my main gripe. That and no matter how generous I am with the seeds, I start hearing songs I recognize after a while. The whole reason I like Pandora is that it lets me hear things I'd never heard of. I don't like listening to the music I like.
 
2013-08-25 08:54:22 PM  
Spotify is so vastly superior to pandora.

If only because I can search for an artist and it'll actually play the goddamned music from that artist.

And I can download physical copies of my playlist
 
2013-08-25 09:20:10 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Groove Salad SomaFM


Internet radio is great; I don't know why more people don't try it out. SomaFM has a great mix of stations, I have several preset on my Roku including GS. I used to play Space Station and Drone Zone a lot as background music when my boys were toddlers. I've also had Radio Paradise on there for years and it's still my go-to station.

Our TV has a Pandora app so I built an 80s station that started as a New Order station but would cycle through NO, the Cure, Depeche Mode and The Smiths before starting back at NO again. Once every hour or two they would throw in some Joy Division or Simple Minds. After I added a few more artists the variety has dramatically improved, although now my 5 year-old keeps asking why they don't play New Order very often anymore.

I noticed the "they never play my seed artist" issue with some artists, but I can't say how much of that is them being a tease or a simple licensing issue.
 
2013-08-25 10:07:26 PM  

spiralscratch: I want to know why Pandora is so insistent on playing that god damned shiatty acoustic "Over The Rainbow" cover on every single channel I create, no matter the genre/seed artists?

Seriously, I could create a Slayer channel and it would still come up.


You mean this guy?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-25 10:43:14 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: I tried Pandora, but they put Radiohead on every channel I made. Joy Division channel? Here's some Radiohead. Velvet Underground channel? Radiohead. Miles Davis channel? Radiohead. Miriam Makeba channel? Enjoy your Radiohead.


Spotify did that to me but with Cat Stevens.  At one point it played four Cat Stevens songs in a row  I disliked all of them.  Half an hour later, more Cat Stevens.  I've probably disliked every Cat Stevens song in existence but it still plays them.
 
2013-08-25 11:29:47 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Groove Salad SomaFM


Wow, didn't even know that place was still around. That was my go-to place for music back in the Web 1.0 days before Pandora, social media, etc.

Talk about memories. I can't even guess how much time I spent tweaking my WinAmp visualizations back in those days.
 
2013-08-26 12:02:11 AM  
Tried Last.fm, tried Pandora, tried Spotify.  The difficulty with creating channels that actually played the music I wanted to hear drove me back to cultivating my own music collection.
 
2013-08-26 12:05:49 AM  

Zombalupagus: StoPPeRmobile: Groove Salad SomaFM

Wow, didn't even know that place was still around. That was my go-to place for music back in the Web 1.0 days before Pandora, social media, etc.

Talk about memories. I can't even guess how much time I spent tweaking my WinAmp visualizations back in those days.


Yeah, they're still around.  I even got their mobile app.  It's the only radio station I've consistently listened to over the years.
 
2013-08-26 12:34:02 AM  
Pandoa's selection algorithm does some weird shiat sometimes.

// like playing a j pop song on a Ragga channel (where the seed song was Uncle Demon from Tommy Lee Sparta)
 
2013-08-26 12:38:51 AM  

slauer: /athiest


You really shouldn't misspell your own name/designation. It looks REALLY bad on resumes.
 
2013-08-26 12:56:24 AM  

Zombalupagus: StoPPeRmobile: Groove Salad SomaFM

Wow, didn't even know that place was still around. That was my go-to place for music back in the Web 1.0 days before Pandora, social media, etc.

Talk about memories. I can't even guess how much time I spent tweaking my WinAmp visualizations back in those days.


God that takes me back, I remember when you could find ridiculous numbers of internet radio stations. I spent crazy amounts of time listening to SomaFM, MASSinova Project, etc. SomaFM is the only one that I listened to regularly that made it past the day internet radio died. Those were the heady days of the internet. Many of the young kids today don't realize how wild and open the internet was in those days. I think all of us knew it wouldn't last forever but I expected it to last at least a decade longer. I guess to much money in taming it.

As for WinAmp, I remember using it back in the 1.xx days if not earlier. I remember when "free-form skins" were a big deal, because you could now have parts of windows be transparent in windows. I used to spend hours searching for my favorite skins. On top of that, I remember when the Milkdrop plugin was released, before Nullsoft acquired it. To this day I still haven't found many if any visualizer plugins that are better than that one. Then again I don't look much anymore.
 
2013-08-26 12:57:02 AM  
Hm, I didn't realize Pandora rubbed so many folks the wrong way. But since I am a habitual friefox with adblock user (since 2000, It's like a cool kid's Ultra Fark 4 digit account), I use Pandora to find NEW things. I believe that was the draw waaaaay back when I joined the beta. Because finding a song is as simple as torrenting (which is bad and I totally don't say people should ever do) or going on google search or just finding a youtube channel.

I use Pandora for background music while playing games. I cannot currently justify paying for internet on a phone. And since my commute is a whole 15 minutes, meh.

The only crossover I have ever found was System of a Down is somehow related to Lordi, which is a European version of GWAR. And all you need to do is downvote the offending band maybe 2 times, and Pandora learns.
 
2013-08-26 05:53:41 AM  
I miss my old LaunchCast station. Too bad it has been defunct since 2009. Fully customized playlist for $5 a month unlimited streaming with no commercials.
 
2013-08-26 06:31:26 AM  
Oh what's this? Another region-blocked music "service" that expects the customer to pay things we can easily get for free? Yeah, good luck with that...
 
2013-08-26 07:14:15 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: I tried Pandora, but they put Radiohead on every channel I made. Joy Division channel? Here's some Radiohead. Velvet Underground channel? Radiohead. Miles Davis channel? Radiohead. Miriam Makeba channel? Enjoy your Radiohead.


I don't have that issue, the "over the rainbow", got that issue, but not Radiohead... I have a Depeche Mode channel I have modified (80's wave and electronic) and I think I unliked Radiohead, so don't worry about it... I have about 30 other channels, who knows on those pages..
Maybe I should listen to some of the other channels today, see if Radiohead comes up

/got a pretty kickass NIN channel
 
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