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2013-08-25 03:35:40 AM  
 
2013-08-25 03:43:58 AM  
such as Beast's recent evolution from his Frank Quitely-designed feline form, to a more ape-like creature

"Cat-beast" was an evolutionary abomination that never should have existed in the first place.
 
2013-08-25 03:55:55 AM  
Lobo was already a character. Rob Liefeld was responsible
 
2013-08-25 03:57:01 AM  
Maybe he'll hang out with Alan Scott, now.

/new 52 is largely horrible
 
2013-08-25 03:57:50 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Lobo was already a shiatty character. Rob Liefeld was responsible


That'll learn me not to drink and post on a Saturday night.

Here, have some laughter at Liefeld for your troubles:

Link
 
2013-08-25 04:03:50 AM  

HotWingAgenda: HotWingAgenda: Lobo was already a shiatty character. Rob Liefeld was responsible

That'll learn me not to drink and post on a Saturday night.

Here, have some laughter at Liefeld for your troubles:

Link


I did not realize until Marvel gave away the 700 free digital #1 issues that about a quarter of those crimes against art were from one single comic, Onslaught Reborn #1.
 
2013-08-25 04:06:21 AM  
Yeah, Lobo is a dumb character, the epitome of tryhard '90s 'tude TO THE MAX shiat. But does everything this generation need to be an androgyne/twink?
 
2013-08-25 04:08:48 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: Yeah, Lobo is a dumb character, the epitome of tryhard '90s 'tude TO THE MAX shiat. But does everything this generation need to be an androgyne/twink?


EQUALITY.
 
2013-08-25 04:26:15 AM  
They left out the most over-the-top 90's x-treme character redesign.

images1.wikia.nocookie.net

Of course, the funny part was that even though it was supposed to be an over-the-top parody of 90s comic characters (including lots of random pouches), it didn't wind up aging quite as badly as the Liefeld stuff that was actually a serious attempt at drawing something cool, probably because they asked competent artists to try to design something terrible.
 
2013-08-25 04:32:07 AM  

Mad_Radhu: They left out the most over-the-top 90's x-treme character redesign.

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 462x700]

Of course, the funny part was that even though it was supposed to be an over-the-top parody of 90s comic characters (including lots of random pouches), it didn't wind up aging quite as badly as the Liefeld stuff that was actually a serious attempt at drawing something cool, probably because they asked competent artists to try to design something terrible.


Also, Knightfall on through Knightsend was a great story.
 
2013-08-25 04:35:31 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: Yeah, Lobo is a dumb character, the epitome of tryhard '90s 'tude TO THE MAX shiat. But does everything this generation need to be an androgyne/twink?


Someone missed the joke.
 
2013-08-25 04:48:43 AM  
when Lobo was a chick he was less of a chick that that dude.
 
2013-08-25 04:51:20 AM  
*than
 
2013-08-25 06:39:54 AM  
Man, I loved hook-hand Aquaman.  He was awesome and bad-ass and got more pussy than cat lady heaven.

It was the one makeover that worked really well, probably because it was combined with great writing not only in Aquaman's title comic and the JLA, but in his appearances in the JL cartoon as well.

In my mind, that will always be the definitive version of the character, a dozen times more interesting than any version that came before or since.
 
2013-08-25 06:45:33 AM  
Some of those were needed upgrades.. like Daredevil.

Aquaman.. never seen the newer look, I'm not sure I like it.
 
2013-08-25 06:47:04 AM  
This isn't the first time Lobo's image went through an overhaul. Back when he first debuted around 1983 in Omega Men #3, he was a goofy looking guy in orange and purple tights. It wasn't until his post-Crisis appearance that he adopted the Biker From Hell look.

blogintomystery.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-25 06:49:30 AM  
When did Lobo roll a blood elf?
 
2013-08-25 07:08:44 AM  
The lizard part of my brain hopes this Lobo reboot/whatever works in attracting the Twilight fans just so I can see the internet suffer.

/he kind of looks like a Dark Eldar
//why do you hate the Sisters of Battle, Game Workshop?
 
2013-08-25 07:09:09 AM  

Dhusk: Man, I loved hook-hand Aquaman.  He was awesome and bad-ass and got more pussy than cat lady heaven.

It was the one makeover that worked really well, probably because it was combined with great writing not only in Aquaman's title comic and the JLA, but in his appearances in the JL cartoon as well.

In my mind, that will always be the definitive version of the character, a dozen times more interesting than any version that came before or since.


Hook-Hand Aquaman is worst Aquaman.  Just an awful, awful, horrible thing.  Done to give an "edge" to what people think of as a boring character.   Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think.   Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch.  Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.

You know, a superhero.
 
2013-08-25 08:07:49 AM  

Sarien: Dhusk: Man, I loved hook-hand Aquaman.  He was awesome and bad-ass and got more pussy than cat lady heaven.

It was the one makeover that worked really well, probably because it was combined with great writing not only in Aquaman's title comic and the JLA, but in his appearances in the JL cartoon as well.

In my mind, that will always be the definitive version of the character, a dozen times more interesting than any version that came before or since.

Hook-Hand Aquaman is worst Aquaman.  Just an awful, awful, horrible thing.  Done to give an "edge" to what people think of as a boring character.   Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think.   Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch.  Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.

You know, a superhero.


Well, that's boring.
 
2013-08-25 08:13:59 AM  

sendtodave: Sarien: Dhusk: Man, I loved hook-hand Aquaman.  He was awesome and bad-ass and got more pussy than cat lady heaven.

It was the one makeover that worked really well, probably because it was combined with great writing not only in Aquaman's title comic and the JLA, but in his appearances in the JL cartoon as well.

In my mind, that will always be the definitive version of the character, a dozen times more interesting than any version that came before or since.

Hook-Hand Aquaman is worst Aquaman.  Just an awful, awful, horrible thing.  Done to give an "edge" to what people think of as a boring character.   Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think.   Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch.  Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.

You know, a superhero.

Well, that's boring.


OUTRAGEOUS!
 
2013-08-25 08:38:00 AM  

Sarien: Dhusk: Man, I loved hook-hand Aquaman.  He was awesome and bad-ass and got more pussy than cat lady heaven.

It was the one makeover that worked really well, probably because it was combined with great writing not only in Aquaman's title comic and the JLA, but in his appearances in the JL cartoon as well.

In my mind, that will always be the definitive version of the character, a dozen times more interesting than any version that came before or since.

Hook-Hand Aquaman is worst Aquaman.  Just an awful, awful, horrible thing.  Done to give an "edge" to what people think of as a boring character.   Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think.   Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch.  Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.

You know, a superhero.




Holy shiat, that sounds terrible. I'm really glad you liked the super friends, but stop it.
 
2013-08-25 09:06:52 AM  

Mad_Radhu: They left out the most over-the-top 90's x-treme character redesign.



Of course, the funny part was that even though it was supposed to be an over-the-top parody of 90s comic characters (including lots of random pouches), it didn't wind up aging quite as badly as the Liefeld stuff that was actually a serious attempt at drawing something cool, probably because they asked competent artists to try to design something terrible.


That thing looks like Mister Sinister and Spider-Man to me, for some reason.
 
2013-08-25 09:21:10 AM  

Sarien: Dhusk: Man, I loved hook-hand Aquaman.  He was awesome and bad-ass and got more pussy than cat lady heaven.

It was the one makeover that worked really well, probably because it was combined with great writing not only in Aquaman's title comic and the JLA, but in his appearances in the JL cartoon as well.

In my mind, that will always be the definitive version of the character, a dozen times more interesting than any version that came before or since.

Hook-Hand Aquaman is worst Aquaman.  Just an awful, awful, horrible thing.  Done to give an "edge" to what people think of as a boring character.   Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think.   Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch.  Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.

You know, a superhero.


Well like that is your opinion but most will agree that the definitive animated Aquaman was the Superfriends version where his complete lack of any ability or intelligence led to his being saved being a major device in each and every episode.  That was the role that Aquaman was born to fill.
 
2013-08-25 09:37:34 AM  
"Pete... Repeat... blah, blah, blah"

Read this article quite some time ago, just don't remember when. Seems they just reposted it and added Lobo to the mix.
 
2013-08-25 09:59:34 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: Yeah, Lobo is a dumb character, the epitome of tryhard '90s 'tude TO THE MAX shiat. But does everything this generation need to be an androgyne/twink?


Wasn't that the point? I thought he was designed to be so over the top to poke fun at those types of characters on meta kind of way.
 
2013-08-25 10:11:12 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Bonanza Jellybean: Yeah, Lobo is a dumb character, the epitome of tryhard '90s 'tude TO THE MAX shiat. But does everything this generation need to be an androgyne/twink?

Someone missed the joke.


Everyone missed the joke, which propelled the characters popularity.

/I did find him fun when he would show up in the DCAU.
 
2013-08-25 10:35:13 AM  

Sarien: Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think. Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch. Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.


I'm not going to make any comments on the "worst" Aquaman, but I also totally loved Brave and the Bold Aquaman. I'm not sure how well he would have worked as a stand-alone character, but he always made me so happy when he showed up!
 
2013-08-25 10:37:39 AM  

FuryOfFirestorm: This isn't the first time Lobo's image went through an overhaul. Back when he first debuted around 1983 in Omega Men #3, he was a goofy looking guy in orange and purple tights. It wasn't until his post-Crisis appearance that he adopted the Biker From Hell look.

[blogintomystery.files.wordpress.com image 430x570]


Who's the dude in the cowboy pimp suit?
 
2013-08-25 10:38:58 AM  

Sarien: Dhusk: Man, I loved hook-hand Aquaman.  He was awesome and bad-ass and got more pussy than cat lady heaven.

It was the one makeover that worked really well, probably because it was combined with great writing not only in Aquaman's title comic and the JLA, but in his appearances in the JL cartoon as well.

In my mind, that will always be the definitive version of the character, a dozen times more interesting than any version that came before or since.

Hook-Hand Aquaman is worst Aquaman.  Just an awful, awful, horrible thing.  Done to give an "edge" to what people think of as a boring character.   Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think.   Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch.  Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.

You know, a superhero.



Wrong on all counts.

if you had read the comics, which you obviously have not, you would have known that Aquaman had been trending toward an edgier character for decades before the change.  He lost his wife, he lost his son, a lot of his own people hated him.  Long before Peter David took the reigns, Aquaman was an angry, loner outcast channeling a lot of hurt.

What Peter David did was take that to its logical conclusion, with a trauimatic event--losing his hand--as the impetus to begin taking control of his life again.  He began pushing back against the tragedy in his life and coming out the other side of it as a better man.   He not only became a much more three-dimensional character, but a far more heroic one--one that had to battle his own demons as well as external foes.  I know in a way that's cliche now, but it was done so well on David's run as writer that its easily forgiven.

With most comic book readers now edging toward 30 years old, no one wants to read about or see a dopey,gee-whiz cliched character abortion that the Brave and Bold Aquaman was.  They want to read about a hero who is interesting and dynamic who can fight for what's right, face down his own darker impulses, and actually engage their imaginations.

THAT is a superhero.
 
2013-08-25 10:49:18 AM  

Starry Heavens: Sarien: Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think. Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch. Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.

I'm not going to make any comments on the "worst" Aquaman, but I also totally loved Brave and the Bold Aquaman. I'm not sure how well he would have worked as a stand-alone character, but he always made me so happy when he showed up!


Worst Aqua man is that Arthur Treacher fellow
 
2013-08-25 11:51:24 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-25 12:15:26 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: sendtodave: Sarien: Dhusk: Man, I loved hook-hand Aquaman.  He was awesome and bad-ass and got more pussy than cat lady heaven.

It was the one makeover that worked really well, probably because it was combined with great writing not only in Aquaman's title comic and the JLA, but in his appearances in the JL cartoon as well.

In my mind, that will always be the definitive version of the character, a dozen times more interesting than any version that came before or since.

Hook-Hand Aquaman is worst Aquaman.  Just an awful, awful, horrible thing.  Done to give an "edge" to what people think of as a boring character.   Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think.   Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch.  Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.

You know, a superhero.

Well, that's boring.

OUTRAGEOUS!


Ha!
I was going to agree with the statement Hook Hand Aquaman was best Aquaman, but that is wrong.
HHAM is 2nd best Aquaman
 
2013-08-25 12:22:16 PM  

Subby's Mother: [i.imgur.com image 600x607]


I'm not fooled, that isn't really Liefield.
1. Guy lacks a "special" eye
2. Feet are visible in drawing
 
2013-08-25 12:30:38 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Bonanza Jellybean: Yeah, Lobo is a dumb character, the epitome of tryhard '90s 'tude TO THE MAX shiat. But does everything this generation need to be an androgyne/twink?

Someone missed the joke.


IMO, A LOT of people missed the damn joke. After a while, I even started to wonder if the WRITERS forgot it was a joke.

/a little
 
2013-08-25 02:11:19 PM  

JammerJim: LowbrowDeluxe: Bonanza Jellybean: Yeah, Lobo is a dumb character, the epitome of tryhard '90s 'tude TO THE MAX shiat. But does everything this generation need to be an androgyne/twink?

Someone missed the joke.

IMO, A LOT of people missed the damn joke. After a while, I even started to wonder if the WRITERS forgot it was a joke.

/a little


i'm getting sure they forgot it was supposed to be a joke. what about the time the Main Man railed Power Girl and Granny Goodness at the same time?
 
2013-08-25 02:32:41 PM  
Harras,Dedio and that bunch are just shiatting all over DC.
 
2013-08-25 02:40:39 PM  

MickCollins: Harras,Dedio and that bunch are just shiatting all over DC.


you ever have dysentery? at some point you run out of shiat and you're drained of water so it isn't exactly diarrhea any more, just bile and dead blood cells. that's what they are excreting now.
 
2013-08-25 02:53:14 PM  

Dhusk: Sarien: Dhusk: Man, I loved hook-hand Aquaman.  He was awesome and bad-ass and got more pussy than cat lady heaven.

It was the one makeover that worked really well, probably because it was combined with great writing not only in Aquaman's title comic and the JLA, but in his appearances in the JL cartoon as well.

In my mind, that will always be the definitive version of the character, a dozen times more interesting than any version that came before or since.

Hook-Hand Aquaman is worst Aquaman.  Just an awful, awful, horrible thing.  Done to give an "edge" to what people think of as a boring character.   Brave and the Bold cartoon Aquaman had him just about perfect, I think.   Over the top good guy action hero, while still being the thoughtful monarch.  Fun and strong, covering a deeper wisdom while still being utterly incorruptible.

You know, a superhero.


Wrong on all counts.

if you had read the comics, which you obviously have not, you would have known that Aquaman had been trending toward an edgier character for decades before the change.  He lost his wife, he lost his son, a lot of his own people hated him.  Long before Peter David took the reigns, Aquaman was an angry, loner outcast channeling a lot of hurt.

What Peter David did was take that to its logical conclusion, with a trauimatic event--losing his hand--as the impetus to begin taking control of his life again.  He began pushing back against the tragedy in his life and coming out the other side of it as a better man.   He not only became a much more three-dimensional character, but a far more heroic one--one that had to battle his own demons as well as external foes.  I know in a way that's cliche now, but it was done so well on David's run as writer that its easily forgiven.

With most comic book readers now edging toward 30 years old, no one wants to read about or see a dopey,gee-whiz cliched character abortion that the Brave and Bold Aquaman was.  They want to read about a hero who is interesting ...


if i was a a billionaire (heck even a millionaire) i would pay to ensure that Peter David could write Aquaman for the rest of his life. every issue was a joy to read (i'd add Hulk too).
 
2013-08-25 04:01:33 PM  
Some of these are debatable, and some of them (Electro-Superman) are obviously terrible. And a few of them are just the "makeover" that happens when a one-shot character is upgraded into something a different artist and different writer write a full series for.

But how is Green Arrow's makeover among the "worst," or even bad? It was a  great makeover. He looks better, he's more realistic (by comic book standards), his motivations and politics are interesting, he's not knockoff-campy-era-Batman anymore. Now that The Goddamn Batman has ascended to omnigodhood, capable of destroying universes with a single flare of his nostrils, I think Green Arrow (at his best) is maybe the best non-super-powered hero. From an entertainment perspective, I mean.
 
2013-08-25 04:31:16 PM  
Ghost Rider's (Second (maybe third?) Generation) makeover that he got in the mid 90's.  It was so terrible it lasted for only about 15 comics:


goodcomics.comicbookresources.com
 
2013-08-25 04:32:34 PM  
Fraggin' bastiches.
 
2013-08-25 04:45:25 PM  

Dhusk: With most comic book readers now edging toward 30 years old


I'd love to see where you got this from.
 
2013-08-25 04:51:49 PM  
semiotix:

But how is Green Arrow's makeover among the "worst," or even bad? It was a  great makeover. He looks better, he's more realistic (by comic book standards), his motivations and politics are interesting, he's not knockoff-campy-era-Batman anymore. Now that The Goddamn Batman has ascended to omnigodhood, capable of destroying universes with a single flare of his nostrils, I think Green Arrow (at his best) is maybe the best non-super-powered hero. From an entertainment perspective, I mean.

Green Arrow needed the beard. Previously he looked like some 1960s office worker showing up as Robin Hood for a Halloween party.
 
2013-08-25 05:30:13 PM  

semiotix: But how is Green Arrow's makeover among the "worst," or even bad?


Never trust a Fark headline.  That's not what the actual article was about.
 
2013-08-25 08:13:47 PM  
THIS has been my favorite Aquaman:

nerdsontherocks.com
namtab.com
digboston.com

Flashpoint Paradox. Aquaman and Atlantis are at war with Diana and the Amazons. He's a big, powerful, dangerous man.

And he was voiced by Cary Elwes, who did a fantastic job.

If you haven't seen Flashpoint Paradox, you should.
 
2013-08-26 12:26:03 AM  

redflag: Ghost Rider's (Second (maybe third?) Generation) makeover that he got in the mid 90's.  It was so terrible it lasted for only about 15 comics:


[goodcomics.comicbookresources.com image 400x598]


Is he wearing Etrigan's clothes??
 
2013-08-26 10:47:06 AM  

Fano: redflag: Ghost Rider's (Second (maybe third?) Generation) makeover that he got in the mid 90's.  It was so terrible it lasted for only about 15 comics:


[goodcomics.comicbookresources.com image 400x598]

Is he wearing Etrigan's clothes??


Nah, just dumb design.

i41.tinypic.com


Also, even the spirits hated the new design:

i40.tinypic.com
i40.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-26 12:48:56 PM  

ZeroCorpse: THIS has been my favorite Aquaman:

[nerdsontherocks.com image 850x618]
[namtab.com image 410x222]
[digboston.com image 480x282]

Flashpoint Paradox. Aquaman and Atlantis are at war with Diana and the Amazons. He's a big, powerful, dangerous man.

And he was voiced by Cary Elwes, who did a fantastic job.

If you haven't seen Flashpoint Paradox, you should.


SPOILERS!!
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I loved the FPP, but I have to admit that I had trouble wrapping my mind around his character. I totally understand how he'd want revenge for his queen's death, but I don't understand why he would have cheated on her in the first place. I'm also not following whyThemyscira decided to appropriate Britain to make New Themyscira. 

I'm guessing that these were covered in more detail in the comics, but it was a bit of a WTF. Never the less, the overall film was awesome. Thomas Wayne is one scary Batman.
 
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