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(Zap2It)   We've had the Best Hero list, the Best Villain list, why don't we complete the trifecta with the Best Antiheroes   (zap2it.com) divider line 95
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2013-08-24 08:46:39 PM
George C. Scott's "Patton"
 
2013-08-24 08:48:22 PM
 
2013-08-24 08:51:39 PM
Ker Avon, from Blake's Seven.
 
2013-08-24 08:55:10 PM
Veronica Mars - lets face it, She aided and abetted a kidnapping, breaking and entering, theft, blackmail  had close ties to a leader of a criminal biker gang who'd help her now and then.  She manipulated guys who liked her into doing things that got them in trouble. Like that copper guy. She lied to her dad all of the time. Wasn't much of a friend to Wallace for a long while. She got the truth no matter how many people that would hurt a long the way.
She had many heroic qualities too.I think Veronica Mars should be on this list.
 
2013-08-24 08:57:03 PM
Other notable anti heroesRaylan Givens from Justified.Lionel Luthor from SmallvilleMulder from The X FilesWalter Bishop from FringeJohn Locke from LostPatty Hughes from Damages.
 
2013-08-24 09:14:38 PM
Al Swearengen should be on this list instead of the villian list.
 
2013-08-24 09:16:27 PM
Wolverine
Punisher
Present day Cyclops
 
2013-08-24 09:17:39 PM

donnielove: Al Swearengen should be on this list instead of the villian list.


People only remember the Al from the start who'd kill over a land claim. They forget that he turned into the camp protectorate.
 
2013-08-24 09:24:24 PM
I admit I watched only the first couple seasons of Battlestar Galactica, but how does Starbuck count as an antihero?
 
2013-08-24 09:29:05 PM
Pretty much the entire crew of Firefly.
 Pretty much the entire crew in Farscape, and Crais.


Pretty much the entire crew of Lexx.

River Song.
 
2013-08-24 09:33:37 PM
The man with no name....or pretty much Clint Eastwood in any western, heck in most of his roles.
 
2013-08-24 09:33:54 PM

ryant123: I admit I watched only the first couple seasons of Battlestar Galactica, but how does Starbuck count as an antihero?


She drinks too much, she has a problem with authority, farks whoever she feels like even if that person is in a relationship, and starts the occasional fight. Despite it all she's the best pilot in the fleet and saves everyone's asses. You should have seen enough in the first few seasons to figure that much out. I won't give away the details of how she ends up being the deus ex machina of the show.
 
2013-08-24 09:36:35 PM
Hawkeye was an alcoholic?
 
2013-08-24 09:49:28 PM

ontariolightning: Veronica Mars - lets face it, She aided and abetted a kidnapping, breaking and entering, theft, blackmail  had close ties to a leader of a criminal biker gang who'd help her now and then.  She manipulated guys who liked her into doing things that got them in trouble. Like that copper guy. She lied to her dad all of the time. Wasn't much of a friend to Wallace for a long while. She got the truth no matter how many people that would hurt a long the way.
She had many heroic qualities too.I think Veronica Mars should be on this list.


An antihero is not just a hero who does bad things.  An antihero is a villain who just happens to be the POV character.  The list messes this up about a half dozen times (Jack Bauer, Starbuck, and Tim Riggins off the top of my head).  The defining feature of an antihero is that they have no heroic qualities.  Even if they do bad things in the service of good, they're still heroic.
 
2013-08-24 09:51:38 PM
Rosarch.
 
2013-08-24 09:51:49 PM
and also
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Kerr Avon, Blake's 7
 
2013-08-24 09:56:15 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-24 09:58:22 PM

bass555: Hawkeye was an alcoholic?


He slept next to his still and pretty much drank the product of that still whenever he wasn't in the OR.
 
2013-08-24 09:58:44 PM
By the later seasons of ST:TNG, Q made a good anti-hero
 
2013-08-24 09:59:29 PM
List fails without Omar.

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2013-08-24 10:14:29 PM
Riddick
 
2013-08-24 10:20:49 PM
Thomas Covenant
 
2013-08-24 10:21:46 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-24 10:23:37 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

MENDEZ: Hey hombre! My compliments on your shooting!
RUSSELL: Well, I'd have done better, but you moved.
MENDEZ: You can be sure I move! What, you prefer them tied to a tree?
RUSSELL: That'd be nice.
 
2013-08-24 10:27:58 PM
Antipasta

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2013-08-24 10:28:21 PM
wa? Hawkeye an anti-hero? the guy who practially always does the right thing, is a fantastic surgeon, has saved thousands of lives, and stands up for sanity in an insane world? Because he has a mental breakdown and drinks?
 
2013-08-24 10:42:56 PM

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I thought Thomas Raith had black hair though.
 
2013-08-24 10:57:22 PM
Since books have been brought up, Gerald Tarrant from C.S. Friedman's Coldfire trilogy
 
2013-08-24 11:06:12 PM
List didn't really understand what an anti-hero is.

Whatever.
 
2013-08-24 11:06:44 PM

ryant123: I admit I watched only the first couple seasons of Battlestar Galactica, but how does Starbuck count as an antihero?


The authors definition of anti-hero was a bit liberal. any hero with the slightest depth counted.
 
2013-08-24 11:16:54 PM

ryant123: I admit I watched only the first couple seasons of Battlestar Galactica, but how does Starbuck count as an antihero?


She doesn't. Baltar would be a better example.
 
2013-08-24 11:28:44 PM
Missing Patty Hughes from Damages. Best stuff Glenn Close has done.

Also, thanks for reminding me about Lost. The crappiness of the final episodes will haunt me forever. All of those seasons...for THAT? I mean, the whole "purgatory" thing had sh*t to do with anything on the show before it...they could have used the exact same twist on literally any show and it would be no less relevant to the overall plot. It's like the writers started down this one path for something cool, found out they were being cancelled, and then just said "awww f*ck it...let's just say it's purgatory...the end".

F*ckers.
 
2013-08-24 11:45:12 PM

CptnSpldng: Funbags: [i.imgur.com image 510x700]

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I thought Thomas Raith had black hair though.


I can't believe someone else thought of Thomas when they saw that, too. Thank you!

/ and yes, Thomas has dark hair like his half-brother.
 
2013-08-24 11:45:33 PM

Egalitarian: and also
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Kerr Avon, Blake's 7


Thank you.

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A good anti-hero should actually KILL the hero.
 
2013-08-24 11:48:57 PM
Dear Author:

An Anti-Hero isn't just a hero who acts grumpy.

Now THIS is a real Anti-Hero:

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2013-08-24 11:49:38 PM
rindastartrekds9.files.wordpress.com

www.adventuresinpoortaste.com
 
2013-08-25 12:01:27 AM

eaglepuss: CptnSpldng: Funbags: [i.imgur.com image 510x700]

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I thought Thomas Raith had black hair though.

I can't believe someone else thought of Thomas when they saw that, too. Thank you!

/ and yes, Thomas has dark hair like his half-brother.


I thought it was Elric of Melniboné.

/Melniboney
 
2013-08-25 12:05:09 AM
blog.zap2it.com
 
2013-08-25 12:16:25 AM

JasonOfOrillia: eaglepuss: CptnSpldng: Funbags: [i.imgur.com image 510x700]

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I thought Thomas Raith had black hair though.

I can't believe someone else thought of Thomas when they saw that, too. Thank you!

/ and yes, Thomas has dark hair like his half-brother.

I thought it was Elric of Melniboné.

/Melniboney


"Farewell, friend. I was a thousand times more evil than thou!" StormBringer's final words
 
2013-08-25 12:16:53 AM
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/and i still think of this whenever i see Jaku Bowa
 
2013-08-25 12:38:55 AM

2wolves: "Farewell, friend. I was a thousand times more evil than thou!" StormBringer's final words



Blood and souls for my Lord Arioch and all that chap.
 
2013-08-25 12:43:03 AM
The Trickster/Gabriel from Supernatural
 
2013-08-25 12:47:24 AM
www.adventuresinpoortaste.com
 
2013-08-25 12:49:49 AM
Most heroes in a Hammett story, and the large majority of characters they inspired,including Tom Regan and Phillip Marlowe.
 
2013-08-25 12:51:33 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Missing Patty Hughes from Damages. Best stuff Glenn Close has done.

Also, thanks for reminding me about Lost. The crappiness of the final episodes will haunt me forever. All of those seasons...for THAT? I mean, the whole "purgatory" thing had sh*t to do with anything on the show before it...they could have used the exact same twist on literally any show and it would be no less relevant to the overall plot. It's like the writers started down this one path for something cool, found out they were being cancelled, and then just said "awww f*ck it...let's just say it's purgatory...the end".

F*ckers.


Actually, regarding LOST.  early on in the show's run the internet called out the producers on the face that the island was purgatory.   Of course, they couldn't say "you guys got it right, it's purgatory"  they had like 4 more years of show to do....they planned it to be that bad...
 
2013-08-25 01:09:21 AM
Boyd Crowder

Hell, Raylan Givens is pretty close to an antihero.
 
2013-08-25 01:18:07 AM
 List fails without Hell On Wheels Cullen Bohannon.

Looks like he's starting to mellow out, though.
 
2013-08-25 01:31:00 AM
BafflerMeal: img.fark.net

I know the batman choice is controversial, but really?  Is Ben Afflecks head on a stick appropriate?
 
2013-08-25 01:32:18 AM

rugman11: ontariolightning: Veronica Mars - lets face it, She aided and abetted a kidnapping, breaking and entering, theft, blackmail  had close ties to a leader of a criminal biker gang who'd help her now and then.  She manipulated guys who liked her into doing things that got them in trouble. Like that copper guy. She lied to her dad all of the time. Wasn't much of a friend to Wallace for a long while. She got the truth no matter how many people that would hurt a long the way.
She had many heroic qualities too.I think Veronica Mars should be on this list.

An antihero is not just a hero who does bad things.  An antihero is a villain who just happens to be the POV character.  The list messes this up about a half dozen times (Jack Bauer, Starbuck, and Tim Riggins off the top of my head).  The defining feature of an antihero is that they have no heroic qualities.  Even if they do bad things in the service of good, they're still heroic.


This, mostly.

Hannibal Lecter.  Scorpius(farscape).  Among a few others.  Those are anti-heroes.  Not a realistic dirty cop, or a hero who does good and bad things.  IE Starbuck ended up being an angel for christ's sake.  That's about as true hero as you can get.

Haven't watched Dexter, and a couple others, so I can't speak for the whole list, but several of them are very false entries.
Gritty-hero, conflicted-hero, ironcly contrived character written in place of any amount of skill as a writer-hero, does not an anti-hero make.

House was not an anti-hero, very much a hero for much of the series.  He had positive emotions, drives, and deeds a plenty, just kept secret or subtle for much of the series.

Great show, but he's not an anti-hero, just not quite the traditional / stereotypical hero.

The key part of the phrase is ANTI-.  Seems a lot of people don't get that.
 
2013-08-25 01:33:48 AM
Matt Lauer
 
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