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(The New York Times)   It seems the internet hate brigade has finally caused Breaking Bad actress Anna Gunn to snap; she wrote a big op-ed in the New York Times lashing out at critics, who hate Skyler White because she's a strong, independent woman that doesn't need a man   (nytimes.com) divider line 124
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2013-08-24 04:19:54 PM
I didn't like Vic Mackey's wife/ex Corinne Mackey. I didn't like Jack Bauers wife Teri Bauer. I didn't like Dexter Morgans gf/ wife Rita (unless she was naked)
As for Anna Gunn, didn't like her on Deadwood and I don't like her on Breaking Bad. Sorry Anna, it's not you, it's me..
 
2013-08-24 04:24:45 PM
You've been nothing short of superb in your portrayal of Skyler White on what is arguably the best damn series on TV, Anna. Pay no attention to the misogynistic vitriol from the troglodytes and trolls who are so engrossed with the show that they can no longer distinguish fantasy and reality. Live your life without restrictions and continue to hone your craft. I look forward to seeing more of your work in the future.

Sincerely,

Apos.
 
2013-08-24 04:26:15 PM

Apos: You've been nothing short of superb in your portrayal of Skyler White on what is arguably the best damn series on TV, Anna. Pay no attention to the misogynistic vitriol from the troglodytes and trolls who are so engrossed with the show that they can no longer distinguish between fantasy and reality. Live your life without restrictions and continue to hone your craft. I look forward to seeing more of your work in the future.

Sincerely,

Apos.



Fixed.
 
2013-08-24 04:33:06 PM
YO! Enjoy the money you will get from syndication and STFU, Biatch.
 
2013-08-24 04:34:10 PM
Dear Anna - Ignore Facebook. I mean completely ignore it in blissful willful ignorance. Ignore it like is was some bulletin board in a seedy and forgotten Turkish bath house. It's how to live. -Triumph
 
2013-08-24 04:36:59 PM
Anna,
Although you are correct in both your observations and your concerns, there's something you just have to realize:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-24 04:39:22 PM
The consensus among the haters was clear: Skyler was a ball-and-chain, a drag, a shrew, an "annoying biatch wife."

In all fairness, that's exactly how the character was written at the beginning.  Then she was dismissive and bossy when she got involved with the meth operation, and only now is she a little sympathetic because she realizes what a monster Walt has become.  But she's not that sympathetic, because she was so bossy she's entirely complicit in the operation now.

I don't have anything against Anna Gunn, though.  Hell, I can't stand Marie, either.  I think the show has a hard time writing female characters.  The only one I liked, Jane, they killed off.
 
2013-08-24 04:45:44 PM
What does she expect.. she farked ted.
 
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2013-08-24 05:07:16 PM
Maybe if she'd let Walt Jr. eat lunch or dinner sometimes people wouldn't think she's a terrible mom.
 
2013-08-24 05:46:23 PM
She's basically right, and she's done a phenomenal job on the show. 2nd best performance of her career, behind that one Seinfeld episode.
 
2013-08-24 05:53:34 PM

ontariolightning: What does she expect.. she farked ted.


To be fair, he did have a heated linoleum bathroom floor
 
2013-08-24 05:53:38 PM
I dislike the character, but it makes the show work....and yes, it's farked up that some yahoos somehow translate their hate for the character into threats towards the actress.
 
2013-08-24 06:04:41 PM
Hardcore fans of any show are often raging assholes when they don't like something.
 
2013-08-24 06:12:07 PM
I can't imagine any other actor playing Walter or Jesse or Gus or Hank.  I can easily imagine another Skyler.

That said, I don't dislike her
 
2013-08-24 06:13:00 PM

Lionel Mandrake: I can't imagine any other actor playing Walter or Jesse or Gus or Hank.  I can easily imagine another Skyler.

That said, I don't dislike her


Malkovich as Gus. Write it up.
 
2013-08-24 07:02:40 PM
Holy crap that's just pathetic.

I wonder what percentage of the outspoken haters self-identify as "Conservative?"

Well, I hope Ms. Gunn made millions from the show and enjoys her earnings greatly.

/Only watched the pilot-- It's no doubt a great show I'll probably get around to watching someday.
 
2013-08-24 07:04:20 PM
The problem with Skylar White is two fold. The first, and smaller issue is how she was introduced. In first episode we're introduce to the character with her nagging Walter about using the wrong credit card. It has been awhile but I think this is before she even knows he has cancer and thus what teh viewer assumes is their everyday life.

The second issue is she is a terrible communicator. She can't express her emotions or anger in an adult manner or do so in a way that doesn't come off as either childish (tantrums, silent treatment) or intentional hurtful (I fark Ted). Yes, the character is under a ton of stress and in an impossible situation but when you combine a character who can't communicate their feeling with someone who is actively working against the protagonist for much of the show you have a recipe for a character viewers won't like.
 
2013-08-24 07:07:46 PM
Seriously, the chick is cool on Breaking Bad, and she was on Deadwood making out with Timothy Olyphant (aka Seth Bullock, also known as Raylan Givens on Justified), so... critics should STFU and EABOD, kthx.

Also, for nerd cred, Ms. Gunn also voiced the character of Ariel in the Legacy of Kain series.
 
2013-08-24 07:07:57 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-24 07:08:09 PM
Yeah biatches! Misogyny!
 
2013-08-24 07:09:34 PM
Even the young kid who brilliantly plays Geoffrey Baratheon on GoT gets death threats.

There are a lot of stupid people out there and they seem to have nothing better to do than say frightening things about people they don't know. The problem is that it's hard to separate out the mere asshats from the shutins with guns who are ready to crack.
 
2013-08-24 07:10:33 PM
AMC needs to start production on another epic dramatic series-- this one about a black muslim lesbian late-term abortion doctor gay married to a transgender left-handed Irish wiccan.  The main theme could be the difficulty in her  coming to terms with her faith, call to jihad, her work, and weekly BDSM orgies.

Imagine the ratings boost whenever there's an assassination attempt on the lead actress.
 
2013-08-24 07:11:02 PM

DamnYankees: Lionel Mandrake: I can't imagine any other actor playing Walter or Jesse or Gus or Hank.  I can easily imagine another Skyler.

That said, I don't dislike her

Malkovich as Gus. Write it up.


Methkovich methkovich?
 
2013-08-24 07:11:37 PM
I have an idea: Why not be happy that the character inspired anything at all from the fickle TV viewing world?

The fact that people are hating the character means that Gunn did something right. Skylar is indeed a strong woman, and one to be admired for resilience in the face of horror.

But Walt's "equal"? That is absolute nonsense. Skylar is not even close to Walt's equal- not in benevolence or malevolence, not in intellect or in resourcefulness, not in determination or inner strength.

There is unwarranted hate towards the character, but not solely (nor even predominantly) because she is a "strong woman". It is because Walt is ubermensch and Skylar (until this most recent episode, which I thought was a great turn) is a long-suffering, sacrificing Christ figure that everyone has grown sick of, in general, within the realm of drama.
 
2013-08-24 07:12:48 PM
If only the show had a dwarf that slapped her so we could have a fun youtube remix video of it.
 
2013-08-24 07:13:52 PM
she does a great job, but I don't like the character. however, from the way she was written, I always assumed I wasn't supposed to like her, so i'm confused as to what the problem is?
 
2013-08-24 07:15:03 PM
Idiots on the Internet are idiots on the Internet, some of them seem unable to distinguish between character and actor. That being said I don't think female characters have been particularly well written on breaking bad if the intention was total sympathy and support, it's not that kind of show. Even loveable heros like Hank make the viewer uneasy when he lashed out at Marie over and over.

Personal threats against her as an actress? Morons. People who dislike the character? Reasonable.
 
2013-08-24 07:15:03 PM

Carth: The problem with Skylar White is two fold. The first, and smaller issue is how she was introduced. In first episode we're introduce to the character with her nagging Walter about using the wrong credit card. It has been awhile but I think this is before she even knows he has cancer and thus what teh viewer assumes is their everyday life.

The second issue is she is a terrible communicator. She can't express her emotions or anger in an adult manner or do so in a way that doesn't come off as either childish (tantrums, silent treatment) or intentional hurtful (I fark Ted). Yes, the character is under a ton of stress and in an impossible situation but when you combine a character who can't communicate their feeling with someone who is actively working against the protagonist for much of the show you have a recipe for a character viewers won't like.


Skylar is flawed, like EVERY character on the show.  If you actually step back and look at what an egomaniacal monster Walt is, she looks like a saint by comparison.  I have been annoyed and frustrated with her at times, but given everything, I can hardly blame her for some of her behavior.  I mean, she was practically throwing handjobs and car sex at Walt left and right even when he was acting like an asshole.

The family is financially strained, and people hate her for telling her husband which credit card not to use?  I realize that you're mostly just explaining why people hate her, but I think it's far from justified.
 
2013-08-24 07:17:57 PM

Umokay: I have an idea: Why not be happy that the character inspired anything at all from the fickle TV viewing world?

The fact that people are hating the character means that Gunn did something right. Skylar is indeed a strong woman, and one to be admired for resilience in the face of horror.

But Walt's "equal"? That is absolute nonsense. Skylar is not even close to Walt's equal- not in benevolence or malevolence, not in intellect or in resourcefulness, not in determination or inner strength.

There is unwarranted hate towards the character, but not solely (nor even predominantly) because she is a "strong woman". It is because Walt is ubermensch and Skylar (until this most recent episode, which I thought was a great turn) is a long-suffering, sacrificing Christ figure that everyone has grown sick of, in general, within the realm of drama.


If anyone could be seen as Walts equal it would have been Gus.
 
2013-08-24 07:20:43 PM

Hoban Washburne: Skylar is flawed, like EVERY character on the show.  If you actually step back and look at what an egomaniacal monster Walt is, she looks like a saint by comparison.


YES YES YES.
 
2013-08-24 07:22:45 PM

tlchwi02: she does a great job, but I don't like the character. however, from the way she was written, I always assumed I wasn't supposed to like her, so i'm confused as to what the problem is?


yeah, I'm kinda confused about this.  I haven't read the entire article but being able to stir passionate feelings about the character you are portraying is the most basic motivation for an actor; to create a real person that people either connect with or despise.  I played juror number 10 in 12 angry men, and had much more positive reactions "ie people saying they really didn't the character I portrayed" than in prior shows where I played the main protagonist.

I don't know if she goes on to make general accusations of sexism or not because I lost  when it got to "I enjoy taking on complex, difficult characters and have always striven to capture the truth of those people, whether or not it's popular.  " because I stop listening when people talk about "pursuing truth"

On a related note, can you imagine how silly Jack Gleeson would sound if he wrote an editorial crying about how people don't like Joffrey?
 
2013-08-24 07:23:50 PM

Lsherm: The consensus among the haters was clear: Skyler was a ball-and-chain, a drag, a shrew, an "annoying biatch wife."

In all fairness, that's exactly how the character was written at the beginning.  Then she was dismissive and bossy when she got involved with the meth operation, and only now is she a little sympathetic because she realizes what a monster Walt has become.  But she's not that sympathetic, because she was so bossy she's entirely complicit in the operation now.

I don't have anything against Anna Gunn, though.  Hell, I can't stand Marie, either.  I think the show has a hard time writing female characters.  The only one I liked, Jane, they killed off.


So the one female character you like is the opportunistic, controlling drug addict who blackmails Walt so she can take Jesse's money for herself. But she's hot, so it's all good.

Got it.
 
2013-08-24 07:24:17 PM
FTFA: Could it be that they can't stand a woman who won't suffer silently or "stand by her man"? That they despise her because she won't back down or give up? Or because she is, in fact, Walter's equal?

Yes, that has to be it.  There can be no other reason. Clearly it has to be the most self-serving explanation possible.  You nailed it, lady.

That's right up there with "Librulz hate Sarah Palin because they hate strong, beautiful women".
 
2013-08-24 07:27:25 PM
My mum can't stand her either, so...misogyny?
 
2013-08-24 07:27:39 PM
Saw her on DeadWood before, and really, really underwhelmed by her character in that one.  Could have offset the awful goody twoshoes love interest of Seth on the show, maybe show a bit of skin...  Instead, even more uptight, with full length gowns.

Better character on Breaking Bad, but, well, I've seen enough.
 
2013-08-24 07:33:45 PM
I wonder who wrote that for her
Since everyone knows that actresses are stupid
 
2013-08-24 07:41:29 PM
She's not that great of an actress who plays a character that isn't that likable to begin with. Moving on.
 
2013-08-24 07:47:32 PM
Hating on Skyler =/= Mysoginistic Pig

Sorry, Anna Gunn. The idiots who lash out at your fantastic work as Skyler are idiots. But hating on Skyler doesn't make anyone a mysogine.

Y'see, Walter is the protagonist. Most people will identify/relate with Walter. Since Skyler was a stone in Walter's shoe for 4 seasons, it's clear that most people will also hate her character. That's what we do because we're living through Walter by proxy. It's called science of entertainment.

There's also the "mom" factor. Skyler sounds like our moms, nobody likes that.

Again, that doesn't mean that (1) people go and make FB pages "hating" on Skyler or making hating Skyler White the purpose of their lives and (2) certainly not go on an hate Anna Gunn personally, because that's just retarded.
 
2013-08-24 07:49:41 PM
Hating on Skyler? Feh. The Marie hate is stronger, and I want to see Betsy Brandt's next project.

Loved her and Jon Hamm on "The Nerdist".

/I feel badly for Laurie Holden, however
 
2013-08-24 07:53:05 PM
Any actor or actress who can portray an unsympathetic character so well the audience transfers dislike for the character to the person doing the portrayal, well, that's a sign that you're doing a DAMN good acting job.

But no, sorry, Ms. Gunn... Skyler isn't disliked because she's not a Stepford wife. She's disliked because even before she knew about the meth she had only thinly veiled contempt for her husband to the point where the went about schtupping her boss. Moreover, if she's only a saint in comparison to the murderous meth kingpin, that's not saying much for her character. Let's not forget her willing complicity in the tax scam long before she knew anything about Walt's meth making. Or her giving that money to her former lover to save her own skin.

While people might be able to sympathize with somebody in a tight spot doing over the edge to help his family, most of Skyler's own "breaking bad" actions had nothing to do with helping her family. Not boinking Ted, not helping with tax fraud, not even giving the cash to Ted. That's all on her and ONLY on her.
 
2013-08-24 07:57:41 PM

JosephFinn: Hoban Washburne: Skylar is flawed, like EVERY character on the show.  If you actually step back and look at what an egomaniacal monster Walt is, she looks like a saint by comparison.

YES YES YES.


Walter is an asshole, but he's our asshole, and his interest is the plot's interest. Skylar is a biatch, but often she's acting against the interests of Walter and the plot, so we're all like "move biatch, get out of the way!" She is the only person in the show that knows what is going on and hates Walter for it. She starts to feed his offensive, selfish behavior back to him by wandering off without an explanation and (eventually) farking Ted. The thing is, she doesn't lie to Walter about what she's doing, she lets him stew in it immediately. I could go on, but you guys know this. The crazed fans who want to kill an actress do not.
 
2013-08-24 07:59:01 PM
In some senses Skylar holds the family side of the show together. She is certainly the equal of Walter in that domain because it's a marriage, not an ownership.

I guess I'm not that surprised though. For all the shame in being sexist, racist, and homophobic these days, I still see tons of people that can't see how they let those feelings rule the ways that they speak and act.

Denying that you're sexist just "because she's a bad actor" would sound a lot better if it wasn't in a thread about how horribly she's treated compared to the men in the show.
 
2013-08-24 08:00:34 PM
You could have the same argument that Walter is a strong man as you could Skylar is a strong woman. I think you could reverse the show's genders and it would be like Weeds.
 
2013-08-24 08:09:45 PM
Walt didn't need a strong woman. He needed a strong wombat.

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"Come Walt! We're going to Belize! For reals, got the tickets and passports and everything!"
 
2013-08-24 08:13:47 PM

UsikFark: Walter is an asshole, but he's our asshole, and his interest is the plot's interest.


Oh, I get that, believe me.  When I watch the show, I'm rooting for Walt in whatever mess he's gotten himself into.  I'm just saying if you step back and view things objectively, Walt is a farking monster.  Skylar has her flaws, certainly, but they pale in comparison to Walt's.  Not to mention most of her worst behavior comes in whole or part from shiat Walt did.
 
2013-08-24 08:15:56 PM
People don't like an unsympathetic character who happens to have a vagina, therefore don't like that character because she's a "strong woman."
 
2013-08-24 08:19:04 PM

Lsherm: Hell, I can't stand Marie


OtherLittleGuy: The Marie hate is stronger


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Yeah that lady just rubs me the wrong way. I wish there was some kind of flying purple people eater to gobble her up.
 
2013-08-24 08:35:51 PM
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I see how you could think that, however; Rocky Dennis was played by Sarah Jessica Parker before "her" sex-change operation was completed. Back then, "she" went by the name Eric Stoltz. It is a common mistake. Hope I could be of some help!
Fun Fact: Did you know that "Sex in the City" was originally slated to be a reality show that followed tranny-hookers in their everyday lives? But, at the last minute, Kristin Davis joined the show and the concept was scrapped in place of a quirky comedy. Since it didn't make sense to the test audiences that Parker, Nixon, and Cattrall all had male genitalia, but Davis didn't! :)
 
2013-08-24 08:37:04 PM

1derful: People don't like an unsympathetic character who happens to have a vagina, therefore don't like that character because she's a "strong woman."


She tried killing herself. That does not scream mentally strong..
 
2013-08-24 08:53:15 PM

ontariolightning: I didn't like Vic Mackey's wife/ex Corinne Mackey. I didn't like Jack Bauers wife Teri Bauer. I didn't like Dexter Morgans gf/ wife Rita (unless she was naked)
As for Anna Gunn, didn't like her on Deadwood and I don't like her on Breaking Bad. Sorry Anna, it's not you, it's me..


Done in one, folks. Nothin' left to see here. I'm with ontariolightning, if you don't have a wang, you can't act.
 
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