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(NYPost)   Subby is absolutely sure playing the video game "Grand Theft Auto IV" had nothing whatsoever to do with this 8-year-old boy shooting an elderly woman to death   (nypost.com) divider line 152
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2013-08-24 05:37:07 PM
That's nothing, I used to know these two kids in Highland, TX that decided to play with lightning after watching a documentary about Ben Franklin.
 
2013-08-24 05:37:28 PM

jaytkay: fusillade762: people never killed each other with firearms before the invention of videogames. And no other country in the world has access to them, just America.

Cuz practicing killing people for hours and days on end certainly has no effect on behavior.


Studies haven't shown that it does.
 
2013-08-24 05:38:14 PM

red5ish: badhatharry: This is not that complicated. Obviously, video games don't cause kids to murder. However, it should be very clear by now that  if you have a mentally unstable kid plays these games a lot, you [do not] let him have access to your handgun.

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That's better.

 
2013-08-24 05:39:11 PM
Yes. I know when I gave GTA IV to MY 8 year old, a handgun magically appeared in his hands and he started firing off rounds uncontrollably. It's a law of the universe.
 
2013-08-24 05:40:31 PM
But was she hot?
 
2013-08-24 05:42:43 PM

eKonk: DarkSoulNoHope: Now if he run over her with a car, that would be a different story altogether.

Now if he run over her with a car, that would be a different story


Thanks. :)

/I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley.
 
2013-08-24 05:42:44 PM

fusillade762: Studies haven't shown that it does.


Some anonymous guy on the Internet says, "Studies haven't shown that it does."

Case closed!
 
2013-08-24 05:42:55 PM
Why is everyone angry over this kid exercising his Second Amendment rights*?

* as interpreted by the NRA and the GOP
 
2013-08-24 05:43:14 PM

kwame: DerpHerder: kwame: People.

We're missing the important thing here. GTA IV doesn't award points for anything, much less killing people.

Yes you choose to do as much evil as you wish in the game. Such as employing the services of a street walker, paying her for services rendered and murdering her to get your money back. Maybe one day the game will just be a real to life simulation and when you get in a fender bend you'll have to stop and exchange insurance information and a hooker will give you some disease. I don't imagine many people would play that.

I think the most common experience people have with GTA is a brief period of ultra-violence and then they get bored and realize the inconvenience of retracing your steps after a police chase, so they go on and play the storyline.

The non-plot related activity I spent more time on in that game was jumping motorcycles over things.


I liked to get the FBI on me, take one of their super fast SUV and go up and down one of the main drag straight aways trying to not tail spin as they try to take me out.
 
2013-08-24 05:43:49 PM
Of course video games have a real and lasting effect on those who play them. This is why my long-dormant magical powers have surfaced after years and years of JRPGs, and I have a harem of girls from playing eroges.
 
2013-08-24 05:45:31 PM
I'm pretty certain SimCity 4 drove people to kill.
 
2013-08-24 05:45:58 PM
Huh, weird.  My video-game playing 9 year old can be trusted around firearms.  Actually, he needs to cut the grass, then I'll probably bring him to the range.  Unless he wants to play some video games, that is.
 
2013-08-24 05:47:59 PM
NewportBarGuy
I think Pong led to Jonestown.

This.
 
2013-08-24 05:48:01 PM

kwame: People.

We're missing the important thing here. GTA IV doesn't award points for anything, much less killing people.


It awards statistical points, so you can look up how many people you killed, and it awards money for missions where you kill people. But you are correct to call this "point system" dubious.
 
2013-08-24 05:48:01 PM

cubic_spleen: Why is everyone angry over this kid exercising his Second Amendment rights*?

* as interpreted by the NRA and the GOP


....and the troll and gun control weenies are out in full force today.
 
2013-08-24 05:48:07 PM

red5ish: badhatharry: This is not that complicated. Obviously, video games don't cause kids to murder. However, it should be very clear by now that if you have a mentally unstable kid plays these games a lot, you should keep a close eye on them. don't let him have access to your handgun.


Good idea. Probably wouldn't hurt to go ahead hide the knives, matches, and gasoline while your at it.
 
2013-08-24 05:49:55 PM

DerpHerder: kwame: People.

We're missing the important thing here. GTA IV doesn't award points for anything, much less killing people.

Yes you choose to do as much evil as you wish in the game. Such as employing the services of a street walker, paying her for services rendered and murdering her to get your money back. Maybe one day the game will just be a real to life simulation and when you get in a fender bend you'll have to stop and exchange insurance information and a hooker will give you some disease. I don't imagine many people would play that.


Leisure Suit Larry already did that ages ago. Sort of.

i.imgur.com

If you walk out into that street you'll be run over and killed.

files.g4tv.com

If you have unprotected sex with that hooker you'll catch an STD and melt on the spot.

Those Sierra adventures were pure sadistic.
 
2013-08-24 05:51:53 PM

7th Son of a 7th Son: At least it wasn't Ethnic Cleansing.


Well, Niko was involved in the Bosnian War, so maybe the main character was involved in ethnic cleansing.
 
2013-08-24 05:52:48 PM
Slaughter, Louisiana.
 
2013-08-24 05:57:12 PM
I'm not saying violent video games make kids into killers, but giving them to eight-year-olds is a symptom of pretty poor parenting.
 
2013-08-24 05:57:39 PM

Djorra: Of course video games have a real and lasting effect on those who play them. This is why my long-dormant magical powers have surfaced after years and years of JRPGs, and I have a harem of girls from playing eroges.


All I know is if video games have a direct effect on people like this, I will f*cking save the galaxy if we're attacked by Reapers.
 
2013-08-24 05:59:24 PM

DarkSoulNoHope: Now if he run over her with a car, that would be a different story altogether.


Or if he'd f#cked her in a car, then killed her to get his money back.
 
2013-08-24 06:03:38 PM
Gordon Bennett:

If you have unprotected sex with that hooker you'll catch an STD and melt on the spot.


Mmm. I think in that edition of the game the hooker death happens on the sidewalk and you sink down into the replacement Larry factory.
 
2013-08-24 06:06:09 PM

jaytkay: Cuz practicing killing people for hours and days on end certainly has no effect on behavior.


Right. And when I play a hockey video game I am "practicing" for the NHL??? I can't wait for the scouts to find me and offer me a multi-million dollar contract!! I practice way more than the pros do!
 
2013-08-24 06:07:50 PM
Maybe she tried to take him bowling?
 
2013-08-24 06:09:41 PM
I'm surprised we haven't played "guess the race" in this thread. Or is it kind of a gimme because it was in Louisiana?
 
2013-08-24 06:16:54 PM

hundreddollarman: I'm surprised we haven't played "guess the race" in this thread. Or is it kind of a gimme because it was in Louisiana?


I wonder how much of a tosspot you need to be in order to think it is relevant.
 
2013-08-24 06:21:27 PM
If he was playing the game a few minutes before shooting her, it really may have played a role in this.

I think people are forgetting how impressionable 8 year olds are to fiction.
 
2013-08-24 06:21:52 PM

Fjornir: hundreddollarman: I'm surprised we haven't played "guess the race" in this thread. Or is it kind of a gimme because it was in Louisiana?

I wonder how much of a tosspot you need to be in order to think it is relevant.


This. That said, a trailer park in East Feliciana Parish? I'd say these are white folks.
 
2013-08-24 06:23:13 PM

Nabb1: That said,


...seriously?
 
2013-08-24 06:25:05 PM

Fjornir: Nabb1: That said,

...seriously?

Demographically 94% white
 
2013-08-24 06:26:32 PM

Fjornir: Nabb1: That said,

...seriously?


Yes. Have you ever been there?
 
2013-08-24 06:28:17 PM
I blame it on tv shows. Gotdamn Spongebob.
 
2013-08-24 06:28:35 PM

bojon: Fjornir: Nabb1: That said,

...seriously?
Demographically 94% white


I think you misread my "seriously?" there as a request for more information. I was calling him out on some crass f*cking shiat because he was saying it RIGHT AFTER he acknowledged it was some crass f*cking shiat.

It's like looking at the person who is the race or whatever of the butt of a bigoted joke and saying something like, "Present company except, of course, but..."
 
2013-08-24 06:40:01 PM
people never killed each other with firearms before the invention of videogames. And no other country in the world has access to them, just America.


Cuz practicing killing people for hours and days on end certainly has no effect on behavior.



Yeah. Send those kids outside so they can pretend to shoot each other. Clearly more reasonable that some pixels on a screen.


There is absolutely zero evidence that violent video games cause violence. Just like violent music, TV, movies, comic books and I am sure there were plenty of excuses before that as to why someone's little snowflake being violent was not the fault of him or his parents.


Grand Theft Auto always gets cited as a violent game, but seriously, there are so many MUCH more violent games out there that GTA IV doesn't even make the top 10 list.


It is known in the media and among the general populace. It will have a much greater impact that referring toSaints Rowor a not very prominent game. Part of this is because GTA III allowed (and in a large number of instances encouraged) allowed you to slaughter masses of civilians. Something that was pretty much unheard of at the time. And the sexual content certainly helped get it prominence. This indiscriminate violence was also a big selling point for the game.


FTFA: "Those who have not reached the age of 10 years are exempt from criminal responsibility"


They should seriously promote this in their tourism literature.



That is pretty common in the civilized and even many not-so-civilized parts of the world, usually somewhere from 8 to 12. If an individual cannot understand what they did was wrong or the consequences of their actions, they cannot reasonably be held reasonable for those consequences. And, as in many laws, age is our best objective approximation of maturity and mental development so it is a logical way to establish the basis.
 
2013-08-24 06:40:07 PM
SLAUGHTER, La.
 
2013-08-24 06:41:45 PM
All I know is that it's either the parents fault or the video-games and 8-year-olds with access to handguns is a sign that our system works and is the best in the world.
 
2013-08-24 06:48:11 PM
Might as well blame a game like the Sims for causing people to murder each other.  If I got sick of taking care of one of my characters, I'd just remove the diving board from the swimming pool or wall them up in a room somewhere inside the house.  I had quite the little cemetery outside of one of my houses.

/sorry, I know it's awful and morbid, but nothing I'd ever do in RL under any circumstances, but to pixels, sure why not?
//also taught the cow (named him Bob) in the original Black and White to eat and sacrifice people.  Corrupted the one "good" pet in the game.  Good times, good times
 
2013-08-24 06:49:29 PM

bhcompy: He probably got pissed off because Roman kept calling him to go bowling


This Xs 1000000
 
2013-08-24 06:50:48 PM
Actually, it's a lack of values being taught to a little boy that leads to something like this. Also, some dope that didn't secure their firearm. I'll bet money that he lives in a single parent household, too.

Tell us some more now about the evil guns that load, aim and fire themselves.
 
2013-08-24 06:52:48 PM

UsikFark: 7th Son of a 7th Son: At least it wasn't Ethnic Cleansing.

Well, Niko was involved in the Bosnian War, so maybe the main character was involved in ethnic cleansing.


7th son of a 7th son?  Dayum that's a lot of crotch fruit from one tree.
 
2013-08-24 06:53:23 PM

specialkae: Might as well blame a game like the Sims for causing people to murder each other.  If I got sick of taking care of one of my characters, I'd just remove the diving board from the swimming pool or wall them up in a room somewhere inside the house.



Taking the stairs out of the pool was my favorite way to force my Sims to train their Body stat. If you keep an eye on 'em out of the corner of your eye while they splash they hardly ever die.
 
2013-08-24 06:54:53 PM

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: 7th son of a 7th son?  Dayum that's a lot of crotch fruit from one tree.


You're only saying that because your 'da couldn't get it up for your 'ma more than once a fortnight...
 
2013-08-24 06:55:28 PM

NewportBarGuy: I think Pong led to Jonestown.


I think PacMan lead Mark David Chapman to kill Leno.
 
2013-08-24 06:56:28 PM

Shirley Ujest: I think PacMan lead Mark David Chapman to kill Leno.


Bullshiat. All Pac-Man ever lead to was some amazing farking raves.
 
2013-08-24 06:57:10 PM
As long as we don't talk about guns.
 
2013-08-24 06:57:49 PM

jake_lex: You know, no matter how much the kid played GTA, it strikes me that it becomes much harder for him to shoot someone  if he can't get to a farking gun.


This is why we need to turn in our weapons for vibrators.

Everyone would be much safer and happier.
 
2013-08-24 06:59:48 PM
Does no one else think the name of the town the boy lived in has anything to do with it,  SLAUGHTER, La?

Come on now....Children of the corn and who has a 90 year old taking care of an 8 year old?!
 
2013-08-24 07:02:17 PM

KimNorth: who has a 90 year old taking care of an 8 year old?!


...someone who doesn't want their 90 year old any longer and knows that 10 and under is exempt from criminal responsibility?
 
2013-08-24 07:02:54 PM
Any bets on if she was double tapped.
 
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