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(NYPost)   Subby is absolutely sure playing the video game "Grand Theft Auto IV" had nothing whatsoever to do with this 8-year-old boy shooting an elderly woman to death   (nypost.com) divider line 153
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2013-08-24 01:27:14 PM
Well, that settles it then.. Thanks Subby.

/Mods, you can go ahead and close this thread now.
//LP
 
2013-08-24 01:31:32 PM
Video games or no, that kid will kill again.
 
2013-08-24 01:39:17 PM
While I have my doubts that a videogame was responsible for his actions, GTA is in no way appropriate for an 8 year old.

Of course, access to a firearm is much less appropriate for an 8 year old.
 
2013-08-24 01:45:23 PM

TuteTibiImperes: While I have my doubts that a videogame was responsible for his actions, GTA is in no way appropriate for an 8 year old.

Of course, access to a firearm is much less appropriate for an 8 year old.


Not to mention an 90-year-old caregiver. There are all sorts of things wrong here.
 
2013-08-24 02:43:40 PM
That boy deserves a spanking.
 
2013-08-24 02:43:52 PM
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Stupid American asshole.  Why would you play the murder game?  They will make you want to kill someone!
 
2013-08-24 02:45:00 PM
I think that kid was farked up long before he got a copy of GTA4.
 
2013-08-24 02:51:43 PM
It takes a lot more than a video game to make someone homocidal. It takes an actual predisposition to violence and/or homocidal tendancies.
 
2013-08-24 02:57:59 PM
I think Pong led to Jonestown.
 
2013-08-24 03:03:34 PM

Ambivalence: It takes a lot more than a video game to make someone homocidal. It takes an actual predisposition to violence and/or homocidal tendancies.


I agree, but in no way is GTA an appropriate game go a child that young, especially one that clearly has other issues.
 
2013-08-24 03:08:19 PM

Nabb1: I agree, but in no way is GTA an appropriate game go a child that young, especially one that clearly has other issues.


They have warning labels on them thanks to Tipper and Hillary. At what point is it the caregiver's responsibility, or whomever purchased the game/allowed it to be played?

I know I bought all that violent crap when I was a kid and hid it from my parents. You just find ways. Buy it from a kid at school, neighbor in high school etc... There's a whole marketplace for kids to buy crap like drugs, booze, and violent video games.

The only way you'll stop that from happening is to outright ban them, and you know the constitutional ramifications that would have.

Also, if there are older kids in the household, you've got even easier access.

Never gonna stop it. Just hope the parents or whomever catch some of it, but that's not often the case.
 
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2013-08-24 03:44:13 PM
Well obviously.  La Pierre already told us that duns don't kill people, video games kill people.
 
2013-08-24 04:05:00 PM

NewportBarGuy: Nabb1: I agree, but in no way is GTA an appropriate game go a child that young, especially one that clearly has other issues.

They have warning labels on them thanks to Tipper and Hillary. At what point is it the caregiver's responsibility, or whomever purchased the game/allowed it to be played?

I know I bought all that violent crap when I was a kid and hid it from my parents. You just find ways. Buy it from a kid at school, neighbor in high school etc... There's a whole marketplace for kids to buy crap like drugs, booze, and violent video games.

The only way you'll stop that from happening is to outright ban them, and you know the constitutional ramifications that would have.

Also, if there are older kids in the household, you've got even easier access.

Never gonna stop it. Just hope the parents or whomever catch some of it, but that's not often the case.


I think it's totally the parent/caregiver's responsibility. But, these parents left their child in the "care" of a nanogenarian and with access to a firearm, so there's a long list of parental failure here.
 
2013-08-24 04:10:04 PM
If video games influenced kids actions people that grew up in the 80's playing pac man would have spent the 90's dancing around in darkened rooms with neon colored lights munching on magic pills and listening to techno music.....ohhhhhh crap.
 
2013-08-24 04:59:11 PM

TuteTibiImperes: While I have my doubts that a videogame was responsible for his actions, GTA is in no way appropriate for an 8 year old.

Of course, access to a firearm is much less appropriate for an 8 year old.


Yep.
 
2013-08-24 05:08:07 PM
FTFA: "Those who have not reached the age of 10 years are exempt from criminal responsibility"

They should seriously promote this in their tourism literature.
 
2013-08-24 05:08:13 PM
Now if he run over her with a car, that would be a different story altogether.
 
2013-08-24 05:08:53 PM
I'm absolutely positive it didn't.

He would have just asked his parents if they could go bowling every five minutes.
 
2013-08-24 05:09:42 PM
TFA is leaving something out, 'caregiver', methinks the kid might already have some mental issues.  But whatev, blame the game, it's easier.
 
2013-08-24 05:10:35 PM
Anyone who blames child violence on Grand Theft Auto deserves to be shot several times. And teabagged.
 
2013-08-24 05:11:24 PM
After watching a game with violent themes, and then it says he was playing it. Which one was it? Were they taking turns, and she didn't die fast enough to pass the controller? I know that always pissed me off when my friends and I played.

Seriously, there's no reason (even deep down south) that this kid should have had access to a gun. He shouldn't have been playing a game that I got carded to buy in my mid 20s. This has parents of the year written all over it, not the devil makes video game players evil and murderers.
 
2013-08-24 05:11:24 PM
I am absolutely sure that playing the game was not good for the kid's mental and emotional stability.
 
2013-08-24 05:12:06 PM
People.

We're missing the important thing here. GTA IV doesn't award points for anything, much less killing people.
 
2013-08-24 05:12:37 PM

rjakobi: Anyone who blames child violence on Grand Theft Auto deserves to be shot several times. And teabagged.


I think you've spent a bit too much time playing GTA yourself, killer.
 
2013-08-24 05:12:48 PM
He probably got pissed off because Roman kept calling him to go bowling
 
2013-08-24 05:14:37 PM

Ambivalence: It takes a lot more than a video game to make someone homocidal. It takes an actual predisposition to violence and/or homocidal tendancies.


You're think "adult". This was a child of 8 who is not legally responsible for a reason.
 
2013-08-24 05:14:49 PM
Just be glad he didn't get into Saints Row.

Then he would have dressed as a furry and run around a mall on an ATV blasting dubstep and beating people with a double sided dildo.
 
2013-08-24 05:15:36 PM
You know, no matter how much the kid played GTA, it strikes me that it becomes much harder for him to shoot someone  if he can't get to a farking gun.
 
2013-08-24 05:16:25 PM
Well, they were in a trailer in Slaughter, LA.
 
2013-08-24 05:17:19 PM
GTA IV doesn't reward players for killing people randomly. If you do that, your Wanted Level increases and the police will hunt you down. Even in missions where you have to assassinate someone, you still have to be careful of the police. They're simply trying to blame a video game for this act and the writer most likely hasn't even played it.

In GTA IV, the more crimes you commit, the higher your Wanted Level becomes. At first only police patrols will chase you, but the higher your Wanted Level becomes, the more cops join in until they send the helicopter and elite team to kill you. GTA IV lets you murder people whenever you feel like it, but the consequences are there, the police will hunt you down.

Speaking of grannies, here's the Badass Granny for you.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sel29t3rr4E
 
2013-08-24 05:17:21 PM

vpb: Well obviously.  La Pierre already told us that duns don't kill people, video games kill people.


Sure. Because of course people never killed each other with firearms before the invention of videogames. And no other country in the world has access to them, just America.
 
2013-08-24 05:17:42 PM

kwame: People.

We're missing the important thing here. GTA IV doesn't award points for anything, much less killing people.


You do get cash, however.
 
2013-08-24 05:19:31 PM

bojon: Well, they were in a trailer in Slaughter, LA.


Which is a much bigger issue. Frankly, I think it's outrageous that authorities can look the other way with such a dangerous influence around our children. Violence is going to be inevitable, when kids are desensitized from being constantly exposed to town names like "Slaughter".
 
2013-08-24 05:21:03 PM
You do get an achievement for surviving with a 5 star wanted level for 5 minutes. Screw GTA score, gamer score and trophy level is way more important.
 
2013-08-24 05:21:51 PM

fusillade762: people never killed each other with firearms before the invention of videogames. And no other country in the world has access to them, just America.


Cuz practicing killing people for hours and days on end certainly has no effect on behavior.
 
2013-08-24 05:23:17 PM

Theaetetus: kwame: People.

We're missing the important thing here. GTA IV doesn't award points for anything, much less killing people.

You do get cash, however.


It's been about 2 years since I played, but I thought they eliminated that for GTA IV.

Besides, $30 for killing a hooker is hardly worth running all over town to shake the cops.
 
2013-08-24 05:24:18 PM
Grand Theft Auto always gets cited as a violent game, but seriously, there are so many MUCH more violent games out there that GTA IV doesn't even make the top 10 list.
 
2013-08-24 05:25:52 PM

TuteTibiImperes: While I have my doubts that a videogame was responsible for his actions, GTA is in no way appropriate for an 8 year old.

Of course, access to a firearm is much less appropriate for an 8 year old.


NutWrench: I think that kid was farked up long before he got a copy of GTA4.


All of the above.  Where were this kid's parents and why was he allowed to play GTA4 at that age?  Why weren't the guns and ammo in the house kept locked up?  Incidents like this don't typically happen out of the blue.  Did the kid have previous behavioral problems and why were steps not taken to deal with them, including seeking professional help?  Did the kid have a history of picking up and handling the guns that were kept in the home?  Etc., etc.
 
2013-08-24 05:26:28 PM

kwame: It's been about 2 years since I played, but I thought they eliminated that for GTA IV.


They drop cash, but not enough to make it worth the wanted level you incur from indiscriminate killing.

Any time I see a story about GTA where the reporter talks about "points" I know they're full of shiat. Granted, kids have absolutely no business playing that game, but good luck convincing parents that not every video game is for children. For some reason there's a huge chunk of the population that can't get it through their heads that video games are like movies- some are appropriate for children, some aren't.
 
2013-08-24 05:26:57 PM

rjakobi: Anyone who blames child violence on Grand Theft Auto deserves to be shot several times. And teabagged.


Go on . . .
 
2013-08-24 05:27:17 PM
This is not that complicated. Obviously, video games don't cause kids to murder. However, it should be very clear by now that if you have a mentally unstable kid plays these games a lot, you should keep a close eye on them.
 
2013-08-24 05:28:04 PM
Crotchy?
 
2013-08-24 05:28:13 PM

DarkSoulNoHope: Now if he run over her with a car, that would be a different story altogether.


Now if he run over her with a car, that would be a different story
 
2013-08-24 05:28:24 PM

kwame: People.

We're missing the important thing here. GTA IV doesn't award points for anything, much less killing people.


Yes you choose to do as much evil as you wish in the game. Such as employing the services of a street walker, paying her for services rendered and murdering her to get your money back. Maybe one day the game will just be a real to life simulation and when you get in a fender bend you'll have to stop and exchange insurance information and a hooker will give you some disease. I don't imagine many people would play that.
 
2013-08-24 05:29:07 PM
Look folks - home defense be damned, unsecured guns and kids are a farking accident waiting to happen. This kid's parents have completely failed him.

Somebody needs to go to jail.
 
2013-08-24 05:31:03 PM

geekbikerskum: TuteTibiImperes: While I have my doubts that a videogame was responsible for his actions, GTA is in no way appropriate for an 8 year old.

Of course, access to a firearm is much less appropriate for an 8 year old.

NutWrench: I think that kid was farked up long before he got a copy of GTA4.

All of the above.  Where were this kid's parents and why was he allowed to play GTA4 at that age?  Why weren't the guns and ammo in the house kept locked up?  Incidents like this don't typically happen out of the blue.  Did the kid have previous behavioral problems and why were steps not taken to deal with them, including seeking professional help?  Did the kid have a history of picking up and handling the guns that were kept in the home?  Etc., etc.


It took place at a trailer park you do the math.
 
2013-08-24 05:33:12 PM
At least it wasn't Ethnic Cleansing.
 
2013-08-24 05:33:49 PM

DerpHerder: kwame: People.

We're missing the important thing here. GTA IV doesn't award points for anything, much less killing people.

Yes you choose to do as much evil as you wish in the game. Such as employing the services of a street walker, paying her for services rendered and murdering her to get your money back. Maybe one day the game will just be a real to life simulation and when you get in a fender bend you'll have to stop and exchange insurance information and a hooker will give you some disease. I don't imagine many people would play that.


I think the most common experience people have with GTA is a brief period of ultra-violence and then they get bored and realize the inconvenience of retracing your steps after a police chase, so they go on and play the storyline.

The non-plot related activity I spent more time on in that game was jumping motorcycles over things.
 
2013-08-24 05:34:54 PM

badhatharry: This is not that complicated. Obviously, video games don't cause kids to murder. However, it should be very clear by now that if you have a mentally unstable kid plays these games a lot, you should keep a close eye on them.

 don't let him have access to your handgun.
 
2013-08-24 05:35:15 PM
Man, that kid just totally skipped the torturing/killing small animals phase of the serial killer training program.
 
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