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(Seattle Times)   Policemen: Hey pretty Woman. For your misdemeanor we'll need you to strip naked on video before your mugshot and lets just make sure your breasts and crotch are not carrying anything. Oh and don't you dare call it rape   (blogs.seattletimes.com) divider line 75
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2013-08-24 01:46:08 PM
I would have thought that would be one of the job perks for being a jail guard.
 
2013-08-24 02:43:34 PM
The suit was filed after Puyallup refused to meet a settlement demand of between $10,000 and $100,000 per plaintiff.

This ^ is what it's really all about.
 
2013-08-24 02:57:10 PM
How confusing is this?
NO, I demand to speak to a lawyer first.
AM, I under arrest?
AM, I free to go?

This is not rocket science, but we need to practice before we are put on the line individually.
 
2013-08-24 03:27:52 PM
One plaintiff, a 22-year-old Puyallup woman arrested on suspicion of DUI in April, said she was mortified on learning of the video and worried that it could find its way to the Internet because it is part of the public record

Hmmm, interesting...FOIA request, anyone?
 
2013-08-24 03:52:30 PM

show me: One plaintiff, a 22-year-old Puyallup woman arrested on suspicion of DUI in April, said she was mortified on learning of the video and worried that it could find its way to the Internet because it is part of the public record

Hmmm, interesting...FOIA request, anyone?


And now we have good reason to justify her 8 figure settlement.

Pig.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-24 04:14:38 PM

CruiserTwelve: The suit was filed after Puyallup refused to meet a settlement demand of between $10,000 and $100,000 per plaintiff.

This ^ is what it's really all about.


Maybe, but the solution would be to videotape everything in the jail and limit access to the recordings.  Then you could either disprove the charges or identify the problem officers before they cause you to get sued.
 
2013-08-24 04:46:21 PM
To protect and serve.
 
2013-08-24 04:47:56 PM

namatad: How confusing is this?
NO, I demand to speak to a lawyer first.
AM, I under arrest?
I free to go, good bye

This is not rocket science, but we need to practice before we are put on the line individually.


FTFY

Don't ask for your rights, exercise them.
 
2013-08-24 04:49:17 PM

namatad: How confusing is this?
NO, I demand to speak to a lawyer first.
AM, I under arrest?
AM, I free to go?

This is not rocket science, but we need to practice before we are put on the line individually.


I'm all for knowing your rights and making cops' lives difficult, but these were people were already under arrest and being processed at the jail. Their right to a lawyer has nothing to do with it.
 
2013-08-24 04:50:16 PM
Heroes!
 
2013-08-24 04:52:07 PM
i43.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-24 04:54:09 PM
Pigs will do pretty much anything to get a paid vacation, won't they?
 
2013-08-24 04:57:51 PM

CruiserTwelve: The suit was filed after Puyallup refused to meet a settlement demand of between $10,000 and $100,000 per plaintiff.

This ^ is what it's really all about.


"I have defended thousands of DUI cases over years..."

Seems legit.
 
2013-08-24 04:58:01 PM
This strikes me as a difficult case, legally. I don't  necessarily agree, but the general rule is someone who's been arrested and is being processed has no right to not be strip-searched as part of processing (or whenever else the jailers think the situation merits it), as part of the jail's effort to keep out drugs and, more importantly, any dangerous items. Observing someone changing is actually less intrusive than a full-on cavity search, and whether it's done through CCTV or peephole isn't really an issue.

So what you'd have to show is that they were specifically targeting people based on a lurid purpose and not concern for officer/prisoner safety, which as plausible as it sounds, strikes me as a difficult thing to prove.
 
2013-08-24 04:58:27 PM
Puyallup has become the pit of Pierce County. Picking up the mantle from Roy.
 
2013-08-24 05:01:53 PM

Dragonflew: Pigs will do pretty much anything to get a paid vacation, won't they?


Fark yeah man!!!!!  Fark authority!!!  You Rock dude!!!!
 
2013-08-24 05:03:47 PM

Churchill2004: This strikes me as a difficult case, legally. I don't  necessarily agree, but the general rule is someone who's been arrested and is being processed has no right to not be strip-searched as part of processing (or whenever else the jailers think the situation merits it), as part of the jail's effort to keep out drugs and, more importantly, any dangerous items. Observing someone changing is actually less intrusive than a full-on cavity search, and whether it's done through CCTV or peephole isn't really an issue.

So what you'd have to show is that they were specifically targeting people based on a lurid purpose and not concern for officer/prisoner safety, which as plausible as it sounds, strikes me as a difficult thing to prove.


Unless you look at lots of videos and notice an absence of fatties and meth heads.
 
2013-08-24 05:06:35 PM

johnny_vegas: Dragonflew: Pigs will do pretty much anything to get a paid vacation, won't they?

Fark yeah man!!!!!  Fark authority!!!  You Rock dude!!!!


Yes yes, direct your anger to the person who highlights the problem, not at those causing it.  Good Jorb
 
2013-08-24 05:07:00 PM

Churchill2004: This strikes me as a difficult case, legally. I don't  necessarily agree, but the general rule is someone who's been arrested and is being processed has no right to not be strip-searched as part of processing (or whenever else the jailers think the situation merits it), as part of the jail's effort to keep out drugs and, more importantly, any dangerous items. Observing someone changing is actually less intrusive than a full-on cavity search, and whether it's done through CCTV or peephole isn't really an issue.

So what you'd have to show is that they were specifically targeting people based on a lurid purpose and not concern for officer/prisoner safety, which as plausible as it sounds, strikes me as a difficult thing to prove.


No. To be serious a moment, the real issue is not that they were targeting for sexual gratification, but that the authorities did not recognize the right to privacy of the prisoners AND the videos of the prisoners. I can see the use of video during processing, both to protect the prisoner from false charges, and to protect the jailers from the same. BUT the videos should be licensed to the prisoners and not be released for use by anyone. The prisoner, then, would have legal recourse for the videos being out in the ether.
 
2013-08-24 05:07:52 PM
Man, Roy Orbison has gotten dark.
 
2013-08-24 05:14:06 PM
 
2013-08-24 05:17:12 PM

lewismarktwo: johnny_vegas: Dragonflew: Pigs will do pretty much anything to get a paid vacation, won't they?

Fark yeah man!!!!!  Fark authority!!!  You Rock dude!!!!

Yes yes, direct your anger to the person who highlights the problem, not at those causing it.  Good Jorb™


Everything was directed exactly where it was supposed to be..are you a smelly hippy too?
 
2013-08-24 05:17:46 PM

fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.


Wow just wow
 
2013-08-24 05:18:00 PM

Cairene: Unless you look at lots of videos and notice an absence of fatties and meth heads.


We'd all need to see the videos to make our own judgement as to whether any crime was committed.
 
2013-08-24 05:18:26 PM

fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.


Yeah, that was one of the more depressing Supreme Court decisions
 
2013-08-24 05:20:58 PM

shtychkn: fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.

Yeah, that was one of the more depressing Supreme Court decisions


+1
 
2013-08-24 05:21:04 PM

fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.


www.gameknightreviews.com
 
2013-08-24 05:23:48 PM

shtychkn: fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.

Yeah, that was one of the more depressing Supreme Court decisions


I agree.

A better solution is eliminating all physical contact between prisoners. That shuts off the prison gangs' ability to control the streets too. Win-win.
 
2013-08-24 05:25:43 PM
soldiers have always been soldiers.  when the police have so nearly all the leeway of martial law, you best keep your young ladies at home.  where they're safe.  this is the point of terrorism.  we don't always outsource it.
 
2013-08-24 05:27:43 PM
Puyallup police I read that as "Pull 'em up" police

s14.postimg.org
 
2013-08-24 05:35:02 PM

Churchill2004: This strikes me as a difficult case, legally. I don't  necessarily agree, but the general rule is someone who's been arrested and is being processed has no right to not be strip-searched as part of processing (or whenever else the jailers think the situation merits it), as part of the jail's effort to keep out drugs and, more importantly, any dangerous items. Observing someone changing is actually less intrusive than a full-on cavity search, and whether it's done through CCTV or peephole isn't really an issue.

So what you'd have to show is that they were specifically targeting people based on a lurid purpose and not concern for officer/prisoner safety, which as plausible as it sounds, strikes me as a difficult thing to prove.




Couldn't you say the same thing about "discrimination?"
 
2013-08-24 05:37:00 PM

Mikeyworld: Puyallup has become the pit of Pierce County.


Become?
 
2013-08-24 05:41:43 PM

Smackledorfer: shtychkn: fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.

Yeah, that was one of the more depressing Supreme Court decisions

I agree.

A better solution is eliminating all physical contact between prisoners. That shuts off the prison gangs' ability to control the streets too. Win-win.


I agree.  But isolation for extended periods has been determined to be cruel and unusual.  Though less human contact is probably less cruel then "too much" in my opinion
 
2013-08-24 05:44:33 PM
T.S.A.=toilet safety administration

south park
 
2013-08-24 05:52:12 PM
"I have defended thousands of DUI cases over years and I have never - I mean never - come across anything like this," said Egan.

lol
 
2013-08-24 06:02:03 PM

shtychkn: Smackledorfer: shtychkn: fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.

Yeah, that was one of the more depressing Supreme Court decisions

I agree.

A better solution is eliminating all physical contact between prisoners. That shuts off the prison gangs' ability to control the streets too. Win-win.

I agree.  But isolation for extended periods has been determined to be cruel and unusual.  Though less human contact is probably less cruel then "too much" in my opinion


I say let em talk. Let em browse the internet. Let them do all sorts of things. But no physical opportunity to rape and kill eachother.

Hell I would let them smoke weed too, though.
 
2013-08-24 06:03:09 PM
Intoxicated women have breasts cupped and are patted down in a sexual manner?
Sounds like a Texas wedding.
 
2013-08-24 06:04:10 PM
In fact for the well behaved maybe small group physical access would be fine too.

/hates hates hates the prison gang effect.
 
2013-08-24 06:09:35 PM
If fingerbanging a female suspect is wrong, then I don't want to be right.
 
2013-08-24 06:10:17 PM

shtychkn: Smackledorfer: shtychkn: fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.

Yeah, that was one of the more depressing Supreme Court decisions

I agree.

A better solution is eliminating all physical contact between prisoners. That shuts off the prison gangs' ability to control the streets too. Win-win.

I agree.  But isolation for extended periods has been determined to be cruel and unusual.  Though less human contact is probably less cruel then "too much" in my opinion




Bullying is and has always been a useful and necessary tool for those that demand control.
 
2013-08-24 06:30:23 PM

CruiserTwelve: The suit was filed after Puyallup refused to meet a settlement demand of between $10,000 and $100,000 per plaintiff.

This ^ is what it's really all about.


You dont think that it is about exposing an illegal practice and abuse of police powers?
hmmmmm ok
 
2013-08-24 06:39:10 PM

fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.


A conservative Supreme Court is awesome.
 
2013-08-24 06:45:44 PM
Fapping to naked chicks all day long. Time to log in and view the latest uploads from the airports. Such a hot data base of naked people of all sizes/shapes.
http://i.imgur.com/H7s0AB0.jpg

/Link is one of them digitally strip searched naked ladies with big breasts that Fark may consider to be "please don't censor our pure, sex free site, on your ISP."
 
2013-08-24 06:53:13 PM
Isolated...
i182.photobucket.com
...incident.
www.hackneyhear.com
Shhhhhhhh.
 
2013-08-24 07:21:09 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-24 07:25:18 PM
Puyallup police have for years been selectively videotaping and watching young women change their clothes and use the toilet while in custody, according to a lawsuit filed today in Pierce County Superior Court.

So they'll all be registered as sex offenders, yes?

Right?

Hello?
 
2013-08-24 07:39:07 PM
I want a lawyer and shut your damn mouth.

Got out of a case this way...they didn't give access to my lawyer. I want a lawyer...that is all.
 
2013-08-24 08:13:04 PM
Apparently there was a pretty man who struck their fancy as well, according to TFA.
 
2013-08-24 08:47:21 PM
Morons got caught driving drunk and were treated the same way any other criminal is treated- boo farking hoo. The only time I was ever arrested the cop made me take my shirt off on the road side so he could get pics of my tattoos in case I had 'gang affiliations' (because most gang bangers are 30 something white guys with long hair carrying acoustic guitars). It sucks, but the time to biatch about the laws is before they are passed. Everyone is pissing and moaning about the SC decision regarding strip searches but how many of you wrote letters or circulated petitions before the ruling was made? How many people even knew the decision was going to be made? Who needs secret courts when you can just anesthetize the population to the point that they don't care?
Oooh... is that a Kardashian in a dancing contest? Cool. Pass me a beer and pack a bowl.
 
2013-08-24 08:47:32 PM

Witness99: I want a lawyer and shut your damn mouth.

Got out of a case this way...they didn't give access to my lawyer. I want a lawyer...that is all.


Witness99: I want a lawyer and shut your damn mouth.

Got out of a case this way...they didn't give access to my lawyer. I want a lawyer...that is all.




The shutting your mouth thing doesn't seem to be the catchall it once was according to the Supes.
 
2013-08-24 08:50:34 PM
Maybe if rape was the punishment for DUI, less drunk biatches would think about getting behind the wheel after a night dancing with the gurls
 
2013-08-24 09:06:11 PM
Anyone want to take the challenge to find these tapes on the intrawebs?
 
2013-08-24 09:27:20 PM

redsquid: Morons got caught driving drunk and were treated the same way any other criminal is treated- boo farking hoo. The only time I was ever arrested the cop made me take my shirt off on the road side so he could get pics of my tattoos in case I had 'gang affiliations' (because most gang bangers are 30 something white guys with long hair carrying acoustic guitars). It sucks, but the time to biatch about the laws is before they are passed. Everyone is pissing and moaning about the SC decision regarding strip searches but how many of you wrote letters or circulated petitions before the ruling was made? How many people even knew the decision was going to be made? Who needs secret courts when you can just anesthetize the population to the point that they don't care?
Oooh... is that a Kardashian in a dancing contest? Cool. Pass me a beer and pack a bowl.


I certainly didn't know about the decision being made. Did you?  I read Fark and keep reasonably abreast of the news so I think we can put it down to a failure of the media.  Or perhaps the world works fast enough now that important stories like that can fall through the cracks despite our always on interwebs and pocket size handheld screens.
 
2013-08-24 09:32:14 PM
No pictures in the article :(
 
2013-08-24 09:49:38 PM

namatad: You dont think that it is about exposing an illegal practice and abuse of police powers?
hmmmmm ok


What's illegal about videotaping people inside a jail? They even gave the tapes to the lawyer during the discovery process. They certainly weren't trying to hide anything. I would think people would expect to be videotaped while in jail.

I'm thinking this lawyer saw a way to coerce the city into making a settlement and now he's upset because they didn't pay him to go away.
 
2013-08-24 09:50:41 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: I am sure it's coincidental that the fat ones could change in private and the pretty ones had to change in front of a camera.... no pattern there at all...


That's what the lawyer claims and I'm sure he has no reason to lie, right?
 
2013-08-24 10:05:04 PM

abfab: Apparently there was a pretty man who struck their fancy as well, according to TFA.


Yea, I was kinda wondering about how purdy he was, too. "Hey Bubba, if ya squint a little, he looks like tha model on that thar magazine in tha john! You know, tha real sticky one! Hurr hurr!"

/Hope everyone involved loses their jobs, pensions, etc.
//Not holding breath
 
2013-08-24 10:09:57 PM

CruiserTwelve: HindiDiscoMonster: I am sure it's coincidental that the fat ones could change in private and the pretty ones had to change in front of a camera.... no pattern there at all...

That's what the lawyer claims and I'm sure he has no reason to lie, right?


At this point I think the Lawyers Lie, and the Cops Lie people need to get together and realize that People Lie.  The police have just as much reason to lie about this as the lawyer does. The difference is that when people in a position of power and authority lie the innocent are made into victims.  Don't let the 1% of lying lawyers make you jaded to the other 99% right? Isn't that the defense you use for cops?  Don't be a hypocrite.
 
2013-08-24 10:26:37 PM
namatad: How confusing is this?
NO, I demand to speak to a lawyer first.
AM, I under arrest?
I free to go, good bye


What is your reply to a taser probe embedded in your skin while the cop shouts "stop resisting!" at your uncontrollably writhing body because he didn't like your attitude and knows he is above the law?

/welcome to the real world
 
2013-08-24 10:30:46 PM

CruiserTwelve: HindiDiscoMonster: I am sure it's coincidental that the fat ones could change in private and the pretty ones had to change in front of a camera.... no pattern there at all...

That's what the lawyer claims and I'm sure he has no reason to lie, right?


I thought they were supposed to use female cops for that sort of thing?
 
2013-08-24 11:27:40 PM

Smackledorfer: shtychkn: Smackledorfer: shtychkn: fusillade762: Thank the Supremes.

Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip Searches for Any Arrest

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband.

Yeah, that was one of the more depressing Supreme Court decisions

I agree.

A better solution is eliminating all physical contact between prisoners. That shuts off the prison gangs' ability to control the streets too. Win-win.

I agree.  But isolation for extended periods has been determined to be cruel and unusual.  Though less human contact is probably less cruel then "too much" in my opinion

I say let em talk. Let em browse the internet. Let them do all sorts of things. But no physical opportunity to rape and kill eachother.

Hell I would let them smoke weed too, though.


Are you Danish? They allow that.

http://sciencenordic.com/cannabis-makes-inmates-behave
 
2013-08-24 11:44:03 PM

lewismarktwo: redsquid: Morons got caught driving drunk and were treated the same way any other criminal is treated- boo farking hoo. The only time I was ever arrested the cop made me take my shirt off on the road side so he could get pics of my tattoos in case I had 'gang affiliations' (because most gang bangers are 30 something white guys with long hair carrying acoustic guitars). It sucks, but the time to biatch about the laws is before they are passed. Everyone is pissing and moaning about the SC decision regarding strip searches but how many of you wrote letters or circulated petitions before the ruling was made? How many people even knew the decision was going to be made? Who needs secret courts when you can just anesthetize the population to the point that they don't care?
Oooh... is that a Kardashian in a dancing contest? Cool. Pass me a beer and pack a bowl.

I certainly didn't know about the decision being made. Did you?  I read Fark and keep reasonably abreast of the news so I think we can put it down to a failure of the media.  Or perhaps the world works fast enough now that important stories like that can fall through the cracks despite our always on interwebs and pocket size handheld screens.


Start listening to progressive radio stations. They talk about this stuff.

WCPT. http://chicagosprogressivetalk.com/

My favorite is Stephanie Miller in the mornings. It is, as they say, "like a Mensa meeting with fart jokes." Lol

They do tell you what votes are coming up with SCOTUS (scrotus lol) and when they expect there will be a vote on it. All the shows on that station are pretty good about getting that info in there as well as laws that have passed.
 
2013-08-25 01:01:13 AM
This is done at every jail in the united states!  Every cell has a camera in it recording the inmates.  They have officers watching the cameras of the inmates all the time.  This is not news and the inmates have no case.
 
2013-08-25 04:18:10 AM

PunGent: I thought they were supposed to use female cops for that sort of thing?


Actually this doesn't involve any cops. The complaint is against the jail personnel who are usually non-cop employees.
 
2013-08-25 05:09:55 AM
Subby needs to learn what "rape" means.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-08-25 08:54:11 AM

austin_millbarge: To protect and serve service.



/FTFY
//apparently that's what some cops think
 
2013-08-25 05:48:42 PM

CruiserTwelve: PunGent: I thought they were supposed to use female cops for that sort of thing?

Actually this doesn't involve any cops. The complaint is against the jail personnel who are usually non-cop employees.


Same question...aren't they supposed to use female jailers for that sort of thing?
 
2013-08-25 10:50:53 PM

johnny_vegas: lewismarktwo: johnny_vegas: Dragonflew: Pigs will do pretty much anything to get a paid vacation, won't they?

Fark yeah man!!!!!  Fark authority!!!  You Rock dude!!!!

Yes yes, direct your anger to the person who highlights the problem, not at those causing it.  Good Jorb™

Everything was directed exactly where it was supposed to be..are you a smelly hippy too?


Are you a cop or do you just wish you were?  I want to make sure you get the correct color.
 
2013-08-25 10:56:21 PM

PunGent: Same question...aren't they supposed to use female jailers for that sort of thing?


It sounds like they have a security camera in the bathroom. They would use a female to do a strip-search, but this sounds like it's just video from the bathroom camera, not a search.
 
2013-08-26 12:24:34 AM

CruiserTwelve: PunGent: I thought they were supposed to use female cops for that sort of thing?

Actually this doesn't involve any cops. The complaint is against the jail personnel who are usually non-cop employees.


cmon cruiser, I know you have been retired for a long time now, but you must still remember that it is entry and or pasture territory for the sheriffs department that handles intake.

And stop defending rapists just because some idiot decided it was a good idea to pin a tin star on a 30k per anum mind.
 
2013-08-26 12:27:58 AM

CruiserTwelve: PunGent: Same question...aren't they supposed to use female jailers for that sort of thing?

It sounds like they have a security camera in the bathroom. They would use a female to do a strip-search, but this sounds like it's just video from the bathroom camera, not a search.


"Toilet cam for research purposes only."
 
2013-08-26 03:26:00 AM

CruiserTwelve: namatad: You dont think that it is about exposing an illegal practice and abuse of police powers?
hmmmmm ok

What's illegal about videotaping people inside a jail? They even gave the tapes to the lawyer during the discovery process. They certainly weren't trying to hide anything. I would think people would expect to be videotaped while in jail.

I'm thinking this lawyer saw a way to coerce the city into making a settlement and now he's upset because they didn't pay him to go away.


strangely enough, you dont lose ANY RIGHTS when you are arrested.
NONE AT ALL

while you might not be free to leave the station, you certainly maintain all of your rights to due process and most of the privacy ones.

sure, they can strip search you and cavity search you
but when they do those things when you are arrested for jaywalking?
well the judges and courts have problems with that.

the reason that the city will most likely settle is that the cost of not settling will be much larger.

If you dont understand how their actions were abuse of power, well, you never will.
at least until it happens to you.

it is kind of like racism. white people will never get it. (rarely at best)
/damn that was a great south park episode
 
2013-08-26 03:41:23 AM

thisisarepeat: cmon cruiser, I know you have been retired for a long time now, but you must still remember that it is entry and or pasture territory for the sheriffs department that handles intake.

And stop defending rapists just because some idiot decided it was a good idea to pin a tin star on a 30k per anum mind.


I wish I was retired. I just got home from work.

This is a city detention facility so I'm guessing it's staffed by civilian jailers. If it was a county lockup it would likely be the Sheriff's Department.

I'm not defending this practice, I'm just leery of information that comes from an attorney who stands to profit from his lawsuit. The jail gave the lawyer the tapes as part of discovery. Why would they do that if they had something to hide?
 
2013-08-26 03:51:34 AM
namatad: While you might not be free to leave the station, you certainly maintain all of your rights to due process and most of the privacy ones.

sure, they can strip search you and cavity search you
but when they do those things when you are arrested for jaywalking?
well the judges and courts have problems with that.


There are some pretty strict rules about strip searches. The dumbasses in Texas went way past those rules. This doesn't sound like a strip-search though. It just sounds like security cameras placed in the bathrooms.

If the male jailers are watching the monitors while females are undressing, I've got a big problem with that. If this is just a case of having security cameras in the bathroom to protect the city from false accusations and nobody watches the tapes unless there's a complaint that needs to be investigated, then I'm okay with it.
 
2013-08-26 03:54:25 AM

namatad: CruiserTwelve: namatad: You dont think that it is about exposing an illegal practice and abuse of police powers?
hmmmmm ok

What's illegal about videotaping people inside a jail? They even gave the tapes to the lawyer during the discovery process. They certainly weren't trying to hide anything. I would think people would expect to be videotaped while in jail.

I'm thinking this lawyer saw a way to coerce the city into making a settlement and now he's upset because they didn't pay him to go away.

strangely enough, you dont lose ANY RIGHTS when you are arrested.
NONE AT ALL

while you might not be free to leave the station, you certainly maintain all of your rights to due process and most of the privacy ones.

sure, they can strip search you and cavity search you
but when they do those things when you are arrested for jaywalking?
well the judges and courts have problems with that.

the reason that the city will most likely settle is that the cost of not settling will be much larger.

If you dont understand how their actions were abuse of power, well, you never will.
at least until it happens to you.

it is kind of like racism. white people will never get it. (rarely at best)
/damn that was a great south park episode


You were doing well until there.
 
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