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2013-08-24 02:45:17 PM
sethstorm: keytronic: In Russia's case, I think we are seeing the almost undeniable certainty that it's moving rapidly towards fascism.

No, it transitioned from despotic Communism to straight fascism in the 1990's.  This is one part of how Russia has no standing on matters of freedom or human rights - especially when it comes to the matters of Edward Snowden, someone that betrayed enlightened 300 million+ citizens of the United States(never mind the oath to secrecy for a clearance).

FTFY

Obviously, some of us don't care what the government does until it directly affects us. Just don't say you didn't see it coming.
 
2013-08-24 02:47:49 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Because "pastafarian" is a real religion.. sorry, it's the atheist equivalent of dressing up in blackface.


This I would not argue, except religion is a choice, skin color is not.
 
2013-08-24 02:51:09 PM

machoprogrammer: ZoeNekros: FTFA: They accused the spaghetti worshipers of insulting the religious feelings of believers - an accusation that, if found to be true by a court of law, can have mean up to three years in jail.

First of all, what is it to "insult religious feelings"? I assume they mean insulting their idiotic beliefs, which in turn makes them feel bad. With laws like that, it's surprising that the USA still leads them in incarceration.

You can do it Russia, keep it up. Your laws only need to be a little more ridiculous to catch up.

Hey, Canada has the "human rights commission" which jails and fines people for offending others.

One thing the US does right is you can actually offend people without getting sued. Which is excellent since many scientific advances came from ideas people thought were insane.




Unless you gang rape a teenager and post her picture all over the interweb. Then it takes national outrage to get anyone to move a muscle.

/just saying.
 
2013-08-24 02:52:06 PM

machoprogrammer: Oh they are man made works of fiction, but people really believe that shiat. They base their life around it.


So as long as you are aware it's not real, you're dumb, but when you lose that awareness and start to believe in magic, that's fine? Alright then.
 
2013-08-24 02:52:16 PM
Hail Eris!
 
2013-08-24 02:54:18 PM

here to help: Hey Christians... see this sh*t? This sh*t right here? This is why we don't want your bullf*ckery running rampant here in the west. Do your stupid retarded death cult voodoo on your own time in your own homes and let the sane people run the country's affairs. We swear, we won't lock you up or send you to re-education camps despite what your commanders in derp tell you. I know that's what you would do to US if you had the opportunity but we aren't the evil retard f*cksticks you are.


FARKING THIS.
 
2013-08-24 02:54:22 PM

Shadow Blasko: Maybe he or she lives in one of the many states where you can be denied the basic human right to sit at the side of your loved one while they are treated for, and slowly dying of, cancer because you are a same sex couple and to be considered "family" might upset the f*cking christians.


Thing is... I like Christians. Just like I like good Muslims and good Jews and good Hindus and good Sikhs and good... well I just like good PEOPLE. That's what it comes down to. If you use your faith to contribute to the community, help the less fortunate, enrich your life or do any of the other wonderful things faith can provide then if I had a million thumbs they would all be way up in the air.

What I DO not like... what I LOATHE are those who use it as an excuse to control others, to deny basic human rights, to act smug and superior to everyone else, to start wars at the expense of humanity, to do all those nasty ass things that many of the primary tenets of their OWN FAITHS discourage. Basically I hate assholes. The Christians in the article are assholes. The Christians who strive for power and who constantly sh*t on their fellow man are assholes.

F*ck those assholes.

Be like Christ and we'll have no problems. THAT is supposed to be the freaking POINT of being a good Christian. People who stray from this path have no business even calling themselves Christians. Those who manipulate those who wish to follow that path into STRAYING from that path are evil. Those that try to FORCE OTHERS to follow that same crooked path who are just trying to enjoy their own lives peacefully need to be shouted down and neutralized wherever and whenever possible.

They have had 2000 years to prove their righteousness. They have failed. Step aside. You are no longer needed or wanted.
 
2013-08-24 02:54:52 PM
Also, people seem to forget that the FSM thing started as a reaction to the "Teach the controversy!!1!" creationist/ID idiots.

/whom everybody fully is allowed to mock
 
2013-08-24 02:58:02 PM

here to help: Shadow Blasko: Maybe he or she lives in one of the many states where you can be denied the basic human right to sit at the side of your loved one while they are treated for, and slowly dying of, cancer because you are a same sex couple and to be considered "family" might upset the f*cking christians.

Thing is... I like Christians. Just like I like good Muslims and good Jews and good Hindus and good Sikhs and good... well I just like good PEOPLE. That's what it comes down to. If you use your faith to contribute to the community, help the less fortunate, enrich your life or do any of the other wonderful things faith can provide then if I had a million thumbs they would all be way up in the air.

What I DO not like... what I LOATHE are those who use it as an excuse to control others, to deny basic human rights, to act smug and superior to everyone else, to start wars at the expense of humanity, to do all those nasty ass things that many of the primary tenets of their OWN FAITHS discourage. Basically I hate assholes. The Christians in the article are assholes. The Christians who strive for power and who constantly sh*t on their fellow man are assholes.

F*ck those assholes.

Be like Christ and we'll have no problems. THAT is supposed to be the freaking POINT of being a good Christian. People who stray from this path have no business even calling themselves Christians. Those who manipulate those who wish to follow that path into STRAYING from that path are evil. Those that try to FORCE OTHERS to follow that same crooked path who are just trying to enjoy their own lives peacefully need to be shouted down and neutralized wherever and whenever possible.


AMEN!!!
 
2013-08-24 03:00:53 PM

here to help: Shadow Blasko: Maybe he or she lives in one of the many states where you can be denied the basic human right to sit at the side of your loved one while they are treated for, and slowly dying of, cancer because you are a same sex couple and to be considered "family" might upset the f*cking christians.

Thing is... I like Christians. Just like I like good Muslims and good Jews and good Hindus and good Sikhs and good... well I just like good PEOPLE. That's what it comes down to. If you use your faith to contribute to the community, help the less fortunate, enrich your life or do any of the other wonderful things faith can provide then if I had a million thumbs they would all be way up in the air.

What I DO not like... what I LOATHE are those who use it as an excuse to control others, to deny basic human rights, to act smug and superior to everyone else, to start wars at the expense of humanity, to do all those nasty ass things that many of the primary tenets of their OWN FAITHS discourage. Basically I hate assholes. The Christians in the article are assholes. The Christians who strive for power and who constantly sh*t on their fellow man are assholes.

F*ck those assholes.

Be like Christ and we'll have no problems. THAT is supposed to be the freaking POINT of being a good Christian. People who stray from this path have no business even calling themselves Christians. Those who manipulate those who wish to follow that path into STRAYING from that path are evil. Those that try to FORCE OTHERS to follow that same crooked path who are just trying to enjoy their own lives peacefully need to be shouted down and neutralized wherever and whenever possible.

They have had 2000 years to prove their righteousness. They have failed. Step aside. You are no longer needed or wanted.


Newsletter. Etc.

/Disgruntled Catholic
 
2013-08-24 03:03:07 PM
And I'm writing a novel where "The Lord God" is declared to be an idiot.

Surely it will be banned in Russia.

/And I didn't call anyone Shirley!
 
2013-08-24 03:06:41 PM

machoprogrammer: machoprogrammer: pjkraatz: machoprogrammer: TwowheelinTim: machoprogrammer: it isn't funny when you make fake churches and bibles off it, too

Umm, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. So you claim to be an atheist, but you believe the other bibles are not man made mythical works?

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but that's what I'm reading.

Oh they are man made works of fiction, but people really believe that shiat. They base their life around it.

As a person who was raised Catholic, I can tell you how stupid you look to other people when you do that, and you just make us look bad and immature.

So, the atheists who mock the religious are "immature" and hurting the cause, while the ones who just know their place and shut up are all right in your book?

You need to stop. Your pretension and tone trolling make the rest of us athiests look disconnected and unappreciative of the magnitude of the problem.

You are not going to make any progress mocking and acting like a retard with "LOL ITS A SPAGHETTI MONSTER GOD!", either.

FTFM



I have to respectfully disagree with your argument.  I believe that people openly praise the FSM the more people will see the absurdity of religious proclamations.   To be silent is to tacitly agree with whatever nonsense is being spouted.
 
2013-08-24 03:06:49 PM
No pirate regalia? What, couldn't they get any Pastafarian clerics to show up?
 
2013-08-24 03:08:41 PM

mbillips: No pirate regalia? What, couldn't they get any Pastafarian clerics to show up?


Look closer. Thar be pirates me matey.
 
2013-08-24 03:11:34 PM

here to help: Hey Christians... see this sh*t? This sh*t right here? This is why we don't want your bullf*ckery running rampant here in the west. Do your stupid retarded death cult voodoo on your own time in your own homes and let the sane people run the country's affairs. We swear, we won't lock you up or send you to re-education camps despite what your commanders in derp tell you. I know that's what you would do to US if you had the opportunity but we aren't the evil retard f*cksticks you are.


Damn. Someone forgot to take their Midol.
 
2013-08-24 03:17:43 PM

Pokey.Clyde: here to help: Hey Christians... see this sh*t? This sh*t right here? This is why we don't want your bullf*ckery running rampant here in the west. Do your stupid retarded death cult voodoo on your own time in your own homes and let the sane people run the country's affairs. We swear, we won't lock you up or send you to re-education camps despite what your commanders in derp tell you. I know that's what you would do to US if you had the opportunity but we aren't the evil retard f*cksticks you are.

Damn. Someone forgot to take their Midol.


Yes, implying that the argument is invalid because the person is an upset women will end well.

6/10 simply because I hope you are trolling.
 
2013-08-24 03:18:14 PM
I'm sure it's what Jesus would have done.

Romanov's fellow Pastafarians are falling victim to a recently introduced law that bans insulting the religious feelings of believers.

That is as unenforceable as the 'stand your ground' laws here in the USA.

Could the age of enlightened be coming to a close? Are we reaching a critical mass of stupid people who, ironically, only survived to adulthood thanks to science and technology?

I call 'grand inquisitor'! There are so many hot chicks that I'm sure are witches!
 
2013-08-24 03:19:30 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: This is definitely an interesting development. Russia historically saw itself as the last bastion of the Eastern Holy Roman Empire after the fall of Constantinople. Hence the double headed eagle. It seems this is a play for stronger nationalism through revival of an historic identity. Well nationalism and authoritarianism go hand in hand.


Interestingly the western Catholic Church became independent of the "state" somewhere around 1000AD. The Eastern Church never achieved this - its leaders were appointed by the state and were beholden to support the state or else.
 
2013-08-24 03:30:52 PM

danielscissorhands: The blessed Spaghetti Monster, Insha'SpaghettiMonster, will avenge this mistreatment by the infidels, Insha'SpaghettiMonster! The blessed virgins, Insha'Spaghettimonster will await us in the afterlife!

SPAGHETTIMONSTER AKBAR!!


Shouldn't that be "Ragu Ackbar"
 
2013-08-24 03:31:09 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Because "pastafarian" is a real religion.. sorry, it's the atheist equivalent of dressing up in blackface.


While I see where you are coming from I have to disagree.

Blackface was a cruel parody for the sake of "comedy". It was done by the majority mocking a minority without any redeeming goals.

The original pastafarian movement was a response to attempts to unconstitutional laws being implemented in regards to putting religion into schools. Logic and reason had no impact on these people so pastafarianism was created to both as a parody and as a way of making a point in a language that the religious theoretically could understand. The point being "if you are going to force the teaching of your religion in schools then you have to teach ours too." - 'ours' being a parody but with just as much supporting evidence.

I believe that a secondary movement has adhered itself to the pastafarian name as well. The non-religious who still want to belong to social groups but without the fairy-tales. This is popping up in many forms and I think this is what some people who associate themselves with pastafarianism are looking for.

Personally I do not need any of these atheist church-like groups but I will not fault people who do want them. As for the original pastafarianism, I respect the roots of the term and I find humor in how well developed the mythos has become.
 
2013-08-24 03:35:28 PM

here to help: Shadow Blasko: Maybe he or she lives in one of the many states where you can be denied the basic human right to sit at the side of your loved one while they are treated for, and slowly dying of, cancer because you are a same sex couple and to be considered "family" might upset the f*cking christians.

Thing is... I like Christians. Just like I like good Muslims and good Jews and good Hindus and good Sikhs and good... well I just like good PEOPLE. That's what it comes down to. If you use your faith to contribute to the community, help the less fortunate, enrich your life or do any of the other wonderful things faith can provide then if I had a million thumbs they would all be way up in the air.

What I DO not like... what I LOATHE are those who use it as an excuse to control others, to deny basic human rights, to act smug and superior to everyone else, to start wars at the expense of humanity, to do all those nasty ass things that many of the primary tenets of their OWN FAITHS discourage. Basically I hate assholes. The Christians in the article are assholes. The Christians who strive for power and who constantly sh*t on their fellow man are assholes.

F*ck those assholes.

Be like Christ and we'll have no problems. THAT is supposed to be the freaking POINT of being a good Christian. People who stray from this path have no business even calling themselves Christians. Those who manipulate those who wish to follow that path into STRAYING from that path are evil. Those that try to FORCE OTHERS to follow that same crooked path who are just trying to enjoy their own lives peacefully need to be shouted down and neutralized wherever and whenever possible.

They have had 2000 years to prove their righteousness. They have failed. Step aside. You are no longer needed or wanted.


Another addition to the retard list...
 
2013-08-24 03:36:51 PM

Empty H: Yes, implying that the argument is invalid because the person is an upset women will end well.

6/10 simply because I hope you are trolling.


I find it rather telling that the people bemoaning my comment are implying it is hyperbolic and overly aggressive while remaining silent about the fact some dorks wearing spaghetti strainers on their heads have been physically attacked and are facing serious time in Russian prison AND that this is likely the direct result of fundamentalist "Christians" manipulating one of the most powerful governments in the world.

Funny that. I wonder how they would feel if it happened here.
 
2013-08-24 03:38:14 PM

Pockafrusta: Another addition to the retard list...


Feels good. Feels reeeal good.

Bless your heart.
 
2013-08-24 03:43:50 PM

theotherles: And I'm writing a novel where "The Lord God" is declared to be an idiot.

Surely it will be banned in Russia.


In Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy, God is portrayed in a Gnostic framework as having gone senile. It seems to be available in Russian


i.ebayimg.com

I haven't been able to find info on how well it sells or whether there are efforts to ban or suppress it as insulting to religion and inappropriate for children. Then again then the Eastern church may not want it publicly banned because that will only encourage readership.
 
2013-08-24 03:44:28 PM

here to help: Funny that. I wonder how they would feel if it happened here.


They would rejoice. They've been quietly pushing towards a theocracy in the US for decades. It really started in the McCarthy era when they added "Under God" to the American Oath of Allegiance. When they equated the a person's position on religion the same as their position on politics (i.e. atheists are commies, etc.).

They already trample the American Constitution in their rush to legislate religious laws. Can you imagine how happy they would be if they could jail anyone who waved that annoying piece of paper in their faces??
 
2013-08-24 03:50:46 PM
FTFA "They accused the spaghetti worshipers of insulting the religious feelings of believers..."

What about the feelings of the spaghetti worshipers?
Tolerance has to work both ways. So long as you do it my way.

/Ramen
 
2013-08-24 03:50:51 PM
FSM threads always make me hungry...
 
2013-08-24 03:55:49 PM
I like the Flying Spaghetti Monster as a concept to explain things in hyperbolic ways if I must use it seriously, which is like never.  I have a decal of it because I thought it was cuter than the darwin fish (no bumper stickers of any kind) and that painting of Adam and FSM is good but so is the one with ceiling cat. So that's about it.

The 'seriousness' of it is stupid.

Russia ugh.  That's another kettle of piss right there.
 
2013-08-24 03:56:53 PM
'Patriarch Kirill, voiced dislike of the openly gay community in Russia.
"The legal acceptance of same-sex marriages is a 'sign of the apocalypse,'" he said in July.'


The best evidence leaders like Kirill crave temporal power more than the return of their messiah is statements like that.
 
2013-08-24 04:03:36 PM

Farking Canuck: The original pastafarian movement was a response to attempts to unconstitutional laws being implemented in regards to putting religion into schools. Logic and reason had no impact on these people so pastafarianism was created to both as a parody and as a way of making a point in a language that the religious theoretically could understand. The point being "if you are going to force the teaching of your religion in schools then you have to teach ours too." - 'ours' being a parody but with just as much supporting evidence


Maybe a handful of people who originated the idea had that in mind, but I see absolutely no evidence of that now.  They don't seem to combine their events with creationist movements on the whole, they're just a bunch of hateful dicks as far as I can tell.
 
2013-08-24 04:11:57 PM

Maggie_Luna: I like the Flying Spaghetti Monster as a concept to explain things in hyperbolic ways if I must use it seriously, which is like never.  I have a decal of it because I thought it was cuter than the darwin fish (no bumper stickers of any kind) and that painting of Adam and FSM is good but so is the one with ceiling cat. So that's about it.

The 'seriousness' of it is stupid.

Russia ugh.  That's another kettle of piss right there.


This.

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Farking Canuck: The original pastafarian movement was a response to attempts to unconstitutional laws being implemented in regards to putting religion into schools. Logic and reason had no impact on these people so pastafarianism was created to both as a parody and as a way of making a point in a language that the religious theoretically could understand. The point being "if you are going to force the teaching of your religion in schools then you have to teach ours too." - 'ours' being a parody but with just as much supporting evidence

Maybe a handful of people who originated the idea had that in mind, but I see absolutely no evidence of that now.  They don't seem to combine their events with creationist movements on the whole, they're just a bunch of hateful dicks as far as I can tell.


And this.
 
2013-08-24 04:14:32 PM

Fjornir: sethstorm: ...Edward Snowden, someone that betrayed 300 million+ citizens of the United States...

[derp]


Suit yourself if you want to believe that there was no damage to US citizens or try to use snark to wish it away.  That doesn't change his betrayal of the entire legitimate population of the US.
 
2013-08-24 04:19:57 PM

Farking Canuck: here to help: Funny that. I wonder how they would feel if it happened here.

They would rejoice. They've been quietly pushing towards a theocracy in the US for decades. It really started in the McCarthy era when they added "Under God" to the American Oath of Allegiance. When they equated the a person's position on religion the same as their position on politics (i.e. atheists are commies, etc.).

They already trample the American Constitution in their rush to legislate religious laws. Can you imagine how happy they would be if they could jail anyone who waved that annoying piece of paper in their faces??


Exactly. Fundamentalist Christians are the greatest threat to America (and many other western countries) than anything else. The highest laws of the land (the constitution) are continuously under attack by them at the expense of anyone else... even other Christians who just happen to be a little more moderate (AKA not completely batshizzers). Oh but lets pass expensive and redundant laws against Sharia and stomp those filthy homos into the ground because THEY are un-american. Let's crush the hopes and dreams of new americans and the poor because giving them the chance to succeed is un-american. Let's buy up large swaths of the fifth estate to counter factual reasoned and unbiased reports of domestic and international events because facts are UN-AMERICAN!

Yes. They surely have Americas best interests at heart and boy howdy if you even THINK about THINKING about anything counter to their lockstep, hive mind ideas of what America is and should be then YOU are un-american!!

But truly... they are becoming the oppressed class. Why oh WHY can you not see the injustices being committed against them? THEY are the REAL victims in all of this.

Have you no mercy or compassion? Can you not see what your barbarity and ruthlessness towards these innocent children of God means for the collective souls of mankind?

REPENT, SINNERS!! BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!
 
2013-08-24 04:26:50 PM
The Russians have been known to aggressively harass foreign originations on what look to us like stupid pretenses. Like when they attacked the Salvation Army as a paramilitary force that needed suppression. They've got ranks and uniforms and everything, they pointed out. The West just looked at them in wide-eyed amazement at their apparent thick-headedness.
 
2013-08-24 04:34:14 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Because "pastafarian" is a real religion.. sorry, it's the atheist equivalent of dressing up in blackface.


Why are you oppressing our way of worship?
 
2013-08-24 04:37:26 PM
sethstorm:
Suit yourself if you want to believe that there was no damage to US citizens or try to use snark to wish it away.  That doesn't change his betrayal of the entire legitimate population of the US.

Why am I not at all surprised that the script kiddie who home brews wireless surveillance systems would be in favor of the surveillance state?
 
2013-08-24 04:42:22 PM
I'm wondering what would happen if a Muslim, in all honesty, called in an Orthodox Christian parade to whatever thug thought police they have in Russia and claimed to be deeply offended because Jesus Christ is being portrayed as divine, which is blasphemous, rather than just one in a line of prophets. What would they do at this point?

Sometimes I think that the authors of the US constitution were so far ahead of their time that enough the world hasn't even caught up with it to a sufficient degree to put a century or decade value on it. And this story is an excellent idea of why. Once you get the government to enforce your religion, you're basically calling other religions, or none, wrong.

The US constitution was the first national law, ever, to exclude religion from state support. All other nations' that do or assert freedom of (and from) religion are based on it. It's disquieting to think that that fragile piece of parchment over two centuries old is the only thing standing between the forces of fascism. Please guard it well, not just for the US, but for the world. We need good examples.
 
2013-08-24 04:43:06 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Why are you oppressing our way of worship?


That's not oppressing, sorry. I mean sure that guy is steeped in the privilege that the Establishment recognizes his religion or lack thereof, but oppression is rather more forceful than that.

Disrespectful as hell. If you want to ID as a Pastafarian who am I to judge?


/Fnord
 
2013-08-24 04:49:33 PM

StoPPeRmobile: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Because "pastafarian" is a real religion.. sorry, it's the atheist equivalent of dressing up in blackface.

Why are you oppressing our way of worship?


Atheists by definition cannot worship, so you can drop the act.

I do, however defend your right to commit such hate speech.  Just don't get butt hurt if I defend everyone else's right to commit hate speech, even if they're saying something you find detestable.
 
2013-08-24 05:32:00 PM
 Yeah, Russia is quickly headed for fascist state status. Oddly the right in this country doesn't seem to have a problem with the oppressive government in power now despite the fact that their oppressive tactics are no different than the ones they used 30 years ago. Which should really tell you what they are gunning for in this country.
 
2013-08-24 05:34:34 PM

sethstorm: keytronic: In Russia's case, I think we are seeing the almost undeniable certainty that it's moving rapidly towards fascism.

No, it transitioned from despotic Communism to straight fascism in the 1990's.  This is one part of how Russia has no standing on matters of freedom or human rights - especially when it comes to the matters of Edward Snowden, someone that betrayed 300 million+ citizens of the United States(never mind the oath to secrecy for a clearance).


If you swear me to secrecy before I can join your club and then I find out your secrets involve immoral shiat, don't be surprised when I decide that you don't deserve the privilege of secrecy. It's very simple, if the government wants people to keep their secrets, they better be sure that someone can do so with a clear conscience.
 
2013-08-24 05:49:43 PM

machoprogrammer: machoprogrammer: pjkraatz: machoprogrammer: TwowheelinTim: machoprogrammer:

You are not going to make any progress mocking and acting like a retard with "LOL ITS A SPAGHETTI MONSTER GOD!", either.


You keep telling yourself that.  You could, alternately, suggest an alternative to "let's all be respectful and not try to anger them."  Meanwhile, I'm sure the religious zealots will leave you alone if you just tell them "but I'm one of the nice atheists who gives your sincerely held beliefs respect and admiration."  Oh, wait, no- they won't.

Do us both a favor and stay on the sidelines quietly nodding.  The faithful AND the faithless will both appreciate it.
 
2013-08-24 05:49:55 PM
God's Will's founder, Dmitry Enteo, posted on his Twitter feed that "Pastafarianism is a blasphemous smear against Christianity."

Why do the religious apes get to use 21st century conveniences? If scrolls were good enough for the inventors of your religion, they should be good enough for you.
 
2013-08-24 05:52:59 PM

here to help: Shadow Blasko: Maybe he or she lives in one of the many states where you can be denied the basic human right to sit at the side of your loved one while they are treated for, and slowly dying of, cancer because you are a same sex couple and to be considered "family" might upset the f*cking christians.

Thing is... I like Christians. Just like I like good Muslims and good Jews and good Hindus and good Sikhs and good... well I just like good PEOPLE. That's what it comes down to. If you use your faith to contribute to the community, help the less fortunate, enrich your life or do any of the other wonderful things faith can provide then if I had a million thumbs they would all be way up in the air.

What I DO not like... what I LOATHE are those who use it as an excuse to control others, to deny basic human rights, to act smug and superior to everyone else, to start wars at the expense of humanity, to do all those nasty ass things that many of the primary tenets of their OWN FAITHS discourage. Basically I hate assholes. The Christians in the article are assholes. The Christians who strive for power and who constantly sh*t on their fellow man are assholes.

F*ck those assholes.

Be like Christ and we'll have no problems. THAT is supposed to be the freaking POINT of being a good Christian. People who stray from this path have no business even calling themselves Christians. Those who manipulate those who wish to follow that path into STRAYING from that path are evil. Those that try to FORCE OTHERS to follow that same crooked path who are just trying to enjoy their own lives peacefully need to be shouted down and neutralized wherever and whenever possible.

They have had 2000 years to prove their righteousness. They have failed. Step aside. You are no longer needed or wanted.




Can you really be safe in this modern and dangerous world without 100 percent individual monitoring?
 
2013-08-24 06:20:18 PM
 
2013-08-24 07:03:03 PM

Mr. Shabooboo: danielscissorhands: The blessed Spaghetti Monster, Insha'SpaghettiMonster, will avenge this mistreatment by the infidels, Insha'SpaghettiMonster! The blessed virgins, Insha'Spaghettimonster will await us in the afterlife!

SPAGHETTIMONSTER AKBAR!!

Shouldn't that be "Ragu Ackbar"


Do not defile the Prophet's name, blessed be he.

/The noodly Jihad is approaching!
 
2013-08-24 07:11:39 PM
"The country is gradually turning into an authoritarian state," he said.

hahahhaah.  This is farking Russia we are talking about right?  Its been an authoritarian state for better than five decades.
 
2013-08-24 07:21:06 PM
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2013-08-24 07:47:23 PM

Ima4nic8or: "The country is gradually turning into an authoritarian state," he said.

hahahhaah.  This is farking Russia we are talking about right?  Its been an authoritarian state for better than five decades.


Five decades? It goes back much further, basically at least to around when they finally drove out the Mongols and they've been a paranoid people ever since. Of course the Mongols were authoritarian themselves.

I mean the one bright spot they had was Pyotr Alexeyevich, or Peter the Great. He actually embraced the ideas of the enlightenment but look at the history of the building of St. Petersburg know one really knows how many thousands died to build that port city. Communism was much the same way they built schools and hospitals as well as more factories so the peasants where probably better off but it still all worked through authoritarian rule of the few and powerful.
 
2013-08-24 08:21:33 PM

pjkraatz: machoprogrammer: machoprogrammer: pjkraatz: machoprogrammer: TwowheelinTim: machoprogrammer:

You are not going to make any progress mocking and acting like a retard with "LOL ITS A SPAGHETTI MONSTER GOD!", either.

You keep telling yourself that.  You could, alternately, suggest an alternative to "let's all be respectful and not try to anger them."  Meanwhile, I'm sure the religious zealots will leave you alone if you just tell them "but I'm one of the nice atheists who gives your sincerely held beliefs respect and admiration."  Oh, wait, no- they won't.

Do us both a favor and stay on the sidelines quietly nodding.  The faithful AND the faithless will both appreciate it.


All being a douche does is give them more ammo, but keep farking that chicken. If you want to stop them, do it through education and voting.

And the FSM isn't funny. It is retarded and when one goes all out for it to be teh funny, they look retarded.
 
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