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(Metro)   In news that will finally get the fanboys to shut up about Ben Affleck: Bryan Cranston confirmed to play Lex Luthor   (metro.co.uk) divider line 212
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2013-08-24 01:52:31 PM  
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2013-08-24 01:59:30 PM  

Infernalist: AverageAmericanGuy: Agent Smiths Laugh: AverageAmericanGuy: I think Affleck could make a good Batman. He's got the acting chops. There was a lot of this kind of nerdrage when Michael farking Keaton was chosen to be the original Batman, and he turned out to be the best Batman evar.

So, what universe are you from where this is true?

The one where Kristen Stewart has an acting career. I'm not saying Affleck's the best actor evar, but in the current crop of Hollywood prettyboys, he's one of the better choices to play Batman.

Affleck would be a good director for this....Or even playing The Flash since their personalities sorta match up, but Batfleck is going to be a disaster.  He's never done a single role where he's managed to be intimidating in any meaningful way.

I mean, for the love of god, look at Daredevil.  That's Batman-lite and he failed miserably at it.  The only reason he got picked for the role is name recognition.


Pretty much what I was driving at. The guy has all the gravitas of marshmallow fluff. He's never been able to be intimidating. There's this indelible smirk built into his demeanor that makes it all but impossible to take him seriously, much less threatening.

belhade: Guess this won't shut fanboys up after all.

Best choice for Batman would have been:

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 427x512]


Now that I would watch. That guy can do angst.
 
2013-08-24 02:01:35 PM  
If by "chops" you mean "nothing in his body of work that shows he has the range or gravitas to play a character like Batman" then yes, he has chops.

I'm thinkin' that Warners wants to see Bruce Wayne as Tony Stark - they want a slightly smart-alecky, vaguely neurotic alter-ego with issues who turns into the grim, taciturn Dark Knight.  Affleck would take that one and run with it, though I think he would be at least competent trying to do a Nolan-style Batman.
 
2013-08-24 02:03:35 PM  

phenn: belhade: Guess this won't shut fanboys up after all.

Best choice for Batman would have been:

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 427x512]

Too young.


He would have been great in the role.  Seriously great.  Affleck will be ok, but not Ackles good.
 
2013-08-24 02:05:26 PM  

stoli n coke: Show us on the doll where Daredevil touched you.


+1
I lol'd
 
2013-08-24 02:06:22 PM  
I maintain that the new Batman should be an older actor, able to represent the veteran Batman with his gadgets, tricks, super tech, the guile and tactical genius needed to really 'show' that this Batman can really beat Superman.

A fumbling, bumbling newbie Batman?  No.
 
2013-08-24 02:08:45 PM  

Infernalist: Stop following me around, I'm not going to go out with you.


Yeah, posting in threads I'm clearly interested in = Following you around.

Heck, you're a big time Marvel fanboy, what are you even doing in a Batman thread? It's clear YOU're the one following these news around to post the same crap over and over.

Nobody cares.
 
2013-08-24 02:11:48 PM  

rocky_howard: Infernalist: Stop following me around, I'm not going to go out with you.

Yeah, posting in threads I'm clearly interested in = Following you around.

Heck, you're a big time Marvel fanboy, what are you even doing in a Batman thread? It's clear YOU're the one following these news around to post the same crap over and over.

Nobody cares.


I'm serious, you're not my type.
 
2013-08-24 02:13:41 PM  

Infernalist: I maintain that the new Batman should be an older actor, able to represent the veteran Batman with his gadgets, tricks, super tech, the guile and tactical genius needed to really 'show' that this Batman can really beat Superman.

A fumbling, bumbling newbie Batman?  No.


Ron Affleck is going to be 46 when this movie comes out
 
2013-08-24 02:18:19 PM  

GBB: AverageAmericanGuy: I think Affleck could make a good Batman. He's got the acting chops. There was a lot of this kind of nerdrage when Michael farking Keaton was chosen to be the original Batman, and he turned out to be the best Batman evar.

Good batman, bad bruce wayne.

Afleck?  Acting Chops?   No.  He simply plays himself in everything he does.  That's not acting.


I disagree completely. Shakespeare in Love shows he can play that arrogant playboy type pretty well, granted that's a long time ago, but he hasn't been in anything like that since. I'd say his Batman is the challenge, not his Bruce
 
2013-08-24 02:28:31 PM  
Karl Urban would be a fantastic Batman. The man has gravitas, he can be brutally intimidating, and he is far from afraid of a physical role. He also just has the look to be Bruce Wayne. I would point to his performances in RED, Judge Dredd, Chronicles of Riddick and The LotR as my evidence.
 
2013-08-24 02:29:30 PM  
I agree, but Affleck IS 41 I think.  I'd like to see a Batman as 'World's Greatest Detective' for a change.  Affleck doesn't seem to be a great choice here, lacks gravitas.
 
2013-08-24 02:41:50 PM  

Infernalist: salvador.hardin: You folks do realize that Daredevil was awful for plenty of non-Affleck related reasons right? The screenwriter/director most importantly.

The Fantastic Four movies were terrible, but that didn't stop Chris Evans from playing a serviceable Captain America.

No, I agree completely.  DD was full of bad from all sides and every aspect, aside from Duncan as the Kingpin.  And Coolio.

That said, he still stunk to high heaven as DD and pretty much everyone is in agreement on that.

So, at the end of the day, if you thought his portrayal of DD was an amazing display and were enthralled by his performance, then I guess you have the right to say that you think he'll be good as Batfleck.

Meanwhile, most of us look at his DD performance and mourn the reality of Batfleck.


I don't think Affleck's performance in a terrible movie 10 years ago (when most superhero movies were terrible) has ass all to do with his performance in the next. That's why I brought up the analogous situation of Chris Evans.

Now if you thought Chris Evans performance in Fantastic Four was nothing short of exceptional, then you are free to do so.

The rest of us realize that scripts and directors have a large influence on an actor's performance in a given role.
 
2013-08-24 02:45:08 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Infernalist: Oh yeah, that bears repeating: This version of Superman's universe doesn't have Kryptonite in it.

sure it does. no one has discovered it yet is all. that's probably what Luthor does. And Bats after doing research on Supes and finally deciding they're on the same side will probably save his life when Luthor tries to kill him with the Kryptonite.


They showed Kryptonite in Man of Steel, after a fashion.  The Kryptonian atmosphere had ill effects on Kal-el.
 
2013-08-24 02:50:25 PM  

salvador.hardin: Infernalist: salvador.hardin: You folks do realize that Daredevil was awful for plenty of non-Affleck related reasons right? The screenwriter/director most importantly.

The Fantastic Four movies were terrible, but that didn't stop Chris Evans from playing a serviceable Captain America.

No, I agree completely.  DD was full of bad from all sides and every aspect, aside from Duncan as the Kingpin.  And Coolio.

That said, he still stunk to high heaven as DD and pretty much everyone is in agreement on that.

So, at the end of the day, if you thought his portrayal of DD was an amazing display and were enthralled by his performance, then I guess you have the right to say that you think he'll be good as Batfleck.

Meanwhile, most of us look at his DD performance and mourn the reality of Batfleck.

I don't think Affleck's performance in a terrible movie 10 years ago (when most superhero movies were terrible) has ass all to do with his performance in the next. That's why I brought up the analogous situation of Chris Evans.

Now if you thought Chris Evans performance in Fantastic Four was nothing short of exceptional, then you are free to do so.

The rest of us realize that scripts and directors have a large influence on an actor's performance in a given role.


I think Evans did great in his role as Johnny Storm.  He fit the role perfectly and stood out of a bad movie full of bad acting.  And I think that's the general consensus.

Meanwhile, the general consensus on DD was that it was a bad movie and Batfleck did nothing good in that movie to help redeem it.  He was just more bad in a sea of bad.

And what I'm gathering from your post is that we're being too quick to disregard him and that he might do good in the role...

If that's the case, and you do think that he might be good in the role, then please...Point to something...anything in his resume of movies that indicates that he can be intimidating, ominous, threatening, super-serious and obsessive to the point of mental illness.  Show me a role where he melts into the character and isn't just Ben Affleck pretending to be someone else.  Give us something to counter the bad taste of his role of DD, who is basically Marvel's version of Batman.
 
2013-08-24 02:50:47 PM  
I thought Evans was great in both roles despite the fact that the quality of the movies couldn't be more different... is this not what people think?
 
2013-08-24 02:52:59 PM  
Bryan Cranston should play Gordon Freeman in the movie adaptation of Half Life.
 
2013-08-24 03:18:17 PM  

WippitGuud: Bryan Cranston should play Gordon Freeman in the movie adaptation of Half Life.


Too old. Freeman is supposed to be like 29 and in shape for marathons
 
2013-08-24 03:25:39 PM  

WippitGuud: Bryan Cranston should play Gordon Freeman in the movie adaptation of Half Life.


Vince Gilligan knows:

i.imgur.com


i.imgur.com


Looks like something out of Half Life 3 with an older Gordon strolling through Nova Prospekt or something similar.
 
2013-08-24 03:34:04 PM  
I don't get the Ben Affleck rage. I could have only been happier if Jon Hamm was Batman. They obviously aren't going with an older Batman. They can still embrace aspects of The Dark Knight Returns even with Bruce not being an old man. The theme could still be there. People really need to get over it. These same people probably had a conniption fit when Heath Ledger was cast as The Joker, and look how that turned out. Affleck will be a fantastic Supes, Bryan Cranston will be a fantastic Luthor, and the movie is going to be a monolithic blockbuster of epic proportions.
 
2013-08-24 03:38:54 PM  

ParagonComplex: I don't get the Ben Affleck rage. I could have only been happier if Jon Hamm was Batman. They obviously aren't going with an older Batman. They can still embrace aspects of The Dark Knight Returns even with Bruce not being an old man. The theme could still be there. People really need to get over it. These same people probably had a conniption fit when Heath Ledger was cast as The Joker, and look how that turned out. Affleck will be a fantastic Supes, Bryan Cranston will be a fantastic Luthor, and the movie is going to be a monolithic blockbuster of epic proportions.


lol

Here:

"By playing a superhero in Daredevil, I have inoculated myself from ever playing another superhero... Wearing a costume was a source of humiliation for me and something I wouldn't want to do again soon."

That's the guy you want headlining your biggest Superhero movie ever, DC.  A guy who sees it as a humiliation.  Well done.
 
2013-08-24 03:44:35 PM  

Hobodeluxe: [sphotos-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net image 532x317]


You had me at Cavill toe.
 
2013-08-24 03:51:39 PM  

Infernalist: "By playing a superhero in Daredevil, I have inoculated myself from ever playing another superhero... Wearing a costume was a source of humiliation for me and something I wouldn't want to do again soon."

That's the guy you want headlining your biggest Superhero movie ever, DC.  A guy who sees it as a humiliation.  Well done.


People don't change their minds. Ever. It doesn't happen. We're born with a fixed opinion. Excruciating development by working with FOX and public ridicule over a trash movie he had no control about wouldn't make him react that way. Clearly no. Also, hyperbole doesn't exist.

In short words: That argument is shiat.
 
2013-08-24 03:53:47 PM  

rocky_howard: Infernalist: "By playing a superhero in Daredevil, I have inoculated myself from ever playing another superhero... Wearing a costume was a source of humiliation for me and something I wouldn't want to do again soon."

That's the guy you want headlining your biggest Superhero movie ever, DC.  A guy who sees it as a humiliation.  Well done.

People don't change their minds. Ever. It doesn't happen. We're born with a fixed opinion. Excruciating development by working with FOX and public ridicule over a trash movie he had no control about wouldn't make him react that way. Clearly no. Also, hyperbole doesn't exist.

In short words: That argument is shiat.


I'm sure you have a quote of him that would give you reason to think that he's changed his mind.  Something where he's waxing eloquent over how much fun it was for him to do Daredevil and how it opened his eyes to all manner of new means of expression and emoting...

Something?  Anything other than the millions of dollars they shoved in his face?
 
2013-08-24 03:54:24 PM  

Lernaeus: Relax, dorks. It's a movie. At worst, you're out $9.50 and a couple of hours.


So much this! Jeebus people, turn off your computer and go outside for a while.
 
2013-08-24 03:59:30 PM  
I don't give a shiat about another Batman movie,make a Transmetropolitan movie with Cranston playing Spider.
 
2013-08-24 04:03:06 PM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

A WHITE Lex Luthor? That ridiculous!
 
2013-08-24 04:19:43 PM  

Infernalist: I'm sure you have a quote of him that would give you reason to think that he's changed his mind.  Something where he's waxing eloquent over how much fun it was for him to do Daredevil and how it opened his eyes to all manner of new means of expression and emoting...

Something?  Anything other than the millions of dollars they shoved in his face?


Yeah, because that's what I said at all...

What I meant, since you clearly have the brain capacity to understand: He felt the Daredevil experience was bad and swore off the genre for the time being. Keyword: For the time being. He didn't say never, he said he didn't want to do it soon. And for good reason, since it clearly stunk him.

Now that fourteen years have passed, yeah, FOURTEEN YEARS (y'know, almost the textbook definition for "not soon"), he got an offer to play a superhero and he decided to take it. Surely the money was a factor, but you'd have to be retarded to think it was the only or even main factor. He probably has a deal to direct a superhero movie after this one. Which is something I could see him doing. But hey, whatever you say brah.
 
2013-08-24 04:22:45 PM  

blackminded: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Affleck is a great choice for Batman... Lets be honest the bar is so low right now anyway after Bale's horrendous "cookie monster" version.

I haven't been paying attention: have we reached Peak Nolan?


Do you know that old cardboard box in the corner of your garage or basement? That one you haven't opened in years, are sure it holds nothing but spider eggs, dust, and mostly useless junk... plus some odd or sentimental item that makes you not want to throw it out? And you know how no matter how much you try to ignore it, that box always ends up getting in your way somehow?

The corner of the internet that pans the Nolan films solely because of Bale's voice is  exactly like that box.
 
2013-08-24 04:33:10 PM  

rocky_howard: Infernalist: I'm sure you have a quote of him that would give you reason to think that he's changed his mind.  Something where he's waxing eloquent over how much fun it was for him to do Daredevil and how it opened his eyes to all manner of new means of expression and emoting...

Something?  Anything other than the millions of dollars they shoved in his face?

Yeah, because that's what I said at all...

What I meant, since you clearly have the brain capacity to understand: He felt the Daredevil experience was bad and swore off the genre for the time being. Keyword: For the time being. He didn't say never, he said he didn't want to do it soon. And for good reason, since it clearly stunk him.

Now that fourteen years have passed, yeah, FOURTEEN YEARS (y'know, almost the textbook definition for "not soon"), he got an offer to play a superhero and he decided to take it. Surely the money was a factor, but you'd have to be retarded to think it was the only or even main factor. He probably has a deal to direct a superhero movie after this one. Which is something I could see him doing. But hey, whatever you say brah.


I'd bet good money that part of the deal included first dibs on directing a full length Batman flick if the Man of Steel 2 and JLA movies do good.

Affleck's a good enough director (and noted comic fan) to make a good Batman flick. I'm willing to wait to see how his acting pans out.
 
2013-08-24 04:39:57 PM  

olddeegee: I'm just happy that they decided to go with Walter White instead of Malcolm in the Middle's Dad.




Approves
www.uparcfoundation.org
 
2013-08-24 04:50:39 PM  
i291.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-24 05:03:31 PM  
The reason I'm not going to see Man of Steel II has nothing to do with Ben Affleck.

I'm not going to see Man of Steel II because I saw Man of Steel I.
 
2013-08-24 05:23:21 PM  

albuquerquehalsey: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 461x346]

A WHITE Lex Luthor? That ridiculous!


I always thought JLU Luthor was just really tan.
 
2013-08-24 05:23:52 PM  
I don't like Breaking Bad there I said it!!!
 
2013-08-24 05:58:26 PM  
It's like they got their casting sheets mixed up. Have Cranston as Batman and Affleck as Luthor, and there'd be a lot less confusion. As it is, it sounds like the studio wants a much more kid-friendly Batman who'll be a better choice for Happy Meal promotions than Burton's or Nolan's visions were.
 
2013-08-24 06:02:12 PM  
Imagine Clint Eastwood as old grizzled Batman
 
2013-08-24 06:26:34 PM  

YodaBlues: I'd bet good money that part of the deal included first dibs on directing a full length Batman flick if the Man of Steel 2 and JLA movies do good.

Affleck's a good enough director (and noted comic fan) to make a good Batman flick. I'm willing to wait to see how his acting pans out.


I've got a feeling part of the reason they cast Affleck was so they had a talented director on set to advise Snyder, who while talented in some areas but has a number of shortfalls in others.
 
2013-08-24 06:34:00 PM  

sleeper2995: I don't like Breaking Bad there I said it!!!




I think you have to turn in your white card if you do that.
 
2013-08-24 06:48:16 PM  

texdent: Imagine Clint Eastwood as old grizzled Batman


INT. BATCAVE - MAIN COMPUTER BAY

BATMAN

walks into frame, removing his cowl.

He glints off to the side; his anger slowly pouring out.

BATMAN
What in hell did you think you were doing out there?



CUT TO:
Shot of EMPTY CHAIR

BATMAN
Well, are you going to answer me?

 
2013-08-24 07:13:39 PM  
Affleck is going to be a great Batman, and everyone on the internet who is biatching about the casting will conveniently forget that when they're falling over themselves to rant about how great he is.
 
2013-08-24 07:15:37 PM  
I'm thinking he'd be a much better Commissioner Gordon. Although Gary Oldman would be tough to top.
 
2013-08-24 07:21:40 PM  

ParagonComplex: Affleck will be a fantastic Supes, Bryan Cranston will be a fantastic Luthor, and the movie is going to be a monolithic blockbuster of epic proportions.


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-24 08:03:58 PM  

Ess_Aytch: Affleck is going to be a great Batman, and everyone on the internet who is biatching about the casting will conveniently forget that when they're falling over themselves to rant about how great he is.



Yeah or something like this will happen. One of the two.

www.sabotagetimes.com
 
2013-08-24 08:18:06 PM  

texdent: Imagine Clint Eastwood as old grizzled Batman


Are you thinking about a Batman Beyond movie?
 
2013-08-24 08:20:57 PM  
Everyone on this thread is missing the point... Cranston has signed on for SIX to TEN movies!

Why the FARK do we need 6-10 new batman/superman movies?  Do we even need that many more superhero movies (of any kind)?  They're formulaic, childish trash.

/hate this current hollywood model that is hell-bent on riding any and all ideas that might make money straight into the ground regardless of story quality.  We get it, evil villains need to be defeated by some wannabe vigilante(s).
 
2013-08-24 08:54:42 PM  

genner: Yeah or something like this will happen. One of the two.

[www.sabotagetimes.com image 400x472]


Nope, the latter will not happen at all. It'll be a more serious take, which Affleck will nail perfectly and audiences will love.
 
2013-08-24 08:58:37 PM  
fark Cranston, fark breaking bad, and fark dc comics in general.

/runs out of the room.
 
2013-08-24 09:29:53 PM  

AtlanticCoast63: If by "chops" you mean "nothing in his body of work that shows he has the range or gravitas to play a character like Batman" then yes, he has chops.

I'm thinkin' that Warners wants to see Bruce Wayne as Tony Stark - they want a slightly smart-alecky, vaguely neurotic alter-ego with issues who turns into the grim, taciturn Dark Knight.  Affleck would take that one and run with it, though I think he would be at least competent trying to do a Nolan-style Batman.


I was always irritated that Downy Jr. played Stark too much like Bruce Wayne.
 
2013-08-24 09:44:14 PM  
Affleck was awful in Daredevil, but he totally killed it in The Town. They were also 10 years apart. He's got a little gray now... some wear and tear. I think he'll be fine.
 
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