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(Deadline)   One good thing about Ben Affleck ruining the Batman franchise? He won't be able to ruin Stephen King's The Stand   (deadline.com) divider line 82
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2013-08-24 12:27:29 AM
Speak for yourself, subs...... I would have loved to see Affleck tackle this adaptation.
 
2013-08-24 12:38:02 AM
The Stand has to be a mini-series.  Hell it needs to be a limited run series.  There is no way to get it all down into a movie.

It could handle being given the same treatment as Under the Dome.
 
2013-08-24 01:14:44 AM
Affleck in The Stand I wouldn't mind. My issue is that he's not really cut out to do action parts, and he's not the goddamn Batman. Daredevil proved that beyond a doubt. The Stand he could pull off. Even excel in. Batman, I don't have so much faith in. The issue isn't his acting ability, it's his suitability for the role, and his ability to pull off the physicality necessary. Unless Affleck has upped his game, significantly, and even then, I just don't see him pulling it off. He's not that kind of actor, and I don't think he really has the chops for it--not physically.
 
2013-08-24 01:41:42 AM

BizarreMan: The Stand has to be a mini-series.  Hell it needs to be a limited run series.  There is no way to get it all down into a movie.

It could handle being given the same treatment as Under the Dome.


And that show is getting downright interesting.  In a way its bad it'll only be thirteen episodes and that's it, but then again isn't that what TV used to be like decades ago?
 
2013-08-24 02:05:01 AM

bluorangefyre: And that show is getting downright interesting. In a way its bad it'll only be thirteen episodes and that's it, but then again isn't that what TV used to be like decades ago?


I don't know about that. I heard they had greenlit a second season for Under the Dome.

Link
 
2013-08-24 03:55:05 AM
I know this will be unpopular but I think it's a good chioce for Batman. As for the Daredevil complaints the addition of Gardner ruined it.
 
2013-08-24 03:58:22 AM

BizarreMan: The Stand has to be a mini-series.  Hell it needs to be a limited run series.  There is no way to get it all down into a movie.

It could handle being given the same treatment as Under the Dome.




The Stand is to long for a movie. It would be best as a limited run cable series. The same with the proposed Preacher and Y the last man series.
 
2013-08-24 04:01:50 AM

BizarreMan [TotalFark]
2013-08-24 12:38:02 AM


The Stand has to be a mini-series. Hell it needs to be a limited run series. There is no way to get it all down into a movie.

It could handle being given the same treatment as Under the Dome.

Given horrible writing, terrible acting, and turned into a bad LOST impersonation?

no.
 
2013-08-24 04:14:59 AM
It's really not possible to "ruin" a Stephen King story.
 
2013-08-24 04:36:26 AM
ABC already ruined the Stand years ago.

Randall Flagg freeing Lloyd in the book: spooky and sarcastic, making Lloyd think he might be better off starving to death in a prison cell.
RF: "(Grills Lloyd about the corpse that looks like it has bite marks, talks about hamburgers, food, and then gives a sarcastic glance at whimpering Lloyd -- and briefly shows his demonic appearance) ... Oh, forgive me. You look like a poster child for Dachau."
RF then does some mystical stuff, makes a crying Lloyd submit to him ... then frees him.

Randall Flagg freeing Lloyd in the miniseries: "Dude, you're in jail. Want out?"
Standing nonchalant Lloyd at the cell door: "Sure, man."
RF: (opens cell) "There you go."
 
2013-08-24 05:17:29 AM
I keep reading about all this Affleck nerd rage, and I'm sorry. All I can think is:

http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=A4VbOHvaPRc
 
2013-08-24 05:20:03 AM
I don't like Stephen King, so I don't care, but if I were a fan I'd be less concerned about Affleck taking him on than Damon Lindelof.
 
2013-08-24 05:48:27 AM
I seem to recall him winning best director awards and his last few movies getting very good reviews from critics and fans. But don't worry, subby, your headline is still really clever.
 
2013-08-24 05:53:26 AM
Picture I've seen on Facebook, with the Joker in his nurse outfit:
"Chemical attacks kill a hundred people in Syria and nobody panics.
Ben Affleck becomes Batman and everyone just loses their minds!"
 
2013-08-24 05:56:36 AM
Basically Affleck's full career reversal kind of hinges on this. The whole Gigli thing has hung over his head for a decade, and he only started regaining respect after The Town and Argo. So if he bombs as Batman he's back to being a douche but if he succeeds then he's a perennial A-lister that actually will get respect as an actor. Bold move but it might pay off, but I assume his role as Batman will resemble Clooney, I hope I'm wrong as a Batman fan.
 
2013-08-24 06:01:50 AM

hubiestubert: Affleck in The Stand I wouldn't mind. My issue is that he's not really cut out to do action parts, and he's not the goddamn Batman. Daredevil proved that beyond a doubt. The Stand he could pull off. Even excel in. Batman, I don't have so much faith in. The issue isn't his acting ability, it's his suitability for the role, and his ability to pull off the physicality necessary. Unless Affleck has upped his game, significantly, and even then, I just don't see him pulling it off. He's not that kind of actor, and I don't think he really has the chops for it--not physically.


Yeah, he's not a well-muscled tough guy like Michael Keaton.
 
2013-08-24 06:12:47 AM
It could be good. It comes down to the writing. Chris Evans sucked as the Human Torch, because the Fantastic Four movies sucked, but he rocked as Captain America. We might just get to see him move past Daredevil. Which admittedly had its problems, but I would argue he wasn't one of them.

Afleck has shown himself to be an amazing writer, director, and actor. I don't see him as the Bat, but I also didn't see Ledger as Joker and ate crow on that one.
 
2013-08-24 06:56:01 AM
I don't think I've seen a movie with Affleck in it, where should I start to see how bad he is?
 
2013-08-24 06:56:59 AM
Looking at the larger scheme of things, as far as the Man of Steel universe is concerned, Affleck is an interesting and positive choice.  Also, we don't need to worry about:

i.ytimg.com

VRRGHUURZHURRVERBRITNEYSPEARS!
 
2013-08-24 06:57:48 AM
Maybe Pete Holmes should have played Batman.
 
2013-08-24 06:57:54 AM

YoOjo: I don't think I've seen a movie with Affleck in it, where should I start to see how bad he is?


Dazed and Confused.
 
2013-08-24 07:07:00 AM

YoOjo: I don't think I've seen a movie with Affleck in it, where should I start to see how bad he is?


First one I saw of his was School Ties, 1992.  Pretty good.  He plays a student at an elite prep school in the 1950's, then the others find out he's Jewish, and the burning crosses start showing up.
 
2013-08-24 07:22:04 AM

Alphax: YoOjo: I don't think I've seen a movie with Affleck in it, where should I start to see how bad he is?

First one I saw of his was School Ties, 1992.  Pretty good.  He plays a student at an elite prep school in the 1950's, then the others find out he's Jewish, and the burning crosses start showing up.


No, Brendan Fraser played the Jewish student, Affleck played one of his antisemite schoolmates.

/I remember this because Brendan Fraser was the reason I watched the movie
 
2013-08-24 07:23:07 AM

if_i_really_have_to: Alphax: YoOjo: I don't think I've seen a movie with Affleck in it, where should I start to see how bad he is?

First one I saw of his was School Ties, 1992.  Pretty good.  He plays a student at an elite prep school in the 1950's, then the others find out he's Jewish, and the burning crosses start showing up.

No, Brendan Fraser played the Jewish student, Affleck played one of his antisemite schoolmates.

/I remember this because Brendan Fraser was the reason I watched the movie


Ah, you are correct.  They're both tall guys with similar builds, but yes, my mistake.
 
2013-08-24 07:34:17 AM
They're making a Stand movie?  The miniseries was...serviceable.  And it launched Gary Sinise's career and rescued Rob Lowe's.  No reason to make a movie.  Besides, it's nearly impossible to make that thing into a 2-hour movie.  Leave it alone or make another mini-series.

/M-O-O-N, that spells bad decisions.
 
2013-08-24 07:39:14 AM

docmattic: hubiestubert: Affleck in The Stand I wouldn't mind. My issue is that he's not really cut out to do action parts, and he's not the goddamn Batman. Daredevil proved that beyond a doubt. The Stand he could pull off. Even excel in. Batman, I don't have so much faith in. The issue isn't his acting ability, it's his suitability for the role, and his ability to pull off the physicality necessary. Unless Affleck has upped his game, significantly, and even then, I just don't see him pulling it off. He's not that kind of actor, and I don't think he really has the chops for it--not physically.

Yeah, he's not a well-muscled tough guy like Michael Keaton.


The times, they do change. Mullets were big back then too.
 
2013-08-24 07:51:44 AM

brigid_fitch: They're making a Stand movie?  The miniseries was...serviceable.  And it launched Gary Sinise's career and rescued Rob Lowe's.  No reason to make a movie.  Besides, it's nearly impossible to make that thing into a 2-hour movie.  Leave it alone or make another mini-series.

/M-O-O-N, that spells bad decisions.


I could knock out a decent screenplay based on The Stand.
It'd have robots and explosions, two buddy cops one of which is nearing retirement and an 18 year old girl in a bikini.
There's probably hundreds of similar treatments. I think anyone trying to faithfully interpret the book would be better served reading the book, any movie adaptation will be just that, an adaptation.
/don't judge a book by it's movie...
 
2013-08-24 08:10:38 AM

Pokey.Clyde: bluorangefyre: And that show is getting downright interesting. In a way its bad it'll only be thirteen episodes and that's it, but then again isn't that what TV used to be like decades ago?

I don't know about that. I heard they had greenlit a second season for Under the Dome.

Link


I hear they have already signed on Pauly Shore and Stephen Baldwin for the second season.
 
2013-08-24 08:11:15 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: I know this will be unpopular but I think it's a good chioce for Batman. As for the Daredevil complaints the addition of Gardner ruined it.


Garner as Elektra was the only misstep of the film
 
2013-08-24 08:16:31 AM
I have a vision that this movie will arrive just as the superhero movie genre becomes played out as general audiences reach saturation point with Marvel's Phase 2, and everybody but hardcore fans loses interest in sequels that lack the intrinsic tension of origin stories.

Then we all get to enjoy a decade of watching the media blame Affleck not merely for killing both the Superman and Batman franchises, and along with them any hopes for a Justice League movie, but the entire genre.
 
2013-08-24 08:23:05 AM

Fano: Mid_mo_mad_man: I know this will be unpopular but I think it's a good chioce for Batman. As for the Daredevil complaints the addition of Gardner ruined it.

Garner as Elektra was the only misstep of the film


Watch the directors cut. It's a much better film. If they ever due a remake of it they should use the guardian devil storyline. Kevin Smith's best writing ever. I don't know who should play Daredevil or Bullseye in it but I do know that Bruce Cambell should play Mstyterio.
 
2013-08-24 08:30:02 AM
Why spend the 20 million Affleck is going to get for Batman, when yoi cn go cheap and find another Henry Cavill? Then you can spend that 15 million that's left over to pump up the fight scenes bit. Because nothing says "Man of Steel" more than long drawn out talking scenes between the occasional fight scenes.

But a half hour long battle with Batman in a Pacific Rim-type robot fighting with the Son of Krypton would be an awesome popcorn flick to turn off your brain.
 
2013-08-24 08:50:54 AM

snowshovel: Why spend the 20 million Affleck is going to get for Batman, when yoi cn go cheap and find another Henry Cavill? Then you can spend that 15 million that's left over to pump up the fight scenes bit. Because nothing says "Man of Steel" more than long drawn out talking scenes between the occasional fight scenes.

But a half hour long battle with Batman in a Pacific Rim-type robot fighting with the Son of Krypton would be an awesome popcorn flick to turn off your brain.


Nope previous batman flicks are too close. If you cant get the name you had, you have to get some sort of name. a nobody will tank your flick. It will be seen as substandard. Now if a nobody had done the previous bat flicks youd be ok.


/also dubby is a douche.
 
2013-08-24 09:06:01 AM
Good, it leaves the Stand wide open for Shia LaBeouf.
 
2013-08-24 09:06:46 AM

hubiestubert: Affleck... and he's not the goddamn Batman. Daredevil proved that beyond a doubt. ....


Affleck was the least of the problems with Daredevil
 
2013-08-24 09:12:46 AM
 
2013-08-24 09:15:09 AM
The only Stephen King movie that I enjoyed was Christine.  All his other movies were shiat.  I guess I'm in the minority for feeling that way.
 
2013-08-24 09:26:27 AM
The Stand is 100% complete overrated shiat, god damn.  I mean, it starts out OK for a little while... but my god I have no idea how anyone even likes that trash, let alone consider it pretty much the best thing King has ever written (though to be fair, that doesn't say much considering Stephen King).  I almost think some people just pretend to like it due to how long it is and they think that makes it special or something.
 
2013-08-24 09:26:57 AM

snowshovel: Why spend the 20 million Affleck is going to get for Batman, when you can go cheap and find another Henry Cavill?


Because they're already saving $30 million off the 50 they were prepared to offer Christian Bale to come back.
 
2013-08-24 09:33:47 AM
Affleck sounds like he could potentially be a fine choice, but
jesus christ can we take a break already from these farking super hero movies???

/please?
 
2013-08-24 09:59:36 AM

dennysgod: hubiestubert: Affleck... and he's not the goddamn Batman. Daredevil proved that beyond a doubt. ....

Affleck was the least of the problems with Daredevil


His jaw looked right in that leather red bondage outfit he had.
 
2013-08-24 10:01:09 AM
I'm pretty sure The Stand was already ruined twice. Once when King/his editors tried to update the expanded edition by simply changing dates and not every other reflection of the time period and again with that awful TV mini-series.
 
2013-08-24 10:01:17 AM

Valacirca: The Stand is 100% complete overrated shiat, god damn.  I mean, it starts out OK for a little while... but my god I have no idea how anyone even likes that trash, let alone consider it pretty much the best thing King has ever written (though to be fair, that doesn't say much considering Stephen King).  I almost think some people just pretend to like it due to how long it is and they think that makes it special or something.


Well, in this era of unlimited reboots of zombie apocalypses one can forget that King wrote a great story of the end of humanity, and the struggle thereafter. It wasn't THAT common back then.
 
2013-08-24 10:20:59 AM

thamike: YoOjo: I don't think I've seen a movie with Affleck in it, where should I start to see how bad he is?

Dazed and Confused.


He was the bomb in Phantoms yo.

/had to be done
 
2013-08-24 10:23:34 AM

BizarreMan: The Stand has to be a mini-series.  Hell it needs to be a limited run series.  There is no way to get it all down into a movie.

It could handle being given the same treatment as Under the Dome.


The book is better (except for the ending). The series is PC-fied and pussified.
 
2013-08-24 10:26:13 AM

PsyLord: The only Stephen King movie that I enjoyed was Christine.  All his other movies were shiat.  I guess I'm in the minority for feeling that way.


Even Shawshank?

I personally love watching the black & white version of The Mist.  It feels like a great episode of Outer Limits or Twilight Zone.
 
2013-08-24 10:29:02 AM
The Stand was already ruined. The original mini series sucked.

And jesus christ, is no one else tired of Batman in general? We just had like 7 years of it.
 
2013-08-24 10:36:00 AM

YoOjo: I don't think I've seen a movie with Affleck in it, where should I start to see how bad he is?


See for yourself:

i2.listal.com
www.imfdb.org

And his best, and the best movie about Boston:

www.jeremyleerenner.com

Didn't see Argo yet, so I gots no opinions on that yet.
 
2013-08-24 10:41:46 AM

Karma Chameleon: The Stand was already ruined. The original mini series sucked.

And jesus christ, is no one else tired of Batman in general? We just had like 7 years of it.


Seven? It's been twenty four years since the original Burton Batman, and we've had seven Batman films, a brazillion X-Men films, two Spider-Man franchises, and two attempted reboots of Superman in that time frame.  If it weren't for the existence of the Avengers Universe I'd be completely done with superhero movies.

\not sure if its more Affleck than total Batman burnout that makes me not want this movie
\\which is sad, because Batman has always been my favorite superhero
 
2013-08-24 10:44:37 AM
I have been informed that he had an explosively superb performance in a talky called "Phantoms"
 
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