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(Columbus Dispatch)   FIrst grader with autism is told to transfer schools, because a teacher is allergic to her service dog   (dispatch.com) divider line 229
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2013-08-23 06:38:23 PM
That's what happens when you divide the ADA by zero.
 
2013-08-23 07:44:06 PM
You're supposed to give blind people dogs. Autistic kids need a different animal so we can differentiate disabilities easily. If everyone's walking around with labs, society's gonna collapse.

I vote sloths.

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2013-08-23 07:51:05 PM

doglover: You're supposed to give blind people dogs. Autistic kids need a different animal so we can differentiate disabilities easily. If everyone's walking around with labs, society's gonna collapse.

I vote sloths.

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Put some softpaws on them and I 2nd that idea..
 
2013-08-23 07:51:23 PM
Take some benadryl or get a script for vistaril and gbtw.
 
2013-08-23 07:53:18 PM
Assigning her to a different school that can accommodate her IEP seems like a reasonable move.  Also, 20% of the kids in the district have diagnosed disabilities?  That seems awfully high.
 
2013-08-23 07:53:39 PM

FrancoFile: That's what happens when you divide the ADA by zero.


This.
 
2013-08-23 07:55:24 PM
Spring is trained to calm Shyanna and to walk on a tether attached to Shyanna so the girl cannot wander.

In Soviet America dog walks you!


doglover: You're supposed to give blind people dogs. Autistic kids need a different animal so we can differentiate disabilities easily. If everyone's walking around with labs, society's gonna collapse.

I vote sloths.


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2013-08-23 07:55:47 PM
First, dogs for mental issues aren't service dogs.


Second, so it's OK to feel bad for the tard's handicap, but fark the teacher for having a physical issue? That's the consistency I'd expect from FARK

There's a lot more real science proving allergies than psychology.
 
2013-08-23 07:56:18 PM
Wow! Took 5 comments in that comments section to blame the unions! Kasich must be slacking!
 
2013-08-23 07:57:29 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Also, 20% of the kids in the district have diagnosed disabilities?  That seems awfully high.


It's central Ohio.  Seems low to me.
 
2013-08-23 07:58:06 PM

doglover: You're supposed to give blind people dogs. Autistic kids need a different animal so we can differentiate disabilities easily. If everyone's walking around with labs, society's gonna collapse.

I vote sloths.


I vote sloths for pretty much anything.
 
2013-08-23 07:59:17 PM
Maybe I'm worse than hitler for this but I don't see a problem here. Then again, I was in at least 7 different schools from 1-12 so I'm not exactly chuffed by it.

// nor do I do poorly with bus rides.
// in fact I'm just not an autistic little girl
// got a dog though.
 
2013-08-23 07:59:40 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Assigning her to a different school that can accommodate her IEP seems like a reasonable move.  Also, 20% of the kids in the district have diagnosed disabilities?  That seems awfully high.


Have you been in a school recently? Everyone's special.
 
2013-08-23 07:59:41 PM

OnlyM3: First, dogs for mental issues aren't service dogs.

Second, so it's OK to feel bad for the tard's handicap, but fark the teacher for having a physical issue? That's the consistency I'd expect from FARK

There's a lot more real science proving allergies than psychology.


This, this, and this.
 
2013-08-23 08:00:47 PM
And if she's allergic to dogs, then she's allergic to dogs. I know, right?!?
 
2013-08-23 08:02:41 PM
I love dogs, but I'm severely allergic to them too. My eyes swell up and get red and I can't breathe very well if I'm around them too much. Benadryl doesn't help. I'd have to suck on an inhaler if someone at work had a service dog.

I vote for sloth, too. Why do we discriminate against other animals? If I needed a service animal, I think I'd want a helper monkey or a miniature pony (depending upon the nature of my disability.)
 
2013-08-23 08:02:52 PM

OnlyM3: First, dogs for mental issues aren't service dogs.


Yes they are.  By both practical application and federal law.
 
2013-08-23 08:02:56 PM

OnlyM3: First, dogs for mental issues aren't service dogs.


Second, so it's OK to feel bad for the tard's handicap, but fark the teacher for having a physical issue? That's the consistency I'd expect from FARK

There's a lot more real science proving allergies than psychology.


Autism is pretty well established condition.  If having the dog there helps her focus, I don't see a problem with it, but since it's her that requires the dog her parents should be willing compromise and send her to the school where it won't cause problems for others.

Not that there aren't some ridiculous service animals out there, I seem to remember something about a non-mentally-disabled girl in college suing because they wouldn't let her take her anti-anxiety hamster to class.
 
2013-08-23 08:05:18 PM
As some one who suffers from several different allergies, and has been forced to both live and work around allergens, I'm %100 behind the teacher on this one. Add allergies to work pressures and or sleepless nights because your head is clogged up, and you start to think primarily of murder / suicide scenarios. Also, special ed kids are hard enough to work with as it is, even one on one. Give the teacher a farking break on this one.
 
2013-08-23 08:06:56 PM
Maybe the snowflake learns that the world doesn't revolve around her, and she can't have everything changed just for her?
Maybe the parents learn that it's their responsibility to care for their child, and no one else has to give a flying fark about them?

Your kid is broken, fine.  I don't care, I don't have to care, and I'm not changing my life so your defect can be happy.
 
2013-08-23 08:09:13 PM
Everyone needs a farking service dog these days.  If I see one for someone that isn't obviously PTSD or crippled, I just make a scene and say I'm allergic.  fark you guys.
 
2013-08-23 08:09:19 PM
Is she allergic to the raw dog?
 
2013-08-23 08:16:37 PM
They had to make one of them move, and it was easier to move the girl than to make both teachers move, disrupting the teachers' relationships with their other students.

That said, if I had known that certain teachers of mine were allergic to dogs, I would have given my dogs a great big hug every morning before heading off school.
 
2013-08-23 08:16:53 PM
When I was in the 2nd grade we had a caged rabbit in our classroom for some reason or another that I was terribly allergic to.  I had crippling asthma from the thing before they finally moved me to the other side of the room.

For the rest of the year I was only slightly miserable all day and I guess that was considered a good compromise, because they couldnt just get rid of the rabbit, oh no.

Apparently 2nd graders require a certain amount of snuggle time with a filthy farking rodent every day and my health issues were a secondary concern.

I guess what I'm saying is the teacher needs to stop being allergic to dogs so subby can withdraw the asinine tag from this story.
 
2013-08-23 08:19:17 PM

megarian: I vote sloths for pretty much anything.


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2013-08-23 08:19:57 PM
Mom with snow flake with special needs meet teacher with special needs, Now fark off and take your kid to the other school!
 
2013-08-23 08:21:24 PM
They have a legal obligation to accommodate both, period.  They offered a solution, and it seems like a reasonable one, if it's true the two schools are not that far apart.

This could have gone three viable ways:
1) Teacher and student in separate rooms in the same school
2) Teacher teaches at a different school
3) Student attends a different school

If the allergy is very bad, and there is a chance of encountering each other on the premises, then 1 is not a very good solution.  Between 2 and 3, presumably the teacher will be around longer than the student, so 3 makes more sense.  Sure, it's slightly more inconvenient for the student's family, but at least they are offering a fair alternative for her.  I imagine other schools would just tell her tough cookies.
 
2013-08-23 08:21:32 PM

OnlyM3: First, dogs for mental issues aren't service dogs.
Second, so it's OK to feel bad for the tard's handicap, but fark the teacher for having a physical issue? That's the consistency I'd expect from FARK
There's a lot more real science proving allergies than psychology.


You're trying waaaaay too hard.
 
2013-08-23 08:22:24 PM
I wonder if Charlie Brown was actually autistic and Snoopy was his service dog.
 
2013-08-23 08:24:23 PM

Fade2black: Everyone needs a farking service dog these days.  If I see one for someone that isn't obviously PTSD or crippled, I just make a scene and say I'm allergic.  fark you guys.


That's nice dear. You do have a note from an allergist, right?
 
2013-08-23 08:24:27 PM
This absolutely reeks of parent attention-whoring.

Rather than send their daughter to the other elementary, Gretz, 27, and her husband plan to keep Shyanna at home in The Plains for now, and use online courses for instruction.

Good. Your child's needs don't trump everyone else's needs. If you really cared about your child's education, you should have no problem with changing to a school that's 5 miles away.

"She does not do well with buses," Gretz said.

Well, if you really cared about your child's well-being, how about making arrangements to take her to school, but I guess that would be too inconvenient for you. She's "special needs", but not special enough for you to go out of your way to help your own farking daughter. Ugh.
 
2013-08-23 08:25:01 PM

stainedglassdoll: They have a legal obligation to accommodate both, period.  They offered a solution, and it seems like a reasonable one, if it's true the two schools are not that far apart.

This could have gone three viable ways:
1) Teacher and student in separate rooms in the same school
2) Teacher teaches at a different school
3) Student attends a different school

If the allergy is very bad, and there is a chance of encountering each other on the premises, then 1 is not a very good solution.  Between 2 and 3, presumably the teacher will be around longer than the student, so 3 makes more sense.  Sure, it's slightly more inconvenient for the student's family, but at least they are offering a fair alternative for her.  I imagine other schools would just tell her tough cookies.


My real question is what the hell is a dog gonna do for autism in a classroom setting that will be worth the problems of having an animal in the classroom? The dog might be trained, but the kids aren't. They're going to be distracted by the dog every time something happens to make it react, even if the dog's totally professional and quiet.
 
2013-08-23 08:25:30 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: I wonder if Charlie Brown was actually autistic and Snoopy was his service dog.


Which makes pulling the football away even more hilarious.
 
2013-08-23 08:26:52 PM
what would happen if the kid was allergic to the teachers service dog?
 
2013-08-23 08:29:57 PM

Earguy: OnlyM3: First, dogs for mental issues aren't service dogs.

Yes they are.  By both practical application and federal law.


Then is should be only dogs that have hair and not fur, like poodles, Maltese, Schnauzer, Airedale,  Portuguese water dog, etc. That way there would be less problems.
 
2013-08-23 08:30:07 PM
The law requires accommodation and education, but doesn't say that the parents get to decide where, when, or how their kids are educated. Parents complain about their kid's locations/teachers/curriculum all the time, and you can't accommodate individuals at the expense of the rest of the school.
 
2013-08-23 08:32:31 PM
I'm okay with this.

I'd be even more okay with them giving her a little horse.
 
2013-08-23 08:32:45 PM

KimNorth: Then is should be only dogs that have hair and not fur, like poodles, Maltese, Schnauzer, Airedale,  Portuguese water dog, etc. That way there would be less problems.


This is a good idea, but doesn't totally eliminate allergy problems. Some people are allergic to dog saliva, for example.

I'm allergic to dogs and the hair-types still give me problems, but not as much as the fur-types.
 
2013-08-23 08:33:53 PM

Fubini: The law requires accommodation and education, but doesn't say that the parents get to decide where, when, or how their kids are educated. Parents complain about their kid's locations/teachers/curriculum all the time, and you can't accommodate individuals at the expense of the rest of the school.


Your new school will now be a 3 hour drive away, class starts at 6am.
 
2013-08-23 08:35:55 PM

Joe USer: Fubini: The law requires accommodation and education, but doesn't say that the parents get to decide where, when, or how their kids are educated. Parents complain about their kid's locations/teachers/curriculum all the time, and you can't accommodate individuals at the expense of the rest of the school.

Your new school will now be a 3 hour drive away, class starts at 6am.


Way to hyperbole.
 
2013-08-23 08:36:43 PM

doglover: My real question is what the hell is a dog gonna do for autism in a classroom setting that will be worth the problems of having an animal in the classroom? The dog might be trained, but the kids aren't. They're going to be distracted by the dog every time something happens to make it react, even if the dog's totally professional and quiet.


That is not an issue past the first day or so. A teacher in my kids' school trains service dogs for school settings. You'd be surprised how quickly even the young kids get used to the dogs. Especially when they are given clear rules and told that they are helping to train the animals. The dog very quickly becomes just part of the class.
 
2013-08-23 08:37:17 PM

Joe USer: Fubini: The law requires accommodation and education, but doesn't say that the parents get to decide where, when, or how their kids are educated. Parents complain about their kid's locations/teachers/curriculum all the time, and you can't accommodate individuals at the expense of the rest of the school.

Your new school will now be a 3 hour drive away, class starts at 6am.


Except that the new school is 5 miles away, and the parents seem to have no desire to deal with this.
 
2013-08-23 08:37:51 PM
Rozinante: TuteTibiImperes: Assigning her to a different school that can accommodate her IEP seems like a reasonable move.  Also, 20% of the kids in the district have diagnosed disabilities?  That seems awfully high.
Have you been in a school recently?
Everyone's special.


YOU'RE UNIQUE!!

Just like eeeeeverybody else
 
2013-08-23 08:38:32 PM

namegoeshere: That is not an issue past the first day or so.


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2013-08-23 08:39:16 PM

OnlyM3: First, dogs for mental issues aren't service dogs.


I assume this same line of reasoning leads you to conclude that germ theory is just a conspiracy among poor people to try and force the rich to pay for running water in the slums?

/ Please be a troll
 
2013-08-23 08:41:21 PM
Spring is trained to calm Shyanna and to walk on a tether attached to Shyanna so the girl cannot wander.

She needs to learn to be calm.  That seems like something a special ed teacher would be trained to facilitate.  I would also hope the teachers and administrators could fill the "keep the girl from wandering off" role while she's there.

Someone tell Charla Gretz to sit down and shut up or this is only the first of many, many entitlements she will be claiming.
 
2013-08-23 08:45:59 PM
Our current education system seems so ass backward. Spend buckoo bucks on the special kids. A special bus, classroom of 7 kids (according to great aunt in the comments) specially trained teachers, gets to bring her doggie to school (someone has to take that doggie out for a potty break sometime during the day and I'm sure it's not the 6 yr old) while the average or above average student is lucky if they have text books that aren't 20 years old.
I guess it just mirrors our society.
But seriously, seems like to we need to start focusing some resources on people that are actually going to contribute to society in the future.
 
2013-08-23 08:47:05 PM

oh_please: Well, if you really cared about your child's well-being, how about making arrangements to take her to school, but I guess that would be too inconvenient for you. She's "special needs", but not special enough for you to go out of your way to help your own farking daughter. Ugh.


Seriously.  I changed jobs for 6 farking years so I could have one of my kids go to a school that starts at 9am, and be with them and send them off in the morning.  Not many jobs are OK with people coming in at 9:45.  It was worth it, I ain't biatchin.
 
2013-08-23 08:48:05 PM
FTFA: Federal law is clear that schools cannot turn away a student using a service dog because a teacher or another student is allergic, Clark said.

A Terrible Human: Take some benadryl or get a script for vistaril and gbtw.


So, what is this: Fu*ck the people with allergies, everybody else's problems take precedence? A teacher should not be forced to take a medication because one of her students has a goddamned service animal. Assign the student to a class where the teacher -- and hopefully the other students -- are not allergic to the animal. Jeebus H. Christmas on a cracker!

As for the mother in TFA... Tough sh*it. The whole point of having your daughter attend school is for her to learn and hopefully assimilate into society as much as possible. If she's going to do that, then she should be able to get used to the additional stress of having to sit on the bus for a few more minutes. The argument could be made that if your daughter is that sensitive to change then perhaps she shouldn't even be attending a public school.
 
2013-08-23 08:48:08 PM

Brave: Spend buckoo bucks


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