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(East Bay Express)   Old and busted: cronuts and twogging. The latest craze and emerging moral dilemma is... Pod Coffee   (eastbayexpress.com) divider line 198
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2013-08-24 12:18:06 AM  
Bunch of pantywaists in here. I grab a hand full of beans, pop them into my mouth and chew them up, follow with a cup of hot water.
That's how coffee gets done.
 
2013-08-24 12:21:32 AM  

SVenus: Nespresso for the douch-ey win!

I have this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5JBNxCzDeQ

And the all aluminum capsules run about $0.70 each. But on this version, the milk frothing is worth every penny.

It's the humvee of waste when it comes to coffee making.


LOL!
/NTTAWWT
 
2013-08-24 12:22:21 AM  
Pods are definitely not my thing. If anything I continue to go back in time with my coffee consumption, as I've now moved to a percolator.  Favorite coffee is millstone columbian, coarse ground.  I love the simplicity of the percolator, I could care fark all about the environment though I do love to call out people who want to biatch about the environment while on their third keurig cup of the day at work.
 
2013-08-24 12:23:57 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Bunch of pantywaists in here. I grab a hand full of beans, pop them into my mouth and chew them up, follow with a cup of hot water.
That's how coffee gets done.


Oh, you chew them?

Well. La-de-da.
 
2013-08-24 12:24:53 AM  
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Bought a Rancilio Silvia in ~2006. A few months later I hacked on a PID controller. Easily the best coffee investments I've made.

/also own a Rancilio grinder
//and a Nesco coffee roaster
 
2013-08-24 12:27:08 AM  
what? so gay people are wasteful and produce copious amounts of trash?
 
2013-08-24 12:30:02 AM  
I've tried about dozen different flavors from different companies and the only the only thing that's come out of the Keurig that I've genuinely enjoyed was at someone's house who was using good coffee in a reusable filter. Hell, freshly ground cheap Dunkin Donuts beans taste good out of a Keurig. The stuff that's been sitting in those pods for months does not.

I get that it's cheaper and more convenient than a coffee shop, but it's also more expensive and less convenient than cold brewing which is my easy method of choice.
 
2013-08-24 12:30:26 AM  

MrEricSir: //and a Nesco coffee roaster


Oh, and before anyone asks -- if you want to try roasting your own coffee, check out Sweet Maria's. They sell raw, unroasted beans and have a ton of great info on their site.

Also you don't *need* to buy a special roaster, you can use certain types of popcorn poppers, a toaster oven, or even a stovetop. But I wouldn't recommend any of those options if you live in an apartment or condo as they really stink up the place. Devices made just for roasting coffee are a better bet if you care about the smell.
 
2013-08-24 12:31:41 AM  

phedex: Pods are definitely not my thing. If anything I continue to go back in time with my coffee consumption, as I've now moved to a percolator.  Favorite coffee is millstone columbian, coarse ground.  I love the simplicity of the percolator, I could care fark all about the environment though I do love to call out people who want to biatch about the environment while on their third keurig cup of the day at work.


Percolated coffee is pretty damn close to cowboy coffee (water and coffee bean bits heated on a skillet).  I've had to break out my camping percolator when between the standard coffee makers.  It's ok, I don't mind a few grounds up in my grille.

www.ladyandtheblog.com
 
2013-08-24 12:33:29 AM  

TheRameres: Vlad_the_Inaner: /you can even get a metal filter to avoid the disposable paper

This was the single greatest purchase I ever made on Amazon. I look forward to every 2:00 at work, and get nothing but compliments on the aroma that's created when brewing.

Fark this makes me want a cup now.


+1

The best coffee I've ever had at home was with the Aeropress.
 
2013-08-24 12:36:27 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: /you can even get a metal filter to avoid the disposable paper


I got one last Christmas, it's pretty fricken awesome.
I brought it to AK for the boat, as we drink endless amounts of coffee. It provided great coffee, and entertainment as it looks like a bong/junkies rig/penis pump....yeah, we are immature idiots.
 
2013-08-24 12:37:58 AM  
Coffee from a Keurig sucks.  Forget about the waste and all that.  It's just not any good.  If you use your own coffee it gets better, but the pods suck.

Be a real person and spend 45 seconds making your coffee, if you need coffee in the morning.
 
2013-08-24 12:38:02 AM  
I just finished drinking a refreshing expresso drink.

4 oz espresso from my super-automatic (good beans, of course)
A few ice cubes
Fill the shaker with Irish Cream.
Shake until the ice is melted

Poor in a pint glass and drink

I think I'll have another.
 
2013-08-24 12:38:22 AM  
plain old french press works fine. it is really good grind and water, at the proper temperature.
 
2013-08-24 12:38:40 AM  

OgreMagi: I just finished drinking a refreshing expresso drink.



I should be whipped for that.  Espresso, damn it.
 
2013-08-24 12:41:59 AM  

Ker_Thwap: I love the coffee in little plastic pods craze.  That way I can continue to mock the "save the planet" generation for such an abysmally wasteful concept.  It's awesome reading about all the little justifications people use to do something stupid.  Me, me, me!


Er, you do realize the "generation" you're complaining about has been around for like 40 years?

Obligatory XKCD
 
2013-08-24 12:43:39 AM  
what grinds my gears are dickwads at work that drink the last cup but are too lazy to start a new pot.

farmers brothers (i think it is an institutional brand) is darn good.

of course i would like blue mountain all the time....
 
2013-08-24 12:44:40 AM  

Aar1012: It's not that difficult to use the reusable cup. Hell, I prefer the reusable because I like how I grind my coffee


This. When I got my Keurig (Christmas gift from Mrs. Addict), she had the forethought to get the reusable filter. Sure, I use the KCups when I'm in a hurry, but when given my druthers, I'll grind up some fresh and REALLY enjoy it.
 
2013-08-24 12:44:46 AM  

TOSViolation: Proof that you're an idiot:

You've ever told someone they shouldn't like the taste of something because you don't like the taste of it.


I told one of my fellow alter boys that he should avoid father Murphy cause his balls tasted like bushmills and cabbage farts, I was just trying to protect him...guess I'm an idiot?
 
2013-08-24 12:47:09 AM  
I stick my tongue into a small jar of freeze dried Folgers and dissolve it with saliva in a pinch.  You have the right to feel superior in comparison now.
 
2013-08-24 12:54:21 AM  

megarian: I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah


I don't farking know. Seemed just as relevant.


His voice is rich, smooth, and dark....like a well brewed cup of coffee.

/or a NBA player at the club at an away game on ladies night.
 
2013-08-24 12:55:40 AM  
Popular Opinion:
of course i would like blue mountain all the time....

That's the only thing I put in my espresso maker.  It's my one great indulgence.  In my defense, when I first started drinking it I was getting it at the low price of $50 for three pounds, which really isn't that much more than regular coffee beans.  The bastards keep raising the price and I keep buying it.

http://www.jablumcoffee.com/product_info.php/100-jamaica-blue-mounta in -whole-beans-16oz-espresso-roast-p-59
 
2013-08-24 01:00:55 AM  
when i was working overseas (wales), the staff got upset that the building management was replacing the nescafe instant coffee with some no-name brand.

i couldn't believe they drank instant coffee, every day, on purpose, not because they ran out of real coffee, or were sailing on a boat....

but they were right. the cheap stuff was worse.

i learned to drink tea. i even was able to drink it with milk and sugar it somebody made it that way.
 
2013-08-24 01:02:20 AM  
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2013-08-24 01:02:41 AM  

Popular Opinion: when i was working overseas (wales), the staff got upset that the building management was replacing the nescafe instant coffee with some no-name brand.

i couldn't believe they drank instant coffee, every day, on purpose, not because they ran out of real coffee, or were sailing on a boat....

but they were right. the cheap stuff was worse.

i learned to drink tea. i even was able to drink it with milk and sugar it somebody made it that way.


I remember being in a private home in Budapest and being offered Nescafe as if it was some kind of big deal.  I politely accepted and choked that nasty shiat down with a smile because in real life I am not an asshole (unlike on the internet).
 
2013-08-24 01:03:32 AM  

OgreMagi: Popular Opinion:
of course i would like blue mountain all the time....

That's the only thing I put in my espresso maker.  It's my one great indulgence.  In my defense, when I first started drinking it I was getting it at the low price of $50 for three pounds, which really isn't that much more than regular coffee beans.  The bastards keep raising the price and I keep buying it.

http://www.jablumcoffee.com/product_info.php/100-jamaica-blue-mounta in -whole-beans-16oz-espresso-roast-p-59


i'm jealous. =/
 
2013-08-24 01:05:28 AM  
It's worth it to me because I never drink a pot of coffee and nobody else in my house likes the stuff.  They do make filter pouches that create less waste and they also taste better.

aspAddict: she had the forethought to get the reusable filter.


I have one of those and for whatever reason it just doesn't work very well.
 
2013-08-24 01:11:35 AM  
anyway...i'll drink a whole pot of coffee, or half a pot at least, if i make it in the morning.
and i don't really drink coffee in the evening, unless maybe if i am eating out and have coffee with dessert.
i'd have to pop 3-4 or those pods at least.
 
2013-08-24 01:16:14 AM  

louiedog: I've tried about dozen different flavors from different companies and the only the only thing that's come out of the Keurig that I've genuinely enjoyed was at someone's house who was using good coffee in a reusable filter. Hell, freshly ground cheap Dunkin Donuts beans taste good out of a Keurig. The stuff that's been sitting in those pods for months does not.

I get that it's cheaper and more convenient than a coffee shop, but it's also more expensive and less convenient than cold brewing which is my easy method of choice.


Cold-brew FTW.  What's your recipe?  I use 75g of the most coarsely-ground beans I can get with 650 mL of water.  Run through a french press after 8 hours of chill-time yields 500mL of final product (+/-25mL).  This is enough rocket fuel for two to three days for me.  I really, really like it, but I feel like I could (should) get more than one batch out of the coffee.  But then I worry that the second run would be far too weak...
 
2013-08-24 01:43:39 AM  
Emerging since 2002 no less.
 
2013-08-24 02:00:36 AM  
I like tea.
 
2013-08-24 02:07:59 AM  

whatshisname: Every cup of coffee I'd had out of a pod coffee maker in an office has the flavour of someones Caramel Cheesecake flavoured coffee or whatever the last abomination they brewed in it was. The retain the artificial taste of those flavoured coffees no matter how many normal brews you put through it.


In my old office was some sort of leftover french roast or hazelnut aroma crap in your coffee, no matter what strength of regular coffee you attempted to brew -- it tasted like 'lifestyle coffee'.

Like many here,  I thus discovered the coffee press,  and a nearby hot water dispenser. Life was good. New jerb, I'm working with engineers, and we brew regular coffee as an expression of defiance to the 22 flavored coffee machine down the hall.
 
2013-08-24 02:15:08 AM  

ravenlore: Our office JUST got a Keurig. Like Wednesday. This evening I did buy a dozen pods with which to experiment. If I can get it to brew strong enough that it doesn't become dishwater when iced, I'll buy the reusable filters and my own coffee. The fine line for me is: as a single person who would drink about 24-30 oz a day of iced coffee, which is LEAST wasteful, from both a financial and environmental perspective? A large package might be cost effective at time of purchase, but will go stale. Factory-sealed pods are less likely to go stale, but are expensive and fodder for landfill.


Never quite understood the problem of stale coffee. Keep whole beans sealed, keep grounds frozen.
Brewed coffee is good for 2-4 hours. Sometimes I'll drink it next day if it's there and I'm feeling lazy. No biggie.
Folgers from the drip machine is $0.04 per cup, so even if I throw out half, it's still far cheaper than k-cups.
 
2013-08-24 02:21:17 AM  

E5bie: Folgers from the drip machine is $0.04 per cup


They're going to have to pay me a lot more than four cents a cup if they want me to drink that shiat.
 
2013-08-24 02:38:05 AM  
Pod coffee is waaay older than cronuts.
 
2013-08-24 02:40:36 AM  

Landis: Cold-brew FTW. What's your recipe? I use 75g of the most coarsely-ground beans I can get with 650 mL of water. Run through a french press after 8 hours of chill-time yields 500mL of final product (+/-25mL). This is enough rocket fuel for two to three days for me. I really, really like it, but I feel like I could (should) get more than one batch out of the coffee. But then I worry that the second run would be far too weak...


The place I used to work at was like.. 5 pounds / 3 gallons, at room temperature for 20 hours, then drain. That works out to 130 g for 650 mL. But it comes out really strong and you can dilute it 1/3 or pour it over ice.
 
2013-08-24 02:41:55 AM  

Dragonflew: OK, I think the internet needs to be put on pause for a couple of weeks. I just heard of a cronut a few days ago, and have no freakin' clue (until I go back and RTFT) what the other thing is.


What's wrong with this cronut thing? I just looked it up, and it sounds pretty good. A light, flaky donut? I'd try that. I often get a donut or a muffin for breakfast during the workweek, and I'd have one of those if I saw one at the store. I'm not sure why the concept has offended you.

Twogging, on the other hand, that's just Republican-grade stupid. "Twerking" on your dog, I can't even understand what would make this a "thing" even for one person, let alone enough to make it a "craze that's sweeping the Internet", as the story I just read assured me that it was. I'd shoot my kids if they started doing something so idiotic, because it would be a mercy. Nothing says "I can't get a job other than standing on the street corner with a "Open House" sign." like shaking your ass on your dog for the sole purpose of putting a video of it on the internet. Of course, I think the whole twerking thing is pretty stupid in the first place.
 
2013-08-24 02:43:42 AM  
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What?
 
2013-08-24 02:45:05 AM  

cptjeff: If you really need single cups, why not just get a kettle and a small french press like the rest of the planet?

Oh, and by the way, you're paying more to get many, many fewer brews than you would with either a french press or just making yourself a small pot. Ever heard of a 4 cup coffeemaker?

Actually, the real draw for these things seems to be the presweetened instant coffee drinks that you can make. You know, the ones that are basically just that instant cappuccino powder?


Ever heard of an office where you don't really have a place to store your french press or plug in 4 cup coffee makers for 125 different people? Sorry, I see where these things come in handy, and I don't even drink coffee. If I did, I sure wouldn't want to have to compromise with a bunch of other people on what I drank, as well as synchronize my schedule with them.

I'm also curious how much less coffee and water gets wasted this way...
 
2013-08-24 02:51:08 AM  

johnnieconnie: What is a cronut and twogging!?

/too drunk RTFA


Apparently, a cronut is basically a donut made with croissant dough. Not sure why Subby thinks it needs to be mocked next to Twogging, which is doing that twerking thing with a dog involved. Subby's mockery towards THAT is fully understood.
 
2013-08-24 03:25:56 AM  

Lsherm: legion_of_doo: i have a french press at work, but the issue is grinding the beans (kinda noisy) and also cleaning the thing (because I don't want to clog the sink, so I put the used grounds in the compost bin).

You have a compost bin at your office?  Doesn't that stink like hell?


California.

We have like 4 or 5 different kinds of garbage to sort. Seriously, even at McDonald's, you go up to the trash, and it's like utter madness because you have to read through the garbage instructions so you put the right garbage in the right bin.

At the office (not McDonald's. I don't say "Do you want fries with that" as part of my job)... Paper towels, coffee grounds, certain other things go in the (green) compostable bin. Then the plastics & aluminum in another bin. There's the office paper bin. Then there's the landfill bin.

(Presumably, the janitorial staff has collection bins for all of that stuff. They could dump every bin into the same garbage bin for all I know.)

Of course, the offices I've been in with the keurig... it's one trash bin, and maybe a blue bin for recycles, because fark the planet or whatever.

/I also have a reusable canister thing for my keurig at home
/nuke the whales!
 
2013-08-24 03:40:54 AM  

legion_of_doo: Lsherm: legion_of_doo: i have a french press at work, but the issue is grinding the beans (kinda noisy) and also cleaning the thing (because I don't want to clog the sink, so I put the used grounds in the compost bin).

You have a compost bin at your office?  Doesn't that stink like hell?

California.

We have like 4 or 5 different kinds of garbage to sort. Seriously, even at McDonald's, you go up to the trash, and it's like utter madness because you have to read through the garbage instructions so you put the right garbage in the right bin.

At the office (not McDonald's. I don't say "Do you want fries with that" as part of my job)... Paper towels, coffee grounds, certain other things go in the (green) compostable bin. Then the plastics & aluminum in another bin. There's the office paper bin. Then there's the landfill bin.

(Presumably, the janitorial staff has collection bins for all of that stuff. They could dump every bin into the same garbage bin for all I know.)

Of course, the offices I've been in with the keurig... it's one trash bin, and maybe a blue bin for recycles, because fark the planet or whatever.

/I also have a reusable canister thing for my keurig at home
/nuke the whales!


I'd say odds are 50/50 that all that stuff gets dumped into the same container and then gets sorted at a facility.  I have yet to work on any public project that trusts the public to do what's expected.  People could throw plastic into the compost bin, then what?

After the ridiculous cost of the pods, I tried the reusable copper filter for the Keurig, but again, if you drink a lot of coffee, it doesn't make any sense.  You're cleaning a filter for every cup you make.  It just got tiring.

I had an old Cuisinart Grind and Brew that made coffee directly into a thermal carafe:

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and I went back to it.  Keeps the coffee hot for as long as I need to drink it and makes all I need in the morning.  I'm lazy, so I quit using the grind because I didn't like cleaning out the grinder or the chute.  But using regular ground coffee like Yuban?  It works just fine.
 
2013-08-24 03:53:53 AM  

MrEricSir: MrEricSir: //and a Nesco coffee roaster

Oh, and before anyone asks -- if you want to try roasting your own coffee, check out Sweet Maria's. They sell raw, unroasted beans and have a ton of great info on their site.

Also you don't *need* to buy a special roaster, you can use certain types of popcorn poppers, a toaster oven, or even a stovetop. But I wouldn't recommend any of those options if you live in an apartment or condo as they really stink up the place. Devices made just for roasting coffee are a better bet if you care about the smell.


I prefer Gillies for green beans.  I get a single region bean in the 25 pound size and end up paying less than $4.00 per pound for fresh roasted coffee...delivered.  Currently it's Tanzania Peaberry.

I use a popper/Galloping Gourmet grill roaster in the shed.  I can run it inside with the vent fan running full tilt.  It's the older style vent hood with a jet engine that actually vents out the roof.  Try it in an apartment, and you're going to piss a lot of people off.  You will also end up picking chafe out of things for the next 5 years.
 
2013-08-24 04:05:11 AM  
Kona+french press=ftw
 
2013-08-24 04:15:27 AM  

kevinatilusa: I've been pretty happy with the Clever Coffee Dripper

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Put coffee and hot water in a filter, wait about 4 minutes, then put the dripper on top of a cup and the coffee comes out the bottom.  For cleanup, just toss the filter and rinse out the dripper.


Totally with you on this. Had a boarder leave his behind a few months back. Used it every morning since then. And yep, the cleanup takes all of 6 seconds.
 
2013-08-24 05:22:32 AM  
Apparently there's 6 of those little baskets in this box.  It's less than $9.00 at amazon.

Pack me a bowl.

snag.gy
 
2013-08-24 05:35:09 AM  

tuna fingers: phedex: Pods are definitely not my thing. If anything I continue to go back in time with my coffee consumption, as I've now moved to a percolator.  Favorite coffee is millstone columbian, coarse ground.  I love the simplicity of the percolator, I could care fark all about the environment though I do love to call out people who want to biatch about the environment while on their third keurig cup of the day at work.

Percolated coffee is pretty damn close to cowboy coffee (water and coffee bean bits heated on a skillet).  I've had to break out my camping percolator when between the standard coffee makers.  It's ok, I don't mind a few grounds up in my grille.

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My bad coffee is partly responsible for my extended bachelor status, but it did reveal to me the secret of the Monolith Monsters.
 
2013-08-24 05:47:52 AM  
Cronuts and

twogging don't even deserve to be in the same paragraph.  Cronuts sound kind of awesome.  Twogging would be something straight out of Idiocracy, if not for the difficulty in suspending disbelief that humans could become that stupid.
 
2013-08-24 06:48:15 AM  
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2013-08-24 07:04:41 AM  
you need the giant economy size
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