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2013-08-23 06:35:07 PM  
Guess it is cheaper to just pile tickets onto it than tow it, wait a month, then sell it at auction.
 
2013-08-23 06:35:15 PM  
So it included a weekend?
 
2013-08-23 06:41:40 PM  
The old parking ticket game.

Had a friend who's car was stolen one night in a suburb of Chicago and found abandoned less than 10 miles away in another suburb. He reported it stolen the following morning to the local police. However for some reason the police in the town it was abandoned in didn't know it was stolen and for 4 months they ticketed the hell out of his car. He didn't know about the tickets until he was sent a notice from the town telling him that his car had been towed. When he went to get his car he found out that he had over 40 tickets on his car, dating back to two days after he had reported it missing.
 
2013-08-23 06:43:29 PM  
Once worked with a guy so dumb that he thought if he put an old ticket on his car he wouldn't get any new ones.
 
2013-08-23 06:43:52 PM  

"Under the terms of the settlement, her ex-boyfriend Brandon Preveau will reimburse her $1,600, with Ms Fitzgerald paying the rest on a monthly plan."


So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much. Her ex should have to pay it all if anything.

 
2013-08-23 06:47:33 PM  

skinink: So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much. Her ex should have to pay it all if anything.


If you recall the original/previous articles on this...  IIRC, he was an airport employee who broke up with her and stole her car, then parked it in the employee only parking lot with no employee stickers.

And then they spent months ticketing it instead of towing it.  And wouldn't let her go get the car.
 
2013-08-23 06:48:01 PM  

skinink: "Under the terms of the settlement, her ex-boyfriend Brandon Preveau will reimburse her $1,600, with Ms Fitzgerald paying the rest on a monthly plan."
So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much. Her ex should have to pay it all if anything.


This is why you never let anybody that isn't going to be legally held equally financially responsible for all fines and legal actions that may result from the car borrow it. If somebody isn't going be immediately held responsible or have to suffer consequences because of a fine or legal action, they won't care.
 
2013-08-23 06:52:17 PM  
The wreck of the Jennifer Fitzgerald.
 
2013-08-23 06:53:30 PM  
...and that's when the C.H.U.D.S came
 
2013-08-23 06:54:33 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: skinink: So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much. Her ex should have to pay it all if anything.

If you recall the original/previous articles on this...  IIRC, he was an airport employee who broke up with her and stole her car, then parked it in the employee only parking lot with no employee stickers.

And then they spent months ticketing it instead of towing it.  And wouldn't let her go get the car.


It wasn't stolen, he bought it from her uncle and registered it in her name without her knowledge.
 
2013-08-23 06:55:53 PM  

skinink: So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much.


The people who ticketed it more than three times should have to pay the full $100,000 fine and buy her a new car.

The boyfriend should be pilloried at nose level in a sauerkraut and chili eating festival for one week.
 
2013-08-23 06:56:57 PM  

fusillade762: Once worked with a guy so dumb that he thought if he put an old ticket on his car he wouldn't get any new ones.


I did that at school. It worked for about 3 weeks.
 
2013-08-23 06:57:13 PM  

Hoopy Frood: It wasn't stolen, he bought it from her uncle and registered it in her name without her knowledge.


Okay, three weeks. First week sauerkraut and brats, second week chili, third week curry.
 
2013-08-23 06:57:37 PM  
I lived in Chicago and had a green car parked across the street from a brown car of the same model (although different year) that had about 40 tickets as it had been abandoned, fast forward and guess whose car is towed while the other one sits with its front end sticking out into traffic for the sixth month in a row?

So I go down to impound and are told the rules of an appeal which basically require me to pay the fine and towing fee but leaving my car behind with the possibility (read promise) that I would have to pay more storage fees while my car sat there waiting for the hearing, let alone the probability that my car would be ruined in the storage yard.

I swallow hard and pay the fee and end up parking at home and a day later seeing that damn brown car get towed.  Basically fark the Chicago police and their towing services.
 
2013-08-23 06:59:45 PM  
One more ticket until I'm boot eligible in Philly(accumulated in Manayunk)

/ only go there to visit family on Christmas
// I won't even get on Parking Wars if they get me
/// enjoy my Florida driveway and still hate PPA
 
2013-08-23 07:04:27 PM  

Hoopy Frood: Satanic_Hamster: skinink: So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much. Her ex should have to pay it all if anything.

If you recall the original/previous articles on this...  IIRC, he was an airport employee who broke up with her and stole her car, then parked it in the employee only parking lot with no employee stickers.

And then they spent months ticketing it instead of towing it.  And wouldn't let her go get the car.

It wasn't stolen, he bought it from her uncle and registered it in her name without her knowledge.


How did he manage to register it in her name without her permission, you need I.D to register a car.
 
2013-08-23 07:06:41 PM  
One would think that someone writing the umpteenth ticket might wonder if the owner was the victim of a crime. A little sleuthing by the police, all problems solved.
 
2013-08-23 07:07:20 PM  

interstellar_tedium: Basically fark the Chicago police and their towing services.

 
2013-08-23 07:07:42 PM  

ongbok: Hoopy Frood: Satanic_Hamster: skinink: So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much. Her ex should have to pay it all if anything.

If you recall the original/previous articles on this...  IIRC, he was an airport employee who broke up with her and stole her car, then parked it in the employee only parking lot with no employee stickers.

And then they spent months ticketing it instead of towing it.  And wouldn't let her go get the car.

It wasn't stolen, he bought it from her uncle and registered it in her name without her knowledge.

How did he manage to register it in her name without her permission, you need I.D to register a car.




I bet he had her ID.
 
2013-08-23 07:09:35 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: One would think that someone writing the umpteenth ticket might wonder if the owner was the victim of a crime. A little sleuthing by the police, all problems solved.


That would require a detectable giveashiat from a government employee.
 
2013-08-23 07:12:21 PM  

ongbok: The old parking ticket game.

Had a friend who's car was stolen one night in a suburb of Chicago and found abandoned less than 10 miles away in another suburb. He reported it stolen the following morning to the local police. However for some reason the police in the town it was abandoned in didn't know it was stolen and for 4 months they ticketed the hell out of his car. He didn't know about the tickets until he was sent a notice from the town telling him that his car had been towed. When he went to get his car he found out that he had over 40 tickets on his car, dating back to two days after he had reported it missing.


Happened to a friend of mine here in DC.  His car got stolen, was ditched in some shiathole in SE DC, and was parked in the same spot for like 2 solid months.  On top of the parking violations, the VA inspection and registration lapsed, so they dinged him for it too.  Never once did he get a single thing in the mail too.

It FINNALY got towed, the police were notified, then he.  The total ticket amount plus late and admin fees was something like $16,000.

As I understand it, his auto insurance company took care of it for him, and got things all settled, but he had to go to court in VA and DC like 4 different times to get it all settled.

With the technology that exists today and the interconnectivity and sharing of info between police departments, it amazes me that shiat like that happens, even today...
 
2013-08-23 07:16:15 PM  
Don't you just love it when people can break the law and register a vehicle in someone else's name because the law is farked up and actually allows you to register a vehicle in someone else's name.

Ticket the car once, then tow 12-24 hours later if it still is there, while being in a non-dangerous, non-blocking parking position.

More money to be made writing tickets, without wasting that whole 30 minutes calling the tow truck, then waiting for the truck, and then sending it to the impound. Unless of course you get a kickback from the towing company for every vehicle you find parked kind of somewhat supposedly you know illegally on paper that you wrote all by yourself with no one to review those tickets that you are like writing 500% more than everyone else.
 
2013-08-23 07:16:43 PM  
$105,000 parking fine?

What did she do - park a main battle tank on top of a city office?
 
2013-08-23 07:21:20 PM  

clkeagle: $105,000 parking fine?

What did she do - park a main battle tank on top of a city office?


I am actually surprised that there is not some sort of law that maxes the amount of the total fine at the value of the car.
 
2013-08-23 07:30:26 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: skinink: So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much. Her ex should have to pay it all if anything.

If you recall the original/previous articles on this...  IIRC, he was an airport employee who broke up with her and stole her car, then parked it in the employee only parking lot with no employee stickers.

And then they spent months ticketing it instead of towing it.  And wouldn't let her go get the car.


Assuming it happened the way you described, it seems like he should be arrested for car theft.

TheHighlandHowler: One would think that someone writing the umpteenth ticket might wonder if the owner was the victim of a crime. A little sleuthing by the police, all problems solved.


I'd be willing to bet that every ticket goes into a computer database.  Assuming that's so, it should be trivial to cross reference with a "stolen cars" database.  The problem isn't that this is difficult to do, the problem is that the government would much rather write out $100,000 in tickets than help someone find their stolen car.
 
2013-08-23 07:31:58 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: One would think that someone writing the umpteenth ticket might wonder if the owner was the victim of a crime. A little sleuthing by the police, all problems solved.


Police are not here to solve crimes, they are here to collect taxes.
 
2013-08-23 07:32:29 PM  

Endive Wombat: clkeagle: $105,000 parking fine?

What did she do - park a main battle tank on top of a city office?

I am actually surprised that there is not some sort of law that maxes the amount of the total fine at the value of the car.


You realize that would mean hordes of vehicles would be exempt from tickets because they are in such disrepair that they are worthless except to the owner, right?
 
2013-08-23 07:36:09 PM  

Endive Wombat: I am actually surprised that there is not some sort of law that maxes the amount of the total fine at the value of the car.


You are?

Ticket laws exist SOLELY to gain the community money. That's why so many podunk shiatburgs in Texas with one road that happens to be the highway and populations of less than 50 people have a speed limit of 25. It's just goldbricking.
 
2013-08-23 07:46:36 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: One would think that someone writing the umpteenth ticket might wonder if the owner was the victim of a crime. A little sleuthing by the police, all problems solved.


Yeah, now we know where to park a trunked body.
 
2013-08-23 07:49:53 PM  

HempHead: ongbok: Hoopy Frood: Satanic_Hamster: skinink: So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much. Her ex should have to pay it all if anything.

If you recall the original/previous articles on this...  IIRC, he was an airport employee who broke up with her and stole her car, then parked it in the employee only parking lot with no employee stickers.

And then they spent months ticketing it instead of towing it.  And wouldn't let her go get the car.

It wasn't stolen, he bought it from her uncle and registered it in her name without her knowledge.

How did he manage to register it in her name without her permission, you need I.D to register a car.

I bet he had her ID.


Unless he was wearing a wig, lipstick and a dress, I still don't see how he registered it in her name without her knowing. It is much more likely that he bought a car, couldn't register it in his name because of fines or tickets so since she was his girlfriend, and she thought they would be together forever, she voluntarily went and registered it in her name so it would be legal.
 
2013-08-23 07:56:53 PM  

Hoopy Frood: It wasn't stolen, he bought it from her uncle and registered it in her name without her knowledge.


Doh, you are correct.

ongbok: Unless he was wearing a wig, lipstick and a dress, I still don't see how he registered it in her name without her knowing. It is much more likely that he bought a car, couldn't register it in his name because of fines or tickets so since she was his girlfriend, and she thought they would be together forever, she voluntarily went and registered it in her name so it would be legal.


Never underestimate the laziness and incompetence of some DMV workers.
 
2013-08-23 07:57:52 PM  
I've been hearing about this for a while now... and something doesn't quite jive with me....

Namely, how does someone register a car in someone else's name? If this were actually possible, then someone with a suspended license could go out and buy/register a car whenever the opportunity arose.
 
2013-08-23 08:01:05 PM  
The ex is a massive dick. He moved the car around that employee parking lot and removed tickets so no one would tow it and it'd keep getting tickets.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/chicago-review-womans-105000-parking-ticket -b ill/t/story?id=17829216
 
2013-08-23 08:04:49 PM  

Aristocles: I've been hearing about this for a while now... and something doesn't quite jive with me....

Namely, how does someone register a car in someone else's name? If this were actually possible, then someone with a suspended license could go out and buy/register a car whenever the opportunity arose.




http://www.dmv.org/il-illinois/car-registration.php


To register your vehicle, you need:


An Application for Vehicle Transaction (Form VSD 190), available at your local SOS office or online through the7 days to submit it to the SOS office, along with all required documentation.

Proof of Illinois residency.
The original title and registration.
A description of vehicle:Year, make, and model.Vehicle identification number (VIN).
Date of purchase and whether it's new or used.
The applicable tax form:Form RUT-50 Private Party Vehicle Tax Transaction, if purchased from a previous owner.Form RUT-25 Vehicle Use Tax Transaction Return, if purchased from a car dealer.
Payment for the registration and tax fees:
Registration fees: $101.
Title fees: $95.
Tax fees:
 based on value of the vehicle.

 
2013-08-23 08:21:27 PM  

Endive Wombat: it amazes me that shiat like that happens, even today...


Allow me to direct your attention to a possibly relevant portion of your post:

Endive Wombat: $16,000


It may interest you to know that parking tickets are not handled by the Department of Safety or even the Department of Vehicular Compliance.  They are handled by the Department of Revenue.
 
2013-08-24 12:06:06 AM  

JuggleGeek: I'd be willing to bet that every ticket goes into a computer database. Assuming that's so, it should be trivial to cross reference with a "stolen cars" database. The problem isn't that this is difficult to do, the problem is that the government would much rather write out $100,000 in tickets than help someone find their stolen car.


Why would anyone in government including the cops care about recovering some stolen car that's sitting parked somewhere? What's in it for them? The cops get no points for finding it. The department of revenue gets no revenue from finding it? What's in it for them? Their mission as government employees is to get as much for themselves and their employer as possible. Also cops are to enforce the government's will, not provide services recovering stolen property. Well they might recover it if they kept it, but to give it back to its rightful owner really isn't a big motivator.

However after enough tickets are on a car they might get to keep it. At the very least someone connected in the impound/towing system will.

Aristocles: I've been hearing about this for a while now... and something doesn't quite jive with me....

Namely, how does someone register a car in someone else's name? If this were actually possible, then someone with a suspended license could go out and buy/register a car whenever the opportunity arose.


Go into an SoS office, fill out the forms, hand them the money. That's how.
He would have to forge her signature on the title. No big deal though.
Cars sold to family members have lower taxes. He bought it from her uncle, in her name the Illinois department of revenue takes less of a bite.

I don't ever recall being asked for ID at an SoS office unless it was for a DL renewal. Don't recall ever needing it for title, plates, or stickers. Just forms and a check.
 
2013-08-24 12:14:44 AM  
Uh, geeze Subs, thanks for the Followup on this riveting story that I has has me on the edge of my seat waiting for the final end of it all.
Wow, just so glad that the Admins gave you the green on this.
It really shows that the 5%'s out there, trying to make a difference, are putting their efforts towards a worthy cause.
Good Job. Buy youself a beer on me tonight.
 
2013-08-24 12:21:09 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Hoopy Frood: It wasn't stolen, he bought it from her uncle and registered it in her name without her knowledge.

Doh, you are correct.

ongbok: Unless he was wearing a wig, lipstick and a dress, I still don't see how he registered it in her name without her knowing. It is much more likely that he bought a car, couldn't register it in his name because of fines or tickets so since she was his girlfriend, and she thought they would be together forever, she voluntarily went and registered it in her name so it would be legal.

Never underestimate the laziness and incompetence of some DMV workers.


Or the stupidity of people who will register a car in their name for somebody else, which is most likely what happened here. fark it, it is what happened here, and her boyfriend screwed her over. This is the reason why you don't ever register a car in your name for someone else.
 
2013-08-24 12:30:21 AM  

8Fingers: Uh, geeze Subs, thanks for the Followup on this riveting story that I has has me on the edge of my seat waiting for the final end of it all.
Wow, just so glad that the Admins gave you the green on this.
It really shows that the 5%'s out there, trying to make a difference, are putting their efforts towards a worthy cause.
Good Job. Buy youself a beer on me tonight.


static.ylilauta.org
 
2013-08-24 01:20:11 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: 8Fingers: Uh, geeze Subs, thanks for the Followup on this riveting story that I has has me on the edge of my seat waiting for the final end of it all.
Wow, just so glad that the Admins gave you the green on this.
It really shows that the 5%'s out there, trying to make a difference, are putting their efforts towards a worthy cause.
Good Job. Buy youself a beer on me tonight.


Do you have perrmision to use the computer when your mommy and daddy aren't around?
 
2013-08-24 01:48:58 AM  

8Fingers: Satanic_Hamster: 8Fingers: Uh, geeze Subs, thanks for the Followup on this riveting story that I has has me on the edge of my seat waiting for the final end of it all.
Wow, just so glad that the Admins gave you the green on this.
It really shows that the 5%'s out there, trying to make a difference, are putting their efforts towards a worthy cause.
Good Job. Buy youself a beer on me tonight.

Do you have perrmision to use the computer when your mommy and daddy aren't around?


i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-08-24 06:43:09 AM  

ongbok: skinink: "Under the terms of the settlement, her ex-boyfriend Brandon Preveau will reimburse her $1,600, with Ms Fitzgerald paying the rest on a monthly plan."
So she's actually responsible for only $2,900 but that's still too much. Her ex should have to pay it all if anything.

This is why you never let anybody that isn't going to be legally held equally financially responsible for all fines and legal actions that may result from the car borrow it. If somebody isn't going be immediately held responsible or have to suffer consequences because of a fine or legal action, they won't care.


Heh, this.

The last guy that rear-ended me, turned out, he had borrowed the vehicle from a buddy.  After totaling MY car, he left the scene of the accident...but not quickly enough that I couldn't get the plate number.  Then he ditched the car at Logan airport.  Guess he REALLY had to make that flight...later, his poor buddy goes to collect the car, notices it's front end is crushed and there's a head-size shattered area in the windshield (dumbass driver hadn't been belted in), so he calls the cops, figuring his ride had been vandalized.

They tell him they've been looking for him :)

Bonus:  we're both insured by the same company.

Moral:  don't loan your car out to just anybody...there can be consequences.

Who tell him they've
 
2013-08-24 09:29:49 AM  
She still got farked over, but I am surprised the city of Chicago reduced it at all.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-08-24 10:34:06 AM  
Another boyfriend trick I've heard about is registering a car in girlfriend's name in the NYC area and not bothering with insurance because that's really expensive. Registration gets revoked, girlfriend gets hit with a day license suspension for every day the car is unregistered (whether or not it is on a public street).
 
2013-08-24 12:27:23 PM  
It's the Chicago way.
 
2013-08-24 02:54:47 PM  

Saberus Terras: Endive Wombat: clkeagle: $105,000 parking fine?

What did she do - park a main battle tank on top of a city office?

I am actually surprised that there is not some sort of law that maxes the amount of the total fine at the value of the car.

You realize that would mean hordes of vehicles would be exempt from tickets because they are in such disrepair that they are worthless except to the owner, right?


I did that--- junker that I would pay to dispose went unclaimed after a snow emergency... 20 yrs ago. Never received an auction notice.
 
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